<div dir="ltr">Dear all, <div><br></div><div>Given that there is interest in following up on last week's statement at the HRC from people on different lists and, as Anriette pointed out, we'll probably want to work with Geneva-based HR orgs that are not on these lists, I propose taking this conversation off-list for now with everyone who wants to be involved and  regularly reporting back to all the various lists. This would hopefully help minimize the email traffic and cross posting. Additionally, a few people expressed a preference for taking this off-list to facilitate strategizing. I hope this approach sounds okay to everyone. Please let me know if you object. <div>

<br></div><div>So far the following people have written saying that they'd like to be included in this discussion moving forward are: Allon, Anja, APC (Anriette and Joy), Joana, Matthias, and Norbert. </div><div>
<br></div><div>Is there anyone I missed? Anyone I should add?</div><div><br></div><div>Since the HRC session ended on Friday, we now have some time to regroup, and consider a variety of ways to follow up in-country and in Geneva. </div>

<div><br></div><div>All the best, <br>Deborah </div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:39 AM, Allon Bar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:allon@allonbar.com" target="_blank">allon@allonbar.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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    Agreed. One idea may be to bring the full force of this wide
    coalition of organizations to the fore by drafting a single letter
    appropriate for all countries that are possibly involved in
    extracting surveillance data obtained through indiscriminate means,
    and submit a localized version (referencing that country) to each of
    the respective governments, still bearing the signature of the group
    of organizations.<br>
    So this would utilize the solidarity of all for the specific effect
    these actions have on citizens in another country, 1) asking the
    government in question about its involvement in a program as
    described above; 2) urging the government to verify by what means
    information they receive from another state has been obtained; 3)
    urging the government to refrain from using information obtained by
    means violating the human rights of its citizens; and 4) again
    underlining that also in its own conduct toward its citizens the
    government is bound by human rights principles as well as its own
    laws, protecting the individual against intrusion by its government
    and operating on a basis of presumed innocence.<br>
    <br>
    "Violations supported by you affect us all." <br><div><div class="h5">
    <br>
    <br>
     <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 6/12/13 2:34 AM, Salanieta
      Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote:<br>
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      <div>The greatest impact in terms of advocacy in this area, would
        be within governments as commitments may be made in forums but
        the real test is within nations, behind closed doors.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>The minute people get accustomed to minute corrosions in
        principle, is the inevitable expectation that basic tenets have
        fallen.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Advocacy must be two pronged, with more emphasis on the
        In-country advocacy. With social media, this should allow for
        greater awareness of the public, strategic awareness raising and
        campaigning and utilizing all tools available.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Sala<br>
        <br>
        Sent from my iPad</div>
      <div><br>
        On Jun 12, 2013, at 6:29 AM, Deborah Brown <<a href="mailto:deborah@accessnow.org" target="_blank">deborah@accessnow.org</a>>
        wrote:<br>
        <br>
      </div>
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        <div>
          <div dir="ltr">Dear all, 
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>The HRC statement (which is continuing to attract sign
              on) makes three requests to the Human Rights Council
              (pasted below). Is anyone interested in starting a
              separate thread (on- or off-list) about taking these
              requests forward? In particular it would be good to have
              Geneva-based people and those with experience in advocacy
              at the HRC involved, but of course all are welcome. I
              think it would be good to do coordinated outreach to
              governments and to follow up with OHCHR, which already
              provided some advice on crafting the recommendations. </div>
            <div>
              <ul>
                <li>convening a special session to examine this case</li>
                <li>supporting a multistakeholder process to implement
                  the recommendation of Mr La Rue that the Human Rights
                  Committee develop a new General Comment 16 on the
                  right to privacy in light of technological
                  advancements, and,</li>
                <li>requesting the High Commissioner to prepare a report
                  that:</li>
                <ul>
                  <li>formally asks states to report on practices and
                    laws in place on surveillance and what corrective
                    steps will they will take to meet human rights
                    standards, and,</li>
                  <li>examines the implications of this case in in the
                    light of the Human Rights Council endorsed United
                    Nations Guiding Principles on Business and Human
                    Rights, the “Protect, Respect and Remedy” Framework
                    of A/HRC/RES/17/4.</li>
                </ul>
              </ul>
              <div>Warm regards, <br>
                Deborah </div>
            </div>
          </div>
          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
            <br>
            <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:03 PM,
              shaila mistry <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shailam@yahoo.com" target="_blank">shailam@yahoo.com</a>></span>
              wrote:<br>
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                  <div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">++1<br>
                    This is excellent <br>
                    Shaila<br>
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                    <div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;color:purple">The
                          journey begins sooner than you anticipate !</span></b></div>
                    <div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;color:purple">.....................
