From seth.p.johnson at gmail.com Mon May 4 13:33:53 2015 From: seth.p.johnson at gmail.com (Seth Johnson) Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 13:33:53 -0400 Subject: [bestbits] On WSIS+10 Review and the CSTD Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Seth Johnson Date: Mon, May 4, 2015 at 1:23 PM Subject: On WSIS+10 Review and the CSTD To: internetpolicy The WSIS+10 review process does not address the special contributions that the Internet makes to the Information Society's goals by its distinctive characteristics. It solely focuses on ICTs in general and does not distinguish the open Internet from specialized services or other types of networks. The Information Society's performance measures exhibit the same defect. The following letter to the UN GIS has been forwarded to the CSTD. It offers recommendations to assure that the Information Society project addresses the relationship between its initiatives and the Internet: http://internetdistinction.com/wsisimpacts/statements/wsis-10-letter/ Also see the analysis of the performance measures here: http://internetdistinction.com/wsisimpacts/2014/03/25/wsis-measures-understanding-impacts-on-the-internet/ The following letter called attention to the Opinion submitted by the Internet Systems Consortium to the WTPF, also on this concern: http://internetdistinction.com/wsisimpacts/2013/02/15/supporters-letter-to-informal-experts-group/ http://internetdistinction.com/wsisimpacts/on-the-opinion/ http://internetdistinction.com/wsisimpacts/on-the-opinion/opinion-streamlined/ http://www.itu.int/md/S13-WTPF13IEG3-C-0049/en Seth From lorena at collaboratory.de Wed May 6 10:46:37 2015 From: lorena at collaboratory.de (Lorena Jaume-Palasi) Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 16:46:37 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] Sign-on: Open letter to Mark Zuckerberg on Net Neutrality and Internet.org In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear all, apologies for cross-posting. A group within the diverse session organising teams at euroDIG is also working on a multistakeholder statement on net neutrality. It covers the human rights, the end-user and the business perspective and they just opened the draft for public comments here: www.eurodig.org/eurodig-2015/net-neutrality-statement/ They would certainly be very happy to receive your feedback. Kind regards, Lorena 2015-05-06 16:37 GMT+02:00 Josh Levy : > Hi all - > > Facebook's recent updates to Internet.org fail to make the program respect > the principle of Net Neutrality, and introduce several privacy and security > problems which need to be addressed immediately. > > In response, we've drafted an open letter to Mark Zuckerberg that outlines > ongoing concerns with Internet.org and suggests several fixes. You can view > it here: https://pad.riseup.net/p/internet-dot-org-net-neutrality > > > > *Please read and review the letter, and let me know if your organization > can sign on to it.We're hoping to get everyone's responses by Friday 11:59 > am ET. We plan to publicize the letter early next week.* > > We have a lot of momentum this week, with more and more concern being > voiced about this program. Please let me know if you can sign this letter > ASAP. > > Best, > Josh Levy > > -- > *Josh Levy* > Advocacy Director > Access | accessnow.org > > tel: + 1 917 609 6523 | @levjoy > PGP: 0x84C9F275 > Fingerprint: B56A D510 3142 2364 69C7 3961 A0A3 67A5 84C9 F275 > > *Join the Access team - *we're hiring > ! > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > -- Lorena Jaume-Palasí ∙ Coordinator, Global Internet Governance Arbeitsgruppe Internet & Gesellschaft Co:llaboratory e.V. www.intgovforum.de ∙ www.collaboratory.de ∙ Newsletter ∙ Facebook ∙ Twitter ∙ Youtube -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From parminder at itforchange.net Sun May 24 02:58:26 2015 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 12:28:26 +0530 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: <14d8210ca40.2758.9387b8a9f30986f905fcc4cfa238b71f@consensus.pro> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> <555B3194.6020509@itforchange.net> <555B6A0A.7000504@eff.org> <555B7D35.2030303@apc.org> <55602D1A.3070009@itforchange.net> <9941F756-12FA-4722-AE25-D40C8EB8E7B1@derechosdigitales.org> <080EAD77-A6DB-4916-BFA3-665A2B2C6385@consensus.pro> <5560B7BC.3020507@itforchange.net> <14d81e52e30.27d1.9387b8a9f30986f905fcc4cfa238b71f@consensus.pro> <5560C4A1.6010306@itforchange.net> <14d8210ca40.2758.9387b8a9f30986f905fcc4cfa238b71f@consensus.pro> Message-ID: <55617692.20204@itforchange.net> On Sunday 24 May 2015 12:07 AM, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote: > > Parminder, to be honest, this dialogue to me exemplifies the problems > with the dialogue here. > Please do clearly state what your problems are bec I do not fully understand them, other than that you do not want a discussion of how too much and inappropriate corporatist infusions into civil society spaces constraint development of the needed public interest position that is civil society's primary purpose to do and advocate... Now if that is the crux of your problem, which the current discussion in the BB list has been about, and which you decried, I dont see much credibility in a senior rep of tech industry making such a statement. it is kind of so obvious that it is meaningless. > You've known me for many years > That has no relevance here.... I would have been making the same comment if my brother was involved in this business. > and the positions I routinely take. > That too has no relevance, although I can begin speaking about your positions which I wont. In the same way, excuse the analogy, if a dictator says, well, see my policies are good, why are you asking for democracy, it would not hold ground when people are seeking a political structural change ... The main burden of my current interventions has been that 'content' cannot be seen in isolation of 'structure'. Your statements in fact give a very good example of what I was trying to argue in my previous emails. > We have had this conversation before, I won't burden this list with a > rerun. I won't be replying further on this subject. > I can understand that. So I take it that when you answered 'yes. I am a civil society person' it was in fact an untrue assertion. You are a senior rep of a business association. And you cannot be both. We of the civil society do not accept it. And if your new organisation IDEA is proposing to be a civil society organisation, let it disclose its primary aims, and funding, and whether it would accept a lobbying assignment from any corporate or industry body. The question is specific, so please try a specific response. Transparency and accountability are essential facets of democratic public life, even more so for civil society, which has to be an exemplar. I as a civil society activist will only have it like that, and push it with all the strength I have. Dont expect me to be deterred just because an industry group or its reps want me to shut up and let corporates lead the civil society discourse by the nose. No, I wouldnt have it. > Life's too short. > Not to be upfront, transparent and honest! That is what civil society has to be about. parminder > On 23 May 2015 8:19:49 pm parminder wrote: > >> >> >> On Saturday 23 May 2015 11:19 PM, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote: >>> >>> Dear Parminder, nobody can stop you from assuming the worst, but >>> that doesn't make it true. Candidly, it does increase the overall >>> hostility on the list, which seems to me the opposite of what this >>> liat needs. >>> >>> As to your question, which has been asked and answered before >>> several times in different forms in this list and the ICC list too, >>> yes I am. Even more so given my present professional post ends in a >>> few days at the end of this month. >>> >> >> Dear Nick, >> >> I am asking your present affiliation, about which I am still not >> clear from the above. Even President Obama can claim he is civil >> society person with a right to intervene in civil society procedural >> discussions but then that would be odd, and unacceptable, isnt >> it.... (And think of Obama trying to justify it by saying that he is >> going to lay down office quite soon!) >> >> The website of your organisation IDEA, whose composition, purpose and >> funding, I still do not yet understand, currently lists you - >> apparently its only staff member - as ' Nick Ashton-Hart is the >> senior permanent representative of the technology sector to the UN, >> its member-states, and the international organisations in Geneva'. I >> am not sure if IDEA can be considered as a civil society >> organisation with its only staff being the rep of the tech industry >> sector.... Really more than a bit funny, I must say. >> >> Let me tell you, any worthwhile civil society group I know would find >> all this as extremely odd, and unacceptable. This strange >> normlessness and corporate-friendly promiscuity in the IG civil >> society is exactly what my earlier email was talking about. It is >> this which does not allow global IG CS to develop the right >> conceptions of public interest in global IG, much less let it fight >> forcefully for it. I and groups I work with consider it an extremly >> important issue in our civil society work, and would keep taking it >> up forcefully. >> >> Best, parminder >> >> >>> On 23 May 2015 19:24:46 parminder wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday 23 May 2015 10:01 PM, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote: >>>>> +1 >>>> >>>> Not sure what you are plus-one-ing to, Nick, but if indeed you want >>>> to make a spectacle of it, well fine by me... I was trying a >>>> reasoned discussion on what kind of civil society spaces we need to >>>> promote public interest but you dont seem to be wanting any of it. >>>> You are baying for blood, so as to say. >>>> >>>> So, let me ask you, since you are dispensing gratuitous advice on >>>> what should be the nature of civil society, and indeed what is an >>>> ok subject to discuss on the bestbits list, are you a civil society >>>> member. Just a direct question for self identification . Last time >>>> I checked BestBits was a civil society coalition, and while it may >>>> be so that we may not really be too fussy about people observing >>>> proceedings and also maybe sometimes do a post or too, but you are >>>> actually telling how bestbits group should conduct its business, >>>> and I also have seem numerous comments of a similar kind about the >>>> IGC list. >>>> >>>> Thanks for the information, and no offense personally. Your example >>>> is quite a good and live one for my discussion on the problematic >>>> construction of civil society spaces in the IG area. I would have >>>> tried to not directly talk about it, just not to hurt anyone, but >>>> since you are pushing the issue hard I dont think I need to have >>>> any of such qualms. >>>> >>>> Have a good day! >>>> >>>> parminder >>>>>> On 23 May 2015, at 17:42, Claudio Ruiz >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> With all due respect, I don’t have the time neither the energy of answering >>>>>> a 1,500 words email. >>>>>> Happy to engage in long discussions face to face or with a beer. Not by >>>>>> email in a mailing list. That’s the whole point, at the end. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> —Claudio Ruiz >>>>>> derechosdigitales.org | @claudio >>>>>> PGP fingerprint >>>>>> C40E 0C6E E7B2 FA91 D8A9 1FC4 74D2 5C4D B603 D089 >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 23-05-2015, at 4:32, parminder >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (…) >>>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >>>>>> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >>>>> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >>>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >>> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From parminder at itforchange.net Sun May 24 03:31:29 2015 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 13:01:29 +0530 Subject: [bestbits] Civil society transparency Message-ID: <55617E51.5010901@itforchange.net> Ian, and reps of civil society networks on the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) , I propose that CSCG sets up a civil society transparency project, somewhat on the lines of the EU Transparency Register, pl see http://ec.europa.eu/transparencyregister/public/homePage.do . It should in fact go beyond the EU initiative which is a general one for all lobbying groups, whereas we here are concerned with civil society which should set the highest example of transparency and accountability. The 'register' can have self filled information on objectives of an organisation, principles followed by it, if any, its funding, partners, and so on.... This is at present just my proposal, but I hope one or more civil society networks in the IG space can own it and push it... CSCG would be well placed to run this project as a neutral space so that there is no accusation of bias that any such initiative is being employed for partisan purposes. In any case, a simple initiative for openness, transparency and accountability can hardly be partisan. The register can have optional higher level features whereby a group/ org can declare its means of public accountability, whether and how its internal governance is done, how matters can be taken by with their oversight bodies, like board etc, and whether they have any means whereby they respond to public question on their work, etc. For such genuine cases where such transparency can harm an organisations work, or security, such organisations, and only such organisations, can be exempted employing a clear process and set of criteria. Remember, both the UN report on improvements to the IGF and the NetMundial Statement highlight the issue of transparency. I also recently read in these lists how we should make bridges with the OpenGov movement which is almost wholly about this one thing. Time we begin practising what we preach. I look forward to hear responses to this proposal.. parminder -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nb at bollow.ch Sun May 24 06:59:01 2015 From: nb at bollow.ch (Norbert Bollow) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 12:59:01 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: <55617692.20204@itforchange.net> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> <555B3194.6020509@itforchange.net> <555B6A0A.7000504@eff.org> <555B7D35.2030303@apc.org> <55602D1A.3070009@itforchange.net> <9941F756-12FA-4722-AE25-D40C8EB8E7B1@derechosdigitales.org> <080EAD77-A6DB-4916-BFA3-665A2B2C6385@consensus.pro> <5560B7BC.3020507@itforchange.net> <14d81e52e30.27d1.9387b8a9f30986f905fcc4cfa238b71f@consensus.pro> <5560C4A1.6010306@itforchange.net> <14d8210ca40.2758.9387b8a9f30986f905fcc4cfa238b71f@consensus.pro> <55617692.20204@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <20150524125901.0f0b8b23@quill> On Sun, 24 May 2015 12:28:26 +0530 parminder wrote: > > Life's too short. > > > Not to be upfront, transparent and honest! That is what civil society > has to be about. Certainly life is too short to waste it on building civil society bodies only to discover afterwards that there was undisclosed, undue influence from representatives of particular interests. I wholeheartedly agree with Parminder here. Greetings, Norbert From ca at cafonso.ca Sun May 24 08:59:12 2015 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos A. Afonso) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 14:59:12 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] Civil society transparency In-Reply-To: <55617E51.5010901@itforchange.net> References: <55617E51.5010901@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <3EC00E65-6FB3-4348-B2FF-431622469E89@cafonso.ca> Parm, all this fuzz just to expel Nick?? --c.a. sent from a dumbphone > On 24/05/2015, at 09:31, parminder wrote: > > Ian, and reps of civil society networks on the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) , > > I propose that CSCG sets up a civil society transparency project, somewhat on the lines of the EU Transparency Register, pl see http://ec.europa.eu/transparencyregister/public/homePage.do . > > It should in fact go beyond the EU initiative which is a general one for all lobbying groups, whereas we here are concerned with civil society which should set the highest example of transparency and accountability. The 'register' can have self filled information on objectives of an organisation, principles followed by it, if any, its funding, partners, and so on.... > > This is at present just my proposal, but I hope one or more civil society networks in the IG space can own it and push it... CSCG would be well placed to run this project as a neutral space so that there is no accusation of bias that any such initiative is being employed for partisan purposes. In any case, a simple initiative for openness, transparency and accountability can hardly be partisan. > > The register can have optional higher level features whereby a group/ org can declare its means of public accountability, whether and how its internal governance is done, how matters can be taken by with their oversight bodies, like board etc, and whether they have any means whereby they respond to public question on their work, etc. > > For such genuine cases where such transparency can harm an organisations work, or security, such organisations, and only such organisations, can be exempted employing a clear process and set of criteria. > > Remember, both the UN report on improvements to the IGF and the NetMundial Statement highlight the issue of transparency. I also recently read in these lists how we should make bridges with the OpenGov movement which is almost wholly about this one thing. Time we begin practising what we preach. > > I look forward to hear responses to this proposal.. > > parminder > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nashton at consensus.pro Sun May 24 09:41:21 2015 From: nashton at consensus.pro (Nick Ashton-Hart) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 15:41:21 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] Civil society transparency In-Reply-To: <3EC00E65-6FB3-4348-B2FF-431622469E89@cafonso.ca> References: <55617E51.5010901@itforchange.net> <3EC00E65-6FB3-4348-B2FF-431622469E89@cafonso.ca> Message-ID: <3F2340E4-CAA6-43C2-B9C4-464531F862AA@consensus.pro> Dear Carlos, If the objective is to get rid of me, then perhaps it is useful to know: * I do not currently receive *any* private-sector funding for IDEA's activities - nor have I in 2015. * IDEA's mission is not to represent the private sector, as even the most basic reading of the 'about' page clearly states. * IDEA's Advisory Council has a majority of people who are not even *from* the private sector. * Any number of NGOs on this list receive heads-up messages about events that only someone who lives in works in international Geneva would ever know about - and few even then - not because they pay for it but because I believe they should know about it to more effectively represent the civil society interest. * Last, but not least, irrespective of the above, none of us are defined by our jobs. We all are people first and we should IMO always approach life first as people with an obligation to our fellow man and woman and the common weal, and everything else second. If someone here who is actually getting paid by the private sector is intervening here constructively in their off time as a private person they ought to be welcomed and encouraged. IMO. Frankly this list could use a whole lot more welcoming and encouraging than it presently has. Again IMO. So if the objective is to get rid of me, then you're getting rid of someone simply because one vocal member of the list doesn't like my agreeing with what someone else on the list said and not in any way. Perhaps we might all now move on to actual substance? Even if it is setting up a transparency project, separate from a connection with me personally. Such a project isn't a bad idea, as long as it is administered in the interests of transparency overall and not as a vehicle for silencing people not for who they are or what they have to say but because their views are inconvenient at one time or another. Regards, Nick On 24 May 2015, at 14:59, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: > Parm, all this fuzz just to expel Nick?? > > --c.a. > > sent from a dumbphone > > On 24/05/2015, at 09:31, parminder wrote: > >> Ian, and reps of civil society networks on the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) , >> >> I propose that CSCG sets up a civil society transparency project, somewhat on the lines of the EU Transparency Register, pl see http://ec.europa.eu/transparencyregister/public/homePage.do . >> >> It should in fact go beyond the EU initiative which is a general one for all lobbying groups, whereas we here are concerned with civil society which should set the highest example of transparency and accountability. The 'register' can have self filled information on objectives of an organisation, principles followed by it, if any, its funding, partners, and so on.... >> >> This is at present just my proposal, but I hope one or more civil society networks in the IG space can own it and push it... CSCG would be well placed to run this project as a neutral space so that there is no accusation of bias that any such initiative is being employed for partisan purposes. In any case, a simple initiative for openness, transparency and accountability can hardly be partisan. >> >> The register can have optional higher level features whereby a group/ org can declare its means of public accountability, whether and how its internal governance is done, how matters can be taken by with their oversight bodies, like board etc, and whether they have any means whereby they respond to public question on their work, etc. >> >> For such genuine cases where such transparency can harm an organisations work, or security, such organisations, and only such organisations, can be exempted employing a clear process and set of criteria. >> >> Remember, both the UN report on improvements to the IGF and the NetMundial Statement highlight the issue of transparency. I also recently read in these lists how we should make bridges with the OpenGov movement which is almost wholly about this one thing. Time we begin practising what we preach. >> >> I look forward to hear responses to this proposal.. >> >> parminder >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 670 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From roberta.lentz at mcgill.ca Sun May 24 11:44:37 2015 From: roberta.lentz at mcgill.ca (Becky Lentz) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 11:44:37 -0400 Subject: [bestbits] The elephant in the room? Message-ID: Dear BB and JNC colleagues, Reading BB list posts over the past two days re the tension/debate about accountability feels toxic/uncivil (at least to this reader anyway), unless that recurring conversation can actually Œgo somewhere¹ beyond periodic disagreements about what is/isn¹t civil society and what transparency and representation ought to mean, or doesn't mean, to various participants. What is remarkable, imho, is how BB has managed to find ways to work together when it is strategically useful to do so despite all of the obstacles to collaboration that clearly exist: the elephant in the room. Yet, while that doesn¹t seem problematic to some, it does to others if they are seeking to change the very values/principles that drive the work itself. For what it¹s worth (knowing that those with longer histories doing this kind of work most likely have encountered such tools as well as critiques of them), here are some links that might be considered by BB¹s executive committee, and for that matter, the JNC¹s leaders, if either is potentially interested in taking its own model of collaboration to another level in the IG/digital rights field and beyond. In fact, the IG/digital rights field could take on actually providing other fields with a model of how to navigate these tensions, if addressing Œthe elephant in the room¹ were also considered an equally important Œpart of the work¹ alongside the very necessary research/advocacy/organizing work already going on. The tools in this resource uphold four accountability principles. Implemented at various key institutional and research processes, they aim to improve accountability relations between organisations and their stakeholders: http://www.oneworldtrust.org/apro/about and http://www.oneworldtrust.org/apro/about/using_the_tools. This may also be of interest 'Does it matter Who Funds You?¹ http://www.oneworldtrust.org/blog/?p=579 Becky Lentz McGill University From parminder at itforchange.net Sun May 24 12:49:58 2015 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 22:19:58 +0530 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Civil society transparency In-Reply-To: <3EC00E65-6FB3-4348-B2FF-431622469E89@cafonso.ca> References: <55617E51.5010901@itforchange.net> <3EC00E65-6FB3-4348-B2FF-431622469E89@cafonso.ca> Message-ID: <55620136.5070903@itforchange.net> On Sunday 24 May 2015 06:29 PM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: > Parm, all this fuzz just to expel Nick?? Carlos, I am not sure where you read an expelling clause. The primary purpose of neither the EU transparency register nor my proposal is of *judging* organisational mission, funding etc, but to bring these informations upfront and make them public, which by any canon of democratic public life they should be . I am sorry if all this looks fuzz to you, but transparency of public actors including of civil society actors is regular civil society stuff for the civil society that I know and interact with. Maybe you can relax and try to see this proposal on its merit without thinking about who is proposing it and what you may be jumping to consider as its 'real purpose'. Perhaps it may put your mind to rest to know that I have made such a proposal a few times in my IGC postings, and also have been in talk with a major south based civil society IG group for over an year now about it. So, may I ask you, putting Nick out of your mind, what do you think of this proposal as an important civil society person/ org in this space. Thanks. parminder > --c.a. > > sent from a dumbphone > > On 24/05/2015, at 09:31, parminder > wrote: > >> Ian, and reps of civil society networks on the Civil Society >> Coordination Group (CSCG) , >> >> I propose that CSCG sets up a civil society transparency project, >> somewhat on the lines of the EU Transparency Register, pl see >> http://ec.europa.eu/transparencyregister/public/homePage.do . >> >> It should in fact go beyond the EU initiative which is a general one >> for all lobbying groups, whereas we here are concerned with civil >> society which should set the highest example of transparency and >> accountability. The 'register' can have self filled information on >> objectives of an organisation, principles followed by it, if any, its >> funding, partners, and so on.... >> >> This is at present just my proposal, but I hope one or more civil >> society networks in the IG space can own it and push it... CSCG would >> be well placed to run this project as a neutral space so that there >> is no accusation of bias that any such initiative is being employed >> for partisan purposes. In any case, a simple initiative for openness, >> transparency and accountability can hardly be partisan. >> >> The register can have optional higher level features whereby a group/ >> org can declare its means of public accountability, whether and how >> its internal governance is done, how matters can be taken by with >> their oversight bodies, like board etc, and whether they have any >> means whereby they respond to public question on their work, etc. >> >> For such genuine cases where such transparency can harm an >> organisations work, or security, such organisations, and only such >> organisations, can be exempted employing a clear process and set of >> criteria. >> >> Remember, both the UN report on improvements to the IGF and the >> NetMundial Statement highlight the issue of transparency. I also >> recently read in these lists how we should make bridges with the >> OpenGov movement which is almost wholly about this one thing. Time we >> begin practising what we preach. >> >> I look forward to hear responses to this proposal.. >> >> parminder >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net . >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From parminder at itforchange.net Sun May 24 13:13:11 2015 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 22:43:11 +0530 Subject: [bestbits] Civil society transparency In-Reply-To: <3F2340E4-CAA6-43C2-B9C4-464531F862AA@consensus.pro> References: <55617E51.5010901@itforchange.net> <3EC00E65-6FB3-4348-B2FF-431622469E89@cafonso.ca> <3F2340E4-CAA6-43C2-B9C4-464531F862AA@consensus.pro> Message-ID: <556206A7.5090002@itforchange.net> Nick Thanks for your support to a possible civil society transparency project. As for your desire that it has overall good interests in mind you'd have noted that I have made the proposal to Civil Society Coordination Group ( CSCG) to run it, but if you have a better administrative structure in mind lets discuss it. I am happy to help raise funds because civil society transparency is relatively easier to raise funds for than many other areas. As for your arguments why you should not be gotten rid of, you are making offerings to a strawman, a rather unfruitful exercise normally. parminder On Sunday 24 May 2015 07:11 PM, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote: > Dear Carlos, > > If the objective is to get rid of me, then perhaps it is useful to know: > > * I do not currently receive *any* private-sector funding for IDEA's > activities - nor have I in 2015. > * IDEA's mission is not to represent the private sector, as even the > most basic reading of the 'about' page clearly states. > * IDEA's Advisory Council > has a majority > of people who are not even *from* the private sector. > * Any number of NGOs on this list receive heads-up messages about > events that only someone who lives in works in international Geneva > would ever know about - and few even then - not because they pay for > it but because I believe they should know about it to more effectively > represent the civil society interest. > * Last, but not least, irrespective of the above, none of us are > defined by our jobs. We all are people first and we should IMO always > approach life first as people with an obligation to our fellow man and > woman and the common weal, and everything else second. If someone here > who is actually getting paid by the private sector is intervening here > constructively in their off time as a private person they ought to be > welcomed and encouraged. IMO. Frankly this list could use a whole lot > more welcoming and encouraging than it presently has. Again IMO. > > So if the objective is to get rid of me, then you're getting rid of > someone simply because one vocal member of the list doesn't like my > agreeing with what someone else on the list said and not in any way. > > Perhaps we might all now move on to actual substance? Even if it is > setting up a transparency project, separate from a connection with me > personally. Such a project isn't a bad idea, as long as it is > administered in the interests of transparency overall and not as a > vehicle for silencing people not for who they are or what they have to > say but because their views are inconvenient at one time or another. > > Regards, Nick > > On 24 May 2015, at 14:59, Carlos A. Afonso > wrote: > >> Parm, all this fuzz just to expel Nick?? >> >> --c.a. >> >> sent from a dumbphone >> >> On 24/05/2015, at 09:31, parminder > > wrote: >> >>> Ian, and reps of civil society networks on the Civil Society >>> Coordination Group (CSCG) , >>> >>> I propose that CSCG sets up a civil society transparency project, >>> somewhat on the lines of the EU Transparency Register, pl see >>> http://ec.europa.eu/transparencyregister/public/homePage.do . >>> >>> It should in fact go beyond the EU initiative which is a general one >>> for all lobbying groups, whereas we here are concerned with civil >>> society which should set the highest example of transparency and >>> accountability. The 'register' can have self filled information on >>> objectives of an organisation, principles followed by it, if any, >>> its funding, partners, and so on.... >>> >>> This is at present just my proposal, but I hope one or more civil >>> society networks in the IG space can own it and push it... CSCG >>> would be well placed to run this project as a neutral space so that >>> there is no accusation of bias that any such initiative is being >>> employed for partisan purposes. In any case, a simple initiative for >>> openness, transparency and accountability can hardly be partisan. >>> >>> The register can have optional higher level features whereby a >>> group/ org can declare its means of public accountability, whether >>> and how its internal governance is done, how matters can be taken by >>> with their oversight bodies, like board etc, and whether they have >>> any means whereby they respond to public question on their work, etc. >>> >>> For such genuine cases where such transparency can harm an >>> organisations work, or security, such organisations, and only such >>> organisations, can be exempted employing a clear process and set of >>> criteria. >>> >>> Remember, both the UN report on improvements to the IGF and the >>> NetMundial Statement highlight the issue of transparency. I also >>> recently read in these lists how we should make bridges with the >>> OpenGov movement which is almost wholly about this one thing. Time >>> we begin practising what we preach. >>> >>> I look forward to hear responses to this proposal.. >>> >>> parminder >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net . >>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >>> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net . >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ca at cafonso.ca Sun May 24 13:28:43 2015 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos Afonso) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 19:28:43 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Civil society transparency In-Reply-To: <3F2340E4-CAA6-43C2-B9C4-464531F862AA@consensus.pro> References: <55617E51.5010901@itforchange.net> <3EC00E65-6FB3-4348-B2FF-431622469E89@cafonso.ca> <3F2340E4-CAA6-43C2-B9C4-464531F862AA@consensus.pro> Message-ID: <55620A4B.7060206@cafonso.ca> I do hope you stay with us. fraternal regards --c.a. On 24-05-15 15:41, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote: > Dear Carlos, > > If the objective is to get rid of me, then perhaps it is useful to know: > > * I do not currently receive *any* private-sector funding for IDEA's activities - nor have I in 2015. > * IDEA's mission is not to represent the private sector, as even the most basic reading of the 'about' page clearly states. > * IDEA's Advisory Council has a majority of people who are not even *from* the private sector. > * Any number of NGOs on this list receive heads-up messages about events that only someone who lives in works in international Geneva would ever know about - and few even then - not because they pay for it but because I believe they should know about it to more effectively represent the civil society interest. > * Last, but not least, irrespective of the above, none of us are defined by our jobs. We all are people first and we should IMO always approach life first as people with an obligation to our fellow man and woman and the common weal, and everything else second. If someone here who is actually getting paid by the private sector is intervening here constructively in their off time as a private person they ought to be welcomed and encouraged. IMO. Frankly this list could use a whole lot more welcoming and encouraging than it presently has. Again IMO. > > So if the objective is to get rid of me, then you're getting rid of someone simply because one vocal member of the list doesn't like my agreeing with what someone else on the list said and not in any way. > > Perhaps we might all now move on to actual substance? Even if it is setting up a transparency project, separate from a connection with me personally. Such a project isn't a bad idea, as long as it is administered in the interests of transparency overall and not as a vehicle for silencing people not for who they are or what they have to say but because their views are inconvenient at one time or another. > > Regards, Nick > > On 24 May 2015, at 14:59, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: > >> Parm, all this fuzz just to expel Nick?? >> >> --c.a. >> >> sent from a dumbphone >> >> On 24/05/2015, at 09:31, parminder wrote: >> >>> Ian, and reps of civil society networks on the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) , >>> >>> I propose that CSCG sets up a civil society transparency project, somewhat on the lines of the EU Transparency Register, pl see http://ec.europa.eu/transparencyregister/public/homePage.do . >>> >>> It should in fact go beyond the EU initiative which is a general one for all lobbying groups, whereas we here are concerned with civil society which should set the highest example of transparency and accountability. The 'register' can have self filled information on objectives of an organisation, principles followed by it, if any, its funding, partners, and so on.... >>> >>> This is at present just my proposal, but I hope one or more civil society networks in the IG space can own it and push it... CSCG would be well placed to run this project as a neutral space so that there is no accusation of bias that any such initiative is being employed for partisan purposes. In any case, a simple initiative for openness, transparency and accountability can hardly be partisan. >>> >>> The register can have optional higher level features whereby a group/ org can declare its means of public accountability, whether and how its internal governance is done, how matters can be taken by with their oversight bodies, like board etc, and whether they have any means whereby they respond to public question on their work, etc. >>> >>> For such genuine cases where such transparency can harm an organisations work, or security, such organisations, and only such organisations, can be exempted employing a clear process and set of criteria. >>> >>> Remember, both the UN report on improvements to the IGF and the NetMundial Statement highlight the issue of transparency. I also recently read in these lists how we should make bridges with the OpenGov movement which is almost wholly about this one thing. Time we begin practising what we preach. >>> >>> I look forward to hear responses to this proposal.. >>> >>> parminder >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >>> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > From ca at cafonso.ca Sun May 24 17:19:49 2015 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos Afonso) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 23:19:49 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Civil society transparency In-Reply-To: <3F2340E4-CAA6-43C2-B9C4-464531F862AA@consensus.pro> References: <55617E51.5010901@itforchange.net> <3EC00E65-6FB3-4348-B2FF-431622469E89@cafonso.ca> <3F2340E4-CAA6-43C2-B9C4-464531F862AA@consensus.pro> Message-ID: <55624075.3040503@cafonso.ca> I do hope you stay with us. fraternal regards --c.a. On 24-05-15 15:41, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote: > Dear Carlos, > > If the objective is to get rid of me, then perhaps it is useful to know: > > * I do not currently receive *any* private-sector funding for IDEA's activities - nor have I in 2015. > * IDEA's mission is not to represent the private sector, as even the most basic reading of the 'about' page clearly states. > * IDEA's Advisory Council has a majority of people who are not even *from* the private sector. > * Any number of NGOs on this list receive heads-up messages about events that only someone who lives in works in international Geneva would ever know about - and few even then - not because they pay for it but because I believe they should know about it to more effectively represent the civil society interest. > * Last, but not least, irrespective of the above, none of us are defined by our jobs. We all are people first and we should IMO always approach life first as people with an obligation to our fellow man and woman and the common weal, and everything else second. If someone here who is actually getting paid by the private sector is intervening here constructively in their off time as a private person they ought to be welcomed and encouraged. IMO. Frankly this list could use a whole lot more welcoming and encouraging than it presently has. Again IMO. > > So if the objective is to get rid of me, then you're getting rid of someone simply because one vocal member of the list doesn't like my agreeing with what someone else on the list said and not in any way. > > Perhaps we might all now move on to actual substance? Even if it is setting up a transparency project, separate from a connection with me personally. Such a project isn't a bad idea, as long as it is administered in the interests of transparency overall and not as a vehicle for silencing people not for who they are or what they have to say but because their views are inconvenient at one time or another. > > Regards, Nick > > On 24 May 2015, at 14:59, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: > >> Parm, all this fuzz just to expel Nick?? >> >> --c.a. >> >> sent from a dumbphone >> >> On 24/05/2015, at 09:31, parminder wrote: >> >>> Ian, and reps of civil society networks on the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) , >>> >>> I propose that CSCG sets up a civil society transparency project, somewhat on the lines of the EU Transparency Register, pl see http://ec.europa.eu/transparencyregister/public/homePage.do . >>> >>> It should in fact go beyond the EU initiative which is a general one for all lobbying groups, whereas we here are concerned with civil society which should set the highest example of transparency and accountability. The 'register' can have self filled information on objectives of an organisation, principles followed by it, if any, its funding, partners, and so on.... >>> >>> This is at present just my proposal, but I hope one or more civil society networks in the IG space can own it and push it... CSCG would be well placed to run this project as a neutral space so that there is no accusation of bias that any such initiative is being employed for partisan purposes. In any case, a simple initiative for openness, transparency and accountability can hardly be partisan. >>> >>> The register can have optional higher level features whereby a group/ org can declare its means of public accountability, whether and how its internal governance is done, how matters can be taken by with their oversight bodies, like board etc, and whether they have any means whereby they respond to public question on their work, etc. >>> >>> For such genuine cases where such transparency can harm an organisations work, or security, such organisations, and only such organisations, can be exempted employing a clear process and set of criteria. >>> >>> Remember, both the UN report on improvements to the IGF and the NetMundial Statement highlight the issue of transparency. I also recently read in these lists how we should make bridges with the OpenGov movement which is almost wholly about this one thing. Time we begin practising what we preach. >>> >>> I look forward to hear responses to this proposal.. >>> >>> parminder >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >>> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > From parminder at itforchange.net Thu May 7 05:46:59 2015 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 15:16:59 +0530 Subject: [bestbits] Review of book on 'Political economy of Internet freedom' Message-ID: <554B3493.9070802@itforchange.net> http://boundary2.org/2015/04/29/dissecting-the-internet-freedom-agenda/ *A**review by Richard Hill of* **** /*The Real Cyber War: The Political Economy of Internet Freedom*/* **by ***Shawn M. Powers and Michael Jablonski** ** ** Both radical civil society organizations and mainstream defenders of the status quo agree that the free and open Internet is threatened: see for example the Delhi Declaration , Bob Hinden’s 2014 Year End Thoughts , and Kathy Brown’s March 2015 statement at a UNESCO conference. The threats include government censorship and mass surveillance, but also the failure of governments to control rampant industry concentration and commercial exploitation of personal data, which increasingly takes the form of providing “free” services in exchange for personal information that is resold at a profit, or used to provide targeted advertising, also at a profit. In /Digital Disconnect /, Robert McChesney has explained how the Internet, which was supposed to be a force for the improvement of human rights and living conditions, has been used to erode privacy and to increase the concentration of economic power, to the point where it is becoming a threat to democracy . In /Digital Depression /, Dan Schiller has documented how US policies regarding the Internet have favored its geo-economic and geo-political goals, in particular the interests of its large private companies that dominate the information and communications technology (ICT) sector worldwide. Shawn M. Powers and Michael Jablonski ’s seminal new book /The Real Cyber War/ takes us further down the road of understanding what went wrong, and what might be done to correct the situation. Powers, an assistant professor at Georgia State University, specializes in international political communication, with particular attention to the geopolitics of information and information technologies. Jablonski is an attorney and presidential fellow, also at Georgia State. There is a vast literature on internet governance (see for example the bibliography in Radu, Chenou, and Weber, eds., /The Evolution of Global Internet Governance /), but much of it is ideological and normative: the author espouses a certain point of view, explains why that point of view is good, and proposes actions that would lead to the author’s desired outcome (a good example is Milton Mueller’s well researched but utopian /Networks and States /). There is nothing wrong with that approach: on the contrary, such advocacy is necessary and welcome. But a more detached analytical approach is also needed, and Powers and Jablonski provide exactly that. Their objective is to help us understand (citing from p. 19 of the paperback edition) “why states pursue the policies they do”. The book “focuses centrally on understanding the numerous ways in which power and control are exerted in cyberspace” (p. 19). Starting from the rather obvious premise that states compete to shape international policies that favor their interests, and using the framework of political economy, the authors outline the geopolitical stakes and show how questions of power , and not human rights , are the real drivers of much of the debate about Internet governance. They show how the United States has deliberately used a human rights discourse to promote policies that further its geo-economic and geo-political interests. And how it has used subsidies and government contracts to help its private companies to acquire or maintain dominant positions in much of the ICT sector. Jacob Silverman has decried the “the misguided belief that once power is arrogated away from doddering governmental institutions, it will somehow find itself in the hands of ordinary people”. Powers and Jablonski dissect the mechanisms by which vibrant government institutions deliberately transferred power to US corporations in order to further US geo-economical and geo-political goals. In particular, they show how a “freedom to connect” narrative is used by the USA to attempt to transform information and personal data into commercial commodities that should be subject to free trade. Yet all states (including the US) regulate, at least to some extent, the flow of information within and across their borders. If information is the “new oil” of our times, then it is not surprising that states wish to shape the production and flow of information in ways that favor their interests. Thus it is not surprising that states such as China, India, and Russia have started to assert sovereign rights to control some aspect of the production and flow of information within their borders, and that European Union courts have made decisions on the basis of European law that affect global information flows and access. As the authors put the matter (p. 6): “the [US] doctrine of internet freedom … is the realization of a broader [US] strategy promoting a particular conception of networked communication that depends on American companies …, supports Western norms …, and promotes Western products.” (I would personally say that it actually supports US norms and US products and services.) As the authors point out, one can ask (p. 11): “If states have a right to control the types of people allowed into their territory (immigration), and how its money is exchanged with foreign banks, then why don’t they have a right to control information flows from foreign actors?” To be sure, any such controls would have to comply with international human rights law. But the current US policies go much further, implying that those human rights laws must be implemented in accordance with the US interpretation, meaning few restrictions on freedom of speech, weak protection of privacy, and ever stricter protection for intellectual property. As Powers and Jablonski point out (p. 31), the US does not hesitate to promote restrictions on information flows when that promotes its goals. Again, the authors do not make value judgments: they explain in Chapter 1 how the US deliberately attempts to shape (to a large extent successfully ) international policies, so that both actions and inactions serve its interests and those of the large corporations that increasingly influence US policies. The authors then explain how the US military-industrial complex has morphed into an information-industrial complex, with deleterious consequences for both industry and government, consequences such as “weakened oversight, accountability, and industry vitality and competitiveness”(p. 23) that create risks for society and democracy. As the authors say, the shift “from adversarial to cooperative and/laissez-faire/ rule making is a keystone moment in the rise of the information-industrial complex” (p. 61). As a specific example, they focus on Google, showing how it (largely successfully) aims to control and dominate all aspects of the data market, from production, through extraction, refinement, infrastructure and demand. A chapter is devoted to the economics of internet connectivity, showing how US internet policy is basically about getting the largest number of people online, so that US companies can extract ever greater profits from the resulting data flows. They show how the network effects, economies of scale, and externalities that are fundamental features of the internet favor first-movers, which are mostly US companies. The remedy to such situations is well known: government intervention: widely accepted regarding air transport, road transport, pharmaceuticals, etc., and yet unthinkable for many regarding the internet. But why? As the authors put the matter (p. 24): “While heavy-handed government controls over the internet should be resisted, so should a system whereby internet connectivity requires the systematic transfer of wealth from the developing world to the developed.” But freedom of information is put forward to justify specific economic practices which would not be easy to justify otherwise, for example “no government taxes companies for data extraction or for data imports/exports, both of which are heavily regulated aspects of markets exchanging other valuable commodities”(p. 97). The authors show in detail how the so-called internet multi-stakeholder model of governance is dominated by insiders and used “under the veil of consensus’” (p. 136) to further US policies and corporations. A chapter is devoted to explaining how all states control, at least to some extent, information flows within their territories, and presents detailed studies of how four states (China, Egypt, Iran and the USA) have addressed the challenges of maintaining political control while respecting (or not) freedom of speech. The authors then turn to the very current topic of mass surveillance, and its relation to anonymity, showing how, when the US presents the internet and “freedom to connect” as analogous to public speech and town halls, it is deliberately arguing against anonymity and against privacy – and this of course in order to avoid restrictions on its mass surveillance activities. Thus the authors posit that there are tensions between the US call for “internet freedom” and other states’ calls for “information sovereignty”, and analyze the 2012 World Conference on International Telecommunications from that point of view. Not surprisingly, the authors conclude that international cooperation, recognizing the legitimate aspirations of all the world’s peoples, is the only proper way forward. As the authors put the matter (p. 206): “Activists and defenders of the original vision of the Web as a ‘fair and humane’ cyber-civilization need to avoid lofty ‘internet freedom’ declarations and instead champion specific reforms required to protect the values and practices they hold dear.” And it is with that in mind, as a counterweight to US and US-based corporate power, that a group of civil society organizations have launched the Internet Social Forum . Anybody who is seriously interested in the evolution of internet governance and its impact on society and democracy will enjoy reading this well researched book and its clear exposition of key facts. One can only hope that the Council of Europe will heed Powers and Jablonski’s advice and avoid adopting more resolutions such as the recent recommendation to member states by the EU Committee of Ministers , which merely pander to the US discourse and US power that Powers and Jablonski describe so aptly. And one can fondly hope that this book will help to inspire a change in course that will restore the internet to what it might become (and what many thought it was supposed to be): an engine for democracy and social and economic progress, justice, and equity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From parminder at itforchange.net Mon May 25 01:27:21 2015 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 10:57:21 +0530 Subject: [bestbits] The elephant in the room? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5562B2B9.6050403@itforchange.net> Dear Becky/ All Good to see a substantive discussion begin on this important topic. Hope the list can sustain such a discussion to come up with a transparency and accountability framework that is best for the IG civil society. The four principles in the cited document look good to me - transparency, participation, evaluation, and complaint and response mechanisms. Look forward to a good discussion on this list, and BB's steering committee's response to the proposal. I am also seeking a discussion on the JNC list, and will also request a formal response from the JNC. Best, parminder On Sunday 24 May 2015 09:14 PM, Becky Lentz wrote: > Dear BB and JNC colleagues, > > Reading BB list posts over the past two days re the tension/debate about > accountability feels toxic/uncivil (at least to this reader anyway), > unless that recurring conversation can actually Œgo somewhere¹ beyond > periodic disagreements about what is/isn¹t civil society and what > transparency and representation ought to mean, or doesn't mean, to various > participants. What is remarkable, imho, is how BB has managed to find ways > to work together when it is strategically useful to do so despite all of > the obstacles to collaboration that clearly exist: the elephant in the > room. Yet, while that doesn¹t seem problematic to some, it does to others > if they are seeking to change the very values/principles that drive the > work itself. > > For what it¹s worth (knowing that those with longer histories doing this > kind of work most likely have encountered such tools as well as critiques > of them), here are some links that might be considered by BB¹s executive > committee, and for that matter, the JNC¹s leaders, if either is > potentially interested in taking its own model of collaboration to another > level in the IG/digital rights field and beyond. In fact, the IG/digital > rights field could take on actually providing other fields with a model of > how to navigate these tensions, if addressing Œthe elephant in the room¹ > were also considered an equally important Œpart of the work¹ alongside the > very necessary research/advocacy/organizing work already going on. > > The tools in this resource uphold four accountability principles. > Implemented at various key institutional and research processes, they aim > to improve accountability relations between organisations and their > stakeholders: http://www.oneworldtrust.org/apro/about and > http://www.oneworldtrust.org/apro/about/using_the_tools. > > This may also be of interest 'Does it matter Who Funds You?¹ > http://www.oneworldtrust.org/blog/?p=579 > > Becky Lentz > McGill University > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ian.peter at ianpeter.com Mon May 25 02:57:42 2015 From: ian.peter at ianpeter.com (Ian Peter) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 14:57:42 +0800 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Civil society transparency In-Reply-To: <55617E51.5010901@itforchange.net> References: <55617E51.5010901@itforchange.net> Message-ID: Hi Parminder, Two issues in response to your suggestion. Firstly, the suggestion that CSCG do this. CSCG consists of five people who are pretty busy co-ordinating coalitions of CS organisations (BB, JNC, IGC, APC, NCSG) and myself as an independent chair. The role of CSCG is to ensure a co-ordinated civil society response and conduit when it comes to making civil society appointments to outside organisations. It has no staff, no funding, not even a formal charter. In order to address some of the issues it faces I have suggested from time to time that the membership be expanded to include say 3 more respected civil society people who are not formal representatives of coalitions of CS organisations. The last time I suggested this it was met with some strongly worded negative responses from JNC and I have not heard of any change of position on this. So for these reasons I don’t think CSCG is the right organisation to take on this task. Perhaps IGC? Secondly, I wonder how it would work in CS which has so many people who are basically acting as individuals rather than representatives of organisations. Many if not most of us also have non CS affiliations (eg membership of ISOC, business or governmental employees if we are cs volunteers, academic postings etc) so the “pure” CS rep is probably a bit hard to find. I am not sure what we would gain by having a register of all our multiple affiliations which would need regular updating to be of any use. I think we need to ensure our major coalitions (BB, JNC, IGC, APC, NCSG) act transparently, and by and large I think they do. But I am not sure of the value of extending this to what is probably tens of thousands of members or organisations affiliated with these larger groups. Over to others to discuss. I am not opposed to the suggestion that something be done in this area, but I think we need to refine any such idea somewhat, and if the aim is somehow to enhance CS credibility and transparency in this space, perhaps we should also discuss what other measures might also assist this. Ian Peter From: parminder Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 3:31 PM To: Ian Peter ; governance at lists.igcaucus.org ; BestBitsList ; mailto:forum at justnetcoalition.org ; A general information sharing space for the APC Community. Subject: [governance] Civil society transparency Ian, and reps of civil society networks on the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) , I propose that CSCG sets up a civil society transparency project, somewhat on the lines of the EU Transparency Register, pl see http://ec.europa.eu/transparencyregister/public/homePage.do . It should in fact go beyond the EU initiative which is a general one for all lobbying groups, whereas we here are concerned with civil society which should set the highest example of transparency and accountability. The 'register' can have self filled information on objectives of an organisation, principles followed by it, if any, its funding, partners, and so on.... This is at present just my proposal, but I hope one or more civil society networks in the IG space can own it and push it... CSCG would be well placed to run this project as a neutral space so that there is no accusation of bias that any such initiative is being employed for partisan purposes. In any case, a simple initiative for openness, transparency and accountability can hardly be partisan. The register can have optional higher level features whereby a group/ org can declare its means of public accountability, whether and how its internal governance is done, how matters can be taken by with their oversight bodies, like board etc, and whether they have any means whereby they respond to public question on their work, etc. For such genuine cases where such transparency can harm an organisations work, or security, such organisations, and only such organisations, can be exempted employing a clear process and set of criteria. Remember, both the UN report on improvements to the IGF and the NetMundial Statement highlight the issue of transparency. I also recently read in these lists how we should make bridges with the OpenGov movement which is almost wholly about this one thing. Time we begin practising what we preach. 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URL: From gurstein at gmail.com Mon May 25 07:47:48 2015 From: gurstein at gmail.com (Michael Gurstein) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 12:47:48 +0100 Subject: [bestbits] Civil society transparency In-Reply-To: <3F2340E4-CAA6-43C2-B9C4-464531F862AA@consensus.pro> References: <55617E51.5010901@itforchange.net> <3EC00E65-6FB3-4348-B2FF-431622469E89@cafonso.ca> <3F2340E4-CAA6-43C2-B9C4-464531F862AA@consensus.pro> Message-ID: <000d01d096e0$a059e130$e10da390$@gmail.com> This discussion seems to me to be deeply surreal... The issue of funding transparency surely isn't about targeting an individual or individuals because they have specific opinions. Rather because participation in civil society is to present oneself as having a certain status which in turn is presented as a signification of a certain legitimacy and thus as having a specified role in certain activities, discussions, decisions; knowing the background to those claiming such a status (viz. transparency) would appear to be a necessary pre-requisite to assigning the requested legitimacy. Knowing if an organization or (individual) is funded by the US State Department (or the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs), Google, or the Third World Network will provide a necessary (but of course not sufficient) insight into whether one individually or collectively will be willing to ascribe the requested status/legitimacy. This is as true in IG as it is in any other area where such status/legitimacy is being pursued. M -----Original Message----- From: bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net [mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net] On Behalf Of Nick Ashton-Hart Sent: May 24, 2015 2:41 PM To: Carlos A. Afonso Cc: parminder; Ian Peter; governance at lists.igcaucus.org; BestBitsList; Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org; A general information sharing space for the APC Community. Subject: Re: [bestbits] Civil society transparency --Apple-Mail=_4F029CA2-58D1-4761-A878-F5AEFBA676A8 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_EF94B69D-07E7-4941-ABDC-EB5C185B94B1" --Apple-Mail=_EF94B69D-07E7-4941-ABDC-EB5C185B94B1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear Carlos, If the objective is to get rid of me, then perhaps it is useful to know: * I do not currently receive *any* private-sector funding for IDEA's activi= ties - nor have I in 2015. * IDEA's mission is not to represent the private sector, as even the most b= asic reading of the 'about' page clearly states. * IDEA's Advisory Council has a majority of people who are not even *from* = the private sector. * Any number of NGOs on this list receive heads-up messages about events th= at only someone who lives in works in international Geneva would ever know = about - and few even then - not because they pay for it but because I belie= ve they should know about it to more effectively represent the civil societ= y interest. * Last, but not least, irrespective of the above, none of us are defined by= our jobs. We all are people first and we should IMO always approach life f= irst as people with an obligation to our fellow man and woman and the commo= n weal, and everything else second. If someone here who is actually getting= paid by the private sector is intervening here constructively in their off= time as a private person they ought to be welcomed and encouraged. IMO. Fr= ankly this list could use a whole lot more welcoming and encouraging than i= t presently has. Again IMO. So if the objective is to get rid of me, then you're getting rid of someone= simply because one vocal member of the list doesn't like my agreeing with = what someone else on the list said and not in any way. Perhaps we might all now move on to actual substance? Even if it is setting= up a transparency project, separate from a connection with me personally. = Such a project isn't a bad idea, as long as it is administered in the inter= ests of transparency overall and not as a vehicle for silencing people not = for who they are or what they have to say but because their views are incon= venient at one time or another. Regards, Nick On 24 May 2015, at 14:59, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: > Parm, all this fuzz just to expel Nick?? >=20 > --c.a. >=20 > sent from a dumbphone >=20 > On 24/05/2015, at 09:31, parminder wrote: >=20 >> Ian, and reps of civil society networks on the Civil Society >> Coordinatio= n Group (CSCG) , >>=20 >> I propose that CSCG sets up a civil society transparency project, >>somewh= at on the lines of the EU Transparency Register, pl see http://ec.europa.eu= /transparencyregister/public/homePage.do . >>=20 >> It should in fact go beyond the EU initiative which is a general one >>for= all lobbying groups, whereas we here are concerned with civil society whic= h should set the highest example of transparency and accountability. The 'r= egister' can have self filled information on objectives of an organisation,= principles followed by it, if any, its funding, partners, and so on....=20 >>=20 >> This is at present just my proposal, but I hope one or more civil >>societ= y networks in the IG space can own it and push it... CSCG would be well pla= ced to run this project as a neutral space so that there is no accusation o= f bias that any such initiative is being employed for partisan purposes. In= any case, a simple initiative for openness, transparency and accountabilit= y can hardly be partisan. >>=20 >> The register can have optional higher level features whereby a group/ >>or= g can declare its means of public accountability, whether and how its inter= nal governance is done, how matters can be taken by with their oversight bo= dies, like board etc, and whether they have any means whereby they respond = to public question on their work, etc. >>=20 >> For such genuine cases where such transparency can harm an >>organisations= work, or security, such organisations, and only such organisations, can be= exempted employing a clear process and set of criteria. >>=20 >> Remember, both the UN report on improvements to the IGF and the >>NetMundi= al Statement highlight the issue of transparency. I also recently read in t= hese lists how we should make bridges with the OpenGov movement which is al= most wholly about this one thing. Time we begin practising what we preach.= =20 >>=20 >> I look forward to hear responses to this proposal.. >>=20 >> parminder=20 >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits --Apple-Mail=_EF94B69D-07E7-4941-ABDC-EB5C185B94B1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Dear Carlos,

