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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Saturday 13 April 2013 09:05 AM,
        Ian Peter wrote:<br>
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            <div>yes, the concept of no government involvement is
              nonsense. The Public Knowledge response (or draft
              response, it may have changed) included the following. Not
              that I entirely agree with it, but it makes some relevant
              points about the language.</div>
            <div> </div>
            <div>“ we fear that the broad language of the proposed bill
              may</div>
            <div>intrude on areas of consumer protection, competition
              policy, law enforcement and</div>
            <div>cybersecurity long considered appropriate for national
              policy formulated by governments</div>
            <div>with input from civil society, business and the
              technical community. For example, the</div>
            <div>United States has by law protected the privacy of
              children online through Child Online</div>
            <div>Privacy Protection Act (COPPA) for nearly 15 years.
              Although we opposed the ITU</div>
            <div>resolution to require countries to limit spam, the
              United States protects its citizens from</div>
            <div>spam through the CAN-SPAM Act. The Federal Trade
              Commission (FTC), the Federal</div>
            <div>Communications Commission (FCC), the Department of
              Justice and numerous other</div>
            <div>federal and state agencies have long played a critical
              role in protecting consumers and</div>
            <div>promoting competition and their existing statutes.</div>
            <div>We fear that if this bill becomes law, rather than
              being understood as simply a resolution</div>
            <div>directed specifically against the efforts to expand the
              jurisdiction of the ITU, these</div>
            <div>important and long-standing government policies will be
              undermined. Our opposition to</div>
            <div>ceding authority to the ITU to decide how to balance
              consumer protection and free</div>
            <div>expression is not because we see no role for government
              in protecting consumers or</div>
            <div>promoting competition. Rather, we believe those matters
              are best decided here at home,</div>
            <div>by a Congress accountable to the people and enforced by
              a government constrained by</div>
            <div>the Constitution. Similarly, many who oppose addressing
              cybersecurity or law</div>
            <div>enforcement issues at the ITU regard it as entirely
              appropriate for Congress or other</div>
            <div>federal agencies to address these concerns, subject to
              the Constitutional limitations of due</div>
            <div>process and free expression.”</div>
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      <br>
      Public Knowledge's draft letter is most instructive of what has
      really been happening in the global IG space. How the term
      'government control' has been deviously used to further entrench
      hegemonies, and a neoliberal paradigm. A paradigm of complete non
      regulation of the emerging 'communication realm, put forward more
      appealingly as 'an Internet free from governmental control', was
      the name of the game at WCIT. Here the front of 'protecting
      Internet freedoms' was employed to cover the real geo-economic
      intentions of using the Internet as the new pillar of global
      domination by US and its allies. We raised this issue through an
      oped in a top Indian daily ' <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/hyping-one-threat-to-hide-another/article4140922.ece">Hyping

        one threat to hide another</a>'. <br>
      <br>
      The chickens have now come home to roost, as we had predicted in
      the mentioned op-ed. Excuse me to quote it, I simply cant resist
      the temptation . <br>
      <br>
      <blockquote>"What is happening at the ITU today, in good measure,
        is this game of freeing our communication realm from all public
        interest regulation. As mentioned, it is about a new paradigm of
        ‘complete non-regulation.’ And once the victory is achieved at
        the ITU, whereby the Internet and other IP networks, which would
        soon be the basis of all communication infrastructure, are
        considered out of any kind of regulatory oversight, the game
        will then be replayed at the national level, citing ‘global
        norms.’ "<br>
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      US civil society was most active seeking that Internet - and with
      it, really, all future communication systems - should 'completely'
      stay out of ITU's realm. (Just opposing China/ Russia proposals of
      'national Internet segement' and national control of CIRs etc is a
      completely different matter. What was opposed was even references
      to Internet related universal service obligations, net neutrlaity
      and such things.) What was even more problematic was that civil
      society from most developing countries also joined the (apparently
      well- resourced) chorus. And now when this game of de-regulation
      of communicative realm plays out in our respective national
      domains, do give a thought to whether the manner in which the WCIT
      game got played was the right thing to do for progressive
      causes... There is yet opportunity to re-look at what is being
      done to our futures, especially those of the marginalised people, 
      in the name of 'Internet freedoms' and multistakeholderism. <br>
      <br>
      parminder <br>
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            <div>Certainly a number of US groups have opposed the
              language for this and similar reasons.</div>
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                  <div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
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                      href="mailto:jeremy@ciroap.org">Jeremy Malcolm</a>
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                  <div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 13, 2013 12:56 PM</div>
                  <div><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      title="governance@lists.igcaucus.org"
                      href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>
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                  <div><b>Subject:</b> [governance] US House Bill to
                    Affirm the Policy of the United States Regarding
                    Internet Governance</div>
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              <div>It doesn't seem to have been mentioned here yet (or
                maybe only in passing) that there is a bill on Internet
                governance being debated in the Energy & Commerce
                Committee of the US House of Representatives at the
                moment.  There will doubtless be stampede of uncritical
                support for it from politicians of all sides (there is
                no hidden intellectual property "gotcha"), but
                unfortunately its premises are fundamentally flawed.</div>
              <div> </div>
              <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://energycommerce.house.gov/markup/markup-bill-affirm-policy-united-states-regarding-internet-governance">http://energycommerce.house.gov/markup/markup-bill-affirm-policy-united-states-regarding-internet-governance</a></div>
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              <div>It only has two sections: one on "Findings" and one
                on "Policy regarding Internet governance", which flows
                from the findings.  The latter simply states:</div>
              <div> </div>
              <div>"It is the policy of the United States to promote a
                global Internet free from government control and to
                preserve and advance the successful multistakeholder
                model that governs the Internet."</div>
              <div> </div>
              <div>So this is obviously nonsense; it is not US policy to
                promote a global Internet free from government control,
                only free from the control of other governments besides
                itself.  And note that US policy is only to "preserve
                and advance" not to "enhance" the multistakeholder
                model, which continues the fiction that the
                multistakeholder institutions that we have now are
                adequate both in their inclusiveness and in the breadth
                of Internet governance topics that they cover.</div>
              <div> </div>
              <div>Of course, you can argue for more beneficial
                interpretations by defining "control" and
                "multistakeholder model" expansively, but even so this
                bill is just going to entrench the standoff between the
                US and other countries, which is not going to be helpful
                in reaching compromise on the evolution of Internet
                governance arrangements this year...</div>
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