<div dir="ltr">I agree</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:32 AM, avri <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>I think this is a good approach. And I agree that expressing appreciation of the direction they seem to be leading towards, combined with a CS proposal would be a good outcome of the BestBits meeting.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:75%">avri</div><div style="font-size:75%"><br></div><div style="font-size:75%">Sent from a T-Mobile 4G LTE Device</div><div class="im"><br><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>
From: Valeria Betancourt <<a href="mailto:valeriab@apc.org" target="_blank">valeriab@apc.org</a>> <br>Date: 10/10/2013 09:11 (GMT-05:00) <br>To: Anja Kovacs <<a href="mailto:anja@internetdemocracy.in" target="_blank">anja@internetdemocracy.in</a>> <br>
Cc: Jeremy Malcolm <<a href="mailto:jeremy@ciroap.org" target="_blank">jeremy@ciroap.org</a>>,"<a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>> <" <<a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>> <br>
Subject: Re: [bestbits] Re: [governance] Rousseff & Chehade: Brazil will host world event on Internet governance in 2014 <br> <br><br><div>I agree with Anja on her proposal. Taking the opportunity not only for expressing our support but for outlining a civil society agenda for the summit would be an strategic move. + 1 as well on proposal re Chehade. Do you think it would be one of the outcomes of our meeting in Bali? </div>
<div><br></div></div><div>Valeria </div><div><br></div><div><div class="im"><div>On 10/10/2013, at 0:47, Anja Kovacs wrote:</div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="im"><p>I share Rafik's caution to some extent, but it is difficult not to be enthused by this proposal. As Mike points out, it is a tremendous opportunity for all of us to engage in this debate. Why don't we start working on another letter to Rousseff, in which we support the idea but also start outlining a CS agenda for the summit? What would we like to see such a summit achieving? Maybe we can use our discussions in Bali as a basis from which to start drafting such an agenda.</p>
<p>And maybe time for a word of appreciation to Chehade as well, at least from those of us who believe that the internationalisation of ICANN would be a good thing :)</p><p>What do others think?</p><p>Best,<br> Anja</p> </div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Oct 10, 2013 7:57 AM, "Jeremy Malcolm" <<a href="mailto:jeremy@ciroap.org" target="_blank">jeremy@ciroap.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><div class="im"> <div>On 10/10/13 06:33, John Curran wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre>On Oct 9, 2013, at 3:02 PM, Avri Doria <a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank"><avri@acm.org></a> wrote:
</pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre>Do I understand correctly: according to this the President of ICANN has just agreed with the need for external oversight of ICANN, and unnamed other organizations, involved in governance/management of the Internet, just as long as it is multistakeholder?
</pre> </blockquote> <pre>It appears to be a significant effort to address Internet Governance
challenges, including acceleration of the globalization of ICANN towards
an environment in which all stakeholders (including all governments) can
participate on an equal footing...
</pre> </blockquote> <br> It puts civil society to shame in how timid we, at large, have been in proposing similar advances on the status quo. (I have not made much of a secret of the fact that I was disappointed in the number of endorsements that the Best Bits statement on enhanced cooperation (<a href="http://bestbits.net/ec" target="_blank">http://bestbits.net/ec</a>) received, though in part I accept that this was because the statement was simply too long.)<br>
<br> This has also, in one stroke, determined the IGF's future. Of course the writing has been on the wall for the IGF for a while now, but it has now officially become irrelevant in terms of its larger role in multi-stakeholder Internet governance as originally anticipated in the Tunis Agenda. Of course it will continue to have a role as a discussion forum, but the momentum for it to fulfil a larger role has moved elsewhere.<br>
<br> It also neutralises the effect of the old guard of the technical community (ISOC mainly) at the Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation. Whilst they can still oppose meaningful implementation of enhanced cooperation reforms, this opposition is now utterly token and ineffectual. With Brazil (and ICANN!) having lost patience and forging ahead regardless, this leaves anyone arguing against reforms at the WGEC looking silly and irrelevant. <br>
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