<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hi Parminder, <br><br></div>Just to clear thing out, maybe you've missed this explanation that Deborah sent right after Anriette's email that you've quoted: <br><br>"Just a quick note to explain that the statement will be made on
behalf of APC because as an ECOSOC accredited org they are able to make
interventions and have graciously facilitated and contributed this
intervention. We have asked the speaker from HRW to take a look at the
the Best Bits link for the current list of signatories before reading it
at the afternoon session 1500 Geneva time, so she will be able to say
that she is making the statement on behalf of xx orgs from around the
world."<br><br></div>Then the updates, again from Deborah:<br><br>"The intervention was made this
afternoon at the HRC by APC and Reporters Without Borders (through HRW,
who was physically present in Geneva and generously helped out). I've
attached the shorter version that Therese from HRW actually delivered,
but please note in any communication that officially it was APC and RSF
that delivered the statement, not HRW. In the actual intervention,
Therese noted that the statement was on behalf of over 30 organizations
from all over the world, which was the count at the time of the
intervention." <br><br></div>I hope it helps. <br><br>best<br><br></div>joana<br><div><div><div><div><a href="http://bestbits.net/prism-nsa/" style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif" target="_blank"></a><div style="width:16px;height:16px;display:inline-block">
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<div><br></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:25 AM, parminder <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" target="_blank">parminder@itforchange.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Thanks for all the inputs. We have tried to include them all.
Here is the final text that will be uploaded to the HRC site and read
later today by Human Rights Watch on APC's behalf.</pre>
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Did not understand. Why on APC's behalf and not all those who worked
to develop it and signed it... I think I may be missing something
here. parminder<br>
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signatories as available now. Deborah will coordinate adding further names.
Best
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+1 from me.
MF
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On Monday 10 June 2013 02:56 PM, joy wrote:
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<pre>Hi - sharing some ideas that came also from discussion with Frank La
Rue's office and my suggested edits relate to the last para, the
recommended action to the Council: - I think we have a 3 pronged
approach to the call to action which is looking really good:
"We call on the Human Rights Council to act swiftly to prevent
creation of a global Internet based surveillance system by:
1) convening a special session to examine this case 2) supporting the
recommendation of Mr La Rue that the Human Rights Committee develop of
a new General Comment 16 on the right to privacy in light of
technological advancements and 3) requesting the High Commissioner to
prepare a report a) formally asking states to report on practices and
laws in place on survellilance and what corrective steps will they
willl take to meet human rights standards and b) examing the
implications of this case in in the light of the Human Rights Council
endorsed United Nations Guiding Principles on Business and Human
Rights, the "Protect, Respect and Remedy" Framework of A/HRC/RES/17/4.
Joy
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And thanks for the comprehension.
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<pre>would have liked to propose but due to the urgency of the issue i
would not do it now. Certainly the names of the companies involved
should have not been mentioned in the statement. Can we still do it?.)
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<pre>not Philippe Dam with Human Rights Watch may be a useful person to
talk to on this. i am cc-ing the email to him. He is attending the HR
Council meeting. Wonder if Joy is still there?
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Here's a quick update on the draft statement to the Human
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<pre>Rights Council regarding the impact of state surveillance on human
rights. The draft statement is below. We are currently reaching out to
Geneva based orgs who might be able to assist with delivery (thanks
Joy) and if not we can still publish it and do outreach.
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<pre>this thread in the next 3.5 hours? Then I will post it to the Best
Bits site to facilitate endorsement. In the meantime, if organizations
or individuals feel comfortable endorsing this draft, please reply on
this thread and we can add your name through the Best Bits system
later. As a reminder, this statement would be part of a debate at the
HRC that will take place at 15:00 Geneva time on Monday. Though not
ideal, this was the best time frame we could come up with for
facilitating input and sign on.
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<pre>and apologies for any shortcoming in the process because of time
constraints. Looking forward to more input and to working together to
get this finalized.
