<div dir="ltr">Hi Carlos,<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I understand your excitement and pride as Brazilian but as Tunisian I am more cautious with what my gov can claim :) (I would instead wait till marco civil to be voted to celebrate for example but yes I am not familiar with Brazilian internal politics) </div>
<div class="gmail_extra">not sure what is your take regarding IGF, ywa you are talking about interesting process , but we dont have such process now and it looks more as an interpretation and wish than something concrete. are you looking to replace IGF by a summit yet to be defined?<br clear="all">
<div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Rafik </div></div></div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/10/10 Carlos A. Afonso <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca" target="_blank">ca@cafonso.ca</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I personally do hope it will *not* look like *nor* do like the IGF. We<br>
need a pluriparticipative decision-making process on international IG,<br>
and maybe this is the way to start it. Instead of just becoming<br>
suspicious, let us work proactively together to make sure we have strong<br>
representation in this process.<br>
<br>
fraternal regards<br>
<br>
--c.a.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
On 10/09/2013 10:33 PM, Rafik Dammak wrote:<br>
> Hello,<br>
><br>
> maybe I will looks quite cautious against the enthusiasm and excitement<br>
> emerging here, but listening to Fadi short message, I am wondering about<br>
> the meaning of openness since he is talking about "leaders" of<br>
> governments, civil society etc (I think that is alarm bell for those<br>
> familiar to his speeches). it may look like the WEF of IG more than IGF<br>
> alike.<br>
> while we are still having heated discussion about the "inflation" of<br>
> conference and venues like Cyber Conf in seoul , how can we welcome such<br>
> summit?<br>
><br>
> Best,<br>
><br>
> Rafik<br>
><br>
><br>
> 2013/10/10 Joana Varon <<a href="mailto:joana@varonferraz.com">joana@varonferraz.com</a><br>
</div>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:joana@varonferraz.com">joana@varonferraz.com</a>>><br>
<div class="im">><br>
> Very interesting and very crazy (in a good way, I guess).<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Lee W McKnight <<a href="mailto:lmcknigh@syr.edu">lmcknigh@syr.edu</a><br>
</div><div class="im">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lmcknigh@syr.edu">lmcknigh@syr.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Waiting for any UN process is not the way things like this happen.<br>
><br>
> Brazil + ICANN = critical mass for a next phase process.<br>
> Agenda-setting moment was President Rousseff at UNGA, for a new<br>
> game which will reference those already played but need not be<br>
> limited to process, schedule, or terms of prior phases.<br>
><br>
> UN orgs will of course be invited and can participate, and the<br>
> President will work around existing UN schedules to extent<br>
> feasible, but boxing the new thing into the old schedule is<br>
> probably not what was just agreed.<br>
><br>
> My 2 cents of veteran but perhaps off-base global policy process<br>
> assessment.<br>
><br>
> Lee<br>
><br>
><br>
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> *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] Rousseff & Chehade: Brazil will host<br>
<div class="im HOEnZb">> world event on Internet governance in 2014<br>
><br>
> I was a bit puzzled in terms of UN processes. Could it be the<br>
> red interrogation mark on our visualization map?<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://bestbits.net/wp-uploads/diagram.html" target="_blank">http://bestbits.net/wp-uploads/diagram.html</a><br>
><br>
> I mean, does she has to wait for Sharm el Sheik meeting on the<br>
> WSIS+10 process? Or we can have a summit completely independent?<br>
> During MPP phase 2 meeting this week it was evident that Brazil<br>
> wanted a high level event after sharm el sheik, but I didnt<br>
> envision a Summit coming and I wonder if both processes will be<br>
> connected.<br>
><br>
