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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I've taken my comments below and expanded them as a blogpost (with links etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2013/02/11/civil-society-and-the-emerging-internet-cold-war-non-alignment-and-the-public-interest/">http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2013/02/11/civil-society-and-the-emerging-internet-cold-war-non-alignment-and-the-public-interest/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://tinyurl.com/bllvbry">http://tinyurl.com/bllvbry</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Comments/critiques etc. welcomed…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>M<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> michael gurstein [mailto:gurstein@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 11, 2013 8:43 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'governance@lists.igcaucus.org'; 'Philipp Mirtl'; 'Louis Pouzin (well)'<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [governance] CNAS Commentary: "The Internet Yalta"<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>To carry forward this Cold War analogy I'm wondering whether the appropriate position for civil society should rather be one of "non-alignment"; that is, a position which recognizes a degree of validity in both sets of arguments but chooses to put these in the broader and more univeral context of the development of the Internet as a global public good, operating in support of the global public interest where there is a universal acceptance of free expression, human rights, and a fair distribution of economic benefits among other rights and principles.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>M<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org">governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a> [<a href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org">mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Philipp Mirtl<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 11, 2013 7:41 AM<br><b>To:</b> Louis Pouzin (well); <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> AW: [governance] CNAS Commentary: "The Internet Yalta"<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear Louis,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks for your comment. Please note that the commentary was written by Alexander Klimburg, who I am working together with – not myself. Alex is not member to this list which is why he asked me to forward you the following:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>“Depends what you mean by “creeping cyberwar”. If you mean the often-noted “militarisation of cyberspace” that is only one trend – and in some cases it is simply really part of “de-spooking of cyberwar” (i.e. making it more, rather than less, visible). The vast majority cyberconflict is invisible to those without the necessary technical or governmental insight.“<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>For more info, I also send you two additional links on that issue:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>          </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Alexander Klimburg (2011): “Mobilising Cyber Power”, Survival, 53:1, 41-60 (via: <a href="http://web.clas.ufl.edu/users/zselden/coursereading2011/Klimcyber.pdf">http://web.clas.ufl.edu/users/zselden/coursereading2011/Klimcyber.pdf</a>)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>          </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Alexander Klimburg (Ed.) (2012), <i>National Cyber Security Framework Manual</i>, NATO CCD COE Publication (via: <a href="http://www.ccdcoe.org/369.html">http://www.ccdcoe.org/369.html</a>)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Warm regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Philipp<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE-AT style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE-AT style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:pouzin@gmail.com">pouzin@gmail.com</a> [<a href="mailto:pouzin@gmail.com">mailto:pouzin@gmail.com</a>] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Louis Pouzin (well)<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 11. Februar 2013 16:21<br><b>An:</b> <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>; Philipp Mirtl<br><b>Betreff:</b> [governance] CNAS Commentary: "The Internet Yalta"<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE-AT><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=DE-AT>Hi Philipp,<br><br>Congrats for your very perceptive analysis. The fragmentation trend is indeed on the ground already. Do you have any comments on the creeping cyberwar ?<br><br>Best, Louis<br>- - -<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE-AT>On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Philipp Mirtl <<a href="mailto:Philipp.Mirtl@oiip.ac.at" target="_blank">Philipp.Mirtl@oiip.ac.at</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#1F497D'>Dear list members,</span><span lang=DE-AT><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=DE-AT><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#1F497D'>For those who are interested, I forward you the link to a recently published <b>commentary on WCIT-12</b>: <a href="http://www.cnas.org/theinternetyalta" target="_blank">http://www.cnas.org/theinternetyalta</a>.</span><span lang=DE-AT><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=DE-AT><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#1F49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