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At 20:47 06/11/2013, parminder wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">On Thursday 07 November 2013
01:06 AM, John Curran wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""><pre>Parminder -
For my education - where is the distinction made in the Tunis
agenda?</pre><font face="Courier New, Courier"></font></blockquote><br>
John<br>
The para 69 of Tunis Agenda and I quote<br><br>
<font face="Verdana" size=2>"69. We further recognize the need for
enhanced cooperation in the future, to enable governments, on an equal
footing, to carry out their roles and responsibilities, in international
public policy issues pertaining to the Internet, but not in the
day-to-day technical and operational matters, that do not impact on
international public policy issues. </font>"<br><br>
This para explicitly excludes all elements of global Internet governance
that pertains to technical operations and do not impact international
public policy issues. Therefore RIR, IETF, ICANN and such of the I* group
remain 'safe' and excluded from enhanced cooperation discussions and any
' institutional solutions' that may emerge out of them.
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Parminder,<br><br>
now, I understand where you come from and why we will never find any
solution to anything. There still is a confusion on what "day to day
technical and operational matters" are. Dr. Lessig "code is
law" has still not been digested by most.<br><br>
Words that Tunis used are totally useless, and the text has many meanings
for many people, if all the reading stakeholders do not refer to
the same frame of reference. I only know a single frame of reference that
is common to politicians and technicians, merchants and soldiers, lawyers
and citizens: architectonics. <br><br>
This is why if the debate is not at the architectonic layer, with enough
power to impose it, the entire debate is worthless. The I* $ociety is
organizing to grab that power. Governments conduct rearguard battle that
CS only comments. <br><br>
Clear enough. Thank you.<br>
jfc<br><br>
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