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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Why so pessimistic and cynical everyone.. I may be wrong but this isn't just about ICANN, although hats off to Fadi for getting this going and putting that into play… <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>But I would be extremely surprised if the Pres. of Brazil is going to invite the world to Rio in April next year to discuss names and numbers. Rather my reading is that she is by-passing the quite evident log-jam at the ITU, the frivolities of the IGF, the now discredited "Internet Freedom" crusade and the status quo which it was intended to cast into concrete errr… (non) rules and regs. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In fact, I think she is inviting all of us to figure out how to participate effectively (and that is among the most interesting elements of the message) to make some serious decisions about what our collective future might look like AND in doing this she has completely up set the status quoist, corporatist, hemegon's applecarts about using the Internet (and its NSA/GCHQ/CSEC enforcers) to give us the future that they want.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So bravo Dilma (and Fadi) and even if it is only for a short while (before we all get overcome again by the Walking Dead) let's do some collective dreaming about how to manage the Internet to build the world that we want not the one that they wanted us to have (in their interests…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>M <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net [mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lee W McKnight<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 09, 2013 7:31 PM<br><b>To:</b> Rafik Dammak; Joana Varon<br><b>Cc:</b> Carlos A. Afonso; bestbits@lists.bestbits.net> < governance@lists.igcaucus.org; NCSG List<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [bestbits] Rousseff & Chehade: Brazil will host world event on Internet governance in 2014<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>2 more cents re how high the summit: <br><br>Given the call for tech community/cs leaders to engage with heads of state; while everyone maintains a claim to multi-stakeholder (and/or multilateral) democratic/participatory legitimacy, even as mega-telco CEOS jet in from around the world...this should all be more than interesting.<br><br>If the meeting involves President Rousseff and other heads of state, by definition this is not a run of the mill thing. <br><br>Or IG forum.<br><br>But rather than WEF, what it might most closely resemble....is an ICANN meeting, where lots of groups come together, lots of things are happening, but when one door closes only GAC members are in the room. <br><br>In this case, the photo-ops of heads of state + ICANN, ARIN, LACNIC, etc + telco CEOs will send its own message of love peace and harmony among nation-states, global Internet, and industry. What's not to like? : )<br><br>If enough heads of state want in on the photo ops and policy discussions, then think G20 or even G30; with the accompanying cs + industry sideshows typical of G7/G8 events.<br><br>While other portions of event likely will be pretty wide open and bottom-up participatory, a la ICANN biz as usual. <br><br>And yes for Brazilian domestic actors, this is also a great chance to cement gains and lock the President and Congress into cs-progressive positions, since she wouldn't wish for anything like the civil society protests happening during this event, which from FIFA and President Rousseff's perspective distracted from the football last summer. <br><br>Bottom line: Congrats, breakthrough has already happened, the whole event will not very likely do much more than bless the ball already rolling. <br><br>Lee<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div id=divRpF265822><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> Rafik Dammak [rafik.dammak@gmail.com]<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 09, 2013 9:33 PM<br><b>To:</b> Joana Varon<br><b>Cc:</b> Lee W McKnight; Carlos A. Afonso; <a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net>">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net></a> < <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>; NCSG List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [bestbits] Rousseff & Chehade: Brazil will host world event on Internet governance in 2014</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Hello, <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>maybe I will looks quite cautious against the enthusiasm and excitement emerging here, but listening to Fadi short message, I am wondering about the meaning of openness since he is talking about "leaders" of governments, civil society etc (I think that is alarm bell for those familiar to his speeches). it may look like the WEF of IG more than IGF alike.