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HI all<br>
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+1 from me.<br>
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There are a lot of workshops in the main IGF where participation and
support from Best Bits folk would be productive not only for this
specific Civil Society initiative (which is taking a step back from
the compulsory 'multistakeholder' model of the main IGF program) but
also for the workshops. <br>
<br>
A two-way process hopefully!<br>
<br>
Re. hosting of chat rooms to avoid Skype and also to work on
alternatives in principle, and other online spaces. I think there
needs to be some thought about setting up with an individual. What
happens if that person withdraws good will, moves on or has to close
these services? <br>
<br>
Just a thought. Passwords can disappear, domain ownership can become
murky and so on. And all this is alongside whether we need to be
waterproof in a world that is now totally porous!<br>
<br>
best<br>
MF<br>
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I like Joy's ideas. It would be great to get a list of the most
pressing issues<br>
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Hi all - just wanting to add some thoughts on the agenda and
thanks for preparing a draft Jeremy<br>
Copying the original agenda back in for ease of reference:<br>
*Day 1*<br>
<br>
1) Best Bits itself: goals, structure, processes, fundraising,
interactions with other groups, etc. The interim steering group is
working on a documents with our brainstorming about all this,
which we will share soon. The purpose of this session is to reach
a consensus that we are heading in the right direction (or not),
and to provide a mandate to carry out proposals that will help us
grow and become stronger and more sustainable.<br>
<br>
2) Global Internet governance principles and Enhanced
Cooperation. As you know, there are groups at the IGF MAG and the
CSTD discussing these issues, but until now there has been no
strong unified civil society position about the evolution of
Internet governance arrangements, and this equivocation has played
into the wrong hands. We have been largely split between groups
that are averse to any changes, and those with proposals for
changes that are seen as radical. The purpose of this session (as
I see it, anyway) is to get together behind a shared position that
can become a solid base for advocacy. We already have a working
group arguing over these issues (in a good way), which will report
back to this main list soon.<br>
<br>
JL: it would be a shame if the only focus of this session was the
for and against debate about current arrangements. There are other
pressing internet governance issues including for developing
countries access and national internet governance processes,
capacity building and best practice among others. can some time be
made for these as well?<br>
<br>
<br>
*Day 2*<br>
JL: I agree we should not be ITU-centric. Can we include a brief
clearinghouse session (perhaps we can start a thread on it before
the meeting) looking at the range of other forums which might be
relevant for inputs - to help ensure that wider focus<br>
The surveillance session: i agree it should be a key focus and
would emphasise to look at the implications of trends in the range
of invasive and threatening actions being taken by diverse
governments and then at the strategies for civil society to
respond. I know for example, that many civil society groups which
are leading on secure online communciations training for human
rights defenders are doing some deep thinking about how to respond
to surveillance at a practical not only policy level.<br>
<br>
Finally, should there be a session focused on IGF itself: the
programme, side events and so on and sharing if there are any
particular sessions or workshops that Best Bits feels strongly
should have focus or which would be strategically important to
have input to.<br>
<br>
thanks<br>
<br>
Joy<br>
On 14/08/2013 2:16 a.m., Anne Jellema wrote:<br>
<span style="white-space: pre;">> This is great, Parminder. I
leave it to others to comment on whether it should be the sole
focus of CSO discussions at Bali, or one strand among others -
but it is definitely something that Best Bits and Web We Want
could plan together, as it's an excellent fit with the Web We
Want mission of consolidating and promoting a positive vision
for the future of the open Web. <br>
> Beyond coming out with a statement ... even better would be
coming out with an action plan!<br>
> cheers<br>
> Anne<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 4:18 AM, parminder <<a
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wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
> Thanks to the steering committee for this great
start....<br>
><br>
> I havent much to say about day 1. Maybe a few things,
but that later...<br>
><br>
> Abut day 2<br>
><br>
> I think we would do well if we try not to look very ITU
centric ( and I can assure, we do)... Last year was different
with the WCIT in the offing, but this year I dont see why a
session should focus on ITU.<br>
><br>
> As to saying that Snowden or NSA revelations can become
a sub item of this ITU discussion, quite the opposite is what I
think would be in order..<br>
><br>
> Lets be honest, and do justice to the people of the
world in whose name we assemble, work and expend monies....