If the objective is to get rid of me, then perhaps it is useful to >kn= ow:

* I do not currently receive *any* private-sec= tor funding for IDEA's activities - nor have I in 2015.
* IDEA's = mission is not to represent the private sector, as even the most basic read= ing of the 'about' page clearly states.
* IDEA's Advisory Council h= as a majority of people who are not even *from* the private sector.
* Any number of NGOs on this list receive heads-up messages about iv>events= that only someone who lives in works in international Geneva would ever kn= ow about - and few even then - not because they pay for it but because I be= lieve they should know about it to more effectively represent the civil soc= iety interest.
* Last, but not least, irrespective of the above, = none of us are defined by our jobs. We all are people first and we should I= MO always approach life first as people with an obligation to our fellow ma= n and woman and the common weal, and everything else second. If someone her= e who is actually getting paid by the private sector is intervening here co= nstructively in their off time as a private person they ought to be welcome= d and encouraged. IMO. Frankly this list could use a whole lot more welcomi= ng and encouraging than it presently has. Again IMO.

So if the objective is to get rid of me, then you're getting rid of iv>some= one simply because one vocal member of the list doesn't like my agreeing wi= th what someone else on the list said and not in any way.

Perhaps we might all now move on to actual substance? Even if it iv>is= setting up a transparency project, separate from a connection with me pers= onally. Such a project isn't a bad idea, as long as it is administered in t= he interests of transparency overall and not as a vehicle for silencing peo= ple not for who they are or what they have to say but because their views a= re inconvenient at one time or another.

Regards, Nick

On 24 May 2015, at 14:59, Carlos = A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca> wrote:=

Parm, all this fuzz just to expel Nick??

--c.a.

sent from a dumbphone

On div>24/05/2015, a= t 09:31, parminder <parmind= er at itforchange.net> wrote:

=20=20 =20=20 =20=20 Ian, and reps of civil society networks on the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) ,

I propose that CSCG sets up a civil society transparency project, somewhat on the lines of the EU Transparency Register, pl see http://ec.europa.eu/transparencyregister= /public/homePage.do .

It should in fact go beyond the EU initiative which is a general one for all lobbying groups, whereas we here are concerned with civil society which should set the highest example of transparency and accountability. The 'register' can have self filled information on objectives of an organisation, principles followed by it, if any, its funding, partners, and so on....

This is at present just my proposal, but I hope one or more civil society networks in the IG space can own it and push it... CSCG would be well placed to run this project as a neutral space so that there is no accusation of bias that any such initiative is being employed for partisan purposes. In any case, a simple initiative for openness, transparency and accountability can hardly be partisan.

The register can have optional higher level features whereby a group/ org can declare its means of public accountability, whether and how its internal governance is done, how matters can be taken by with their oversight bodies, like board etc, and whether they have any means whereby they respond to public question on their work, etc.

For such genuine cases where such transparency can harm an organisations work, or security, such organisations, and only such organisations, can be exempted employing a clear process and set of criteria.

Remember, both the UN report on improvements to the IGF and the NetMundial Statement highlight the issue of transparency. I also recently read in these lists how we should make bridges with the OpenGov movement which is almost wholly about this one thing. Time we begin practising what we preach.

