<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body>I prefer Bill's first formulation to promote a very concrete discussion if CS needs. However the conversation could easily lead to some fundamental rethinking of institutional roles that best serve CS goals.<br>William Drake <william.drake@uzh.ch> wrote:<br>Hi<div><br></div><div>The process UNESCO is following is rather different from ITU's practice with its annual May WSIS Forums. The good news there is that Janis and Co. should be fairly open to any formulation that doesn't cause problems for them. So just as a starting point: are we wedded to the placemarker framing, "A public interest internet: what can WSIS plus 10 deliver? A view from civil society" and should try to evolve something that maps with the current text, "<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; ">The meeting will examine a range of views as to how WSIS plus 10 can tackle the Internet governance issues such as affordable and equitable access and net neutrality without compromising the development of a public interest internet"? If so that takes us down one path. </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; ">Or would people be open to a more fundamental reimagination of the thing? </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; ">Our Baku meeting was organized around two pillars, WCIT and principles. Wolfgang has proposed a principles session, but there's nothing directly related to the other bit that brought us together. It obviously wouldn't help UNESCO for us to propose something sensitive like why WCIT and/or the ITU imploded, but we could make a constructive contribution by taking stock of where the global dialogue and policy processes relating to IG and its contact points with telecom are today, post-WCIT, bridging to the WTPF's agenda in May (public participation and transparency there still unclear, BTW). This would be very timely and attract more attention than a lot of the more obviously Action Line-oriented session. Moreover, it would help those of us who will be involved in the IGF consultation and MAG meeting to follow, in that anything that frames clear and pressing questions could be drawn upon in pressing for a new and more vigorous IGF agenda (at long last, there seems to be a growing recognition of the need in the MAG). So in short, CS could play an important role here in fostering some much needed dialogue on "hot button" items that link together what's just happened and what's coming next…</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">Best,</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">Bill</span></div><div><div>
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<br><div><div>On Jan 7, 2013, at 11:35 AM, Andrew Puddephatt wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="white" lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(37, 64, 97); "><span style="color: windowtext; ">Hi everyone!<o:p></o:p></span></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(37, 64, 97); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(37, 64, 97); "><span style="color: windowtext; ">UNESCO have provisionally allocated us a session at the WSIS plus 10 meeting in Paris in late February. At the moment I’ve kept it vague but I need to nail it down in the next few days. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(37, 64, 97); "><span style="color: windowtext; ">UNESCO is in the process of merging sessions (from current 54, they are looking to have 50 max – the list is attached).</span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(37, 64, 97); "><span style="color: windowtext; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(37, 64, 97); "><span style="color: windowtext; ">Ours is the only session that doesn't have a 'theme' - we should think about how it fits with the proposed sub-themes as UNESCO will be grouping the meetings.</span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(37, 64, 97); "><span style="color: windowtext; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(37, 64, 97); "><span style="color: windowtext; ">There are two similar proposed sessions which refer to the 'Taking stock' meeting from Baku (proposal 4 by CIS; proposal 13 by ICC BASIS) - see overview of proposals in attachment. The ones with same/similar topics and participants might be approached by UNESCO in an effort to merge them. They haven't mentioned our session explicitly. If you have any views on a merger or specific focus let me know.<o:p></o:p></span></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(37, 64, 97); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(37, 64, 97); "><span style="color: windowtext; ">As this is UNESCO and they are broke, there is absolutely no travel support offered for anyone. I’ll have a go this week at seeing if there is interest in sponsoring any participation but can’t guarantee funding at this stage – I’ll do my best!<o:p></o:p></span></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(37, 64, 97); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(37, 64, 97); "><span style="color: windowtext; ">Could you let me know if:<o:p></o:p></span></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(37, 64, 97); "><span style="color: windowtext; ">You are definitely planning to attend and have financial support<o:p></o:p></span></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(37, 64, 97); "><span style="color: windowtext; ">Would like to attend but need financial support.</span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(37, 64, 97); "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(37, 64, 97); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(37, 64, 97); "><span style="color: windowtext; ">General:<o:p></o:p></span></span></div><ol start="1" type="1" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; "><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: rgb(79, 129, 189); "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(37, 64, 97); "><span style="color: windowtext; ">Registration is now open – all panellists and participants should register as soon as possible. If you’d like to come but need support it might be worth registering now anyway.<o:p></o:p></span></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: rgb(79, 129, 189); "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(37, 64, 97); "><span style="color: windowtext; ">For assistance with visas – send email to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:m.liouliou@unesco.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: rgb(37, 64, 97); ">m.liouliou@unesco.org</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></span></li></ol><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(37, 64, 97); "><span style="color: windowtext; ">If you could get back to me this week that would be helpful..<o:p></o:p></span></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; 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font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: windowtext; ">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: windowtext; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:bestbits-request@lists.igcaucus.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">bestbits-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:bestbits-request@lists.igcaucus.org]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>parminder<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>26 December 2012 07:19<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.igcaucus.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">bestbits@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [bestbits] [governance] ISOC/USG WCIT Post Mortem<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; ">On Wednesday 26 December 2012 09:41 AM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><snip><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; ">But there are only so many resources that Best Bits members will want to continue to pour into telecommunications work, or into a negative agenda at the ITU just devoted to delineating the line between Internet and telecoms.<o:p></o:p></div></div></blockquote><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><br>Unfortunately, behind delineating or blurring that line lies a sordid tale --- of huge implication to the governance of our communication realm<br><br>see for instance<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bruce-kushnick/internet-freedom-att_b_1869358.html" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">'Internet Freedom'? AT&T's Verbal Jujitsu to Close Down Telecommunications in America'</a>. and<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br><a href="http://www.publicknowledge.org/blog/shutting-down-phone-system-gets-real-implicat" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">Shutting Down The Phone System Gets Real: The Implications of AT&T Upgrading To An All IP Network</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br><br> WCIT outcomes, whatever they may actually be or not, will now be touted as having decisively sealed the issue that Internet is not to be governed/ regulated by traditional telecom regulators in any way whatsoever (not even at the physical/ infrastructure level).... Such global norms are even more important in developing countries, which are still to see the net neutrality struggle begin... It may have been snuffed out even before in could begin. If telecom regulators dont enforce net neutrality, I dont see how it can be enforced at all.<br><br>Wishing a great 2013 to all!<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>parminder<br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">-- <o:p></o:p></span></div><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Dr Jeremy Malcolm<br>Senior Policy Officer<br>Consumers International | the global campaigning voice for consumers</span></b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; "><br>Office for Asia-Pacific and the Middle East<br>Lot 5-1 Wisma WIM, 7 Jalan Abang Haji Openg, TTDI, 60000 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia<br>Tel: +60 3 7726 1599<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Your rights, our mission – download CI's Strategy 2015:</span></b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; "> <a href="http://consint.info/RightsMission" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://consint.info/RightsMission</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">@Consumers_Int | <a href="http://www.consumersinternational.org/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">www.consumersinternational.org</a> | <a href="http://www.facebook.com/consumersinternational" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">www.facebook.com/consumersinternational</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(153, 153, 153); ">Read our <a href="http://www.consumersinternational.org/email-confidentiality" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">email confidentiality notice</a>. 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