> On Oct 9, 2013 6:46 PM, "Carlos A. Afonso" <<a href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca">ca@cafonso.ca</a><br>
</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca">ca@cafonso.ca</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> [sorry for possible duplicate posts]<br>
><br>
> Dear people<br>
><br>
> Here is the Google Translate English version (I did some<br>
> editing) of the<br>
> official report on the meeting between President Rousseff<br>
> and ICANN's<br>
> President and CEO Fadi Chehadé, which just happened.<br>
><br>
> The original version in Brazilian Portuguese is at the end.<br>
><br>
> fraternal regards<br>
><br>
> --c.a.<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://convergenciadigital.uol.com.br/cgi/cgilua.exe/sys/start.htm?infoid=35107&sid=4&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter#.UlXEbbOm1q8" target="_blank">http://convergenciadigital.uol.com.br/cgi/cgilua.exe/sys/start.htm?infoid=35107&sid=4&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter#.UlXEbbOm1q8</a><br>
><br>
> Brazil will host world event on Internet governance<br>
><br>
> >From the editor :: Convergência Digital :: 09/10/2013<br>
><br>
> Brazil will host the meeting in 2014 to discuss the<br>
> necessary changes to<br>
> Internet governance. After meeting with the president of the<br>
> Internet<br>
> Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (Icann, its<br>
> acronym in<br>
> English), Fadi Chehadé, President Dilma Rousseff agreed to<br>
> meet global<br>
> leaders from different sectors interested in the topic.<br>
><br>
> According to Chehadé, the world counts on Brazil's<br>
> leadership on this<br>
> issue, after President Dilma Rousseff spoke at the opening<br>
> of the 68th<br>
> UN General Assembly, held in September in the United States.<br>
> "The world<br>
> heard the Brazilian president, who spoke with deep<br>
> conviction, with<br>
> great courage, and expressed the frustration that many<br>
> people around the<br>
> world feel about the fact that the trust relationship we<br>
> have with the<br>
> Internet had been broken,"said, revealing that the speech by<br>
> Dilma was<br>
> the motivation of his proposal for their meeting.<br>
><br>
> Chehadé cited allegations of espionage involving the<br>
> communication of<br>
> Brazilian authorities and citizens, among them the very<br>
> president,<br>
> Petrobras and the Ministry of Mines and Energy. "I came to<br>
> ask the<br>
> president to elevate her leadership to a new level, to<br>
> ensure that we<br>
> can all get together around a new model of governance in<br>
> which all are<br>
> equal," he said. The president of Icann said that future<br>
> decisions on<br>
> how leaders can manage the internet should be based on the<br>
> principles of<br>
> the Civil Rights Framework for the Internet in Brazil which<br>
> is going<br>
> through the National Congress.<br>
><br>
> Fadi Chehadé was yesterday (Oct.7th) with Communications<br>
> Minister Paulo<br>
> Bernardo, to ask for help from Brazil to start discussions<br>
> about changes<br>
> in the governance of the Internet, and said that the<br>
> arrangements should<br>
> begin this year. According to him, the need for a new<br>
> governing body of<br>
> the Internet requires the involvement of multiple actors,<br>
> not just the<br>
> government.<br>
><br>
> "I understand that the internet has a new feature that<br>
> requires active<br>
> participation by governments, their respective agencies<br>
> within the<br>
> United Nations, but also in the context of users, civil<br>
> society, the<br>
> technicians, who after all make the Internet work," Chehadé<br>
> defended.<br>
> For the president of the corporation, academics and<br>
> industrialists need<br>
> to participate in the debate, as they reflect on rights and<br>
> carry out<br>
> the management of the Internet infrastructure.<br>
><br>
> The president of Icann said telecommunications companies<br>
> must also<br>
> attend the conference."They are integral part of the family<br>
> with which<br>
> we must work," he said. According to Paulo Bernardo,<br>
> President Dilma<br>
> agreed that changes in network governance must occur<br>