I look forward to hear responses to this proposal..

parminder
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To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits --Apple-Mail=_4F029CA2-58D1-4761-A878-F5AEFBA676A8-- From avri at acm.org Mon May 25 15:48:00 2015 From: avri at acm.org (Avri Doria) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 15:48:00 -0400 Subject: [bestbits] Update on latest IGF MAG mtg. Message-ID: <55637C70.20002@acm.org> (The following is an edited copy of a message I sent to another list. It was suggested that it be forwarded here too. ) Hi, ... the issue with main sessions is still open and a touch confusing. After spending a day and half finding our way to a list of workshops we started on the Main session plan. A quick explanation on how we got to the list of workshops while I am at it. - the top ranked 60 were automatically in. - the next 10 were in unless someone had a reason for them not being in. I think in the end they may have all ended up in, though I am not positive about 1 of them. Will need to check notes and final lists to be sure. - for the next 30, it was a balancing process. Based on the various proportions, e.g. previous organizer : new organizer, or developed nation : developing, same old panel : other format, same old topic : new topic, stakeholder group : other stakeholder groups, &c. MAG members had to champion a session on the balancing perspective ( a blanket acceptance of all sessions being good sessions was made the chair) for it to be considered further. We then went through them in a detailed sort of way trying to balance. It took 2 passes through a list of nominated sessions to come to the 100 selected. The rest of workshop sessions are filled by open fora, dynamic coalitions (DC), best practice fora (BPF), and the intersessional work. We also spent a fair amount of time of micromanaging, deciding whether someone needed 90 minutes, 60 minutes or a flash. ... (re, when the final list will be posted, don't know for sure but expect soon. Secretariat has a lot of work to do in notifications) Re the intersessional work, This is being worked in response to CSTD recommendations on IGF Improvements, there is a an open team of MAG members and others working on this effort (I am one of the coordinators, but have been a passive one). It was slow to get going. At this point the call is coming out in the next day or so. Basically using the working group (WG) concept that is borrowed from many institutions and has been modified for BPF, we will first ● Launch public call for background contributions on the theme of “/Policy Options for Connecting the Next Billion/”. Contributions will be gathered and ultimately incorporated in the output through an iterative process. &c. The call should be out shortly. There was a lunch conversation on the draft. (Latest draft can be found at: ) Re The origin of the main session schedule In terms of main sessions, a self selected ad-hoc subgroup had met during lunch on day 2 and set up a schedule that includes a half day on IGF @ 10 and a full day dedicated to WSIS+10 (3 main session slots). Therefore , when considering pre-session, starting and closing ceremony (3 full session) left, 2 full sessions (4 hemisessions) were left for substantive issues. It seems we were going to invite the President of the General Assembly (PGA) and needed to dedicate that much time to WSIS If the PGA rejects the idea, then we will get 1 thematic session back. Re WSIS session: Part of what is playing out was act 3 in the WSIS Continuation stage. Starting in CSTD (which I did not attend), continuing through the 2 weeks of ITU Council (which I did attend) and coming into IGF was a bit successful but mostly not. ITU wanted to organize a multistakeholder consultation on WSIS but was not allowed to by the members states. So now IGF was being used by those who want a consultation on the future of WSIS. Last stop before NYC. And the largest most diverse of group of participants is to be found in IGF 2015. So if the PGA, it will be Denmark I believe, is willing to come to the IGF for consultations, there will be a full day of consultations in Brazil. Re IGF @ 10 Since the UNGA is going to decide on IGF's continuing fate this year, that seemed necessary to most all of us thought it a reasonable bit of scheduling. Some think it should have more time. Re the remaining 2 main session slots, we were given a list and each given a chance to argue to 2 topics on the list. I am not sure I remember the whole list, but it included - net neutrality - internet economy - human rights - IANA stuff - cybersecurity - ... (couple more i did not write them down, perhaps another participant on this list has the full list) In any case there was a supported recommendation that those sitting in the room should not be deciding this on our own and that we should poll the community. In the end the chair decided those of us in the MAG that championed a particular theme should work on a brief description and we should put them out for discussion. I may think of more, but this is it for pre-breakfast mind-dump on a holiday morning of a day when I have a paper to finish a draft of. Happy to answer questions if I can. avri ---- Funding disclosure specifically for BB: This trip to GVA for ITU Council was paid for by a combination of my air miles and shared support from 3 Civil Society advocacy groups to whom I give updates and reports on ITU activities concerning ITU CWG WSIS and ITU CWG IPP. I piggybacked the MAG meeting on the ITU trip. I participated in the ITU Council activities as a member of the US delegation. I participate in the MAG meeting as a first year appointee suggested by civil society coordination group. My ITU time is not paid for. I do not get support for participating in the MAG. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com From susan at chalmers.associates Mon May 25 16:18:37 2015 From: susan at chalmers.associates (Susan Chalmers) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 16:18:37 -0400 Subject: [bestbits] Update on latest IGF MAG mtg. In-Reply-To: <55637C70.20002@acm.org> References: <55637C70.20002@acm.org> Message-ID: Dear Avri, all, Avri, thanks for this excellent update. Very briefly - on the last point Avri made - I wanted to let everyone know that I am proposing a main session to focus on zero-rating and the various aspects of this issue. The community, through submitted workshop proposals, expressed great interest in the issue. There were no less than eight proposals that either focused mainly on zero-rating or included it as a topic for discussion. The zero-rating question is challenging policymakers the world over, and for good reason: it's a really hard topic! I will propose a main session that includes all sides of the issue, including zero-rated content providers, ISPs who zero-rate, end users from developed and developing countries, competition experts, freedom of expression advocates, and other suggested parties to map out this very important public policy issue, in public at the IGF. We have only 10 days from May 22nd to submit a 250-word proposal - so June 1st as I see it (to be confirmed with the Chair). If you'd like to contribute edits to the proposal, please contact me off list and I will share the Google doc. Warm regards, Susan Susan Chalmers susan at chalmers.associates *CHALMERS* & ASSOCIATES http://chalmers.associates On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Avri Doria wrote: > (The following is an edited copy of a message I sent to another list. It > was suggested that it be forwarded here too. ) > > Hi, > > ... the issue with main sessions is still open and a touch confusing. > After spending a day and half finding our way to a list of workshops we > started on the Main session plan. A quick explanation on how we got to > the list of workshops while I am at it. > > - the top ranked 60 were automatically in. > - the next 10 were in unless someone had a reason for them not being > in. I think in the end they may have all ended up in, though I am not > positive about 1 of them. Will need to check notes and final lists to > be sure. > - for the next 30, it was a balancing process. Based on the various > proportions, e.g. previous organizer : new organizer, or developed > nation : developing, same old panel : other format, same old topic : new > topic, stakeholder group : other stakeholder groups, &c. MAG members had > to champion a session on the balancing perspective ( a blanket > acceptance of all sessions being good sessions was made the chair) > for it to be considered further. We then went through them in a > detailed sort of way trying to balance. It took 2 passes through a list > of nominated sessions to come to the 100 selected. The rest of workshop > sessions are filled by open fora, dynamic coalitions (DC), best practice > fora (BPF), and the intersessional work. > > We also spent a fair amount of time of micromanaging, deciding whether > someone needed 90 minutes, 60 minutes or a flash. ... > > (re, when the final list will be posted, don't know for sure but expect > soon. Secretariat has a lot of work to do in notifications) > > Re the intersessional work, > > This is being worked in response to CSTD recommendations on IGF > Improvements, there is a an open team of MAG members and others working > on this effort (I am one of the coordinators, but have been a passive > one). It was slow to get going. At this point the call is > coming out in the next day or so. Basically using the working group > (WG) concept that is borrowed from many institutions and has been > modified for BPF, we will first > > ● Launch public call for background contributions on the theme of > “/Policy Options for Connecting the Next Billion/”. Contributions will > be gathered and ultimately incorporated in the output through an > iterative process. > > &c. > > The call should be out shortly. > There was a lunch conversation on the draft. > (Latest draft can be found at: > < > http://intgovforum.org/pipermail/intersessional_2015_intgovforum.org/2015-May/000094.html > >) > > Re The origin of the main session schedule > > In terms of main sessions, a self selected ad-hoc subgroup had met > during lunch on day 2 and set up a schedule that includes a half day on > IGF @ 10 and a full day dedicated to WSIS+10 (3 main session slots). > Therefore , when considering pre-session, starting and closing ceremony > (3 full session) left, 2 full sessions (4 hemisessions) were left for > substantive issues. > > It seems we were going to invite the President of the General Assembly > (PGA) and needed to dedicate that much time to WSIS If the PGA rejects > the idea, then we will get 1 thematic session back. > > > Re WSIS session: > > Part of what is playing out was act 3 in the WSIS Continuation stage. > Starting in CSTD (which I did not attend), continuing through the 2 > weeks of ITU Council (which I did attend) and coming into IGF was > a bit successful but mostly not. ITU wanted to organize a > multistakeholder consultation on WSIS but was not allowed to by the > members states. So now IGF was being used by those who want a > consultation on the future of WSIS. Last stop before NYC. And the > largest most diverse of group of participants is to be found in IGF 2015. > So if the PGA, it will be Denmark I believe, is willing to come to the > IGF for consultations, there will be a full day of consultations in Brazil. > > Re IGF @ 10 > > Since the UNGA is going to decide on IGF's continuing fate this year, > that seemed necessary to most all of us thought it a reasonable bit of > scheduling. Some think it should have more time. > > Re the remaining 2 main session slots, we were given a list and each > given a chance to argue to 2 topics on the list. I am not sure I > remember the whole list, but it included > > - net neutrality > - internet economy > - human rights > - IANA stuff > - cybersecurity > - ... (couple more i did not write them down, perhaps another > participant on this list has the full list) > > > In any case there was a supported recommendation that those sitting in > the room should not be deciding this on our own and that we should poll > the community. In the end the chair decided those of us in the MAG > that championed a particular theme should work on a brief description > and we should put them out for discussion. > > I may think of more, but this is it for pre-breakfast mind-dump on a > holiday morning of a day when I have a paper to finish a draft of. > Happy to answer questions if I can. > > avri > > ---- > > Funding disclosure specifically for BB: This trip to GVA for ITU Council > was paid for by a combination of my air miles and shared support from 3 > Civil Society advocacy groups to whom I give updates and reports on ITU > activities concerning ITU CWG WSIS and ITU CWG IPP. I piggybacked the > MAG meeting on the ITU trip. 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Voices in Parliament; a brief study of a successful All-Party Parliamentary Group www.oneworldtrust.org/publications/doc_view/195-appgwg-and-owt-history?tmpl=component&format=raw Dear parminder, never i thought, that there comes a positive answer like from you. You have to read this text. Then you understand, that the interest and intention of this organisation is very different of that of you. I hope that. With "accountability" we have the same situation like with the routing of our data packets. If you create a system, where the necessarity of "Governace" or "Accountability" is a design principle, then the "Civil Society", the people, lost. The perspective of a "One World", a "New World Order", a "Super Government" or any other shit, is a moving of representative systems to a single center. Not important, where. Wall Street, City of London or any. Like in all representative systems, the people have no trust. Because the reality is very different to the representative theater. This make the propaganda to "accountability" necessary. You start tour life in India. Or not? Therefore, you know the lies of the British elites and occupiers. We speak about self organizing, self determination, if we speak about Civil Society. many greetings, willi Buenos Aires, Argentina Am 25/05/2015 um 02:27 a.m. schrieb parminder: (in BestBit) > Dear Becky/ All > > Good to see a substantive discussion begin on this important topic. > > Hope the list can sustain such a discussion to come up with a > transparency and accountability framework that is best for the IG civil > society. > > The four principles in the cited document look good to me - > transparency, participation, evaluation, and complaint and response > mechanisms. > > Look forward to a good discussion on this list, and BB's steering > committee's response to the proposal. > > I am also seeking a discussion on the JNC list, and will also request a > formal response from the JNC. > > Best, parminder > > > > On Sunday 24 May 2015 09:14 PM, Becky Lentz wrote: (in BestBit) >> Dear BB and JNC colleagues, >> >> Reading BB list posts over the past two days re the tension/debate about >> accountability feels toxic/uncivil (at least to this reader anyway), >> unless that recurring conversation can actually Œgo somewhere¹ beyond >> periodic disagreements about what is/isn¹t civil society and what >> transparency and representation ought to mean, or doesn't mean, to various >> participants. What is remarkable, imho, is how BB has managed to find ways >> to work together when it is strategically useful to do so despite all of >> the obstacles to collaboration that clearly exist: the elephant in the >> room. Yet, while that doesn¹t seem problematic to some, it does to others >> if they are seeking to change the very values/principles that drive the >> work itself. >> >> For what it¹s worth (knowing that those with longer histories doing this >> kind of work most likely have encountered such tools as well as critiques >> of them), here are some links that might be considered by BB¹s executive >> committee, and for that matter, the JNC¹s leaders, if either is >> potentially interested in taking its own model of collaboration to another >> level in the IG/digital rights field and beyond. In fact, the IG/digital >> rights field could take on actually providing other fields with a model of >> how to navigate these tensions, if addressing Œthe elephant in the room¹ >> were also considered an equally important Œpart of the work¹ alongside the >> very necessary research/advocacy/organizing work already going on. >> >> The tools in this resource uphold four accountability principles. >> Implemented at various key institutional and research processes, they aim >> to improve accountability relations between organisations and their >> stakeholders: http://www.oneworldtrust.org/apro/about and >> http://www.oneworldtrust.org/apro/about/using_the_tools. >> >> This may also be of interest 'Does it matter Who Funds You?¹ >> http://www.oneworldtrust.org/blog/?p=579 >> >> Becky Lentz >> McGill University >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > From jmalcolm at eff.org Tue May 26 17:10:37 2015 From: jmalcolm at eff.org (Jeremy Malcolm) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 14:10:37 -0700 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Civil society transparency In-Reply-To: References: <55617E51.5010901@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <5564E14D.9000203@eff.org> On 24/05/2015 11:57 pm, Ian Peter wrote: > Secondly, I wonder how it would work in CS which has so many people > who are basically acting as individuals rather than representatives of > organisations. Many if not most of us also have non CS affiliations > (eg membership of ISOC, business or governmental employees if we are > cs volunteers, academic postings etc) so the “pure” CS rep is probably > a bit hard to find. I am not sure what we would gain by having a > register of all our multiple affiliations which would need regular > updating to be of any use. I think we need to ensure our major > coalitions (BB, JNC, IGC, APC, NCSG) act transparently, and by and > large I think they do. But I am not sure of the value of extending > this to what is probably tens of thousands of members or organisations > affiliated with these larger groups. Agreed. I also feel that it's a misplaced priority. If any of us actually had enough influence to being making significant impacts on policy, then the expenditure of time and resources on self-policing ourselves in this fashion might make some sense. But since we have enough difficulty as it is just with being heard, let alone having an impact, it just seems a real misallocation of scarce resources for us to be placing ourselves under the microscope like this, especially since nobody but ourselves is raising the question. Instead of a register, there are already voluntary transparency pledges that one can adopt (eg the INGO Accountability Charter, http://www.ingoaccountabilitycharter.org/). Anything heavier than that is, I feel, difficult to justify. Also, take note of this article (from the left, by the way), criticising efforts to enforce formal accountability standards on civil society organisations: http://hapinternational.org/pool/files/ngos,-civil-soc.pdf -- Jeremy Malcolm Senior Global Policy Analyst Electronic Frontier Foundation https://eff.org jmalcolm at eff.org Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161 :: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World :: Public key: https://www.eff.org/files/2014/10/09/key_jmalcolm.txt PGP fingerprint: FF13 C2E9 F9C3 DF54 7C4F EAC1 F675 AAE2 D2AB 2220 OTR fingerprint: 26EE FD85 3740 8228 9460 49A8 536F BCD2 536F A5BD Learn how to encrypt your email with the Email Self Defense guide: https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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A quick > > explanation on how we got to the list of workshops while I am at it. > > > > - the top ranked 60 were automatically in. > > - the next 10 were in unless someone had a reason for them not being > > in. I think in the end they may have all ended up in, though I am > > not positive about 1 of them. Will need to check notes and final > > lists to be sure. > > - for the next 30, it was a balancing process. Based on the various > > proportions, e.g. previous organizer : new organizer, or developed > > nation : developing, same old panel : other format, same old > > topic : new topic, stakeholder group : other stakeholder groups, > > &c. MAG members had to champion a session on the balancing > > perspective ( a blanket acceptance of all sessions being good > > sessions was made the chair) for it to be considered further. We > > then went through them in a detailed sort of way trying to > > balance. It took 2 passes through a list of nominated sessions to > > come to the 100 selected. The rest of workshop sessions are filled > > by open fora, dynamic coalitions (DC), best practice fora (BPF), > > and the intersessional work. > > > > We also spent a fair amount of time of micromanaging, deciding > > whether someone needed 90 minutes, 60 minutes or a flash. ... > > > > (re, when the final list will be posted, don't know for sure but > > expect soon. Secretariat has a lot of work to do in notifications) > > > > Re the intersessional work, > > > > This is being worked in response to CSTD recommendations on IGF > > Improvements, there is a an open team of MAG members and others > > working on this effort (I am one of the coordinators, but have been > > a passive one). It was slow to get going. At this point the call > > is coming out in the next day or so. Basically using the working > > group (WG) concept that is borrowed from many institutions and has > > been modified for BPF, we will first > > > > ● Launch public call for background contributions on the theme > > of “/Policy Options for Connecting the Next Billion/”. > > Contributions will be gathered and ultimately incorporated in the > > output through an iterative process. > > > > &c. > > > > The call should be out shortly. > > There was a lunch conversation on the draft. > > (Latest draft can be found at: > > < > > http://intgovforum.org/pipermail/intersessional_2015_intgovforum.org/2015-May/000094.html > > >) > > > > Re The origin of the main session schedule > > > > In terms of main sessions, a self selected ad-hoc subgroup had met > > during lunch on day 2 and set up a schedule that includes a half > > day on IGF @ 10 and a full day dedicated to WSIS+10 (3 main > > session slots). Therefore , when considering pre-session, starting > > and closing ceremony (3 full session) left, 2 full sessions (4 > > hemisessions) were left for substantive issues. > > > > It seems we were going to invite the President of the General > > Assembly (PGA) and needed to dedicate that much time to WSIS If > > the PGA rejects the idea, then we will get 1 thematic session back. > > > > > > Re WSIS session: > > > > Part of what is playing out was act 3 in the WSIS Continuation > > stage. Starting in CSTD (which I did not attend), continuing > > through the 2 weeks of ITU Council (which I did attend) and coming > > into IGF was a bit successful but mostly not. ITU wanted to > > organize a multistakeholder consultation on WSIS but was not > > allowed to by the members states. So now IGF was being used by > > those who want a consultation on