<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Pity. Brazil was partially sympathetic to our request. When I've sent our proposal to the Brazilian representatives, the answer was that they supported the idea of opening documents and working groups related to Internet and Plenipot. Nevertheless, Anatel considered that all the interested stakeholders should become associate members of ITU. o.0 I could do the follow up on the Brazilian position remotely (as the protests here are also taking some part of my time), but I'll reach them to ask about next steps on the Brazilian proposal on the roles of States in this situation of closed debate. <br>
<br></div>Also, besides the CWG-Internet, there is the <b>CWG on WSIS: implementation of outcomes,</b> in which the Chairman is from Russia and one of the vice-chairman from Saudi Arabia. They just had an extraordinary meeting in the 20, working on this concept note on the Open Preparatory Process for the WSIS+10 High-Level Event/Extended Version of the WSIS Forum 2014):<br>
<a href="http://www.itu.int/council/groups/wsis/docs/June-2013/WSIS10-MPP-Preparatory-Process.pdf">http://www.itu.int/council/groups/wsis/docs/June-2013/WSIS10-MPP-Preparatory-Process.pdf</a><br><br></div>I believe its a bit late to be off, even though sometimes it seams that we are still only looking to them from outside, through the window... <br>
<br></div>cheers<br><br></div>joana<br><div><div><br> <br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 12:24 AM, michael gurstein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com" target="_blank">gurstein@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">While agreeing with Gene's overall comments I'm wondering whether the ITU (or the HRC--given Sir Nigel's rather formalized response to Anne's quite (IMHO) appropriate query) is the appropriate venue for Civil Society initiatives in this emerging constellation of issues. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">What we are seeing is the establishment of a global surveillance system based on and through the Internet with multiple (and not necessarily collaborating) participants but centred in the US NSA and its close ally the UK's GCHQ. When combined with the revelations concerning the putting in place by the US of a global system for the offensive use of the Internet for the whole range of potential war-like actions; the broad recognition that the "Internet Freedom" initiatives of the US and its immediate allies in the various global governance fora were rather more concerned with Freedom "to" (do whatever it wanted with the Internet) as opposed to Freedom "from" (interventions in support of the range of human rights as defined by the UDHR, for example); the enlistment (with how much willingness on their part is still unclear) of the major (US) Internet corporations in these overall initiatives and strategies; it's suborning of huge swaths of Civil Society in support of various elements of these processes; and as we await further revelations and the overall necessity to see these as global assaults requiring global responses -- the ITU seems rather too narrow a forum for the kind of very broadly based coalition of forces and initiatives that seems the necessary and appropriate response.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Where exactly to focus the efforts of a coalition of the unwilling, of those of us (all of us) who are "fair game" in this building of the mechanisms of the 1984 dystopia is something that we need to consider and whether any of the specialized agencies or even the UN itself, with its overall dominance by the existing powers, its focus on the modality of increasingly (in an internetworked world) less relevant structures of national boundaries, and its deep incapacity to absorb civil society as a relevant actor; is the appropriate venue, is I think, a subject to be discussed rather than assumed.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Mike<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gene Kimmelman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 25, 2013 5:22 PM<br><b>To:</b> Deborah Brown<br><b>Cc:</b> <<a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [bestbits] Update on Civil Society proposal to open participation in CWG-Internet<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Maybe it is time for civil society to walk away from this process and refuse to accept it as legitimate? At a moment when events make it crystal clear that we need global discussion of critical human rights principles and norms for governments (and companies) to follow, how can we keep banging our heads against the ITU wall of resistance? Maybe an appeal to the UN could shake things up, boycotting the ITU process until we are given a full voice at the table?<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Deborah Brown <<a href="mailto:deborah@accessnow.org" target="_blank">deborah@accessnow.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">Dear all, <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Unfortunately the proposal to open up the ITU Council Working Group on Internet Related Public Policy Issues was not agreed on at the recent ITU Council meeting, which concluded late last week. It seems that although some Council members were supportive of the idea in principle, they choose not to be very vocal, and others simply opposed it. <u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">The Secretary General has said that he will consult a group of experts outside the CWG but no direct participation from civil society will be permitted. I'm trying to find out more details on how the Secretary General will conduct these consultations, as well as when the next CWG-Internet meeting will be, which I will pass along to this list. <u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><div><p style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB">For your information Sweden made the following statement. </span><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><i><span lang="EN-GB">“Sweden notes that the proposal is that the Council does not approve proposals to enable participation by all stakeholders in the work of the CWG Internet.</span></i><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><i><span lang="EN-GB">Sweden further note that there is no proposal to authorize public access to ITU documents related to the Council Working Group on international Internet-related public policy issues (CWG Internet). We need clarification on how stakeholders should be able to participate in the debate if they do not have access to all documents.</span></i><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><i><span lang="EN-GB">Sweden is of the view that openness and transparency is important and is one of the basic principles to be applied in ITU and open participation and public access to documents would help to promote ITU as a transparent and open organization and to improve its public image.</span></i><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><i><span lang="EN-GB">Sweden is further of the view that many issues discussed at ITU meetings are of interest both to the membership and to non-members including the general public and that there is a need to take full account of the interests of all stakeholders. </span></i><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><i><span lang="EN-GB">Sweden fully support the existing multistakeholder model for internet governance and the need to involve all stakeholders, both member states and other stakeholders, in the discussions related to Internet issues, also in ITU.</span></i><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><i><span lang="EN-GB">Sweden therefore is of the view that the group should be open to all stakeholders and not only one group of stakeholders.”</span></i><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p>Best, <br>Deborah <span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="SV"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#500050" lang="SV"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#888888" lang="SV">Deborah Brown</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#500050" lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</div><div><p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#888888" lang="SV">Access | <a href="http://accessnow.org/" target="_blank">AccessNow.org</a></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#500050" lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#888888" lang="SV">E. <a href="mailto:deborah@accessnow.org" target="_blank">deborah@accessnow.org</a></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#500050" lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#888888" lang="SV">@deblebrown</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#500050" lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<br>Joana Varon Ferraz<br>Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade (CTS-FGV)<a href="http://direitorio.fgv.br/cts/" target="_blank"></a><br>@joana_varon<br>
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