> multilaterally and<br>
> with the participation of all actors who engage the<br>
> internet, and said<br>
> that "we must not allow economic, political and religious<br>
> interests to<br>
> interfere in the free circulation of ideas." The minister<br>
> said that the<br>
> suggestion of the president is that the event be held in<br>
> April 2014 in<br>
> Rio de Janeiro.<br>
><br>
> Source : Agência Brazil<br>
><br>
> -------- original in pt-br -------------<br>
><br>
> O Brasil vai sediar em 2014 o encontro para discutir as mudanças<br>
> necessárias para a governança da internet. Após se encontrar<br>
> com o<br>
> presidente da Corporação da Internet para Atribuição de<br>
> Nomes e Números<br>
> (Icann, na sigla em inglês), Fadi Chehadé, a presidenta<br>
> Dilma Rousseff<br>
> concordou em reunir líderes globais de diferentes setores<br>
> interessados<br>
> no tema.<br>
><br>
> De acordo com Chehadé, o mundo conta com a liderança<br>
> brasileira nesta<br>
> questão, depois que a Presidenta Dilma Rousseff discursou na<br>
> abertura da<br>
> 68ª Assembleia Geral da ONU, ocorrida em setembro nos<br>
> Estados Unidos. “O<br>
> mundo ouviu a Presidenta brasileira, que falou com profunda<br>
> convicção,<br>
> com muita coragem, e externou a frustração que muitas<br>
> pessoas, em todo<br>
> mundo, sentiam com o fato de que a confiança havia sido<br>
> quebrada que<br>
> temos com relação à internet”, disse, revelando que o<br>
> discurso de Dilma<br>
> foi a motivação da sua proposta para o encontro.<br>
><br>
> Chehadé citou as denúncias de espionagem envolvendo a<br>
> comunicação de<br>
> autoridades e cidadãos brasileiros, dentre eles a própria<br>
> presidenta, a<br>
> Petrobras e o Ministério de Minas e Energia. “Vim solicitar<br>
> à presidenta<br>
> que elevasse sua liderança a um novo nível, de modo a<br>
> assegurar que<br>
> todos possamos nos reunir em torno de um novo modelo de<br>
> governança, em<br>
> que todos sejamos iguais”, afirmou. O presidente da Icann<br>
> disse que as<br>
> futuras decisões sobre como os líderes poderão gerir a<br>
> internet devem<br>
> ter como base os princípios do marco civil brasileiro, que<br>
> tramita no<br>
> Congresso Nacional.<br>
><br>
> Fadi Chehadé esteve anteontem (7) com o ministro das<br>
> Comunicações, Paulo<br>
> Bernardo, a fim de pedir ajuda do Brasil para iniciar os<br>
> debates sobre<br>
> mudanças na governança da internet, e disse que as<br>
> articulações devem<br>
> começar este ano. Segundo ele, a necessidade de um novo<br>
> órgão gestor da<br>
> internet passa pela participação de múltiplos atores, não só<br>
> do governo.<br>
><br>
> “Entendo que a internet tem um novo recurso, que exige<br>
> participação<br>
> ativa por parte dos governos, dos seus respectivos órgãos no<br>
> âmbito das<br>
> Nações Unidas, mas também no âmbito dos usuários, da<br>
> sociedade civil,<br>
> dos técnicos, que afinal de contas fazem a internet<br>
> funcionar”, defendeu<br>
> Chehadé. Para o presidente da corporação, os acadêmicos e<br>
> industriais<br>
> precisam participar do debate, pois refletem sobre o direito<br>
> e fazem a<br>
> gestão da infraestrutura da internet.<br>
><br>
> O presidente da Icann disse que as empresas de<br>
> telecomunicações devem<br>
> também participar da conferência. “Elas são parte integrante<br>
> da família<br>
> com a qual precisamos trabalhar”, afirmou. Segundo Paulo<br>
> Bernardo, a<br>
> presidenta Dilma concordou que as mudanças na governança da<br>
> rede devem<br>
> ocorrer de forma multilateral e com a participação de todos<br>
> os atores<br>
> que se envolvem a internet, e disse que não se pode<br>
> “permitir que<br>
> interesses econômicos, políticos e religiosos interfiram na<br>
> livre<br>
> circulação das ideias”. O ministro informou que a sugestão<br>
> da presidenta<br>
> é que o evento ocorra em abril de 2014 no Rio de Janeiro.<br>
><br>
> fonte: Agência Brasil<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> --<br>
><br>
> Joana Varon Ferraz<br>
> @joana_varon<br>
> PGP 0x016B8E73<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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