the future of WSIS. Last stop > > before NYC. And the largest most diverse of group of participants > > is to be found in IGF 2015. So if the PGA, it will be Denmark I > > believe, is willing to come to the IGF for consultations, there > > will be a full day of consultations in Brazil. > > > > Re IGF @ 10 > > > > Since the UNGA is going to decide on IGF's continuing fate this > > year, that seemed necessary to most all of us thought it a > > reasonable bit of scheduling. Some think it should have more time. > > > > Re the remaining 2 main session slots, we were given a list and > > each given a chance to argue to 2 topics on the list. I am not > > sure I remember the whole list, but it included > > > > - net neutrality > > - internet economy > > - human rights > > - IANA stuff > > - cybersecurity > > - ... (couple more i did not write them down, perhaps another > > participant on this list has the full list) > > > > > > In any case there was a supported recommendation that those sitting > > in the room should not be deciding this on our own and that we > > should poll the community. In the end the chair decided those of > > us in the MAG that championed a particular theme should work on a > > brief description and we should put them out for discussion. > > > > I may think of more, but this is it for pre-breakfast mind-dump on a > > holiday morning of a day when I have a paper to finish a draft of. > > Happy to answer questions if I can. > > > > avri > > > > ---- > > > > Funding disclosure specifically for BB: This trip to GVA for ITU > > Council was paid for by a combination of my air miles and shared > > support from 3 Civil Society advocacy groups to whom I give updates > > and reports on ITU activities concerning ITU CWG WSIS and ITU CWG > > IPP. I piggybacked the MAG meeting on the ITU trip. I participated > > in the ITU Council activities as a member of the US delegation. I > > participate in the MAG meeting as a first year appointee suggested > > by civil society coordination group. My ITU time is not paid for. I > > do not get support for participating in the MAG. > > > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > http://www.avast.com > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > From carolina.rossini at gmail.com Wed May 27 13:44:09 2015 From: carolina.rossini at gmail.com (Carolina Rossini) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 13:44:09 -0400 Subject: [bestbits] Demystifying the Onion Router: GV Face Tomorrow with Tor (part of a new Advox series) Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mahsa Alimardani Date: Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:20 PM Subject: [gvadvocacy] Demystifying the Onion Router: GV Face Tomorrow with Tor (part of a new Advox series) Dear All, As part of a new series, Advocacy is starting conversations with technical security and circumvention experts. Our goals is to help the community better understand how these tools work, and how we can use them. The subject on our agenda are the tools associated with the *Tor Project *. Join us tomorrow at 12pm ET/ 6pm CET. The hangout is happening here , and you are all invited to join, and participate through online questions. Here's a bit about the conversation, and Tor: *What exactly is the Tor network? Tor enables citizens to bypass government censorship and allows dissidents to communicate anonymously. Sometimes however, it has been used by criminals for nefarious activities, such as selling drugs or distributing child pornography. The network also facilitates special sites that allow website owners and their users to remain anonymous through “hidden services”. This has become popularly known as the “dark web”.How does it work? The Tor network is a collection of servers located across the world. The network helps users connect to the Internet anonymously by sending traffic between at least three Tor servers before allowing it to reach its destination. This makes it nearly impossible for anyone monitoring the Internet to understand where the traffic is coming from and where it is going. Tor “exit nodes” are the final set of servers used in the connection process. This is where a user’s traffic exits the Tor network and connects to the world wide web. These nodes are set up by volunteers, with a few organisations who maintain larger exits, including universities and individual activists.In order to better understand the tool, its uses, and its controversies, Global Voices’ Iran editor Mahsa Alimardani will talk with Iranian Tor developer Nima Fatemi and Tor’s head of communications, activist Kate Krauss.* Warmly, Mahsa -- Mahsa Alimardani | Twitter: maasalan | Amsterdam, Netherlands -- *Carolina Rossini * *Vice President, International Policy* *Public Knowledge* *http://www.publicknowledge.org/ * + 1 6176979389 | skype: carolrossini | @carolinarossini -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From anriette at apc.org Wed May 27 15:54:28 2015 From: anriette at apc.org (Anriette Esterhuysen) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 21:54:28 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] =?UTF-8?Q?South_Africa_FPB=E2=80=99s_Draft_Online_Regu?= =?UTF-8?Q?lations_Policy_Public_Hearing?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <556620F4.6020606@apc.org> Dear all Attached is an invitation to a public meeting convened by local groups and APC on proposed online content regulation in South Africa. Rigth2Know Campaign has a petition on these draft regulations and you can read more about regulations the on APC.org here and copied below: https://www.apc.org/en/news/apc-opposes-internet-content-regulation-proposed-s The purpose of the regulation is so-called child safety, but the regulations are much broader in scope and actually impossible to comply with. One positive outcome of this has been the mobilisation of local civil society - it has been really fantastic. Right2Know has a petition out, but many others - not only those listed in the invite attached are taking action. Particular credit should go to the SOS coalition which is the local 'Save our public broadcaster' coalition and the Freedom of Expression Institute who have worked with us on organising local meetings. We are pursuing a dual strategy with civil society having a coordinated campaign, as well as making individual submissions on the draft regulation, but we are also writing a joint statement with internet service providers and local and international internet and telecoms companies and small/medium internet content businesses who will all be affected by this. We are also calling on people who work on children's rights to oppose these regulations as we don't believe they will achieve the stated objective of online child safety. Your support would be valued - the Rigth2Know petition is here: https://www.change.org/p/film-and-publications-board-stop-the-internet-censorship Anriette APC joins South African civil society groups in opposing internet content regulation proposed by South Africa's Film and Publication Board If implemented, the Draft Online Regulation Policy proposed by the South African Film and Publication Board (FPB) would, under the guise of child protection, pose serious threats to online freedom of expression. It would involve policing content published on the internet – including blogs, personal websites and Facebook pages. APC joins the many South African civil society and broader communications sector voices that are expressing their concern about the proposed regulations. Under the Draft Online Regulation Policy, the Film and Publication Board would have the power to "refer any self-generated video that is found to contain classifiable elements for classification to its classification committee, instruct the distributor to take down the unclassified content and only reinstate it after having complied with the FPB classification decision." This is tantamount to giving the Film and Publication Board the power to effectively censor any Facebook post, Twitter “tweet”, YouTube video, or any other user-generated internet content created by any South African. Aside from the fact that this power would be open to abuse – for example, for censoring political speech, or censoring content created for the purpose of sex education or promoting the interests of LGBT groups – it would be impossible to ensure compliance with the policy. It would place additional burdens on all internet users and intermediaries (companies and organisations that host internet content), particularly small and medium enterprises. At a sector meeting convened by the Association for Progressive Communications (APC), the SOS Coalition, the Right2Know (R2K) Campaign and the Freedom of Expression Institute (FXI) on Friday 22 May in Johannesburg, there was consensus that the draft regulation policy must be scrapped. The participating civil society groups, media organisations, library associations and internet and telecommunications industry associations all agreed that the proposed regulations pose a serious threat not just to online freedom of expression and association, but also to local internet-based innovation, content development and job creation. Child safety, one of the primary objectives of the proposed regulations, is very important. However, there are other more effective strategies and mechanisms to ensure the protection of children in the online environment that do not require pre-publication censorship. The internet can be a powerful tool in protecting children from harm. Should the proposed draft regulations be adopted, we would be creating an internet which children cannot fully utilise to protect themselves from harm, both online and offline. The question of values in the draft regulations is particularly problematic. We must be careful that the values used in imposing internet control in children's so-called best interests do not end up fundamentally depriving children of all sorts of rights that should be available to them. Children have, for example, the right to information: this includes information about relationships, sexual orientation, safe sex, sexual abuse, and a whole range of topics involving sex. Content that may be useful to children dealing with sexual orientation, the challenges of puberty, love, longing and abuse could easily become the target of the regulations. Join us in rejecting these regulations by supporting the Right2Know petition at www.r2k.org.za/HandsOffOurInternet! and by submitting your own comments to the FPB. Submissions should be emailed to policy.submissions at fpb.org.za or hand delivered to the FPB head office at ECO Glade 2, 420 Witch Hazel Street, ECO Park, Centurion, 0169 and marked for attention Ms. Tholoana Ncheke. The next public meeting convened by APC, R2K, SOS and FXI will take place on 28 May at Civicus House in Newtown at 13h30. After the meeting, participants will move on to the public consultation convened by the Film and Publication Board: Venue: Turbine Hall Newtown, 65 Ntemi Piliso Street, Johannesburg Date: 28 May 2015 Time: 17h00-19h00 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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With a simple time based correlation you can see the traffic outside of the TOR network. The way from the client to the network and from the network to the server and reverse. Then you know, who communicate and with what. Nearly 80% of all this "anonymisation" are open today. many greetings, willi Buenos Aires, Argentina Am 27/05/2015 um 14:44 schrieb Carolina Rossini: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Mahsa Alimardani > Date: Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:20 PM > Subject: [gvadvocacy] Demystifying the Onion Router: GV Face Tomorrow with > Tor (part of a new Advox series) > > Dear All, > > As part of a new series, Advocacy is starting conversations with technical > security and circumvention experts. Our goals is to help the community > better understand how these tools work, and how we can use them. The > subject on our agenda are the tools associated with the *Tor Project > *. > > Join us tomorrow at 12pm ET/ 6pm CET. The hangout is happening here > , and you are > all invited to join, and participate through online questions. > > Here's a bit about the conversation, and Tor: > > *What exactly is the Tor network? Tor enables citizens to bypass government > censorship and allows dissidents to communicate anonymously. Sometimes > however, it has been used by criminals for nefarious activities, such as > selling drugs or distributing child pornography. The network also > facilitates special sites that allow website owners and their users to > remain anonymous through “hidden services”. This has become popularly known > as the “dark web”.How does it work? The Tor network is a collection of > servers located across the world. The network helps users connect to the > Internet anonymously by sending traffic between at least three Tor servers > before allowing it to reach its destination. This makes it nearly > impossible for anyone monitoring the Internet to understand where the > traffic is coming from and where it is going. Tor “exit nodes” are the > final set of servers used in the connection process. This is where a user’s > traffic exits the Tor network and connects to the world wide web. These > nodes are set up by volunteers, with a few organisations who maintain > larger exits, including universities and individual activists.In order to > better understand the tool, its uses, and its controversies, Global Voices’ > Iran editor Mahsa Alimardani will talk with Iranian Tor developer Nima > Fatemi and Tor’s head of communications, activist Kate Krauss.* > > Warmly, > Mahsa From sheetal at gp-digital.org Thu May 28 06:25:16 2015 From: sheetal at gp-digital.org (Sheetal Kumar) Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 12:25:16 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] WSIS+10 review info-sharing session on 28 May at WSIS forum - remote participation available In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear all, The link for online participation for the info-sharing event on the WSIS+10 review process at the WSIS forum today is below: https://meetings.webex.com/collabs/#/meetings/detail?uuid=M0COY7LBN637BMCGEM0HY6RJKB-IQO5&rnd=192776.12721 Best, Sheetal. On 26 May 2015 at 17:46, Sheetal Kumar wrote: > Hi all, > > This is just to share details on an information-sharing event on the > WSIS+10 review process, taking place this Thursday at the WSIS Forum. > > Remote participation and a recording of the event will be available. The > invitation with more information is attached in case of interest. > > Registration is via the dedicated event page: > http://www.giplatform.org/events/way-forward-wsis10-review-process > > Best wishes, > -- > *Sheetal Kumar* > Programme Manager | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL > Development House, 56–64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT > T: +44 (0)20 7549 0337 | M: +44 (0)7739569514 > <%2B44%20%280%297852%20535222> | > -- *Sheetal Kumar* Programme Manager | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL Development House, 56–64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT T: +44 (0)20 7549 0337 | M: +44 (0)7739569514 <%2B44%20%280%297852%20535222> | -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anja at internetdemocracy.in Thu May 28 06:32:54 2015 From: anja at internetdemocracy.in (Anja Kovacs) Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 16:02:54 +0530 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: <20150524125901.0f0b8b23@quill> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> <555B3194.6020509@itforchange.net> <555B6A0A.7000504@eff.org> <555B7D35.2030303@apc.org> <55602D1A.3070009@itforchange.net> <9941F756-12FA-4722-AE25-D40C8EB8E7B1@derechosdigitales.org> <080EAD77-A6DB-4916-BFA3-665A2B2C6385@consensus.pro> <5560B7BC.3020507@itforchange.net> <14d81e52e30.27d1.9387b8a9f30986f905fcc4cfa238b71f@consensus.pro> <5560C4A1.6010306@itforchange.net> <14d8210ca40.2758.9387b8a9f30986f905fcc4cfa238b71f@consensus.pro> <55617692.20204@itforchange.net> <20150524125901.0f0b8b23@quill> Message-ID: Dear Parminder, My apologies for coming to this thread late, as well as for completely having missed your earlier message regarding the APrIGF call for workshops that I posted. I'm still struggling to find that message on my phone right now, but let me say that I, like others, always presumed that the reference to 'multistakeholder perspective' in that call refers to the structure of the workshop, not the content. That is in any case the assumption on which I have worked (though I was in no way involved in drafting this call). Regards, Anja On May 24, 2015 4:29 PM, "Norbert Bollow" wrote: > On Sun, 24 May 2015 12:28:26 +0530 > parminder wrote: > > > > Life's too short. > > > > > Not to be upfront, transparent and honest! That is what civil society > > has to be about. > > Certainly life is too short to waste it on building civil society > bodies only to discover afterwards that there was undisclosed, undue > influence from representatives of particular interests. > > I wholeheartedly agree with Parminder here. > > Greetings, > Norbert > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From parminder at itforchange.net Thu May 28 07:39:54 2015 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 17:09:54 +0530 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Civil society transparency In-Reply-To: References: <55617E51.5010901@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <5566FE8A.9010209@itforchange.net> Thanks Ian Responding to the two issues you raise. On Monday 25 May 2015 12:27 PM, Ian Peter wrote: > Hi Parminder, > > Two issues in response to your suggestion. > > Firstly, the suggestion that CSCG do this. CSCG consists of five > people who are pretty busy co-ordinating coalitions of CS > organisations (BB, JNC, IGC, APC, NCSG) and myself as an independent > chair. The role of CSCG is to ensure a co-ordinated civil society > response and conduit when it comes to making civil society > appointments to outside organisations. It has no staff, no funding, > not even a formal charter. In order to address some of the issues it > faces I have suggested from time to time that the membership be > expanded to include say 3 more respected civil society people who are > not formal representatives of coalitions of CS organisations. The last > time I suggested this it was met with some strongly worded negative > responses from JNC and I have not heard of any change of position on > this. So for these reasons I don’t think CSCG is the right > organisation to take on this task. Perhaps IGC? I suggested CSCG bec it has reps from major CS networks and so there was a common ownership over what should be a commonly owned and directed initiative so that there is scope of bias, and appropriate avenues of recourse exist. I still think CSCG the right body for it, but IGC would do as well. As for resources, let me make this blind offer, I will try and raise resources for one person devoting her half/ quarter time, who can be housed in a reputed org with a neutral image, for this purpose. More resources are needed initially for setting it up, but once set up it wont require much. I still do not know from where id seek resources but I am confident that with so much funds coming into the IG space someone somewhere would give a few thousand dollars for overall transparency and accountability in the sector. That should address and settle the resources argument in terms of my proposal. > > Secondly, I wonder how it would work in CS which has so many people > who are basically acting as individuals rather than representatives of > organisations. Many if not most of us also have non CS affiliations > (eg membership of ISOC, business or governmental employees if we are > cs volunteers, academic postings etc) so the “pure” CS rep is probably > a bit hard to find. I am not sure what we would gain by having a > register of all our multiple affiliations which would need regular > updating to be of any use. I think we need to ensure our major > coalitions (BB, JNC, IGC, APC, NCSG) act transparently, and by and > large I think they do. But I am not sure of the value of extending > this to what is probably tens of thousands of members or organisations > affiliated with these larger groups. Almost all CS transparency and accountability initiatives are focussed on organisations and not individuals, bec of the obvious reasons that the former have a greater role and impact. One may not need such processes for individuals, other than perhaps when any nominations or appointments are being on behalf of civil society , in which case anyone would agree that some basic declarations should in any case be necessary, and such simple and basic decelerations alone are what my proposed initiative asks for. > > Over to others to discuss. I am not opposed to the suggestion that > something be done in this area, but I think we need to refine any > such idea somewhat, Please give suggestions. > and if the aim is somehow to enhance CS credibility and transparency > in this space, perhaps we should also discuss what other measures > might also assist this. And for this as well. Thanks again. parminder > > Ian Peter > > *From:* parminder > *Sent:* Sunday, May 24, 2015 3:31 PM > *To:* Ian Peter ; > governance at lists.igcaucus.org ; > BestBitsList ; > mailto:forum at justnetcoalition.org ; A general information sharing > space for the APC Community. > *Subject:* [governance] Civil society transparency > > Ian, and reps of civil society networks on the Civil Society > Coordination Group (CSCG) , > > I propose that CSCG sets up a civil society transparency project, > somewhat on the lines of the EU Transparency Register, pl see > http://ec.europa.eu/transparencyregister/public/homePage.do . > > It should in fact go beyond the EU initiative which is a general one > for all lobbying groups, whereas we here are concerned with civil > society which should set the highest example of transparency and > accountability. The 'register' can have self filled information on > objectives of an organisation, principles followed by it, if any, its > funding, partners, and so on.... > > This is at present just my proposal, but I hope one or more civil > society networks in the IG space can own it and push it... CSCG would > be well placed to run this project as a neutral space so that there is > no accusation of bias that any such initiative is being employed for > partisan purposes. In any case, a simple initiative for openness, > transparency and accountability can hardly be partisan. > > The register can have optional higher level features whereby a group/ > org can declare its means of public accountability, whether and how > its internal governance is done, how matters can be taken by with > their oversight bodies, like board etc, and whether they have any > means whereby they respond to public question on their work, etc. > > For such genuine cases where such transparency can harm an > organisations work, or security, such organisations, and only such > organisations, can be exempted employing a clear process and set of > criteria. > > Remember, both the UN report on improvements to the IGF and the > NetMundial Statement highlight