<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Parminder and all - <div><br></div><div>Free Press, the World Wide Web Foundation and a few other groups (including Andrew and Global Partners) have been discussing this "Web We Want" idea for the last couple of months, and there's been a lot of enthusiasm for it. We absolutely see it as complementary to the good work being undertaken by the groups on these and other lists, as well as the Best Bits effort to forge consensus around policy objectives. <div><br></div><div>Right now, the vision of the Web We Want is to generate popular support for the many policy objectives we are all working toward, to link these objectives to a broader vision for human rights, and to direct resources to local fights in order to support the broad agenda of achieving an open Internet for all, without censorship or surveillance. </div><div><br></div><div>We are very much in the beginning stages of piecing this project together, and we would like to loop in anyone and everyone who's interested. Please let me know off-list if you'd like to set up a time to discuss this in more depth. </div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Josh Levy </div><div><br></div><div><div><div><div><div>On Mar 1, 2013, at 4:12 PM, parminder <<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">parminder@itforchange.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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    <font face="Verdana">Andrew/ All<br>
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      The meeting seems to have done really useful work. Very encouraging.<br>
      <br>
      Sorry, I missed it because my colleague was speaking at the
      closing ceremony and I had to be there for the sake organisational
      solidarity. <br>
      <br>
      Can someone point to where more stuff about the 'web we want'
      initiative can be found. It is an excellent way to go for
      developing a positive agenda. Maybe, the 'Internet we want' would
      a better name for us, and also we cna make it an original BestBits
      initiative. <br>
      <br>
      About Jeremy's paper, as I wrote to him, I very much agree with
      his framing of the problem. However I am unable to agree with the
      solution - a consensual democracy model. Becuase such a model
      gives big business a veto over every policy proposal, and if that
      happens things can only go from bad to worse. Nothing will ever
      change in a progressive direction. For instance, we can never get
      the Internet/ web we want. And if anyone disagrees with this, I am
      happy to do a scenario building exercise here.<br>
      <br>
      As for strengthening the IGF - as what I would like to call as an
      institution of (institutionalised) participatory democracy - I
      completely agree. But as in participatory democracy the
      relationship of the participatory sphere with policy making and
      executive spheres has to made clear. A self selection based
      participatory space cannot replace representation based democratic
      decision making process. But, yes, there is a much to discussed
      and innovated within larger principles of democracy which cannot
      be violated. <br>
      <br>
      parminder <br>
      <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Friday 01 March 2013 05:19 PM,
      Andrew Puddephatt wrote:<br>
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      <div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#254061">At the UNESCO
            WSIS plus 10 meeting we had an informal gathering of those
            Best Bits (BB) participants who were present at the event –
            about 25 people in total.  We took the opportunity to review
            the usefulness of the Best Bits process and arrived at the
            following consensus about the potential roles for BB:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0
          level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#254061"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
                "Times New Roman"">         </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="color:#254061">To convene a BB regular forum before
            major international events such as the ITU, IGF etc. to
            provide an opportunity to share information and develop
            co-ordinated CS positions on those events;</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
            Roman","serif";color:#254061"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0
          level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#254061"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
                "Times New Roman"">         </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="color:#254061">The emphasis of BB should be to
            convene to take action which means identifying, where
            possible, common CS positions and acting upon them as we did
            at the WCIT;  BB is therefore different to more discussion
            based forums  such as the IG caucus;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0
          level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#254061"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
                "Times New Roman"">         </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="color:#254061">This will require some degree of
            organisation. Though specific events can be organised by the
            relevant groups on the ground (APC offered to organise the
            pre</span><span style="color:#1F497D">-</span><span style="color:#254061">Bali IGF BB event) there are a number
            of tasks that need to be carried out i</span><span style="color:#1F497D">f</span><span style="color:#254061">
            the network to function.  These include - maintaining the
            website as an information source about activities;
            developing a wiki calendar of events that allows BB to share
            details of who’s going to what meetings; using the website
            to report back to the wider BB community on positions and
            actions taken, so strengthening our own accountability and
            transparency; maintaining the e-mail list and processing new
            people who want to join as well deregistering those who want
            to leave.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0
          level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#254061"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
                "Times New Roman"">         </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="color:#254061">People have offered to take on
            different tasks (Access, Global Voices, APC etc.). Global 
            Partners are already developing a calendar of events that
            could be the basis of a wiki on the website allowing people
            to signify events they are attending.   Jeremy Malcolm from
            CI has indicated that he is willing to maintain the web and
            mailing list; Deborah from Access has also offered to help –
            any other offers please let me know;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span style="color:#254061">5.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#254061">      </span><span style="color:#254061">At the BB official </span><span style="color:#1F497D">workshop</span><span style="color:#254061"> we discussed a paper from Jeremy
            Malcolm looking at issues of internet governance.  It
            analysed the deficiencies of the current internet governance
            model as well as suggesting a way forward. </span><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:#254061">The
            overall conclusions of the formal discussion were:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#254061;mso-list:l1 level1
            lfo2"><i>We highlighted our concerns that current internet
              governance mechanisms are deficient. For example, they are
              unable to successfully address inequalities in internet
              access, threats to data privacy and network neutrality. <o:p></o:p></i></li>
          <li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#254061;mso-list:l1 level1
            lfo2"><i>Participants acknowledged that governments do have
              a legitimate role to play in internet governance, for
              example in the areas outlined above. <o:p></o:p></i></li>
          <li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#254061;mso-list:l1 level1
            lfo2"><i>In this context, we felt that the best way forward
              is to develop and grow the IGF by, for example, enabling
              the IGF to issue soft law in the form of recommendations
              or declarations.<o:p></o:p></i></li>
          <li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#254061;mso-list:l1 level1
            lfo2"><i>Alongside enhancing the IGF it is essential that we
              address  current accountability and transparency
              deficiencies of the IGF. <o:p></o:p></i></li>
        </ul><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#254061">Clearly there
            are many issues here that need further discussion. To that
            end we suggest that Jeremy’s paper is circulated on the BB
            list and discussed with the goal of arriving at an agreed CS
            position at the Bali IGF BB event.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#254061"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#254061">In the informal
            meeting an new initiative called the  “Web we want” was
            mentioned, initiated at a meeting in the Berkman Center in
            the US, with the support of Tim Berners-Lee.  This
            initiative hopes to set out what kind of internet we would
            like to see being built over the next period of time.  
            There was some concern expressed at the proliferation of
            initiatives but in the end we suggested we incorporate it as
            one of the themes for discussion in the run up to Bali
            alongside the issue of governance.   So if BB participants
            are happy the meeting in Bali would have two purposes:  to
            agree a CSO position on governance and a CS position on the
            web we want.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#254061"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#254061">In the meantime
            a calendar of events will be set up on the BB website so
            that we can indicate who is attending forthcoming meetings
            of the ITU and CS</span><span style="color:#1F497D">T</span><span style="color:#254061">D</span><span style="color:#1F497D">
            etc.</span><span style="color:#254061"> so that we can
            consult online about strategy and  tactics as will as
            co-ordinate our advocacy while at the meetings.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7030A0;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">Andrew Puddephatt, Director</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7030A0;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">       <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7030A0;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">Global Partners & Associates<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US"> </span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">Direct: </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">+44 (0)20 7549 0336<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">Office</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">: +44 (0)20 7549 0350<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">Mobile</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">: +44 (0)771 339 9597<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">Email</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:niamh@global-partners.co.uk"><span style="color:gray;text-decoration:none">andrew@global-partners.co.uk</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">Address</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">: Development House, 56-64 Leonard St, London
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