<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Dear All,<div><br></div><div>As I've mentioned to a few people privately, you should look a the World We Want process - <a href="http://www.worldwewant2015.org/">here</a>, and the civil-society-specific part <a href="http://www.beyond2015.org/">here</a> - which is based around post-2015 MDG followup. There's an obvious opportunity to get the Internet community more engaged in that process as there is vice-versa.</div><div><br></div><div>Right now IG and post-2015 MDGs are really disconnected. Given the obvious opportunity to leverage ICTs to deliver real value in that process, this seems like something civil society should care very much about changing.</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On 15 Mar 2013, at 10:01, parminder <<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">parminder@itforchange.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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<font face="Verdana">I know I am getting increasingly and perhaps
unsustainable ambitious, but maybe we can hold an 'Internet social
forum' and then proceed to more focussed strategising in the
bestbits meeting. <br>
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I think a core/ real civil society in the Internet area needs to
be recovered from the unclear ambiguous gooey mass that what goes
for the IG civil society has increasingly become....<br>
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Perhaps just being too radical (and a bit modernist in a highly
post modernist Internet world), which is not a bad thing to do
once in a while :)<br>
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parminder <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Friday 15 March 2013 02:17 PM,
parminder wrote:<br>
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On Friday 15 March 2013 02:02 PM, Norbert Bollow wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">Michael Gurstein
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com"><gurstein@gmail.com></a> wrote:
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Agreed.
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Furthermore, it is important to get civil society actors from
outside
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the Internet governance community more involved. Maybe, in
addition to
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addressing these matters at the Best Bits meeting in Bali, we
need to
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think about organizing a pre-event in the spirit of Best Bits
(but
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maybe with a different name corresponding to a less
technology-centered
<br>
focus) to an international event where the chances are optimal
for
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effectively introducing the family of issues that you're
thinking about
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into the mainstream of discourse of international policy
shaping.
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Something in the spirit of the 'world we want' and then proceed to
discussing the 'web we want' for the 'world we want'.
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We can invite participation from non IG global and sub global
civil society bodies, most of whom do now have an interest to see
how IG connects to their work (and most now believe that it does
in some basic though largely unclear ways) . Maybe many of them
want to come and join in, but there are no good enough and
appropriate docking points made available to them, in a manner
that look at things in a manner that they traditionally look at.
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Such actors coming for such an event where they will get
introduced to the world of IG can then also lead to a much needed
more diverse participation in the IGF...
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.. parminder
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<blockquote type="cite">I think that we would be very remiss not
to spend some time reviewing
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these "IS" issues and strategizing on how to move these
forward
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alongside and particularly as part of the increasingly visible
and
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significant IG processes -- including within the IGF but also
toward
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WSIS +10 and beyond.
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+1
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Greetings,
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Norbert
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