<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body >I am all for the most valuable use of our time. So what would that be? Until we know who will devise the agenda or structure for the Brazil summit, I find it hard to answer my own question. So I lean towards engaging until I know it is a waste of time.<br><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Jeremy Malcolm <jeremy@ciroap.org> <br>Date: <br>To: michael gurstein <gurstein@gmail.com> <br>Cc: Carolina Rossini <carolina.rossini@gmail.com>,Joana Varon Ferraz <joana@varonferraz.com>,bestbits <bestbits@lists.bestbits.net> <br>Subject: Re: [bestbits] RE: [Follow up of the previous report] Summary I*coalition/dialogue debates <br> <br><br>On 4 Nov 2013, at 7:50 pm, michael gurstein <<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">gurstein@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Further to that I have some question whether CS should be privileging the IGF as compared to other possible mechanisms in our formulation pre-Brazil as these documents do.</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Finally, I have some question as to whether CS should be aligning itself with MS processes and MSism as the "statement" does without at least an attempt to more fully define what in fact MS/MSism is meant to mean in the context of this document</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Briefly, I share both of these concerns. There is nothing here so far to suggest that the references to the IGF, multi-stakeholder processes and even enhanced cooperation are not just the innocuous versions of those loose concepts, that pose no threat to those with vested interests in the status quo. The exclusion of governments from the dialogue also confirms that the dialogue is likely to be an echo chamber in which those who already have particular views about governments and Internet governance, reinforce those views. In that light is participation in the dialogue a wise investment of our time, which is already so very stretched?</div></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true">
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