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thanks Nnenna - a great suggestion<br>
Joy<br>
On 17/06/2013 6:41 a.m., <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:genekimmelman@gmail.com">genekimmelman@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br>
<span style="white-space: pre;">> +1 with a few groups available
for follow up by phone/email<br>
><br>
><br>
> -------- Original message --------<br>
> From: Nnenna Nwakanma <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nnenna75@gmail.com"><nnenna75@gmail.com></a><br>
> Date:<br>
> To: Gene Kimmelman <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:genekimmelman@gmail.com"><genekimmelman@gmail.com></a><br>
> Cc: Deborah Brown <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:deborah@accessnow.org"><deborah@accessnow.org></a>,michael
gurstein <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com"><gurstein@gmail.com></a>,Jeremy Malcolm
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jeremy@ciroap.org"><jeremy@ciroap.org></a>,Kevin Bankston
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:kbankston@cdt.org"><kbankston@cdt.org></a>,"<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net"><bestbits@lists.bestbits.net></a>"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net"><bestbits@lists.bestbits.net></a>,<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:irp@lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org,webwewant@googlegroups.com">irp@lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org,webwewant@googlegroups.com</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [bestbits] Input needed on options for delivery
of international civil society letter to Congress on NSA<br>
><br>
><br>
> Thinking it might be good to send as BEST BITS COALITION of
International Organisations, represented by a "member" known to
congress and "Dear Senators and Representatives"<br>
><br>
> Upside, the "international" character is there, and the
influence + national recognition will be kept. If there is
follow-up, it will come via the COALITION representative,
supported by other Best Bits signatory "members"<br>
><br>
> My 2 cents<br>
><br>
> Nnenna<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Gene Kimmelman
<<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:genekimmelman@gmail.com">genekimmelman@gmail.com</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:genekimmelman@gmail.com"><mailto:genekimmelman@gmail.com></a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> I think it should be addressed to each senator and
representative ("Dear Senators and Representatives") -- no need to
be individualized unless someone can just send it through an
existing list.<br>
><br>
> I think it should be sent from Best Bits, with a
characterization of who we are, plus any organization/individual
involved (with phone and email contact person) that desires to
field inquiries from Congress -- so long as the list isn't bigger
than 5-6 people/groups, I think that gives members of Congress a
sense of who they can reach out to for more information.
Obviously, those who volunteer would need to agree to provide
responses, and limit their engagement under the Best Bits rubric
to the substance of the letter (and speak separately for their own
organization).<br>
><br>
> On Jun 16, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Deborah Brown wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hi all, <br>
>><br>
>> I wanted to send a quick note regarding delivery of
the letter to Congress. I've been working with CDT and Free Press
to figure this out and we now have a few options to bring back to
the group. <br>
>><br>
>> From what we were able to determine, the American
Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) is best equipped to send the letter
to Congress through their backend and they could route it through
whatever email sending address we want. <br>
>><br>
>> Kevin, can you confirm that's correct?<br>
>><br>
>> Assuming this is correct, we need to figure out what
group should be the "sender". A few factors that play into this
decision are:<br>
>><br>
>> * Recognition in Congress (so that it's opened)<br>
>> * Sufficiently international/reflective of the
broad group working on this<br>
>> * Capacity for follow up, should staffers/media
reply<br>
>><br>
>> */Are there other factors we should be considering?/<br>
>> *<br>
>><br>
>> Here are a few other options (in no particular
order), with some initial thoughts on pros/cons. Please add
commentary and feel free to disagree. <br>
>><br>
>> 1) Send it from a higher profile international group,
like HRW. *upside: *we'd be most likely to get the attention of
the staffers. *downside*: May not be able to get confirmation from
HRW to send it in time.<br>
>><br>
>> 2) send it from a Best Bits email address. *upside:
*reflective of actual authorship, already has buy-in from group
members. *downside*: minimal recognition in Congress. Does Best
Bits have the infrastructure to manage response or follow up?<br>
>><br>
>> 3) Send it from a US org with int'l operations, such
as EFF or CDT. *upside*: has recognition in Congress.*downside:
