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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>+1<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>M<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net [mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Carolina Rossini<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 14, 2013 9:05 AM<br><b>To:</b> Jeremy Malcolm<br><b>Cc:</b> Marianne Franklin; <bestbits@lists.bestbits.net> (bestbits@lists.bestbits.net); irp@lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [bestbits] New private list private@lists.bestbits.net<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hi all, <br><br>I am all for transparency, too. I even document my day to day work in wikis. However, sometimes we just need a private forum to discuss strategy. That is all. People can or cannot use it. But at least, they have the alternative. And it is just an alternative. <br><br>C<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Jeremy Malcolm <<a href="mailto:jeremy@ciroap.org" target="_blank">jeremy@ciroap.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 14/06/2013, at 8:09 PM, Marianne Franklin <<a href="mailto:m.i.franklin@gold.ac.uk" target="_blank">m.i.franklin@gold.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It is a fundamental principle of equality surely online too? Openness and transparency are what we are fighting for, no?</span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I think so, but I'm trying to be a neutral facilitator here, and this an issue on which there are equally strong opinions on both sides, manifested by repeated (off-list, uncuriously) requests for a closed list. I'm for radical transparency personally, but it seems to be quite an alien concept to some segments of civil society (I've found this in working on trade issues, for example), and so offering the choice seems to be the best middle path to take. The default though, I certainly agree, should be to use the open lists.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Dr Jeremy Malcolm<br>Senior Policy Officer<br>Consumers International | the global campaigning voice for consumers</span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><br>Office for Asia-Pacific and the Middle East<br>Lot 5-1 Wisma WIM, 7 Jalan Abang Haji Openg, TTDI, 60000 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia<br>Tel: <a href="tel:%2B60%203%207726%201599" target="_blank">+60 3 7726 1599</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>WCRD 2013 – Consumer Justice Now! | Consumer Protection Map: <a href="https://wcrd2013.crowdmap.com/main" target="_blank">https://wcrd2013.crowdmap.com/main</a> | #wcrd2013<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>@Consumers_Int | <a href="http://www.consumersinternational.org/" target="_blank">www.consumersinternational.org</a> | <a href="http://www.facebook.com/consumersinternational" target="_blank">www.facebook.com/consumersinternational</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#999999'>Read our <a href="http://www.consumersinternational.org/email-confidentiality" target="_blank">email confidentiality notice</a>. Don't print this email unless necessary.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><br>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Carolina Rossini</b> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#3333FF'><a href="http://carolinarossini.net/" target="_blank">http://carolinarossini.net/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#666666'>+ 1 6176979389</span><br><span style='color:#666666'>*</span><a href="mailto:carolina.rossini@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:#666666'>carolina.rossini@gmail.com</span></a><span style='color:#666666'>*</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#666666'>skype: carolrossini</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#666666'>@carolinarossini</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>