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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>+1 great conversation to have!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:7.0pt;line-height:115%;text-autospace:none'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#253741;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Andrew Puddephatt</span></b><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>| </span><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#253741;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>GLOBAL PARTNERS</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#253741;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> DIGITAL<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:115%;text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#253741;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Executive Director</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#FF2126;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:115%;text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Development House, 56–64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>T: +44 (0)20 7549 0336 | M: +44 (0)771 339 9597 | Skype: andrewpuddephatt</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'><br><b>gp-digital.org</b><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net [mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Anja Kovacs<br><b>Sent:</b> 10 October 2013 15:45<br><b>To:</b> Carlos A. Afonso<br><b>Cc:</b> McTim; governance@lists.igcaucus.org; michael gurstein; Lee W McKnight; Rafik Dammak; Joana Varon; <,bestbits@lists.bestbits.net>,<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [governance] RE: [bestbits] Rousseff & Chehade: Brazil will host world event on Internet governance in 2014<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Point taken, Mawaki. We can very well already start sharing ideas online. One of the reasons why I proposed we use the conversations in Bali as a starting point is because I had some quite specific possible agenda items in mind myself. Why not use this opportunity to also start thinking/advocating in a more concerted fashion about the role of civil society in multistakeholder Internet governance and what is required for it to fulfil that role? I find it fascinating how much time we spend on discussing the role of governments, but how little conversation we have about our own role. If this conference is going to be about a more democratic multistakeholder system for Internet governance, I think it is quite important that we also put on the table proposals regarding more formal and systematic involvement of civil society in Internet governance across the board, and the rather thorny issue of how that is going to be made possible in practice (including where the funding is going to come from). <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Some of these issues will be implicit in our conversations in Bali, and hence I thought those might be an easy starting point for this part of the debate, but there is of course no reason why we shouldn't start doing so already online.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Some of my own thoughts on the difficult position civil society finds itself in at the moment can be found here: <a href="http://internetdemocracy.in/2013/07/pawns-in-a-governments-game/">http://internetdemocracy.in/2013/07/pawns-in-a-governments-game/</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Best regards,<br>Anja<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 10 October 2013 18:40, Carlos A. Afonso <<a href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca" target="_blank">ca@cafonso.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>McT, maybe you should watch the video a few times more... :)<br><span style='color:#888888'><br><span class=hoenzb>--c.a.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>On 10/10/2013 09:57 AM, McTim wrote:<br>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:50 PM, michael gurstein <<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">gurstein@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>> Why so pessimistic and cynical everyone.. I may be wrong but this isn't just<br>>> about ICANN, although hats off to Fadi for getting this going and putting<br>>> that into play…<br>><br>><br>> I'm not pessimistic or cynical.<br>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> But I would be extremely surprised if the Pres. of Brazil is going to invite<br>>> the world to Rio in April next year to discuss names and numbers. Rather my<br>>> reading is that she is by-passing the quite evident log-jam at the ITU, the<br>>> frivolities of the IGF, the now discredited "Internet Freedom" crusade and<br>>> the status quo which it was intended to cast into concrete errr… (non) rules<br>>> and regs.<br>><br>><br>><br>> It appears to me, after watching the video again several times that it<br>> is ICANN (and I assume the rest of the Montevideoans) that are<br>> spearheading this. In other words the idea of the Summit comes from<br>> the T&A folks, not Brasilia.<br>><br>><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><br>-- <br>Dr. Anja Kovacs<br>The Internet Democracy Project<br><br>+91 9899028053 | @anjakovacs<br><a href="http://www.internetdemocracy.in/" target="_blank">www.internetdemocracy.in</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>