                          the renaissance of composure !<br>
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                          <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b>
                            Anriette Esterhuysen <<a href="mailto:anriette@apc.org" target="_blank">anriette@apc.org</a>><br>
                            <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
                            Deborah Brown <<a href="mailto:deborah@accessnow.org" target="_blank">deborah@accessnow.org</a>>
                            <br>
                            <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b>
                            <a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>;
                            "<a href="mailto:irp@lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org" target="_blank">irp@lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org</a>"
                            <<a href="mailto:irp@lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org" target="_blank">irp@lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org</a>>
                            <br>
                            <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                            Monday, June 10, 2013 3:56 AM<br>
                            <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                            Re: [IRPCoalition] [bestbits] Re: CS
                            statement: DNI releases Fact Sheet on PRISM,
                            but the damage is already done<br>
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                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <div><br>
                              Dear all<br>
                              <br>
                              Here is the version that will be read. We
                              had to shorten it so that it<br>
                              is within the 2 minutes space we have.<br>
                              <br>
                              Anriette<br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              On 10/06/2013 12:36, Deborah Brown wrote:<br>
                              > Thanks Joana!<br>
                              > Just a quick note to explain that the
                              statement will be made on behalf of<br>
                              > APC because as an ECOSOC accredited
                              org they are able to make interventions<br>
                              > and have graciously facilitated and
                              contributed this intervention. We have<br>
                              > asked the speaker from HRW to take a
                              look at the the Best Bits link for the<br>
                              > current list of signatories before
                              reading it at the afternoon session 1500<br>
                              > Geneva time, so she will be able to
                              say that she is making the statement on<br>
                              > behalf of xx orgs from around the
                              world. So please make sure you endorse<br>
                              > the statement at <a href="http://bestbits.net/prism-nsa/" target="_blank">http://bestbits.net/prism-nsa/</a><br>
                              ><br>
                              > I will begin adding those of you who
                              already endorsed it, so look for a<br>
                              > confirmation email and click the
                              link.<br>
                              ><br>
                              > Jeremy, can you fix the layout and
                              footnotes when you have a chance?<br>
                              ><br>
                              > Thanks to all of you for helping to
                              make this happen in less than 24 hours<br>
                              > across many time zones.<br>
                              ><br>
                              > Best,<br>
                              > Deborah<br>
                              ><br>
                              ><br>
                              > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 6:30 AM,
                              Joana Varon <<a href="mailto:joana@varonferraz.com" target="_blank">joana@varonferraz.com</a>>
                              wrote:<br>
                              ><br>
                              >> Dear Anriette and all,<br>
                              >><br>
                              >> Thanks a lot for all the work
                              that has been made in such a short period
                              of<br>
                              >> time. This was amazing!<br>
                              >> Here is the link for the next
                              endorsements: <a href="http://bestbits.net/prism-nsa/" target="_blank">http://bestbits.net/prism-nsa/</a><br>
                              >> Please, let's spread it!<br>
                              >> best<br>
                              >> joana<br>
                              >><br>
                              >> --<br>
                              >><br>
                              >> Joana Varon Ferraz<br>
                              >> Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade
                              (CTS-FGV) <<a href="http://direitorio.fgv.br/cts/" target="_blank">http://direitorio.fgv.br/cts/</a>><br>
                              >> @joana_varon<br>
                              >><br>
                              >><br>
                              >> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:19 AM,
                              Anriette Esterhuysen <<a href="mailto:anriette@apc.org" target="_blank">anriette@apc.org</a>>wrote:<br>
                              >><br>
                              >>> Dear all<br>
                              >>><br>
                              >>> Thanks for all the inputs. 
                              We have tried to include them all.<br>
                              >>><br>
                              >>> Here is the final text that
                              will be uploaded to the HRC site and read<br>
                              >>> later today by Human Rights
                              Watch on APC's behalf. We have included<br>
                              >>> signatories as available now.
