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    PS<br>
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    Correction: I am NOT claiming to be speaking for others!<br>
    <br>
    (this omission was not a Freudian slip...!)<br>
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    best<br>
    MF<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/11/2013 12:47, Marianne Franklin
      wrote:<br>
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      Dear all<br>
      <br>
      I have taken the liberty of revising the original thread title to
      address Parminder's request for more clarity about the BB steering
      group, at least from my perspective. <br>
      <br>
      It is an interim steering group in that a number of us
      (self)nominated or were nominated to join. I have been on there in
      an individual capacity but also on behalf of the IRP Coalition,
      both capacities still on an interim basis as setting up Best Bits
      was done quite quickly and to date indeed many decisions and
      actions have taken place at a fast tempo. <br>
      <br>
      So, as is the case with all the various networks we are all
      participating in I look forward to this interim group becoming an
      endorsed or elected one for all the reasons that Parminder and
      others have noted. <br>
      <br>
      To the Statement that Best Bets has authored; this statement,
      drafted at the Best Bits pre-IGF meeting in Bali, was indeed
      released without all of the Steering Group being present. As it is
      now a baseline document for ongoing discussions it now being
      public can hopefully focus those discussions as the ICANN-Brazil
      Summit meeting remains as yet unclear in terms of participation
      and intent. To this end, the report that Joana Varon and others
      compiled of the Bali meetings is very helpful for us all to
      consider. <br>
      <br>
      To me, thinking back over several months of intense email traffic
      and output emerging from the Best Bits initiative, perhaps the
      adage "more haste, less speed" might be one we could apply within
      the interim steering group and as a wider network that dovetails
      with many others. Ignoring or overlooking these many others is not
      the best way forward in the long run, and it is the long run that
      matters I think even if things appear to be happening at breakneck
      speed. Appearances can be deceiving! <br>
      <br>
      Hope this clarifies things from one Best Bits Steering group
      member perspective; I am claiming here to speak for all others. In
      terms of my current responsibility towards informing the IRP
      Coalition of key Best Bits outputs, the current steering group is
      working on these procedures as indeed we must. <br>
      <br>
      best<br>
      MF<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/11/2013 06:36, parminder wrote:<br>
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        type="cite"> <br>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Saturday 26 October 2013 05:23
          PM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:<br>
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          cite="mid:9E000712-0B79-408E-8E01-B1ACB1BE89F4@ciroap.org"
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          <div>On 26 Oct 2013, at 11:53 am, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">parminder@itforchange.net</a>
            wrote:</div>
          <div><br>
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            <blockquote type="cite">Yes it is the same, with those
              suggestions incorporated, and reviewed.</blockquote>
            <span></span><br>
            <span>Thanks for the information, Jeremy...</span><br>
            <span></span><br>
            <span>Who reviewed and incorporated the suggestions, and
              'finalised' the statement.</span><br>
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          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>The steering committee (except Marianne who presented
            apologies) at a meeting the previous night.</div>
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        <br>
        In fact, the lack of clarity of the process is so high that I no
        longer know who are members of steering committee... Dont  those
        who consider themselves members of the BB group kind of need to
        know such basic stuff...<br>
        <br>
        One process issue that was raised repeatedly at the BB f2f
        meeting was about clarity about steering committee members and
        where they 'came from'..... there was a demand that their
        association with groups/ organisation etc be very clear, along
        with nature of funding support etc, and I would add - if not
        explicit on the respective websites - a basic statement of
        organisational objectives, vision/ mission etc, and list of
        activities and the such...<br>
        <br>
        parminder <br>
        <br>
        <br>
        <blockquote
          cite="mid:9E000712-0B79-408E-8E01-B1ACB1BE89F4@ciroap.org"
          type="cite"><br>
          <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><span>My only suggestion
              was not incorporated - neither responded to... </span></blockquote>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>That, though, was just an oversight - I really apologise
            for that. I actually thought that we had incorporated the
            only two outstanding points and evidently overlooked this
            one, or thought it had already been incorporated.  </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Somewhat explaining this lapse, we were very pressed for
            time as we wanted it to go public on the last day of the
            IGF, and by that time the BB server was already down, though
            I didn't yet realise how badly. I spent a few hours that
            night trying to bring it back up. </div>
          <br>
          <blockquote type="cite"><span>It was</span><br>
            <span>regarding the main operative part of the sentence -
              the second sentence -</span><br>
            <span>which seek multistakeholder model of holding the
              conference. I had</span><br>
            <span>proposed that we instead ask specifically for civil
              society to be an equal</span><br>
            <span>partner in all processes of holding the
              conference..... </span></blockquote>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>However I do think this is covered pretty well anyway, if
            you take the statement as a whole. </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>-- </div>
          <div>
            <div>
              <div>Jeremy Malcolm PhD LLB (Hons) B Com</div>
              <div>Internet and Open Source lawyer, consumer advocate,
                geek </div>
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                                                  are strongly
                                                  recommended to enable
                                                  PGP or S/MIME
                                                  encryption at your
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title="https://luxsci.com/blog/installing-smime-and-pgp-encryption-certificates-into-major-email-clients.html"
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      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Dr Marianne Franklin
Reader 
Convener: Global Media & Transnational Communications Program
Co-Chair Internet Rights & Principles Coalition (UN IGF)
Goldsmiths, University of London
Dept. of Media & Communications
New Cross, London SE14 6NW
Tel: +44 20 7919 7072
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:m.i.franklin@gold.ac.uk"><m.i.franklin@gold.ac.uk></a>
@GloComm
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://twitter.com/GloComm">https://twitter.com/GloComm</a>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Dr Marianne Franklin
Reader 
Convener: Global Media & Transnational Communications Program
Co-Chair Internet Rights & Principles Coalition (UN IGF)
Goldsmiths, University of London
Dept. of Media & Communications
New Cross, London SE14 6NW
Tel: +44 20 7919 7072
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:m.i.franklin@gold.ac.uk"><m.i.franklin@gold.ac.uk></a>
@GloComm
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://twitter.com/GloComm">https://twitter.com/GloComm</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.gold.ac.uk/media-communications/staff/franklin/">http://www.gold.ac.uk/media-communications/staff/franklin/</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.gold.ac.uk/pg/ma-global-media-transnational-communications/">https://www.gold.ac.uk/pg/ma-global-media-transnational-communications/</a>
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