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<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=Windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; ">I sat in the same meeting in Delhi and here's my additional comments </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; "><br></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; ">Fadi said:</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; ">Trust in the internet has been "punctured" by recent events</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; ">To rebuild a safe and secure internet would require a new form of multi stakeholder governance</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; ">No one country should have disproportionate power and the internet no longer belongs to the US/the West</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; ">The internet needs co-operation more than governance</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; ">For the internet to work all parties need to work together on an equal footing – governments, business, CS and scientists</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; ">He spoke about needing to find a place to discuss "orphan" issues and that decision making could be multi-stakeholder if new methods of working were used. (By orphan issues he seemed to mean net neutrality, IP liability etc but this was not clear)</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; "><br></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; ">The Indian Communications Minister Sibal then said inter-governmentalism would not work (quoting climate change negotiations) and that</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; ">Cyberspace requires a new form of administration in which not just governments were stakeholders</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; ">And that there was a need to find a way of establishing consensus based multi-stakeholderism and a reformed ICANN central to that.</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; "><br></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; ">However Indian officials who spoke later ,including Deputy National Security Advisor Sandhu, talked about a multi-lateral, transparent and democratic form of governance, or balancing multi stakeholderism with multi lateralism</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; "><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; ">So some confusion there. </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; "><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; ">I did not have a sense, born out in the subsequent Q&A that Fadi has any idea what the new legal basis for ICANN might be (a Swiss NGO?) or that he has any concrete ideas for a new structure of governance. I'd say he has lit the blue touch paper and is waiting to see what blows up. But he emphasised, after questions, that President Rouseff is also looking for a multi-stakeholder solution and not an inter governmental, UN route to solve the problem. This was repeated throughout the day.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; "><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; ">So the way is open for new ideas to put on the table. I asked him if a strengthened IGF could be part of the overall reform of the environment and he agreed though did not elaborate except to say that he did not envisage creating new institutions. Some people speculated that he saw ICANN as having a role in taking on the "orphan" issues.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium; "><b><span style="color: rgb(72, 72, 72); "><br></span></b></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium; "><b><span style="color: rgb(72, 72, 72); "><br></span></b></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium; "><b><span style="color: rgb(72, 72, 72); ">Andrew Puddephatt, Director</span></b></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium; "><b><span style="color: rgb(49, 24, 72); ">
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Much more than what many of the civil society are ready to say or commit to.<br><br>
However, it is easier to talk about a contract between ICANN and people than to come up with the actual means and processes of such a (social) contract. But good to state the principles that then opens up thinking and possible concrete proposals.
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parminder <br><br>
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<table class="moz-email-headers-table" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">Subject: </th><td>[Internet Policy] Fadi Chehadé: Affirmation of Commitments needs to become contract between 'ICANN and you'</td></tr><tr><th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">Date: </th><td>Thu, 17 Oct 2013 20:16:00 +0530</td></tr><tr><th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">From: </th><td>Vinay Kesari <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vinay.kesari@gmail.com">
<vinay.kesari@gmail.com></a></td></tr><tr><th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">To: </th><td><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:internetpolicy@elists.isoc.org">internetpolicy@elists.isoc.org</a></td></tr></tbody></table><br><br><div dir="ltr">Dear all,
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Fadi Chehadé, the CEO of ICANN, spoke this evening at the <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.ficci.com/events-page.asp?evid=21654" target="_blank">
Internet, Mobile & Digital Economy Conference (IMDEC) 2013</a> in New Delhi, and made some very interesting statements, including the following (which I paraphrase):
<div><ul><li>The Affirmation of Commitments needs to change from being a contract between ICANN and the US Government, to a contract between 'ICANN and you'.
</li><li>The handling of the IANA function needs to be structured in keeping with the idea that it is the 'root of the world' rather than of any one country.
</li><li>ICANN headquarters would be split between Los Angeles, Istanbul and Singapore, and hiring in Los Angeles is to be frozen.
</li></ul><div>I will post links to the video from the event as soon as it is up, as well as a more detailed report on his other remarks, including on Brazil, the role of industry, and multilateralism.</div></div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Vinay Kesari</div><div><br></div><div><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://twitter.com/vinaykesari" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/vinaykesari</a><br></div></div><br></div><br></div></div></span></body></html>