I just did the IGC survey, and it brought into sharp focus the need for this point made by Bill: Sala--I would LOVE to see this addressed by the IGC as a whole. <br><br><span style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;border-collapse:separate;text-transform:none;font-size:medium;white-space:normal;font-family:Arial;word-spacing:0px"><span style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;border-collapse:separate;text-transform:none;font-size:medium;white-space:normal;font-family:Arial;word-spacing:0px"><span style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;border-collapse:separate;text-transform:none;font-size:medium;white-space:normal;font-family:Arial;word-spacing:0px"><span style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;border-collapse:separate;text-transform:none;font-size:medium;white-space:normal;font-family:Arial;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">
Bill said:<br>BTW,
perhaps in a separate thread, we might want to discuss what's supposed
to be done with these statements. How exactly do we see "principles for
the IGF" and a "statement to WCIT" feeding into the respective
processes, etc…<br><br>I like Bill's re-ordering of the issues, so that drafting follows directly upon discussion.<br><br>Even more, I would like the point quoted above to be given high priority. Why discuss, debate and draft, if the statements are not effectively used?<br>
<br>Cheers. gp<br></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><br></div></span></span></span></span><br clear="all">Ginger (Virginia) Paque<br><br><div><a href="mailto:VirginiaP@diplomacy.edu" target="_blank">VirginiaP@diplomacy.edu</a><br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 9 September 2012 08:41, William Drake <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hi Jeremy<div><br></div><div>Thanks for moving this forward. Your message to the governance list today prompted me to have a non-cursory second look at the draft schedule, and I'm wondering if we might not want to consider others options before locking in on the present version, which is:</div>
<div><br></div><div>Day 1 - Saturday<br>09:00 - 10:45 - Internet governance history and review</div><div><div>11:00 - 12:45 - The ITU and the International Telecommunications Regulations</div><div>14:00 - 15:45 - Declarations of Internet rights and Internet governance principles</div>
<div>16:00 - 17:45 - Process towards enhanced cooperation on Internet public policy issues</div><div><br></div>Day 2 - Sunday<br>09:00 - 12:45 (stream 1) - Drafting a civil society statement to WCIT<br>09:00 - 12:45 (stream 2) - Drafting civil society IG principles for the IGF<br>
<div>14:00 - 15:00 - Streams return together, present and discuss draft texts from morning</div>15:15 - 17:00 - Next steps<br><div>17:00 - 17:30 - Press conference and close</div><div><br></div><div>Thoughts:</div><div><br>
</div><div>1. We all have lots of experience with splitting meetings into break-out drafting groups and views on its utility. I'm in the camp that thinks that in a setting like this, the costs would significantly outweigh the benefits. I strongly believe it'd much better if everyone can be in on both conversations and approach all the potential outputs holistically. </div>
<div><br></div><div>2. I don't think it's optimal to devote day 1 to three big topic areas and then return to two of them on day 2 and try to draft texts. I'd rather keep the flow of discussion and thinking on each piece all together than break it. Moreover,</div>
<div><br></div><div> a. If we're not drafting on enhanced cooperation, why spend two hours talking about it? As we all know, there is a full-day meeting organized by APC, ISOC and ICC the day after Best Bits. Enhanced cooperation will also be taken up in a main session, an Euro Commission Open Forum (oddly enough), etc. So it's not clear to me what the value added of loading this into an already heavy schedule would be. </div>
<div><br></div><div> b. I wonder about the efficacy of trying to write something serious, in a group context, from a full stop, on WCIT and IG principles in the time allotted. If all we're shooting for is a page and half of high-level generalities fine, but if we're trying to actually influence governments and other stakeholders it could be more demanding. </div>
<div><br></div><div> c. I wonder about the need for panels and panelists. </div><div><br></div><div> d. For a two-day meeting that comes before another day of meetings (enhanced cooperation, GigaNet symposium, ISOC, ministerial, etc etc) and then four long days of IGF, I would suggest trying not to make this feel like an endurance testing marathon. </div>
<div><br></div><div>3. Hence, I would like to suggest what I believe would be an easier, more focused, and ultimately more productive and enjoyable approach:</div><div><br></div><div>Day 1 - Saturday</div><div>09:00 - 10:45 <span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Group review and discussion of the state of play and our goals regarding global IG principles </div>
<div>11:00 - 12:00 Organization and mapping of drafting exercise</div><div>13:30 - 17:45<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Drafting civil society IG principles for the IGF</div><div><br></div><div>
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Day 2 - Sunday</div><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>09:00 - 10:45 <span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Group review and discussion of the state of play and our goals regarding WCIT</div><div>11:00 - 12:00 Organization and mapping of drafting exercise</div>
<div>13:30 - 17:45<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Drafting a civil society statement to WCIT </div></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><br></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Just my preference…others may have others, so how about let's discuss and decide together?</div>
<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><br></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word">BTW, perhaps in a separate thread, we might want to discuss what's supposed to be done with these statements. How exactly do we see "principles for the IGF" and a "statement to WCIT" feeding into the respective processes, etc…</div>
<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><br></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Best,</div><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><br></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Bill</div><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><br>***************************************************<br>
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