                              Deborah will coordinate adding further<br>
                              >>> names.<br>
                              >>><br>
                              >>> Best<br>
                              >>><br>
                              >>> Anriette<br>
                              >>><br>
                              >>><br>
                              >>> On 10/06/2013 11:40, Marianne
                              Franklin wrote:<br>
                              >>>> Dear all<br>
                              >>>><br>
                              >>>> +1 from me.<br>
                              >>>><br>
                              >>>> MF<br>
                              >>>><br>
                              >>>> On 10/06/2013 10:37,
                              parminder wrote:<br>
                              >>>>> I support this text
                              by Joy...<br>
                              >>>>><br>
                              >>>>> On Monday 10 June
                              2013 02:56 PM, joy wrote:<br>
                              >>>> Hi - sharing some ideas
                              that came also from discussion with Frank
                              La<br>
                              >>>> Rue's office and my
                              suggested edits relate to the last para,
                              the<br>
                              >>>> recommended action to the
                              Council: - I think we have a 3 pronged<br>
                              >>>> approach to the call to
                              action which is looking really good:<br>
                              >>>><br>
                              >>>> "We call on the Human
                              Rights Council to act swiftly to prevent<br>
                              >>>> creation of a global
                              Internet based surveillance system by:<br>
                              >>>> 1) convening a special
                              session to examine this case 2) supporting
                              the<br>
                              >>>> recommendation of Mr La
                              Rue that the Human Rights Committee
                              develop of<br>
                              >>>> a new General Comment 16
                              on the right to privacy in light of<br>
                              >>>> technological
                              advancements and 3) requesting the High
                              Commissioner to<br>
                              >>>> prepare a report a)
                              formally asking states to report on
                              practices and<br>
                              >>>> laws in place on
                              survellilance and what corrective steps
                              will they<br>
                              >>>> willl take to meet human
                              rights standards and b) examing the<br>
                              >>>> implications of this case
                              in in the light of the Human Rights
                              Council<br>
                              >>>> endorsed United Nations
                              Guiding Principles on Business and Human<br>
                              >>>> Rights, the "Protect,
                              Respect and Remedy" Framework of
                              A/HRC/RES/17/4.<br>
                              >>>><br>
                              >>>> Joy<br>
                              >>>><br>
                              >>>><br>
                              >>>><br>
                              >>>> On 10/06/2013 8:47 p.m.,<br>
                              >>>> Joana Varon wrote:<br>
                              >>>>> Sure, Parminder. Lets
                              remove company names.<br>
                              >>>>> And thanks for the
                              comprehension.<br>
                              >>>><br>
                              >>>>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013
                              at 9:38 AM, parminder<br>
                              >>>> <<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" target="_blank">parminder@itforchange.net</a>
                              <mailto:<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" target="_blank">parminder@itforchange.net</a>>>
                              wrote:<br>
                              >>>><br>
                              >>>>>    Hi All<br>
                              >>>>>    IT for Change will
                              endorse this .... (There are some changes
                              I<br>
                              >>>> would have liked to
                              propose but due to the urgency of the
                              issue i<br>
                              >>>> would not do it now.
