<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Parminder and all - <div><br></div><div>Free Press, the World Wide Web Foundation and a few other groups (including Andrew and Global Partners) have been discussing this "Web We Want" idea for the last couple of months, and there's been a lot of enthusiasm for it. We absolutely see it as complementary to the good work being undertaken by the groups on these and other lists, as well as the Best Bits effort to forge consensus around policy objectives. <div><br></div><div>Right now, the vision of the Web We Want is to generate popular support for the many policy objectives we are all working toward, to link these objectives to a broader vision for human rights, and to direct resources to local fights in order to support the broad agenda of achieving an open Internet for all, without censorship or surveillance. </div><div><br></div><div>We are very much in the beginning stages of piecing this project together, and we would like to loop in anyone and everyone who's interested. Please let me know off-list if you'd like to set up a time to discuss this in more depth. </div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Josh Levy </div><div><br></div><div><div><div><div><div>On Mar 1, 2013, at 4:12 PM, parminder <<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">parminder@itforchange.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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<font face="Verdana">Andrew/ All<br>
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The meeting seems to have done really useful work. Very encouraging.<br>
<br>
Sorry, I missed it because my colleague was speaking at the
closing ceremony and I had to be there for the sake organisational
solidarity. <br>
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Can someone point to where more stuff about the 'web we want'
initiative can be found. It is an excellent way to go for
developing a positive agenda. Maybe, the 'Internet we want' would
a better name for us, and also we cna make it an original BestBits
initiative. <br>
<br>
About Jeremy's paper, as I wrote to him, I very much agree with
his framing of the problem. However I am unable to agree with the
solution - a consensual democracy model. Becuase such a model
gives big business a veto over every policy proposal, and if that
happens things can only go from bad to worse. Nothing will ever
change in a progressive direction. For instance, we can never get
the Internet/ web we want. And if anyone disagrees with this, I am
happy to do a scenario building exercise here.<br>
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As for strengthening the IGF - as what I would like to call as an
institution of (institutionalised) participatory democracy - I
completely agree. But as in participatory democracy the
relationship of the participatory sphere with policy making and
executive spheres has to made clear. A self selection based
participatory space cannot replace representation based democratic
decision making process. But, yes, there is a much to discussed
and innovated within larger principles of democracy which cannot
be violated. <br>
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parminder <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Friday 01 March 2013 05:19 PM,
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<div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#254061">At the UNESCO
WSIS plus 10 meeting we had an informal gathering of those
Best Bits (BB) participants who were present at the event –
about 25 people in total. We took the opportunity to review
the usefulness of the Best Bits process and arrived at the
following consensus about the potential roles for BB:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#254061"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="color:#254061">To convene a BB regular forum before
major international events such as the ITU, IGF etc. to
provide an opportunity to share information and develop
co-ordinated CS positions on those events;</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif";color:#254061"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#254061"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="color:#254061">The emphasis of BB should be to
convene to take action which means identifying, where
possible, common CS positions and acting upon them as we did
at the WCIT; BB is therefore different to more discussion
based forums such as the IG caucus;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#254061"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="color:#254061">This will require some degree of
organisation. Though specific events can be organised by the
relevant groups on the ground (APC offered to organise the
pre</span><span style="color:#1F497D">-</span><span style="color:#254061">Bali IGF BB event) there are a number
of tasks that need to be carried out i</span><span style="color:#1F497D">f</span><span style="color:#254061">
the network to function. These include - maintaining the
website as an information source about activities;
developing a wiki calendar of events that allows BB to share
details of who’s going to what meetings; using the website
to report back to the wider BB community on positions and
actions taken, so strengthening our own accountability and
transparency; maintaining the e-mail list and processing new
people who want to join as well deregistering those who want
to leave.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#254061"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="color:#254061">People have offered to take on
different tasks (Access, Global Voices, APC etc.). Global
Partners are already developing a calendar of events that
could be the basis of a wiki on the website allowing people
to signify events they are attending. Jeremy Malcolm from
CI has indicated that he is willing to maintain the web and
mailing list; Deborah from Access has also offered to help –
any other offers please let me know;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span style="color:#254061">5.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#254061"> </span><span style="color:#254061">At the BB official </span><span style="color:#1F497D">workshop</span><span style="color:#254061"> we discussed a paper from Jeremy
Malcolm looking at issues of internet governance. It
analysed the deficiencies of the current internet governance
model as well as suggesting a way forward. </span><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:#254061">The
overall conclusions of the formal discussion were:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0cm" type="circle">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#254061;mso-list:l1 level1
lfo2"><i>We highlighted our concerns that current internet
governance mechanisms are deficient. For example, they are
unable to successfully address inequalities in internet
access, threats to data privacy and network neutrality. <o:p></o:p></i></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#254061;mso-list:l1 level1
lfo2"><i>Participants acknowledged that governments do have
a legitimate role to play in internet governance, for
example in the areas outlined above. <o:p></o:p></i></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#254061;mso-list:l1 level1
lfo2"><i>In this context, we felt that the best way forward
is to develop and grow the IGF by, for example, enabling
the IGF to issue soft law in the form of recommendations
or declarations.<o:p></o:p></i></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#254061;mso-list:l1 level1
lfo2"><i>Alongside enhancing the IGF it is essential that we
address current accountability and transparency
deficiencies of the IGF. <o:p></o:p></i></li>
</ul><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#254061">Clearly there
are many issues here that need further discussion. To that
end we suggest that Jeremy’s paper is circulated on the BB
list and discussed with the goal of arriving at an agreed CS
position at the Bali IGF BB event.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#254061"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#254061">In the informal
meeting an new initiative called the “Web we want” was
mentioned, initiated at a meeting in the Berkman Center in
the US, with the support of Tim Berners-Lee. This
initiative hopes to set out what kind of internet we would
like to see being built over the next period of time.
There was some concern expressed at the proliferation of
initiatives but in the end we suggested we incorporate it as
one of the themes for discussion in the run up to Bali
alongside the issue of governance. So if BB participants
are happy the meeting in Bali would have two purposes: to
agree a CSO position on governance and a CS position on the
web we want.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#254061"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#254061">In the meantime
a calendar of events will be set up on the BB website so
that we can indicate who is attending forthcoming meetings
of the ITU and CS</span><span style="color:#1F497D">T</span><span style="color:#254061">D</span><span style="color:#1F497D">
etc.</span><span style="color:#254061"> so that we can
consult online about strategy and tactics as will as
co-ordinate our advocacy while at the meetings.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7030A0;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">Andrew Puddephatt, Director</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7030A0;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7030A0;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">Global Partners & Associates<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US"> </span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">Direct: </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">+44 (0)20 7549 0336<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">Office</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">: +44 (0)20 7549 0350<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">Mobile</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">: +44 (0)771 339 9597<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">Email</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:niamh@global-partners.co.uk"><span style="color:gray;text-decoration:none">andrew@global-partners.co.uk</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">Address</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">: Development House, 56-64 Leonard St, London
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