<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>+ 1</div><div><br></div><div>Valeria </div><br><div><div>On 10/10/2013, at 23:12, Anja Kovacs wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><p>Having had a look at the draft letter after a good night's sleep, I agree with Deborah and others, and will stick to my initial position that we should take some time to develop our own agenda before dashing this off. As someone else noted in this very long thread, doing so can also be of value not only for this event but in a more general sense. We needn't necessarily agree on answers, but it could be powerful if we could at least collectively put forward (some of) the questions to be asked - about CS involvement as much as about the role of governments. Could this, for example, be an appropriate place to start pushing a debate on the need to update the "respective roles and responsibilities" clause in the Tunis Agenda, or at least the way we read it? Even if we decide not to ask for it here, that is one item that could be added to a CS agenda for the reform of Internet governance.</p><p>Sending letters that are too generic might also lead to them getting ignored, which is obviously something we want to avoid. Ideally, the news that a CS letter is on the way should fill the recipient with a pleasant mix of excitement and apprehension ;)</p><p>My two paise,<br> Anja</p> <div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 11, 2013 8:45 AM, "Jeremy Malcolm" <<a href="mailto:jeremy@ciroap.org">jeremy@ciroap.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <div>On 11/10/13 00:00, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote type="cite"> I cannot agree more.<br> <br> Not only do I share Rafik's skepticism, I also think we should not fall into the trap of thinking of ICANN (and the ICANN DNS gold rush) as being at the core of the policy-making processes that matter to how people access, use, and develop the internet. <br> <br> That ICANN is now setting broader agendas, along with governments, reflects entirely what is problematic with how power and influence plays out in IG and I find it alarming.<br> <br> Definitely agree with Anja and others who say that CS should get involved in this debate. A critical perspective is needed now more than ever. <br> </blockquote> <br> My first thought too was that this was opportunism on ICANN's part (and, heck, probably on Dilma's too), but so what? When two top leaders have done more in one day to open the doors to Internet governance reform than the IGF MAG has done in eight years, hurrah for opportunism - let's make the most of it.<br> <br> But I also agree that the proposed letter is a bit light on, and that we should develop more of an agenda for the event before sending such a letter. 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