                              Certainly the names of the companies
                              involved<br>
                              >>>> should have not been
                              mentioned in the statement. Can we still
                              do it?.)<br>
                              >>>><br>
                              >>>>>    I am sure some of
                              you may already be in contact with him but
                              if<br>
                              >>>> not Philippe Dam with
                              Human Rights Watch may be a useful person
                              to<br>
                              >>>> talk to on this. i am
                              cc-ing the email to him. He is attending
                              the HR<br>
                              >>>> Council meeting. Wonder
                              if Joy is still there?<br>
                              >>>><br>
                              >>>>>    Best, parminder<br>
                              >>>><br>
                              >>>>>    On Monday 10 June
                              2013 10:07 AM, Deborah Brown wrote:<br>
                              >>>>>>    Dear all,<br>
                              >>>>>><br>
                              >>>>>>    Here's a quick
                              update on the draft statement to the Human<br>
                              >>>> Rights Council regarding
                              the impact of state surveillance on human<br>
                              >>>> rights. The draft
                              statement is below. We are currently
                              reaching out to<br>
                              >>>> Geneva based orgs who
                              might be able to assist with delivery
                              (thanks<br>
                              >>>> Joy) and if not we can
                              still publish it and do outreach.<br>
                              >>>>>>    Given the
                              short timeframe, can any further edits be
                              sent on<br>
                              >>>> this thread in the next
                              3.5 hours? Then I will post it to the Best<br>
                              >>>> Bits site to facilitate
                              endorsement. In the meantime, if
                              organizations<br>
                              >>>> or individuals feel
                              comfortable endorsing this draft, please
                              reply on<br>
                              >>>> this thread and we can
                              add your name through the Best Bits system<br>
                              >>>> later. As a reminder,
                              this statement would be part of a debate
                              at the<br>
                              >>>> HRC that will take place
                              at 15:00 Geneva time on Monday. Though not<br>
                              >>>> ideal, this was the best
                              time frame we could come up with for<br>
                              >>>> facilitating input and
                              sign on.<br>
                              >>>>>>    Thanks to
                              everyone who worked on this over the last
                              12 hours<br>
                              >>>> and apologies for any
                              shortcoming in the process because of time<br>
                              >>>> constraints. Looking
                              forward to more input and to working
                              together to<br>
                              >>>> get this finalized.<br>
                              >>>>>>    Best,<br>
                              >>>>>>    Deborah<br>
                              >>>>>><br>
                              >>>>>>    Agenda item
                              8:/General Debate/<br>
                              >>>>>><br>
                              >>>>>>      Civil
                              Society Statement to the Human Rights
                              Council on the<br>
                              >>>> impact of State
                              Surveillance on Human Rights addressing
                              the PRISM/NSA<br>
                              >>> case<br>
                              >>>>>>    Thank you Mr.
                              President. I speak on behalf of ______<br>
                              >>>> organizations from ___
                              countries, across ___ regions. This is a
                              truly<br>
                              >>>> global issue. We express
                              strong concern over recent revelations of<br>
                              >>>> surveillance of internet
                              and telephone communications of US and
                              non-US<br>
                              >>>> nationals by the
                              government of the United States of
                              America. Equally<br>
                              >>>> concerning is the
                              provision of access to the results of that<br>
                              >>>> surveillance to other
                              governments such as the United Kingdom,
                              and the<br>
                              >>>> indication of the
                              possible complicity of some of the
                              globally dominant<br>
                              >>>> US-based Internet
                              companies whose services and reach are
                              universally<br>
                              >>>> distributed. These
                              revelations raise the appearance of, and
                              may even<br>
                              >>>> suggest a blatant and
                              systematic disregard for human rights as<br>
                              >>>> articulated in Articles
                              17 and 19 of the International Covenant on<br>
                              >>>> Civil and Political
                              Rights (ICCPR), as well as Articles 12 and
                              19 of<br>
                              >>>> the Universal Declaration
                              of Human Rights.<br>
                              >>>>>>    Just last year
                              the Council unanimously adopted Resolution
                              20/8,<br>
                              >>>> which "Affirms that the
                              same rights that people have offline must
                              also<br>
                              >>>> be protected online, in
                              particular freedom of expression ..."[1]
                              But<br>
                              >>>> during this session the
                              Special Rapporteur on Freedom of
                              Expression<br>
                              >>>> reported (A/HRC/23/40)
                              worrying new trends in state surveillance
                              of<br>
                              >>>> communications with
                              serious implications for the exercise of
                              the human<br>
                              >>>> rights to privacy and to
                              freedom of opinion and expression. The<br>
                              >>>> Special Rapporteur notes
                              that inadequate and non-existent legal<br>
                              >>>> frameworks "create a
                              fertile ground for arbitrary and unlawful<br>
                              >>>> infringements of the
                              right to privacy in communications and,<br>
                              >>>> consequently, also
                              threaten the protection of the right to
                              freedom of<br>
                              >>>> opinion and expression".
                              [2]<br>
                              >>>>>>    Affirmation of
                              internet rights and freedoms by
                              governments in<br>
                              >>>> the cross regional
                              statement on freedom of expression and the
                              Internet<br>
                              >>>> is important. But civil
                              society is extremely concerned that<br>
                              >>>> governments supporting
                              this statement are not addressing, and in
                              fact<br>
                              >>>> are ignoring, the recent
                              serious revelations about mass
                              surveillance<br>
                              >>>> in the PRISM/NSA case.