Internet governance to the world right now is completely
focussed on the Snowden affair. Not only among the laity, but
even the politically well informed and articulate.<br>
><br>
> It is bad enough that the IGF wont largely be about NSA
revelations (even to the extent that Kenya IGF was about the
India's CIRP proposal) although I will be happy to be pleasantly
surprised. But I cant see how a civil society meeting can afford
to be not about it. This is my basic proposition..<br>
><br>
> I think we need to have a session on something very
roughly like the 'The global Internet after Snowden - What will
balkanise the Internet and what can keep it sufficiently global'
- and if possible come out with a statement about it.<br>
><br>
> At the time of formation of BB, we had promised
ourselves a positive agenda , and flogging ITU over a day once
again is not what I think takes us towards that. (Disclaimer: I
have long held that the ITU is not the right place for most
global IG work.)<br>
><br>
> People are interested to know in which directions would
post Snowden global Internet go. And we should discuss this.<br>
><br>
> Lets cut the chaff and go directly to what is/ are the
issue(s) of global governance of the Internet today. For
instance - what are the global ethics, norms, principles and
legal frameworks for trans-border flow of data, information and
digital services? Who should develop ( ensure their compliance)
and how?<br>
><br>
> And wh- at is the meaning of ownership of our digital
lives, and how statist and corporatist controls play with such
rightful ownership.<br>
><br>
> That is what people right now most want to know... Do
we have anything to say to them, and perhaps say on the behalf
of them?<br>
><br>
> parminder<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Saturday 10 August 2013 09:06 PM, Jeremy Malcolm
wrote:<br>
>> Since the good news that the 2013 IGF will be going
ahead after all, it's time to revise and finalise the programme
for our annual meeting in Bali. The interim steering group has
been talking about this, and here was their suggestion for
topics (the descriptions are mine though):<br>
>><br>
>> *Day 1*<br>
>><br>
>> 1) Best Bits itself: goals, structure, processes,
fundraising, interactions with other groups, etc. The interim
steering group is working on a documents with our brainstorming
about all this, which we will share soon. The purpose of this
session is to reach a consensus that we are heading in the right
direction (or not), and to provide a mandate to carry out
proposals that will help us grow and become stronger and more
sustainable.<br>
>><br>
>> 2) Global Internet governance principles and
Enhanced Cooperation. As you know, there are groups at the IGF
MAG and the CSTD discussing these issues, but until now there
has been no strong unified civil society position about the
evolution of Internet governance arrangements, and this
equivocation has played into the wrong hands. We have been
largely split between groups that are averse to any changes, and
those with proposals for changes that are seen as radical. The
purpose of this session (as I see it, anyway) is to get together
behind a shared position that can become a solid base for
advocacy. We already have a working group arguing over these
issues (in a good way), which will report back to this main list
soon.<br>
>><br>
>> *Day 2*<br>
>><br>
>> 3) The ITU processes, up to the ITU Plenipotentiary
in 2014 and the WSIS+10 review. What is coming up? What is our
long term strategy? Have we responded adequately to the ITU's
most recent refusal to open up the Council Working Group on
Internet Policy to stakeholders? If we still don't see change
at the Plenipotentiary, what then - do we disengage?<br>
>><br>
>> 4) The NSA surveillance issue may become a sub-item
of the ITU discussion, given that there are countries that may
bring this debate to the ITU. But it will also include an update
on the Human Rights Council, stateside developments, how this
has altered the Internet governance landscape in the long term,
and general strategy going forward.<br>
>><br>
>> There's also a lot of other work to be done between
now and then, including work on the website (so that you can
actually register for the meeting!) and on fundraising (to help
pay for it). I'll be posting more about that very soon.<br>
>><br>
>> Meanwhile your comments are invited on the
programme...<br>
>><br>
>> -- <br>
>><br>
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