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>while we are still having heated discussion about the "inflation" of conference and venues like Cyber Conf in seoul , how can we welcome such summit?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Rafik <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>2013/10/10 Joana Varon <<a href="mailto:joana@varonferraz.com" target="_blank">joana@varonferraz.com</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Very interesting and very crazy (in a good way, I guess). <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Lee W McKnight <<a href="mailto:lmcknigh@syr.edu" target="_blank">lmcknigh@syr.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Waiting for any UN process is not the way things like this happen.<br><br>Brazil + ICANN = critical mass for a next phase process. Agenda-setting moment was President Rousseff at UNGA, for a new game which will reference those already played but need not be limited to process, schedule, or terms of prior phases.<br><br>UN orgs will of course be invited and can participate, and the President will work around existing UN schedules to extent feasible, but boxing the new thing into the old schedule is probably not what was just agreed.<br><br>My 2 cents of veteran but perhaps off-base global policy process assessment. <br><br>Lee<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net</a> [<a href="mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net</a>] on behalf of Joana Varon [<a href="mailto:joana@varonferraz.com" target="_blank">joana@varonferraz.com</a>]<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 09, 2013 5:59 PM<br><b>To:</b> Carlos A. Afonso<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>> < <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>; NCSG List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [bestbits] Rousseff & Chehade: Brazil will host world event on Internet governance in 2014</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p><span style='color:black'>I was a bit puzzled in terms of UN processes. Could it be the red interrogation mark on our visualization map?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='color:black'><a href="http://bestbits.net/wp-uploads/diagram.html" target="_blank">http://bestbits.net/wp-uploads/diagram.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='color:black'>I mean, does she has to wait for Sharm el Sheik meeting on the WSIS+10 process? Or we can have a summit completely independent? During MPP phase 2 meeting this week it was evident that Brazil wanted a high level event after sharm el sheik, but I didnt envision a Summit coming and I wonder if both processes will be connected.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>On Oct 9, 2013 6:46 PM, "Carlos A. Afonso" <<a href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca" target="_blank">ca@cafonso.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>[sorry for possible duplicate posts]<br><br>Dear people<br><br>Here is the Google Translate English version (I did some editing) of the<br>official report on the meeting between President Rousseff and ICANN's<br>President and CEO Fadi Chehadé, which just happened.<br><br>The original version in Brazilian Portuguese is at the end.<br><br>fraternal regards<br><br>--c.a.<br><br><a href="http://convergenciadigital.uol.com.br/cgi/cgilua.exe/sys/start.htm?infoid=35107&sid=4&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter#.UlXEbbOm1q8" target="_blank">http://convergenciadigital.uol.com.br/cgi/cgilua.exe/sys/start.htm?infoid=35107&sid=4&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter#.UlXEbbOm1q8</a><br><br>Brazil will host world event on Internet governance<br><br>From the editor :: Convergência Digital :: 09/10/2013<br><br>Brazil will host the meeting in 2014 to discuss the necessary changes to<br>Internet governance. After meeting with the president of the Internet<br>Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (Icann, its acronym in<br>English), Fadi Chehadé, President Dilma Rousseff agreed to meet global<br>leaders from different sectors interested in the topic.<br><br>According to Chehadé, the world counts on Brazil's leadership on this<br>issue, after President Dilma Rousseff spoke at the opening of the 68th<br>UN General Assembly, held in September in the United States. "The world<br>heard the Brazilian president, who spoke with deep conviction, with<br>great courage, and expressed the frustration that many people around the<br>world feel about the fact that the trust relationship we have with the<br>Internet had been broken,"said, revealing that the speech by Dilma was<br>the motivation of his proposal for their meeting.<br><br>Chehadé cited allegations of espionage involving the communication of<br>Brazilian authorities and citizens, among them the very president,<br>Petrobras and the Ministry of Mines and Energy. "I came to ask the<br>president to elevate her leadership to a new level, to ensure that we<br>can all get together around a new model of governance in which all are<br>equal," he said. The president of Icann said that future decisions on<br>how leaders can manage the internet should be based on the principles of<br>the Civil Rights Framework for the Internet in Brazil which is going<br>through the National Congress.