                              Although the personal information
                              disclosed<br>
                              >>>> under this programme is
                              subject to the oversight of the US Foreign<br>
                              >>>> Intelligence Surveillance
                              Court (FISC), that court sits in secret
                              and<br>
                              >>>> has no responsiblity for
                              ensuring the human rights of those not<br>
                              >>>> subject to US
                              jurisdiction.<br>
                              >>>>>>    The
                              introduction of surveillance mechanisms
                              into the very heart<br>
                              >>>> of the data streams of
                              the globally central service providers
                              storing<br>
                              >>>> and communicating the
                              majority of the world's digital
                              communications<br>
                              >>>> is a backward step for
                              human rights in the digital age. As La Rue<br>
                              >>>> notes:  "This raises
                              serious concern with regard to the<br>
                              >>>> extra-territorial
                              commission of human rights violations and
                              the<br>
                              >>>> inability of individuals
                              to know that they might be subject to
                              foreign<br>
                              >>>> surveillance, challenge
                              decisions with respect to foreign<br>
                              >>>> surveillance, or seek
                              remedies." An immediate response is
                              needed.<br>
                              >>>>>>    We call on
                              companies that are voluntary and
                              involuntary parties<br>
                              >>>> to the violation of the
                              fundamental rights of their users globally
                              to<br>
                              >>>> immediately suspend this
                              practice. Such action would uphold the
                              Human<br>
                              >>>> Rights Council endorsed
                              United Nations Guiding Principles on
                              Business<br>
                              >>>> and Human Rights, the
                              "Protect, Respect and Remedy" Framework of<br>
                              >>>> A/HRC/RES/17/4.<br>
                              >>>>>>    We call for
                              protection of those who have made these
                              violations<br>
                              >>>> public. As Mr La Rue
                              notes, laws "must not be used to target<br>
                              >>>> whistleblowers ... nor
                              should they hamper the legitimate
                              oversight of<br>
                              >>>> government action by
                              citizens." We urge States protect those<br>
                              >>>> whistleblowers involved
                              in this case and to support their efforts
                              to<br>
                              >>>> combat violations of the
                              fundamental human rights of all global<br>
                              >>>> citizens. Whistleblowers
                              play a critical role in promoting<br>
                              >>>> transparency and
                              upholding the human rights of all.<br>
                              >>>>>>    This recent
                              case is a new kind of human rights
                              violation<br>
                              >>>> specifically relevant to
                              the Internet and one foreshadowed in the<br>
                              >>>> Council's 2012 Expert
                              Panel on Freedom of Expression and the
                              Internet.<br>
                              >>>> We therefore call on the
                              Human Rights Council to act swiftly to<br>
                              >>>> prevent creation of a
                              global Internet based surveillance system.
                              One<br>
                              >>>> action the Council could
                              take would be to follow up the Expert
                              Panel<br>
                              >>>> by convening a
                              multistakeholder process to support the
                              recommendation<br>
                              >>>> of Mr. La Rue that the
                              Human Rights Committee develop a new
                              General<br>
                              >>>> Comment on  the right to
                              privacy in light of technological
                              advancements<br>
                              >>>>>>    [1]<br>
                              >>> <a href="http://daccess-dds-ny.un.org/doc/RESOLUTION/GEN/G12/153/25/PDF/G1215325.pdf?OpenElement" target="_blank">http://daccess-dds-ny.un.org/doc/RESOLUTION/GEN/G12/153/25/PDF/G1215325.pdf?OpenElement</a><br>

                              >>>>>>    [2]<br>
                              >>> <a href="http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/HRBodies/HRCouncil/RegularSession/Session23/A.HRC.23.40_EN.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/HRBodies/HRCouncil/RegularSession/Session23/A.HRC.23.40_EN.pdf</a><br>

                              >>>>>>    ENDS<br>
                              >>>>>><br>
                              >>>>>><br>
                              >>>>>>    On Sun, Jun 9,
                              2013 at 9:16 PM, Gene Kimmelman<br>
                              >>>> <<a href="mailto:genekimmelman@gmail.com" target="_blank">genekimmelman@gmail.com</a>
                              <mailto:<a href="mailto:genekimmelman@gmail.com" target="_blank">genekimmelman@gmail.com</a>>>

                              wrote:<br>
                              >>>>>>        I'm glad
                              to see everyone diving in on this. I have
                              only one<br>
                              >>>> overarching issue to
                              raise concerning the framing of whatever
                              groups<br>
                              >>>> decide to put out:  I
                              believe it would be most powerful to
                              challenge<br>
                              >>>> both the US Gvt. and
                              companies to explain how what they have
                              done<br>
                              >>>> does  NOT constitute 
                              human rights violations, with specific
                              details<br>
                              >>>> to explain their stance. 
