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<td>Re: [IRPCoalition] [Call for feedback] Visual timeline
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<td>Sun, 22 Sep 2013 13:19:53 +0530</td>
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<td>parminder <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net"><parminder@itforchange.net></a></td>
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<font face="Verdana">Thanks Deborah and Joana for this effort. My
few comments which connect to the mandate of the BB and other
global IG groups....<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Thursday 19 September 2013 12:13
AM, Deborah Brown wrote:<br>
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style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">A
few features to make note of:</span></p>
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<span
style="font-size:13px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">We
have divided the landscape into several processes –
the broader UN processes, the ITU processes, the
WSIS review process, the IGF and ICANN. We did not
include OECD as it is not a global process, but it
could potentially be added (as could other
processes);</span></p>
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One would like to know on what basis is a IG process called
'global'. This has to be judged on the criterion of impact and not
on who is allowed to participate. We must do a full and honest
inquiry into what are the real and most powerful sites where
global IG rule making takes place (global, as in that impacts the
whole globe) and figure out what is the best way that civil
society can intervene on the side of global pulbic interest. That
is the principal raison d'etre of global civil society. And we can
hardly accomplish our job if we are so shy of even identifying the
most important sites of global IG law/ policy making.<br>
<br>
We read recently, how global net neutrality regime seems right now
being shaped in US courts and some EU policy making spaces....
Same is true of privacy, as is of what should be competition,
media etc regulation vis a vis the Internet.....<br>
<br>
That most of the world doesnt (rather, is not allowed to)
participate in these most significant sites of global IG law/
policy making is not a good reason to ignore them; it is in fact a
good reason to be even more active in participating in them, for a
start, bycritiquing their non participative-ness. At least to the
same extent we are so active in critiquing non participativeness
in terms of non-gov groups in otherwise globally participative IG
processes. <br>
<br>
In relation to these actual, very active, sites of global IG,
places like ITU and, especially, WSIS are more of potential sites
of strong impact.... which of course we should engage with as
well..... But much more IG is going on in the mentioned North
based sites.... very much more.<br>
<br>
And regrettably, even with the sites like ITU and WSIS there seem
to be a plan to engage with, what I see as, largely only a
negative agenda, of what they shouldnt do, but hardly anything of
a positive agenda....<br>
<br>
This flies in the face of the primary reasons that the BestBits
group was first constituted for - which in my understanding were
(and I can be corrected) (1) to give a greater foothold to the
issues, concerns and perspectives of the global South, and (2) to
construct a positive global IG agenda in a background whereby
global groups seem struck with largely negative agendas. My
assessment is that we have largely failed in both these
objectives, whatever else we may have achieved. It is about a year
since this group was constituted, and it is perhaps time for it to
undertake an introspection. <br>
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[.......]<br>
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id="docs-internal-guid-3db48298-325b-1f93-2c89-44f2d2b0e6c5">
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style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">There
will be a session on global internet governance for
civil society at the </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://bestbits.net/ai1ec_event/best-bits-2013/?instance_id="
style="text-decoration:none"><span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Best
Bits meeting </span></a><span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">ahead
of the IGF in Bali. We hope this mapping will be a
useful tool for civil society to strategize and are
looking forward to presenting it at the session.</span></p>
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I had suggested that, in this session, we do not keep ourselves
artificially limited to the ITU and WCIT, and instead examine all
the above suggested important sites of global Internet governance,
in the priority of their respective extent of impact on the global
Internet. It is very unfortunate that this suggestion has been
shot down. <br>
<br>
Also, on a sightly different note, the other session on
surveillance should have been a session on NSA, simple and direct.
That is the big thing of this year. As a very renowned techie
Bruce Shneier has said, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/05/government-betrayed-internet-nsa-spying">US
has violated the basic social contract of the Internet</a>.
In-country surveillance remains one of the biggest issues of IG,
and we have always discussed it. However, to a overwhelming
majority of the global population, Snowden/NSA was not just about
surveillance, as always known and understood, it was about an
completely unacceptable and blatant level of US overlordship and
control over the global Internet. That is the main issue here, and
it is big enough to have shaken the whole world
single-handedly.... But here, one of the key global civil society
group is hesitant to call the issue by its name, and, what to me
appears as, beats about the bush. If civil society wont call a
spade a spade who will. Why are we so cautious about US
sensibilities.... These remains serious issues for me. Civil
society much provide the countervailing power - and therefore if
the Internet is too US centric, and it has to weigh on the other
side, if needed, even disproportionately... <br>
<br>
parminder <br>
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style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Looking
forward to receiving your feedback.</span></p>
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<span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Best,</span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Deborah:
</span><span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(17,85,204);vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:deborah@accessnow.org">deborah@accessnow.org</a></span></p>
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style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Joana:
</span><span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(17,85,204);vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:joana@varonferraz.com">joana@varonferraz.com</a></span></p>
<span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Lea:
</span><span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(17,85,204);vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:lea@gp-digital.org">lea@gp-digital.org</a></span></span><br
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<div
style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font
face="garamond, serif">Deborah Brown</font></div>
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style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font
face="garamond, serif">Senior Policy Analyst</font></div>
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face="garamond, serif">Access | AccessNow.org</font></div>
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face="garamond, serif">E. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:deborah@accessnow.org"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">deborah@accessnow.org</a></font></div>
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face="garamond, serif">@deblebrown</font></div>
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