the issue of transparency. I also > recently read in these lists how we should make bridges with the > OpenGov movement which is almost wholly about this one thing. Time we > begin practising what we preach. > > I look forward to hear responses to this proposal.. > > parminder > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmalcolm at eff.org Thu May 28 21:41:20 2015 From: jmalcolm at eff.org (Jeremy Malcolm) Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 18:41:20 -0700 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Civil society transparency In-Reply-To: <5566FE8A.9010209@itforchange.net> References: <55617E51.5010901@itforchange.net> <5566FE8A.9010209@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <685563FB-947F-4110-8B81-3872514B494C@eff.org> Replying just to the IGC list in respect of the suggestion that the IGC could host this McCarthy Committee on civil society funding and transparency, I doubt that there is any consensus that it should do this, and the IGC cannot act in its absence. I for one cannot imagine a scenario in which this would not do much more harm than good. There had already been much negative fallout from JNC members interrogating others on this list and the Best Bits lists by about their funding and demanding they take particular accountability and transparency measures. We could not withstand another such inquisition without a foundation of mutual trust and respect, which frankly will take much time to rebuild, beginning with an adjustment in attitude from the inquisitioners. -- Jeremy Malcolm Senior Global Policy Analyst Electronic Frontier Foundation https://eff.org jmalcolm at eff.org Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161 :: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World :: > On May 28, 2015, at 4:39 AM, parminder wrote: > > Thanks Ian > > Responding to the two issues you raise. > >> On Monday 25 May 2015 12:27 PM, Ian Peter wrote: >> Hi Parminder, >> >> Two issues in response to your suggestion. >> >> Firstly, the suggestion that CSCG do this. CSCG consists of five people who are pretty busy co-ordinating coalitions of CS organisations (BB, JNC, IGC, APC, NCSG) and myself as an independent chair. The role of CSCG is to ensure a co-ordinated civil society response and conduit when it comes to making civil society appointments to outside organisations. It has no staff, no funding, not even a formal charter. In order to address some of the issues it faces I have suggested from time to time that the membership be expanded to include say 3 more respected civil society people who are not formal representatives of coalitions of CS organisations. The last time I suggested this it was met with some strongly worded negative responses from JNC and I have not heard of any change of position on this. So for these reasons I don’t think CSCG is the right organisation to take on this task. Perhaps IGC? > > I suggested CSCG bec it has reps from major CS networks and so there was a common ownership over what should be a commonly owned and directed initiative so that there is scope of bias, and appropriate avenues of recourse exist. I still think CSCG the right body for it, but IGC would do as well. As for resources, let me make this blind offer, I will try and raise resources for one person devoting her half/ quarter time, who can be housed in a reputed org with a neutral image, for this purpose. More resources are needed initially for setting it up, but once set up it wont require much. I still do not know from where id seek resources but I am confident that with so much funds coming into the IG space someone somewhere would give a few thousand dollars for overall transparency and accountability in the sector. That should address and settle the resources argument in terms of my proposal. > >> >> Secondly, I wonder how it would work in CS which has so many people who are basically acting as individuals rather than representatives of organisations. Many if not most of us also have non CS affiliations (eg membership of ISOC, business or governmental employees if we are cs volunteers, academic postings etc) so the “pure” CS rep is probably a bit hard to find. I am not sure what we would gain by having a register of all our multiple affiliations which would need regular updating to be of any use. I think we need to ensure our major coalitions (BB, JNC, IGC, APC, NCSG) act transparently, and by and large I think they do. But I am not sure of the value of extending this to what is probably tens of thousands of members or organisations affiliated with these larger groups. > > Almost all CS transparency and accountability initiatives are focussed on organisations and not individuals, bec of the obvious reasons that the former have a greater role and impact. One may not need such processes for individuals, other than perhaps when any nominations or appointments are being on behalf of civil society , in which case anyone would agree that some basic declarations should in any case be necessary, and such simple and basic decelerations alone are what my proposed initiative asks for. > >> >> Over to others to discuss. I am not opposed to the suggestion that something be done in this area, but I think we need to refine any such idea somewhat, > > Please give suggestions. > >> and if the aim is somehow to enhance CS credibility and transparency in this space, perhaps we should also discuss what other measures might also assist this. > > And for this as well. > > Thanks again. parminder >> >> Ian Peter >> >> From: parminder >> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 3:31 PM >> To: Ian Peter ; governance at lists.igcaucus.org ; BestBitsList ; mailto:forum at justnetcoalition.org ; A general information sharing space for the APC Community. >> Subject: [governance] Civil society transparency >> >> Ian, and reps of civil society networks on the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) , >> >> I propose that CSCG sets up a civil society transparency project, somewhat on the lines of the EU Transparency Register, pl see http://ec.europa.eu/transparencyregister/public/homePage.do . >> >> It should in fact go beyond the EU initiative which is a general one for all lobbying groups, whereas we here are concerned with civil society which should set the highest example of transparency and accountability. The 'register' can have self filled information on objectives of an organisation, principles followed by it, if any, its funding, partners, and so on.... >> >> This is at present just my proposal, but I hope one or more civil society networks in the IG space can own it and push it... CSCG would be well placed to run this project as a neutral space so that there is no accusation of bias that any such initiative is being employed for partisan purposes. In any case, a simple initiative for openness, transparency and accountability can hardly be partisan. >> >> The register can have optional higher level features whereby a group/ org can declare its means of public accountability, whether and how its internal governance is done, how matters can be taken by with their oversight bodies, like board etc, and whether they have any means whereby they respond to public question on their work, etc. >> >> For such genuine cases where such transparency can harm an organisations work, or security, such organisations, and only such organisations, can be exempted employing a clear process and set of criteria. >> >> Remember, both the UN report on improvements to the IGF and the NetMundial Statement highlight the issue of transparency. I also recently read in these lists how we should make bridges with the OpenGov movement which is almost wholly about this one thing. Time we begin practising what we preach. >> >> I look forward to hear responses to this proposal.. >> >> parminder >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at difference.com.au Fri May 29 04:37:31 2015 From: dave at difference.com.au (David Cake) Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 16:37:31 +0800 Subject: [bestbits] Update on latest IGF MAG mtg. In-Reply-To: References: <55637C70.20002@acm.org> Message-ID: I would recommend Pranesh Prakash as a civil society member with interesting things to say on the zero rating topic. David > On 26 May 2015, at 4:18 am, Susan Chalmers wrote: > > Dear Avri, all, > > Avri, thanks for this excellent update. > > Very briefly - on the last point Avri made - I wanted to let everyone know that I am proposing a main session to focus on zero-rating and the various aspects of this issue. The community, through submitted workshop proposals, expressed great interest in the issue. There were no less than eight proposals that either focused mainly on zero-rating or included it as a topic for discussion. The zero-rating question is challenging policymakers the world over, and for good reason: it's a really hard topic! > > I will propose a main session that includes all sides of the issue, including zero-rated content providers, ISPs who zero-rate, end users from developed and developing countries, competition experts, freedom of expression advocates, and other suggested parties to map out this very important public policy issue, in public at the IGF. > > We have only 10 days from May 22nd to submit a 250-word proposal - so June 1st as I see it (to be confirmed with the Chair). If you'd like to contribute edits to the proposal, please contact me off list and I will share the Google doc. > > Warm regards, > Susan > > > > Susan Chalmers > susan at chalmers.associates > > CHALMERS & ASSOCIATES > http://chalmers.associates > On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Avri Doria > wrote: > (The following is an edited copy of a message I sent to another list. It > was suggested that it be forwarded here too. ) > > Hi, > > ... the issue with main sessions is still open and a touch confusing. > After spending a day and half finding our way to a list of workshops we > started on the Main session plan. A quick explanation on how we got to > the list of workshops while I am at it. > > - the top ranked 60 were automatically in. > - the next 10 were in unless someone had a reason for them not being > in. I think in the end they may have all ended up in, though I am not > positive about 1 of them. Will need to check notes and final lists to > be sure. > - for the next 30, it was a balancing process. Based on the various > proportions, e.g. previous organizer : new organizer, or developed > nation : developing, same old panel : other format, same old topic : new > topic, stakeholder group : other stakeholder groups, &c. MAG members had > to champion a session on the balancing perspective ( a blanket > acceptance of all sessions being good sessions was made the chair) > for it to be considered further. We then went through them in a > detailed sort of way trying to balance. It took 2 passes through a list > of nominated sessions to come to the 100 selected. The rest of workshop > sessions are filled by open fora, dynamic coalitions (DC), best practice > fora (BPF), and the intersessional work. > > We also spent a fair amount of time of micromanaging, deciding whether > someone needed 90 minutes, 60 minutes or a flash. ... > > (re, when the final list will be posted, don't know for sure but expect > soon. Secretariat has a lot of work to do in notifications) > > Re the intersessional work, > > This is being worked in response to CSTD recommendations on IGF > Improvements, there is a an open team of MAG members and others working > on this effort (I am one of the coordinators, but have been a passive > one). It was slow to get going. At this point the call is > coming out in the next day or so. Basically using the working group > (WG) concept that is borrowed from many institutions and has been > modified for BPF, we will first > > ● Launch public call for background contributions on the theme of > “/Policy Options for Connecting the Next Billion/”. Contributions will > be gathered and ultimately incorporated in the output through an > iterative process. > > &c. > > The call should be out shortly. > There was a lunch conversation on the draft. > (Latest draft can be found at: > >) > > Re The origin of the main session schedule > > In terms of main sessions, a self selected ad-hoc subgroup had met > during lunch on day 2 and set up a schedule that includes a half day on > IGF @ 10 and a full day dedicated to WSIS+10 (3 main session slots). > Therefore , when considering pre-session, starting and closing ceremony > (3 full session) left, 2 full sessions (4 hemisessions) were left for > substantive issues. > > It seems we were going to invite the President of the General Assembly > (PGA) and needed to dedicate that much time to WSIS If the PGA rejects > the idea, then we will get 1 thematic session back. > > > Re WSIS session: > > Part of what is playing out was act 3 in the WSIS Continuation stage. > Starting in CSTD (which I did not attend), continuing through the 2 > weeks of ITU Council (which I did attend) and coming into IGF was > a bit successful but mostly not. ITU wanted to organize a > multistakeholder consultation on WSIS but was not allowed to by the > members states. So now IGF was being used by those who want a > consultation on the future of WSIS. Last stop before NYC. And the > largest most diverse of group of participants is to be found in IGF 2015. > So if the PGA, it will be Denmark I believe, is willing to come to the > IGF for consultations, there will be a full day of consultations in Brazil. > > Re IGF @ 10 > > Since the UNGA is going to decide on IGF's continuing fate this year, > that seemed necessary to most all of us thought it a reasonable bit of > scheduling. Some think it should have more time. > > Re the remaining 2 main session slots, we were given a list and each > given a chance to argue to 2 topics on the list. I am not sure I > remember the whole list, but it included > > - net neutrality > - internet economy > - human rights > - IANA stuff > - cybersecurity > - ... (couple more i did not write them down, perhaps another > participant on this list has the full list) > > > In any case there was a supported recommendation that those sitting in > the room should not be deciding this on our own and that we should poll > the community. In the end the chair decided those of us in the MAG > that championed a particular theme should work on a brief description > and we should put them out for discussion. > > I may think of more, but this is it for pre-breakfast mind-dump on a > holiday morning of a day when I have a paper to finish a draft of. > Happy to answer questions if I can. > > avri > > ---- > > Funding disclosure specifically for BB: This trip to GVA for ITU Council > was paid for by a combination of my air miles and shared support from 3 > Civil Society advocacy groups to whom I give updates and reports on ITU > activities concerning ITU CWG WSIS and ITU CWG IPP. I piggybacked the > MAG meeting on the ITU trip. I participated in the ITU Council > activities as a member of the US delegation. I participate in the MAG > meeting as a first year appointee suggested by civil society > coordination group. My ITU time is not paid for. I do not get support > for participating in the MAG. > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net . > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sincerely, Susan Susan Chalmers susan at chalmers.associates *CHALMERS* & ASSOCIATES http://chalmers.associates On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 4:37 AM, David Cake wrote: > I would recommend Pranesh Prakash as a civil society member with > interesting things to say on the zero rating topic. > > David > > On 26 May 2015, at 4:18 am, Susan Chalmers > wrote: > > Dear Avri, all, > > Avri, thanks for this excellent update. > > Very briefly - on the last point Avri made - I wanted to let everyone know > that I am proposing a main session to focus on zero-rating and the various > aspects of this issue. The community, through submitted workshop proposals, > expressed great interest in the issue. There were no less than eight > proposals that either focused mainly on zero-rating or included it as a > topic for discussion. The zero-rating question is challenging policymakers > the world over, and for good reason: it's a really hard topic! > > I will propose a main session that includes all sides of the issue, > including zero-rated content providers, ISPs who zero-rate, end users from > developed and developing countries, competition experts, freedom of > expression advocates, and other suggested parties to map out this very > important public policy issue, in public at the IGF. > > We have only 10 days from May 22nd to submit a 250-word proposal - so June > 1st as I see it (to be confirmed with the Chair). If you'd like to > contribute edits to the proposal, please contact me off list and I will > share the Google doc. > > Warm regards, > Susan > > > > Susan Chalmers > susan at chalmers.associates > > *CHALMERS* & ASSOCIATES > http://chalmers.associates > > On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Avri Doria wrote: > >> (The following is an edited copy of a message I sent to another list. It >> was suggested that it be forwarded here too. ) >> >> Hi, >> >> ... the issue with main sessions is still open and a touch confusing. >> After spending a day and half finding our way to a list of workshops we >> started on the Main session plan. A quick explanation on how we got to >> the list of workshops while I am at it. >> >> - the top ranked 60 were automatically in. >> - the next 10 were in unless someone had a reason for them not being >> in. I think in the end they may have all ended up in, though I am not >> positive about 1 of them. Will need to check notes and final lists to >> be sure. >> - for the next 30, it was a balancing process. Based on the various >> proportions, e.g. previous organizer : new organizer, or developed >> nation : developing, same old panel : other format, same old topic : new >> topic, stakeholder group : other stakeholder groups, &c. MAG members had >> to champion a session on the balancing perspective ( a blanket >> acceptance of all sessions being good sessions was made the chair) >> for it to be considered further. We then went through them in a >> detailed sort of way trying to balance. It took 2 passes through a list >> of nominated sessions to come to the 100 selected. The rest of workshop >> sessions are filled by open fora, dynamic coalitions (DC), best practice >> fora (BPF), and the intersessional work. >> >> We also spent a fair amount of time of micromanaging, deciding whether >> someone needed 90 minutes, 60 minutes or a flash. ... >> >> (re, when the final list will be posted, don't know for sure but expect >> soon. Secretariat has a lot of work to do in notifications) >> >> Re the intersessional work, >> >> This is being worked in response to CSTD recommendations on IGF >> Improvements, there is a an open team of MAG members and others working >> on this effort (I am one of the coordinators, but have been a passive >> one). It was slow to get going. At this point the call is >> coming out in the next day or so. Basically using the working group >> (WG) concept that is borrowed from many institutions and has been >> modified for BPF, we will first >> >> ● Launch public call for background contributions on the theme of >> “/Policy Options for Connecting the Next Billion/”. Contributions will >> be gathered and ultimately incorporated in the output through an >> iterative process. >> >> &c. >> >> The call should be out shortly. >> There was a lunch conversation on the draft. >> (Latest draft can be found at: >> < >> http://intgovforum.org/pipermail/intersessional_2015_intgovforum.org/2015-May/000094.html >> >) >> >> Re The origin of the main session schedule >> >> In terms of main sessions, a self selected ad-hoc subgroup had met >> during lunch on day 2 and set up a schedule that includes a half day on >> IGF @ 10 and a full day dedicated to WSIS+10 (3 main session slots). >> Therefore , when considering pre-session, starting and closing ceremony >> (3 full session) left, 2 full sessions (4 hemisessions) were left for >> substantive issues. >> >> It seems we were going to invite the President of the General Assembly >> (PGA) and needed to dedicate that much time to WSIS If the PGA rejects >> the idea, then we will get 1 thematic session back. >> >> >> Re WSIS session: >> >> Part of what is playing out was act 3 in the WSIS Continuation stage. >> Starting in CSTD (which I did not attend), continuing through the 2 >> weeks of ITU Council (which I did attend) and coming into IGF was >> a bit successful but mostly not. ITU wanted to organize a >> multistakeholder consultation on WSIS but was not allowed to by the >> members states. So now IGF was being used by those who want a >> consultation on the future of WSIS. Last stop before NYC. And the >> largest most diverse of group of participants is to be found in IGF 2015. >> So if the PGA, it will be Denmark I believe, is willing to come to the >> IGF for consultations, there will be a full day of consultations in >> Brazil. >> >> Re IGF @ 10 >> >> Since the UNGA is going to decide on IGF's continuing fate this year, >> that seemed necessary to most all of us thought it a reasonable bit of >> scheduling. Some think it should have more time. >> >> Re the remaining 2 main session slots, we were given a list and each >> given a chance to argue to 2 topics on the list. I am not sure I >> remember the whole list, but it included >> >> - net neutrality >> - internet economy >> - human rights >> - IANA stuff >> - cybersecurity >> - ... (couple more i did not write them down, perhaps another >> participant on this list has the full list) >> >> >> In any case there was a supported recommendation that those sitting in >> the room should not be deciding this on our own and that we should poll >> the community. In the end the chair decided those of us in the MAG >> that championed a particular theme should work on a brief description >> and we should put them out for discussion. >> >> I may think of more, but this is it for pre-breakfast mind-dump on a >> holiday morning of a day when I have a paper to finish a draft of. >> Happy to answer questions if I can. >> >> avri >> >> ---- >> >> Funding disclosure specifically for BB: This trip to GVA for ITU Council >> was paid for by a combination of my air miles and shared support from 3 >> Civil Society advocacy groups to whom I give updates and reports on ITU >> activities concerning ITU CWG WSIS and ITU CWG IPP. I piggybacked the >> MAG meeting on the ITU trip. I participated in the ITU Council >> activities as a member of the US delegation. I participate in the MAG >> meeting as a first year appointee suggested by civil society >> coordination group. My ITU time is not paid for. I do not get support >> for participating in the MAG. >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> http://www.avast.com >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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My personal hope is that this will help to change the debate from complaints about the services to one where the focus is on the behaviour of the middlemen - record companies and music publishers. From my direct personal experience/long suffering, I can tell you that it is the latter that are the real problem, and artists are doing themselves a huge disservice by focussing on the services instead. Regards, Nick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 670 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From lists at digitaldissidents.org Sat May 30 10:14:49 2015 From: lists at digitaldissidents.org (Niels ten Oever) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 16:14:49 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] Demystifying the Onion Router: GV Face Tomorrow with Tor (part of a new Advox series) In-Reply-To: <55666C99.4020406@riseup.net> References: <55666C99.4020406@riseup.net> Message-ID: <5569C5D9.8050906@digitaldissidents.