                              I believe all the language people are<br>
                              >>>> suggesting can fit within
                              this framing, and put the burden on others<br>
                              >>>> to show how our concerns
                              are not justified.  This has more to do
                              with<br>
                              >>>> long-term diplomatic
                              impact that anything else; the debate will<br>
                              >>>> continue and many of the
                              facts will probably never be made public
                              --<br>
                              >>>> but I think it is a
                              strategic advantage for civil society to
                              always be<br>
                              >>>> calling for transparency
                              and basing its conclusions on both what
                              facts<br>
                              >>>> are presented, and what
                              concerns are not addressed by the
                              presentation<br>
                              >>>> of convincing
                              arguments/facts.<br>
                              >>>>>>        On Jun 9,
                              2013, at 8:50 PM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:<br>
                              >>>>>><br>
                              >>>>>>>        On
                              10/06/2013, at 12:47 AM, Deborah Brown<br>
                              >>>> <<a href="mailto:deborah@accessnow.org" target="_blank">deborah@accessnow.org</a>
                              <mailto:<a href="mailto:deborah@accessnow.org" target="_blank">deborah@accessnow.org</a>>>
                              wrote:<br>
                              >>>><br>
                              >>>>>>>>        In
                              any case, we could still work on a
                              statement to be<br>
                              >>>> released around this
                              discussion, or later in the HRC session,
                              which<br>
                              >>>> ends this week. Jeremy,
                              have you had the chance to work on an
                              outline?<br>
                              >>>> If not, I'm happy to help
                              start the drafting process. My main
                              concern<br>
                              >>>> is whether we have enough
                              time for significant participation from a<br>
                              >>>> diversity of groups so
                              that this is coming from a global
                              coalition.<br>
                              >>>><br>
                              >>>>>>>        Would
                              it be OK if we copy it from the pad to a
                              sign-on<br>
                              >>>> statement on <a href="http://bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits.net</a> <<a href="http://bestbits.net/" target="_blank">http://bestbits.net/</a>>
                              5 hours before the<br>
                              >>>> hearing?  Those who are
                              working on the pad can pre-endorse it
                              there.<br>
                              >>>> If 5 hours ahead is not
                              enough, then I'll need to instruct someone<br>
                              >>>> else on how to do it
                              earlier, because I'll be in the air until
                              then.<br>
                              >>>><br>
                              >>>>>>>        --<br>
                              >>>>>>>        *Dr
                              Jeremy Malcolm<br>
                              >>>>>>>        Senior
                              Policy Officer<br>
                              >>>>>>>       
                              Consumers International | the global
                              campaigning voice for<br>
                              >>>> consumers*<br>
                              >>>>>>>        Office
                              for Asia-Pacific and the Middle East<br>
                              >>>>>>>        Lot
                              5-1 Wisma WIM, 7 Jalan Abang Haji Openg,
                              TTDI, 60000<br>
                              >>>> Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia<br>
                              >>>>>>>        Tel: <a href="tel:%2B60%203%207726%201599" value="+60377261599" target="_blank">+60
                                3 7726 1599</a>
                              <tel:%2B60%203%207726%201599><br>
                              >>>><br>
                              >>>>>>>        WCRD
                              2013 -- Consumer Justice Now! | Consumer
                              Protection<br>
                              >>>> Map: <a href="https://wcrd2013.crowdmap.com/main" target="_blank">https://wcrd2013.crowdmap.com/main
                              </a>| #wcrd2013<br>
                              >>>><br>
                              >>>><br>
                              >>>>>>>       
                              @Consumers_Int | <a href="http://www.consumersinternational.org" target="_blank">www.consumersinternational.org</a><br>
                              >>>> <<a href="http://www.consumersinternational.org/" target="_blank">http://www.consumersinternational.org/</a>>
                              |<br>
                              >>>> <a href="http://www.facebook.com/consumersinternational" target="_blank">www.facebook.com/consumersinternational</a><br>
                              >>>> <<a href="http://www.facebook.com/consumersinternational" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/consumersinternational</a>><br>
                              >>>><br>
                              >>>>>>>        Read
                              our email confidentiality notice<br>
                              >>>> <<a href="http://www.consumersinternational.org/email-confidentiality" target="_blank">http://www.consumersinternational.org/email-confidentiality</a>>.