*Are EFF/CDT perceived as int'l enough to represent this
coalition? Would also need to check on their capacity to respond.<br>
>><br>
>> 4) Send from ACLU: *upside: *they've got the system
and name brand recognition. *downside*: they're very American, and
it may be problematic to have the letter delivered by a group that
was not involved in its drafting. Would also have to see if they
have the capacity to respond<br>
>><br>
>> 5) Send from the Web Foundation. *upside: *they're
international and well established. *downside*: not sure about
their recognition in Congress. Would need to see if they have the
capacity for follow up.<br>
>><br>
>> I should add that Access is happy to be the "sender",
and we have the dedicated staff/capacity to do follow up. Our
recognition in Congress, however, is minimal, and while we
consider ourselves an international org., I can't judge whether
we're perceived as int'l enough to send the letter on behalf of
this coalition.<br>
>><br>
>> /*What options are missing here?*/<br>
>><br>
>> I realize people working for many of the
above-mentioned organizations are on these lists, so please feel
free to jump in.<br>
>><br>
>> Another question I've raised a few times here is
*who* exactly we're planning to send the letter to? All members of
Congress? Or relevant committee members in the House of
Representatives and the Senate?<br>
>><br>
>> Looking forward to yuour feedback on this.<br>
>><br>
>> All the best, <br>
>> Deborah <br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 7:17 AM, michael gurstein
<<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">gurstein@gmail.com</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com"><mailto:gurstein@gmail.com></a>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Significant typo at end of last sentence on
paragraph 4 "fatally impacts consumer’s trust on all American (…)
that provide worldwide services." (word missing--likely
"companies"<br>
>><br>
>> <br>
>><br>
>> Otherwise great job everyone. Sorry that I
wasn't around to edit at the end… family stuff kept me off the
Internet all day… but whoever did it did a great job…<br>
>><br>
>> <br>
>><br>
>> M<br>
>><br>
>> <br>
>><br>
>> *From:*webwewant@googlegroups.com
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:webwewant@googlegroups.com"><mailto:webwewant@googlegroups.com></a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:webwewant@googlegroups.com">mailto:webwewant@googlegroups.com</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:webwewant@googlegroups.com"><mailto:webwewant@googlegroups.com></a>] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy
Malcolm<br>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 13, 2013 7:58 PM<br>
>> *To:* Kevin Bankston<br>
>> *Cc:* <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net"><mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net></a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net"><mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net></a>>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:irp@lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org">irp@lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:irp@lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org"><mailto:irp@lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org></a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org"><mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org></a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:webwewant@googlegroups.com">webwewant@googlegroups.com</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:webwewant@googlegroups.com"><mailto:webwewant@googlegroups.com></a><br>
>> *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] Re: Delivery of
International civil society letter to Congress to follow up from
HRC statement<br>
>><br>
>> <br>
>><br>
>> On 14/06/2013, at 7:48 AM, Kevin Bankston
<<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:kbankston@cdt.org">kbankston@cdt.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:kbankston@cdt.org"><mailto:kbankston@cdt.org></a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> A few typos:<br>
>><br>
>> <br>
>><br>
>> Paragraph 4 includes the sentence "That was
clearly not the case with the latest practices of the US
Government (this is inconsistent with references to “allegations”
above)" I assume we want to cut the parenthetical. To address
the comment in the parenthetical, perhaps change "clearly" to
"apparently"?<br>
>><br>
>> <br>
>><br>
>> Paragraph 5: "detailed" is misspelled "detailsed"<br>
>><br>
>> <br>
>><br>
>> Paragraph 6 begins and ends with quotation marks
that need to be deleted. The phrase "which constitute an almost
certainly human rights violations" should be "which constitutes an
almost certain human rights violation". <br>
>><br>
>> <br>
>><br>
>> Fixed, and I also linked between this letter and
the last one to the UN Human Rights Council.<br>
>><br>
>> <br>
>><br>
>> -- <br>
>><br>
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>> -- <br>
>> Deborah Brown<br>
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