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Dear Willi, To do this kind of timing attack you will need to have the resources to monitor large parts of the Internet and/or have control of many Tor relays and exit nodes. Even in the NSA slides leaked by Snowden is was confirmed the NSA did not have the ability to deanonymise Tor traffic. Would be great to see the research papers where you are basing your statements on. As you know the traffic between the different hops on the Tor network are encrypted, and the different hops are unknown. So I don't know how you think that having access to an IXP would somehow break encryption (between the hops) or the anonymity in general. Best, Niels On 05/28/2015 03:17 AM, willi uebelherr wrote: > > Dear Carolina > > "... This makes it nearly impossible for anyone monitoring the > Internet to understand where the traffic is coming from and where > it is going..." > > This is not true. Its a illusion. We don't have control about our > physical networks. But all this networks are connected in the > IXP's (Internet Exchange Points) and give the access to the data to > the state institutions. And this state institutions work in > cooperation. > > With a simple time based correlation you can see the traffic > outside of the TOR network. The way from the client to the network > and from the network to the server and reverse. Then you know, who > communicate and with what. > > Nearly 80% of all this "anonymisation" are open today. > > many greetings, willi Buenos Aires, Argentina > > > Am 27/05/2015 um 14:44 schrieb Carolina Rossini: >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mahsa Alimardani >> Date: Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:20 PM Subject: [gvadvocacy] >> Demystifying the Onion Router: GV Face Tomorrow with Tor (part of >> a new Advox series) >> >> Dear All, >> >> As part of a new series, Advocacy is starting conversations with >> technical security and circumvention experts. Our goals is to >> help the community better understand how these tools work, and >> how we can use them. The subject on our agenda are the tools >> associated with the *Tor Project *. >> >> Join us tomorrow at 12pm ET/ 6pm CET. The hangout is happening >> here >> , and >> you are all invited to join, and participate through online >> questions. >> >> Here's a bit about the conversation, and Tor: >> >> *What exactly is the Tor network? Tor enables citizens to bypass >> government censorship and allows dissidents to communicate >> anonymously. Sometimes however, it has been used by criminals for >> nefarious activities, such as selling drugs or distributing child >> pornography. The network also facilitates special sites that >> allow website owners and their users to remain anonymous through >> “hidden services”. This has become popularly known as the “dark >> web”.How does it work? The Tor network is a collection of servers >> located across the world. The network helps users connect to the >> Internet anonymously by sending traffic between at least three >> Tor servers before allowing it to reach its destination. This >> makes it nearly impossible for anyone monitoring the Internet to >> understand where the traffic is coming from and where it is >> going. Tor “exit nodes” are the final set of servers used in the >> connection process. This is where a user’s traffic exits the Tor >> network and connects to the world wide web. These nodes are set >> up by volunteers, with a few organisations who maintain larger >> exits, including universities and individual activists.In order >> to better understand the tool, its uses, and its controversies, >> Global Voices’ Iran editor Mahsa Alimardani will talk with >> Iranian Tor developer Nima Fatemi and Tor’s head of >> communications, activist Kate Krauss.* >> >> Warmly, Mahsa > > > ____________________________________________________________ You > received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. To unsubscribe or change your > settings, visit: http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > - -- Niels ten Oever Head of Digital Article 19 www.article19.org PGP fingerprint 8D9F C567 BEE4 A431 56C4 678B 08B5 A0F2 636D 68E9 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJVacXZAAoJEAi1oPJjbWjpBDMH/iBM4M3UFmbutft0rInh21lM wp+OOElEgMhZyd9Ai+uaxhYuUvxN8B/LS1xU3KKTo7RllQ0GFYS9mpybnDv3hf6p gHwHqVWw87noNnPlMSSd9h7lr5sPvK3Dp0HeEJU82m2l1TZh/UH8QyuF9Ywr4og/ rmfiEDXJ2nGTeWWF++dT+bxi43l9X9C0X8ZkOB417txYpZlyLVLOMH0ChUAA655Y /9znfGw8B3kVeKM2hq8AEU6FPCfrnlIyVfaDFoxbfpesKkEJHx5r5Mt2lbJhaKvJ vPX+owIal/UJcPqcv/TnY4y4/8U2AVLh3cwaff43OOMBjS32Z27R9VyWVmy8+UI= =ixIr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From parminder at itforchange.net Thu May 7 10:42:43 2015 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 20:12:43 +0530 Subject: [bestbits] Fnancial economy of Internet freedom [was Political economy ....] In-Reply-To: References: <554B3493.9070802@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <554B79E3.60908@itforchange.net> On Thursday 07 May 2015 05:30 PM, Jefsey wrote: > At 11:46 07/05/2015, parminder wrote: >> http://boundary2.org/2015/04/29/dissecting-the-internet-freedom-agenda/ > > Seems interesting. But what I am interested in first in in dissecting > the financing of the internet freedom activists. Does someone knows > something trustable to read in that area? > > When there is a meeting somewhere in the world, how civil society > members happen to be there? Who does actually pull the string wallets > and wallet strings? Who does foot the civil society bill? > > Just to know how politically (un)correct should my association be to > qualify? And where to apply? Yes, JFC, this is perhaps the single most important issue - to try to understand and perhaps apply corrective pressures on the current IG related civil society (CS) configuration... But unfortunately the involved CS is unable to build any kind of consensus on this all important issue, or to act on it... It is so surprising that a sector whose raison d'etre is to seek accountability from all those who are powerful itself refuses to to be held accountable. In fact, raising this issue in these civil society groups has attracted most vile responses, as for instance Norbert faced a year or two back. My organisation has proposed to some key players to set up a online register of some kind for CS players in the IG space, on the lines of EU Transparency Register http://ec.europa.eu/transparencyregister/public/homePage.do . But our discussions went nowhere. Once, again, I appeal to key CS groups involved here to join efforts to develop such an online register. If it is needed for corporate lobbyists, it is today needed much more for CS groups as well. /*My organisation is happy to take a lead to be the initial point of contact for those interested to develop such an initiative. Once there is an initial mass of groups/ individuals they can together choose an appropriate governance structure for the initiative. */ So many IG documents to day speak of transparency among stakeholder groups, but little is done in practice (including the CSTD working group on IGF improvement, and the much celebrated Net Mundial document). CS must of course take the lead, and the conscience keeper of governance processes. parminder > > jfc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From azrak_khan at hotmail.com Sat May 30 10:49:35 2015 From: azrak_khan at hotmail.com (azrak_khan at hotmail.com) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 14:49:35 +0000 Subject: [bestbits] Demystifying the Onion Router: GV Face Tomorrow with Tor (part of a new Advox series) In-Reply-To: <5569C5D9.8050906@digitaldissidents.org> References: <55666C99.4020406@riseup.net> <5569C5D9.8050906@digitaldissidents.org> Message-ID: Dear Niels, This was a very interesting topic of discussion at one of our capacity building events. Law enforcement agencies are trying very hard to decode or deanonymoise ToR in Pakistan as they believe most of the violent online political extremism is happening behind it. How they have reached the conclusion remains a mystery. The growing school of thought with in LEAs circle in Pakistan regarding deanonymising ToR is focused on establishing many exit/relay nodes and try to capture traffic from it and than hope to decode it. I believe thats what NSA was also trying to do but on a bigger scale without any success or atleast thats what we know if it. Best, Arzak Sent by Outlook for Android _____________________________ From:Niels ten Oever Subject:Re: [bestbits] Demystifying the Onion Router: GV Face Tomorrow with Tor (part of a new Advox series) To:bestbits at lists.bestbits.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Dear Willi, To do this kind of timing attack you will need to have the resources to monitor large parts of the Internet and/or have control of many Tor relays and exit nodes. Even in the NSA slides leaked by Snowden is was confirmed the NSA did not have the ability to deanonymise Tor traffic. Would be great to see the research papers where you are basing your statements on. As you know the traffic between the different hops on the Tor network are encrypted, and the different hops are unknown. So I don't know how you think that having access to an IXP would somehow break encryption (between the hops) or the anonymity in general. Best, Niels On 05/28/2015 03:17 AM, willi uebelherr wrote: > > Dear Carolina > > "... This makes it nearly impossible for anyone monitoring the > Internet to understand where the traffic is coming from and where > it is going..." > > This is not true. Its a illusion. We don't have control about our > physical networks. But all this networks are connected in the > IXP's (Internet Exchange Points) and give the access to the data to > the state institutions. And this state institutions work in > cooperation. > > With a simple time based correlation you can see the traffic > outside of the TOR network. The way from the client to the network > and from the network to the server and reverse. Then you know, who > communicate and with what. > > Nearly 80% of all this "anonymisation" are open today. > > many greetings, willi Buenos Aires, Argentina > > > Am 27/05/2015 um 14:44 schrieb Carolina Rossini: >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mahsa Alimardani >> Date: Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:20 PM Subject: [gvadvocacy] >> Demystifying the Onion Router: GV Face Tomorrow with Tor (part of >> a new Advox series) >> >> Dear All, >> >> As part of a new series, Advocacy is starting conversations with >> technical security and circumvention experts. Our goals is to >> help the community better understand how these tools work, and >> how we can use them. The subject on our agenda are the tools >> associated with the *Tor Project < https://www.torproject.org/>*. >> >> Join us tomorrow at 12pm ET/ 6pm CET. The hangout is happening >> here >> < https://plus.google.com/events/cnqsccekj03r95a4ehialintv04>, and >> you are all invited to join, and participate through online >> questions. >> >> Here's a bit about the conversation, and Tor: >> >> *What exactly is the Tor network? Tor enables citizens to bypass >> government censorship and allows dissidents to communicate >> anonymously. Sometimes however, it has been used by criminals for >> nefarious activities, such as selling drugs or distributing child >> pornography. The network also facilitates special sites that >> allow website owners and their users to remain anonymous through >> “hidden services”. This has become popularly known as the “dark >> web”.How does it work? The Tor network is a collection of servers >> located across the world. The network helps users connect to the >> Internet anonymously by sending traffic between at least three >> Tor servers before allowing it to reach its destination. This >> makes it nearly impossible for anyone monitoring the Internet to >> understand where the traffic is coming from and where it is >> going. Tor “exit nodes” are the final set of servers used in the >> connection process. This is where a user’s traffic exits the Tor >> network and connects to the world wide web. These nodes are set >> up by volunteers, with a few organisations who maintain larger >> exits, including universities and individual activists.In order >> to better understand the tool, its uses, and its controversies, >> Global Voices’ Iran editor Mahsa Alimardani will talk with >> Iranian Tor developer Nima Fatemi and Tor’s head of >> communications, activist Kate Krauss.* >> >> Warmly, Mahsa > > > ____________________________________________________________ You > received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. 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To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits From willi.uebelherr at riseup.net Sat May 30 14:20:27 2015 From: willi.uebelherr at riseup.net (willi uebelherr) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 15:20:27 -0300 Subject: [bestbits] Demystifying the Onion Router: GV Face Tomorrow with Tor (part of a new Advox series) In-Reply-To: <5569C5D9.8050906@digitaldissidents.org> References: <55666C99.4020406@riseup.net> <5569C5D9.8050906@digitaldissidents.org> Message-ID: <5569FF6B.2090808@riseup.net> Dear Azrak Khan, many thanks for your participation. Maybe, from your base of experience, you can create a bigger diversity. Dear Niels, search in the internet. You will find a big pool of information. Use one person as a distribution point: Bruce Schneier from EFF. Maybe, he is also on this list and can make it more clearly. Or Jeremy Malcom can help us. Use the texts from Robert Graham. All this texts are very good startpoints to get a view around and about the problematic. We should try to go the reality. many greetings, willi Buenos Aires, Argentina Am 30/05/2015 um 11:14 schrieb Niels ten Oever: > Dear Willi, > > To do this kind of timing attack you will need to have the resources > to monitor large parts of the Internet and/or have control of many Tor > relays and exit nodes. > > Even in the NSA slides leaked by Snowden is was confirmed the NSA did > not have the ability to deanonymise Tor traffic. > > Would be great to see the research papers where you are basing your > statements on. > > As you know the traffic between the different hops on the Tor network > are encrypted, and the different hops are unknown. So I don't know how > you think that having access to an IXP would somehow break encryption > (between the hops) or the anonymity in general. > > Best, > Niels From nb at bollow.ch Sun May 31 03:00:29 2015 From: nb at bollow.ch (Norbert Bollow) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 09:00:29 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Civil society transparency In-Reply-To: <685563FB-947F-4110-8B81-3872514B494C@eff.org> References: <55617E51.5010901@itforchange.net> <5566FE8A.9010209@itforchange.net> <685563FB-947F-4110-8B81-3872514B494C@eff.org> Message-ID: <20150531090029.5bd0ce96@quill> On Thu, 28 May 2015 18:41:20 -0700 Jeremy Malcolm wrote: > Replying just to the IGC list As a matter of fact, Jeremy's posting was broadcast to many civil society mailing lists. > in respect of the suggestion that the > IGC could host this McCarthy Committee on civil society funding and > transparency, I doubt that there is any consensus that it should do > this, and the IGC cannot act in its absence. While I don't think that the words "McCarthy Committee" are a particularly good characterization of what was suggested, I agree that IGC would not be a particularly good choice of locus for work on this, and not only because of the difficulties in IGC with reaching consensus on much of anything. (These difficulties have existed for a long time, since well before either BestBits of JNC were founded.) > I for one cannot imagine a scenario in which this would not do much > more harm than good. There had already been much negative fallout > from JNC members interrogating others on this list and the Best Bits > lists by about their funding and demanding they take particular > accountability and transparency measures. We could not withstand > another such inquisition without a foundation of mutual trust and > respect, which frankly will take much time to rebuild, beginning with > an adjustment in attitude from the inquisitioners. Given that the initial set of pointed questions were sparked by the initial Bestbits meeting having been part of a formal "capacity building" programme funded in part by the US and UK government, and given that about half of that initial Bestbits meeting was spent on building a "civil society" position which turned so well aligned with the interests of the US that the US government then in turn referenced it officially --while the existence of that "capacity building" programme had not in any way at the time been disclosed to the participants of that Bestbits meeting-- I find it quite remarkable when then it is proposed that rebuilding "a foundation of mutual trust and respect" should be achieved not by taking accountability and transparency measures, but instead by means of an "adjustment in attitude from the inquisitioners". Effectively this is essentially just another demand for people to shut up in regard to a particular set of topics. Recently there was a posting on the IGC list, by an IGC coordinator, which essentially suggested that demands for democracy in Internet governance should not be brought up because they can spark conflict. Now Jeremy, one of the founders and key leaders of Bestbits, essentially says the same about a suggestion to work towards a standard for *voluntary* disclosures in the area of accountability and transparency. So if we were to accept both of this, we should not talk about the need for democracy, and also not talk about the need for accountability and transparency within civil society. Greetings, Norbert From lists at digitaldissidents.org Sun May 31 17:57:00 2015 From: lists at digitaldissidents.org (Niels ten Oever) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 23:57:00 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] Demystifying the Onion Router: GV Face Tomorrow with Tor (part of a new Advox series) In-Reply-To: <5569FF6B.2090808@riseup.net> References: <55666C99.4020406@riseup.net> <5569C5D9.8050906@digitaldissidents.org> <5569FF6B.2090808@riseup.net> Message-ID: <556B83AC.4060209@digitaldissidents.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Dear Willi, I have studied Tor quite thoroughly and have run it for quite some years. If you're claiming it's unsafe, please be precise and substantiate your argument or don't make it. Peoples security is depending on it. Best, Niels On 05/30/2015 08:20 PM, willi uebelherr wrote: > Dear Azrak Khan, many thanks for your participation. Maybe, from > your base of experience, you can create a bigger diversity. > > Dear Niels, search in the internet. You will find a big pool of > information. > > Use one person as a distribution point: Bruce Schneier from EFF. > Maybe, he is also on this list and can make it more clearly. Or > Jeremy Malcom can help us. > > Use the texts from Robert Graham. > > All this texts are very good startpoints to get a view around and > about the problematic. We should try to go the reality. > > many greetings, willi Buenos Aires, Argentina > > > > Am 30/05/2015 um 11:14 schrieb Niels ten Oever: >> Dear Willi, >> >> To do this kind of timing attack you will need to have the >> resources to monitor large parts of the Internet and/or have >> control of many Tor relays and exit nodes. >> >> Even in the NSA slides leaked by Snowden is was confirmed the NSA >> did not have the ability to deanonymise Tor traffic. >> >> Would be great to see the research papers where you are basing >> your statements on. >> >> As you know the traffic between the different hops on the Tor >> network are encrypted, and the different hops are unknown. So I >> don't know how you think that having access to an IXP would >> somehow break encryption (between the hops) or the anonymity in >> general. >> >> Best, Niels - -- Niels ten Oever Head of Digital Article 19 www.article19.org PGP fingerprint 8D9F C567 BEE4 A431 56C4 678B 08B5 A0F2 636D 68E9 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJVa4OrAAoJEAi1oPJjbWjps74H/AjkQXUd/Fg7oyA7knSq1DJw TWuK4AykoC0foobZ7a+RAxlF4s5rmxvMR0OXVQpsQcRoaKVvK57BVn+MWL4Yqn4j sKk04590vSSurlxLclTXHov88yXYT8Gc7KGVuMm1T08rf7A/gIyJU2ARsaj52rYw jC6wZPsFEmqU8xIdYlSCSifiACzVvHcod4u3BS4CZgLKC9r46OLWmN97DO3zXv8C U6C5zl4Tt8LcHu6lysaiMc31YYnF9y0BDreNCmVGNSeLjoWbn5s3bE0QMG2HGush GZxxIWXJU1bFrrVvGiHKoNVyrOBVBwTqZWWada6SigxzhMBS85YyQOpk3bP9kFQ= =SlEV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From lists at digitaldissidents.org Sun May 31 18:07:00 2015 From: lists at digitaldissidents.org (Niels ten Oever) Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 00:07:00 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] Demystifying the Onion Router: GV Face Tomorrow with Tor (part of a new Advox series) In-Reply-To: References: <55666C99.4020406@riseup.net> <5569C5D9.8050906@digitaldissidents.org> Message-ID: <556B8604.9070007@digitaldissidents.