                              Don't<br>
                              >>>> print this email unless
                              necessary.<br>
                              >>>><br>
                              >>>><br>
                              >>>><br>
                              >>>>>>>        --<br>
                              >>>>>>>        You
                              received this message because you are
                              subscribed to<br>
                              >>>> the Google Groups "Web We
                              Want working group" group.<br>
                              >>>>>>>        To
                              unsubscribe from this group and stop
                              receiving emails<br>
                              >>>> from it, send an email to
                              webwewant+<a href="mailto:unsubscribe@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">unsubscribe@googlegroups.com</a><br>
                              >>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:webwewant%2B" target="_blank">webwewant+</a><a href="mailto:unsubscribe@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">unsubscribe@googlegroups.com</a>>.<br>

                              >>>>>>>        For
                              more options, visit<br>
                              >>>> <a href="https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out" target="_blank">https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out</a>.<br>
                              >>>><br>
                              >>>><br>
                              >>>>>><br>
                              >>>>>><br>
                              >>>>>><br>
                              >>>>>>    --<br>
                              >>>>>>    Deborah Brown<br>
                              >>>>>>    Policy Analyst<br>
                              >>>>>>    Access | <a href="http://AccessNow.org" target="_blank">AccessNow.org</a><br>
                              >>>>>>    E. <a href="mailto:deborah@accessnow.org" target="_blank">deborah@accessnow.org</a>
                              <mailto:<a href="mailto:deborah@accessnow.org" target="_blank">deborah@accessnow.org</a>><br>
                              >>>>>>    @deblebrown<br>
                              >>>>>>    PGP 0x5EB4727D<br>
                              >>>><br>
                              >>>><br>
                              >>>><br>
                              >>>>> --<br>
                              >>>>> --<br>
                              >>>>> Joana Varon Ferraz<br>
                              >>>>> Centro de Tecnologia
                              e Sociedade (CTS-FGV)<br>
                              >>>>> @joana_varon<br>
                              >>> --<br>
                              >>>
                              ------------------------------------------------------<br>
                              >>> anriette esterhuysen <a href="mailto:anriette@apc.org" target="_blank">anriette@apc.org</a><br>
                              >>> executive director,
                              association for progressive communications<br>
                              >>> <a href="http://www.apc.org" target="_blank">www.apc.org</a><br>
                              >>> po box 29755, melville 2109<br>
                              >>> south africa<br>
                              >>> tel/fax <a href="tel:%2B27%2011%20726%201692" value="+27117261692" target="_blank">+27
                                11 726 1692</a><br>
                              >>><br>
                              >>><br>
                              >>>
                              _______________________________________________<br>
                              >>> IRP mailing list<br>
                              >>> <a href="mailto:IRP@lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org" target="_blank">IRP@lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org</a><br>
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                              >>><br>
                              >>><br>
                              >><br>
                              >> --<br>
                              >><br>
                              >><br>
                              >><br>
                              ><br>
                              <br>
                              -- <br>
------------------------------------------------------<br>
                              anriette esterhuysen <a href="mailto:anriette@apc.org" target="_blank">anriette@apc.org</a><br>
                              executive director, association for
                              progressive communications<br>
                              <a href="http://www.apc.org" target="_blank">www.apc.org</a><br>
                              po box 29755, melville 2109<br>
                              south africa<br>
                              tel/fax <a href="tel:%2B27%2011%20726%201692" value="+27117261692" target="_blank">+27
                                11 726 1692</a><br>
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