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Deborah
Agenda item 8:/General Debate/
Civil Society Statement to the Human Rights Council on the
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<pre>impact of State Surveillance on Human Rights addressing the PRISM/NSA case
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<pre>organizations from ___ countries, across ___ regions. This is a truly
global issue. We express strong concern over recent revelations of
surveillance of internet and telephone communications of US and non-US
nationals by the government of the United States of America. Equally
concerning is the provision of access to the results of that
surveillance to other governments such as the United Kingdom, and the
indication of the possible complicity of some of the globally dominant
US-based Internet companies whose services and reach are universally
distributed. These revelations raise the appearance of, and may even
suggest a blatant and systematic disregard for human rights as
articulated in Articles 17 and 19 of the International Covenant on
Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR), as well as Articles 12 and 19 of
the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
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<pre>which "Affirms that the same rights that people have offline must also
be protected online, in particular freedom of expression ..."[1] But
during this session the Special Rapporteur on Freedom of Expression
reported (A/HRC/23/40) worrying new trends in state surveillance of
communications with serious implications for the exercise of the human
rights to privacy and to freedom of opinion and expression. The
Special Rapporteur notes that inadequate and non-existent legal
frameworks "create a fertile ground for arbitrary and unlawful
infringements of the right to privacy in communications and,
consequently, also threaten the protection of the right to freedom of
opinion and expression". [2]
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is important. But civil society is extremely concerned that
governments supporting this statement are not addressing, and in fact
are ignoring, the recent serious revelations about mass surveillance
in the PRISM/NSA case. Although the personal information disclosed
under this programme is subject to the oversight of the US Foreign
Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC), that court sits in secret and
has no responsiblity for ensuring the human rights of those not
subject to US jurisdiction.
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and communicating the majority of the world's digital communications
is a backward step for human rights in the digital age. As La Rue
notes: "This raises serious concern with regard to the
extra-territorial commission of human rights violations and the
inability of individuals to know that they might be subject to foreign
surveillance, challenge decisions with respect to foreign
surveillance, or seek remedies." An immediate response is needed.
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immediately suspend this practice. Such action would uphold the Human
Rights Council endorsed United Nations Guiding Principles on Business
and Human Rights, the "Protect, Respect and Remedy" Framework of
A/HRC/RES/17/4.
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<pre>public. As Mr La Rue notes, laws "must not be used to target
whistleblowers ... nor should they hamper the legitimate oversight of
government action by citizens." We urge States protect those
whistleblowers involved in this case and to support their efforts to
combat violations of the fundamental human rights of all global
citizens. Whistleblowers play a critical role in promoting
transparency and upholding the human rights of all.
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<pre>specifically relevant to the Internet and one foreshadowed in the
Council's 2012 Expert Panel on Freedom of Expression and the Internet.
We therefore call on the Human Rights Council to act swiftly to
prevent creation of a global Internet based surveillance system. One
action the Council could take would be to follow up the Expert Panel
by convening a multistakeholder process to support the recommendation
of Mr. La Rue that the Human Rights Committee develop a new General
Comment on the right to privacy in light of technological advancements
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On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Gene Kimmelman
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<pre>overarching issue to raise concerning the framing of whatever groups
decide to put out: I believe it would be most powerful to challenge
both the US Gvt. and companies to explain how what they have done
does NOT constitute human rights violations, with specific details
to explain their stance. I believe all the language people are
suggesting can fit within this framing, and put the burden on others
to show how our concerns are not justified. This has more to do with
long-term diplomatic impact that anything else; the debate will
continue and many of the facts will probably never be made public --
but I think it is a strategic advantage for civil society to always be
calling for transparency and basing its conclusions on both what facts
are presented, and what concerns are not addressed by the presentation
of convincing arguments/facts.
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ends this week. Jeremy, have you had the chance to work on an outline?
If not, I'm happy to help start the drafting process. My main concern
is whether we have enough time for significant participation from a
diversity of groups so that this is coming from a global coalition.
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hearing? Those who are working on the pad can pre-endorse it there.
If 5 hours ahead is not enough, then I'll need to instruct someone
else on how to do it earlier, because I'll be in the air until then.
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