<br><br>Fadi Chehadé was yesterday (Oct.7th) with Communications Minister Paulo<br>Bernardo, to ask for help from Brazil to start discussions about changes<br>in the governance of the Internet, and said that the arrangements should<br>begin this year. According to him, the need for a new governing body of<br>the Internet requires the involvement of multiple actors, not just the<br>government.<br><br>"I understand that the internet has a new feature that requires active<br>participation by governments, their respective agencies within the<br>United Nations, but also in the context of users, civil society, the<br>technicians, who after all make the Internet work," Chehadé defended.<br>For the president of the corporation, academics and industrialists need<br>to participate in the debate, as they reflect on rights and carry out<br>the management of the Internet infrastructure.<br><br>The president of Icann said telecommunications companies must also<br>attend the conference."They are integral part of the family with which<br>we must work," he said. According to Paulo Bernardo, President Dilma<br>agreed that changes in network governance must occur multilaterally and<br>with the participation of all actors who engage the internet, and said<br>that "we must not allow economic, political and religious interests to<br>interfere in the free circulation of ideas." The minister said that the<br>suggestion of the president is that the event be held in April 2014 in<br>Rio de Janeiro.<br><br>Source : Agência Brazil<br><br>-------- original in pt-br -------------<br><br>O Brasil vai sediar em 2014 o encontro para discutir as mudanças<br>necessárias para a governança da internet. Após se encontrar com o<br>presidente da Corporação da Internet para Atribuição de Nomes e Números<br>(Icann, na sigla em inglês), Fadi Chehadé, a presidenta Dilma Rousseff<br>concordou em reunir líderes globais de diferentes setores interessados<br>no tema.<br><br>De acordo com Chehadé, o mundo conta com a liderança brasileira nesta<br>questão, depois que a Presidenta Dilma Rousseff discursou na abertura da<br>68ª Assembleia Geral da ONU, ocorrida em setembro nos Estados Unidos. “O<br>mundo ouviu a Presidenta brasileira, que falou com profunda convicção,<br>com muita coragem, e externou a frustração que muitas pessoas, em todo<br>mundo, sentiam com o fato de que a confiança havia sido quebrada que<br>temos com relação à internet”, disse, revelando que o discurso de Dilma<br>foi a motivação da sua proposta para o encontro.<br><br>Chehadé citou as denúncias de espionagem envolvendo a comunicação de<br>autoridades e cidadãos brasileiros, dentre eles a própria presidenta, a<br>Petrobras e o Ministério de Minas e Energia. “Vim solicitar à presidenta<br>que elevasse sua liderança a um novo nível, de modo a assegurar que<br>todos possamos nos reunir em torno de um novo modelo de governança, em<br>que todos sejamos iguais”, afirmou. O presidente da Icann disse que as<br>futuras decisões sobre como os líderes poderão gerir a internet devem<br>ter como base os princípios do marco civil brasileiro, que tramita no<br>Congresso Nacional.<br><br>Fadi Chehadé esteve anteontem (7) com o ministro das Comunicações, Paulo<br>Bernardo, a fim de pedir ajuda do Brasil para iniciar os debates sobre<br>mudanças na governança da internet, e disse que as articulações devem<br>começar este ano. Segundo ele, a necessidade de um novo órgão gestor da<br>internet passa pela participação de múltiplos atores, não só do governo.<br><br>“Entendo que a internet tem um novo recurso, que exige participação<br>ativa por parte dos governos, dos seus respectivos órgãos no âmbito das<br>Nações Unidas, mas também no âmbito dos usuários, da sociedade civil,<br>dos técnicos, que afinal de contas fazem a internet funcionar”, defendeu<br>Chehadé. Para o presidente da corporação, os acadêmicos e industriais<br>precisam participar do debate, pois refletem sobre o direito e fazem a<br>gestão da infraestrutura da internet.<br><br>O presidente da Icann disse que as empresas de telecomunicações devem<br>também participar da conferência. “Elas são parte integrante da família<br>com a qual precisamos trabalhar”, afirmou. Segundo Paulo Bernardo, a<br>presidenta Dilma concordou que as mudanças na governança da rede devem<br>ocorrer de forma multilateral e com a participação de todos os atores<br>que se envolvem a internet, e disse que não se pode “permitir que<br>interesses econômicos, políticos e religiosos interfiram na livre<br>circulação das ideias”. O ministro informou que a sugestão da presidenta<br>é que o evento ocorra em abril de 2014 no Rio de Janeiro.<br><br>fonte: Agência Brasil<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'>-- <br>-- <br><br>Joana Varon Ferraz<br>@joana_varon<br>PGP 0x016B8E73<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>