<div dir="ltr">Hi Kevin,<div><br></div><div style>I guess that should be about Human rights of everybody, and highlighting the impact on americans and non americans, reminding USG engagements to all treaties and conventions it ratified (and also pushing for signing CoE 108 convention for example) . we dont need to make distinction between users based on nationality. we need to react to all issues as coalition , we have yet another example of national government decision going beyond its borders.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>this coalition is aiming to be space for civil society to act globally and coordinate actions, we have such action this time and hopefully we won't be dragged in ideological fights.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Rafik </div></div></div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/6/9 Kevin Bankston <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kbankston@cdt.org" target="_blank">kbankston@cdt.org</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto"><div>I think that a statement focused on the human rights of non-Americans, spinning off of the Larue report, would be an *incredibly* helpful addition to the dialogue right now--especially if Frank were directly involved.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Also and not for nothing--I want to apologize both for my government's actions, and for a local US civil society coalition--self included--that could have done a better job considering the rights and perspectives of non-US stakeholders when framing our response to this news. Sincerely. We will do better. We've just been scrambling in the face of an avalanche of awful revelations.<br>
<br>Sent via mobile</div><div><br>On Jun 8, 2013, at 7:59 PM, Jeremy Malcolm <<a href="mailto:jeremy@ciroap.org" target="_blank">jeremy@ciroap.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><div>On 09/06/2013, at 4:29 AM, "michael gurstein" <<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com" target="_blank">gurstein@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
<br><blockquote type="cite">What comes through loud and clear on this and the associated comments,<br>denials and disclaimers from all and sundry is that this is a global issue<br>requiring a global response and particularly initiatives from a global civil<br>
society. <br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Do you think that this is something that we should attempt through Best Bits? As you quite rightly pointed in response to the joint letter posted to the webwewant list (and as I had also said in an earlier reply), the joint letter from EFF, Free Press and ACLU is not something that international organisations could support, yet international Internet users are are even more affected by the PRISM scandal than US Internet users are.</div>
<div><br></div><div>In favour of such a response, one of the purposes of Best Bits was to enable a broader perspective to attend the publication of statements on human rights and the Internet, rather than a small cadre of Internet freedom groups drafting and then pushing them out to the rest of the world. Against, is the concern is that "yet another statement" isn't going to have much cumulative effect at this point, because everybody and their dog has something to say about PRISM right now.</div>
<div><br></div><div>If we do want to contribute something, then maybe our special competence is in our knowledge of relevant international processes. So we could perhaps write our statement as a letter to the United Nations Human Rights Council (particularly in the light of Frank La Rue's latest report, <a href="http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/HRBodies/HRCouncil/RegularSession/Session23/A.HRC.23.40_EN.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/HRBodies/HRCouncil/RegularSession/Session23/A.HRC.23.40_EN.pdf</a>). Or are there other international processes that people think would be an appropriate target for such an intervention?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Agreed that this is very important, but I just want to make sure we don't issue a statement into the ether that will have zero impact.</div></div><div class="im"><br><div>
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