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi Azrak, Thanks for you email! These are valid concerns, but one can seriously ask whether any LEA would ever be effective using this strategy, the irony is that there more exit nodes there are, the higher the anonimity is and the smaller chances a LEA will find something useful. Generally it is a good practice to use an exit node that is not located in the country you are currently in, I think that is also a default setting in Tor. Next to that, using a VPN while using Tor is generally a good idea to add encryption to all your traffic to protect it upon entering and exiting the network. . Cheers, Niels On 05/30/2015 04:49 PM, azrak_khan at hotmail.com wrote: > Dear Niels, > > This was a very interesting topic of discussion at one of our > capacity building events. Law enforcement agencies are trying very > hard to decode or deanonymoise ToR in Pakistan as they believe most > of the violent online political extremism is happening behind it. > How they have reached the conclusion remains a mystery. The growing > school of thought with in LEAs circle in Pakistan regarding > deanonymising ToR is focused on establishing many exit/relay nodes > and try to capture traffic from it and than hope to decode it. I > believe thats what NSA was also trying to do but on a bigger scale > without any success or atleast thats what we know if it. > > Best, > > Arzak > > > > Sent by Outlook for Android > _____________________________ From:Niels ten Oever Subject:Re: > [bestbits] Demystifying the Onion Router: GV Face Tomorrow with Tor > (part of a new Advox series) To:bestbits at lists.bestbits.net > > > Dear Willi, > > To do this kind of timing attack you will need to have the > resources to monitor large parts of the Internet and/or have > control of many Tor relays and exit nodes. > > Even in the NSA slides leaked by Snowden is was confirmed the NSA > did not have the ability to deanonymise Tor traffic. > > Would be great to see the research papers where you are basing > your statements on. > > As you know the traffic between the different hops on the Tor > network are encrypted, and the different hops are unknown. So I > don't know how you think that having access to an IXP would somehow > break encryption (between the hops) or the anonymity in general. > > Best, > > Niels > > On 05/28/2015 03:17 AM, willi uebelherr wrote: > >> Dear Carolina > >> "... This makes it nearly impossible for anyone monitoring the >> Internet to understand where the traffic is coming from and >> where it is going..." > >> This is not true. Its a illusion. We don't have control about >> our physical networks. But all this networks are connected in >> the IXP's (Internet Exchange Points) and give the access to the >> data to the state institutions. And this state institutions work >> in cooperation. > >> With a simple time based correlation you can see the traffic >> outside of the TOR network. The way from the client to the >> network and from the network to the server and reverse. Then you >> know, who communicate and with what. > >> Nearly 80% of all this "anonymisation" are open today. > >> many greetings, willi Buenos Aires, Argentina > > >> Am 27/05/2015 um 14:44 schrieb Carolina Rossini: >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mahsa Alimardani >>> Date: Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:20 PM Subject: [gvadvocacy] >>> Demystifying the Onion Router: GV Face Tomorrow with Tor (part >>> of a new Advox series) >>> >>> Dear All, >>> >>> As part of a new series, Advocacy is starting conversations >>> with technical security and circumvention experts. Our goals is >>> to help the community better understand how these tools work, >>> and how we can use them. The subject on our agenda are the >>> tools associated with the *Tor Project < >>> https://www.torproject.org/>*. >>> >>> Join us tomorrow at 12pm ET/ 6pm CET. The hangout is happening >>> here < >>> https://plus.google.com/events/cnqsccekj03r95a4ehialintv04>, >>> and you are all invited to join, and participate through >>> online questions. >>> >>> Here's a bit about the conversation, and Tor: >>> >>> *What exactly is the Tor network? Tor enables citizens to >>> bypass government censorship and allows dissidents to >>> communicate anonymously. Sometimes however, it has been used by >>> criminals for nefarious activities, such as selling drugs or >>> distributing child pornography. The network also facilitates >>> special sites that allow website owners and their users to >>> remain anonymous through “hidden services”. This has become >>> popularly known as the “dark web”.How does it work? The Tor >>> network is a collection of servers located across the world. >>> The network helps users connect to the Internet anonymously by >>> sending traffic between at least three Tor servers before >>> allowing it to reach its destination. This makes it nearly >>> impossible for anyone monitoring the Internet to understand >>> where the traffic is coming from and where it is going. Tor >>> “exit nodes” are the final set of servers used in the >>> connection process. This is where a user’s traffic exits the >>> Tor network and connects to the world wide web. These nodes are >>> set up by volunteers, with a few organisations who maintain >>> larger exits, including universities and individual >>> activists.In order to better understand the tool, its uses, and >>> its controversies, Global Voices’ Iran editor Mahsa Alimardani >>> will talk with Iranian Tor developer Nima Fatemi and Tor’s head >>> of communications, activist Kate Krauss.* >>> >>> Warmly, Mahsa > > >> ____________________________________________________________ You >> received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. To unsubscribe or change your >> settings, visit: http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > > - -- Niels ten Oever Head of Digital Article 19 www.article19.org PGP fingerprint 8D9F C567 BEE4 A431 56C4 678B 08B5 A0F2 636D 68E9 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJVa4YDAAoJEAi1oPJjbWjpORkIAKYTa6e2qw5yWqFi7KcguDzS 92YeJWEmZfAMVC1+ij2lW0vzOHUneCtAiaHDIJXgL7+nwBJgWKs/j3j+eKp1jHoV HiZmf6bRkNn8GxtDYCWU3YqIBq8IcL/w1nMdqYnAkMI0XATtBV5OyIstaM5XIehz asBZnZop5GgHxEvrI/72gbW/KMPETmBbnjOyl/hH6PQxlex35e44P8UkPqtXQJx5 FcnOe3PDZ6MH997gtg7TVIBbTo86KO23ySzUN2xTxKxD7Jdpm9tcMtG73gEo/jK6 1kP7/BUPdpf7CxdNENk9+Xb/paVxWfn693THqLTlpCVo+2Ll2pBwnh4RH1Ty63k= =1wH/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pileleji at ymca.gm Thu May 7 11:44:44 2015 From: pileleji at ymca.gm (Poncelet Ileleji) Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 15:44:44 +0000 Subject: [bestbits] IGF/MAG Update - May 2015 (IGF Policy Menus & Best Practice Forums) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for Sharing Lea, Poncelet On 6 May 2015 at 10:05, Lea Kaspar wrote: > Dear friends, > > > Find below a status update on two IGF MAG inter-sessional activities > (drafted by ISOC's Constance Bommelaer): *Best Practice Forums (BPFs)* > and developing the *IGF Policy Menus for Connecting the Next Billion*. To > remind you, this work is based on the input received during the public > consultation period launched earlier this year. Mailing lists to engage > in various BPFs are open to all interested parties - and very welcome (see > below). > > > In addition, MAG has now concluded the initial evaluation round of > workshop proposals for the annual IGF. This year, MAG members evaluated *over > 250 propos**als*. A large *majority of proposals were submitted by > civil society*, followed by the technical community and the private > sector, then intergovernmental organisations, and governments. Regarding > the correspondence between the submitted proposals and the IGF 2015 > sub-themes, *Internet and human rights *was the sub-theme with the > largest number of proposals, while Critical Internet resources and Openness > had the smallest numbers of proposals. Once the Secretariat collates > scores submitted by the MAG, the ranked proposals will be reviewed by MAG > members at the upcoming MAG meeting in Geneva, May 20-22. > > > Hope this is informative. Happy to answer any questions. > > > Best wishes, > > Lea > > > --- > > > Dear Participants, > > > > (CC to the MAG) > > > > This is to give an update on the status of the IGF 2015 Best Practices > Forums and on the inter-sessional work underway to develop “Policy Menus > for Connecting the Next Billion”. > > > > *I - IGF Best Practices Forums* > > > > A public webinar was organized on 2 April including the different > coordinators to exchange insights on the working methodology. > > > > For the convenience of the group, I am reattaching the framework document > that was used as a basis for last year's BPFs, acknowledging that each > group adapts the methodology in a flexible way to the needs of the specific > topics. > > > > *Themes* *and coordinators*: > > - Regulation and mitigation of unwanted communications > : > Markus Kummer > - Establishing and supporting Computer Security Incident Response > Teams (CSIRTs) > : > Markus Kummer > - Developing meaningful multistakeholder participation mechanisms > : > Avri Doria > - Practices to countering abuse against women online > : > Jac Kee and Subi Chatuvedi > - IPv6 > : > Izumi Okutani and Susan Chalmers > - IXPs > : > Desirée Zachariah (an additional volunteer would be welcome) > > In the coming weeks, outreach efforts will focus on involving the relevant > expert stakeholders in each group, as some groups are more active than > others. Leaders of Dynamic Coalitions > are also invited to > participate. The *mailing lists* are open to all interested stakeholders ( > *sign-up* *here* ). > > > > *II - “Policy Menus for Connecting the Next Billion”* > > > > The MAG, led by a working group of volunteers (Amb. Benedicto Fonseca > Filho (lead), Virat Bhatia, Lynn St. Amour, Baher Esmat, Avri Doria and > Constance Bommelaer (Advisor to the Chair)) has continued to work on the > draft framework for developing “Policy Menus for Connecting the Next > Billion”, based on the results of the *public* *consultation* > (scroll down on IGF homepage) launched > by the IGF Secretariat in January and February 2015. > > > > A formal invitation was extended to all *national > and regional initiatives* both to contribute to the horizontal global > inter-sessional theme for this year: *"*Policy Menus for Connecting the > Next Billion", and to develop messages and/ or conclusions that will > support the global IGF inter-sessional work. > > > > During its next physical meeting (20-22 May, Geneva), the MAG will discuss > with a view to finalizing the *draft* > > *framework* for developing “Policy Menus on Connecting the Next > Billion”. > > > > Thank you and best regards, > > > > Constance Bommelaer > > Senior Director, Global Internet Policy > > The Internet Society > > http://www.isoc.org > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > -- Poncelet O. Ileleji MBCS Coordinator The Gambia YMCAs Computer Training Centre & Digital Studio MDI Road Kanifing South P. O. Box 421 Banjul The Gambia, West Africa Tel: (220) 4370240 Fax:(220) 4390793 Cell:(220) 9912508 Skype: pons_utd *www.ymca.gm www.waigf.org www.aficta.org www.itag.gm www.npoc.org http://www.wsa-mobile.org/node/753 *www.diplointernetgovernance.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jefsey at jefsey.com Thu May 7 12:54:04 2015 From: jefsey at jefsey.com (Jefsey) Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 18:54:04 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Fnancial economy of Internet freedom [was Political economy ....] In-Reply-To: <554B79E3.60908@itforchange.net> References: <554B3493.9070802@itforchange.net> <554B79E3.60908@itforchange.net> Message-ID: At 16:42 07/05/2015, parminder wrote: >>Seems interesting. But what I am interested in first, is in >>dissecting the financing of the internet freedom activists. Does >>someone knows something trustable to read in that area? >> >>When there is a meeting somewhere in the world, how civil society >>members happen to be there? Who does actually pull the string >>wallets and wallet strings? Who does foot the civil society bill? >> >>Just to know how politically (un)correct should my association be >>to qualify? And where to apply? > >Yes, JFC, this is perhaps the single most important issue - to try >to understand and perhaps apply corrective pressures on the current >IG related civil society (CS) configuration... But unfortunately the >involved CS is unable to build any kind of consensus on this all >important issue, or to act on it... It is so surprising that a >sector whose raison d'etre is to seek accountability from all those >who are powerful itself refuses to to be held accountable. In fact, >raising this issue in these civil society groups has attracted most >vile responses, as for instance Norbert faced a year or two back. The issue as I see it is as follows: - Multistakeholderism will be with us by dominance decision. This dominance will include the masters of the "Internet Global Community". Read it: an RFC 6852 group ICANN, Davos, IETF, ISOC, RIRs, with NTIA as a watch dog, and FCC as legal liaison with Congres Lobbies, where the public will be consulted as it is by ICANN today: comments on leaders' decision sites, drinks in NETmundial cocktails around the world, social engineering by press releases, CS Buzz on a few sponsorded activists lists where a mere hundred of people will casually discuss digital human cyber rights in a numeric world virtual acosystem where Govs and ITU are the evil. - the NSA-compatible Unicode limited technology will continue to help Google, Apple, FaceBook, Microsoft, etc. to control and collect mentally formated e-purses round the world. - Until a Xerox/NSA-accepted NDN Hollywood technology helps securing the DRMs and call on the USCC to hunt the Chinese hackers and the vilain Pirates. I do not want to belong to this context. So, I frankly do not give a damn about vile responses (sorry I do not recall about the Norbert's suffering, but I experienced something interesting when the IESG ***voted*** ("we hate kings, votes ...") me out the IETF for having obtained (by multiple consensusses ... against what I asked) a less bad RFC 4444 for cultures than the one the business/political Unicode consortium wanted to impose on them as a market. So, I suppose there are enough people throughout the world being fed-up with the multistakeholderist promises above, to say "I do co-create a LIBRE civil transparency registry where evey organization, including single manned initiative and mailing lists, can register, document their funding, document their history, tell about their followers, get commented, and obtain trust and alliance-meshing from this. This will be transparent "omnistakeholderism" among those who want to be CS lead users. >My organisation has proposed to some key players to set up a online >register of some kind for CS players in the IG space, on the lines >of EU Transparency Register >http://ec.europa.eu/transparencyregister/public/homePage.do >. But our discussions went nowhere. > >Once, again, I appeal to key CS groups involved here to join >efforts to develop such an online register. If it is needed for >corporate lobbyists, it is today needed much more for CS groups as >well. My organisation is happy to take a lead to be the initial >point of contact for those interested to develop such an initiative. >Once there is an initial mass of groups/ individuals they can >together choose an appropriate governance structure for the initiative. I suggest 1) the governance to be as mechanic as possible to be neutral - and the registry mecanism to be copied in OpenSource and given to other CivilSociety areas of interests. 2) a "meme bank" to be attached. Where organizations and people might drop memes on what they support/proposes/suggest. We are not interested in votes, but in good suggestions being available to everyone. >So many IG documents to day speak of transparency among stakeholder >groups, but little is done in practice (including the CSTD working >group on IGF improvement, and the much celebrated Net Mundial >document). CS must of course take the lead, and the conscience >keeper of governance processes. 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The aim of the Kaleidoscope conferences is to identify emerging developments in information and communication technologies (ICTs) and, in particular, areas in need of international standards to aid the healthy development of the Information Society. The ‘Connect 2020’ framework embedded in ITU’s Strategic Plan elaborates a guiding vision for the future development of the Information Society, focusing on inclusive and sustainable growth of the ICT ecosystem. *Kaleidoscope 2015: Trust in the Information Society *will analyze means of building information infrastructures deserving our trust. The event will highlight ideas and research that will help ensure the Information Society’s growth in inclusivity and sustainability thanks to its trusted foundations. ICT is the common thread tying together all walks of life. It is at the heart of innovation in areas as diverse as energy management, transportation, healthcare, education and financial services, and ‘always-on’ network access has been a welcome driver of economic growth and social development. The ICT ecosystem has become a facility we can no longer do without, making it essential to ensure that users of ICTs may trust in the Information Society. Concerns continue to grow around what has been dubbed the “darker side” of the Information Society. All industry sectors are expected to deploy technologies under the banner of IoT, and the interconnection of all types of objects – from vehicles to streetlights and household appliances – gives rise to unprecedented implications for data security, the reliability of critical infrastructure and the privacy and safety of the world’s citizens. Given the borderless nature of the network, addressing concerns around security is not only a national priority; it is inherently global. A more comprehensive approach to security is required, taken in a view of the entire digital ecosystem. Kaleidoscope 2015 will provide a platform to analyze the notion of “trust” in the ICT context as well as innovations embedding trust into ICT ecosystems and infrastructures to bring greater certainty, confidence and predictability to our interactions within the Information Society. *Kaleidoscope 2015: Trust in the Information Society *calls for original research papers offering bold, innovative approaches to the research into and development of standardized platforms for the benefit of all, in particular underserved communities and citizens of developing countries. A key point will be the identification of the main challenges still to be addressed to develop standards supporting the development of trustworthy information infrastructures. The 2015 edition of Kaleidoscope will contribute to the celebration of ITU’s 150th anniversary, which will be a tribute to the extraordinary innovation of the global ICT community. The story of ITU is one of international cooperation among governments, industry players, civil society, academia and research institutes. ITU has a proud history as a key platform for the international community to bring cohesion to innovation in the ICT sector, and Kaleidoscope 2015 will celebrate academia’s immense contribution in service of ITU’s mission to ‘Connect the World’. *Audience* Kaleidoscope 2015 targets specialists in the fields of ICT and socio-economic development, including researchers, academics, students, engineers, policymakers, regulators, innovators and futurists. *Date and venue* 9-11 December 2015, Universitat Autònoma de Barcelona, Barcelona, Spain *Submission of papers* Prospective authors from ITU Member States are invited to submit full, original papers with a maximum length of 4,500 words. The submission should be within eight pages, including a summary and references, using the template available on the event website. All papers will go through a double-blind peer-review process. Submission must be made electronically; see http://redirect.state.sbu/?url=http://itu.int/go/K-2015 for more details on online submission (EDAS). Paper proposals will be evaluated according to content, originality, clarity, relevance to the conference’s theme and, in particular, *significance to future standards*. *Deadlines* Submission of full paper proposals: *6 July 2015* Notification of paper acceptance: *18 September 2015* Submission of camera-ready accepted papers: *9 October 2015* *Publication and presentation* Accepted and presented papers will be published in the Conference Proceedings and submitted for inclusion in IEEE *Xplore*. The best papers will also be evaluated for potential publication in *IEEE Communications Magazine *. In addition, updated versions of selected papers will be considered for publication in the *International Journal of Technology Marketing* , the *International Journal of IT Standards & Standardization Research* *, *or* the **Journal of ICT Standardization* *.* *Awards* A prize fund totaling USD 10,000 will be shared among the authors of the three best papers, as judged by the Steering and Technical Programme Committees. In addition, young authors of up to 30 years of age presenting accepted papers will receive Young Author Recognition certificates. *Keywords* Information and communication technologies (ICTs), standards, standardization, technological innovation, information society, converging technologies, ubiquitous networks, internet of things, trustworthiness, security, privacy, reliability. *Suggested (non-exclusive) list of topics* *Track 1: Trust in technology and network infrastructure* · Pervasive and trusted platforms and infrastructure · Virtualization of resources including network functions virtualization and software-defined networking · Future mobile infrastructure: 5G and beyond · Architecture considerations for seamless mobility · Architecture for machine-oriented communications such as M2M, IoT, sensor networks · Security-, privacy-, and trust-enhancing technologies · Trustworthy infrastructure for content delivery networks · Enterprise integration and service-oriented architecture · Human-centric, cognitive and context-aware systems and functions · Quality of service, quality of experience, quality of security service · Protocol architecture convergence and interoperability *Track 2: Trustworthy applications and services* · Trust in ubiquitous applications and services: connected vehicles, healthcare, homes, etc. · Trust in cloud computing · Privacy, trust and big data · Trustworthiness in social networking services and social media · Emerging video services and applications · Trustworthy location-based services · Digital financial services · Artificial intelligence and deep learning · Augmented and virtual reality · Robots and drones *Track 3: Social, economic and policy aspects of trustworthy ICTs * · Strategies and policies enabling an information society · Actors, value chains and business models in an information society · Rights and responsibilities of connected citizens · Conformance and interoperability aspects · Deployment strategies and scenarios for trustworthy applications and services in developing countries · Adoption of ICTs to enhance environmental sustainability · Inclusiveness, affordability and equal access · Harmonization strategies for international, regional and national standards and de-facto standards · Policy issues raised by over-the-top services · Network neutrality and trustworthiness · Societal impact of ICTs · Education about standardization *General Chairman*: Pilar Dellunde, Vice-Rector, Universitat Autònoma de Barcelona, Spain *Steering Committee* Christoph Dosch, ITU-R Study Group 6 Chairman; IRT GmbH, Germany Kai Jakobs, RWTH Aachen University, Germany Mitsuji Matsumoto, Waseda University, Japan Mostafa Hashem Sherif, AT&T, USA *Host Committee* *Chairman*: Pilar Orero, Universitat Autònoma de Barcelona, Spain Anna Matamala, Universitat Autònoma de Barcelona, Spain Xavier Ribes, Universitat Autònoma de Barcelona, Spain *Technical Programme Committee* *Chairman:* Kai Jakobs, RWTH Aachen University, Germany The Technical Programme Committee is composed of over 150 subject-matter experts. 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Get the Note Verbale The exercise of public freedoms (expression, association, peaceful assembly) and the right to participate in public life are at the heart of civic activity. They are the "Super Rules" that allow you to do what you do; influence positive change in your communities. Whatever the issue you are working on. And so good laws and rules to guarantee public freedoms, as well as ways to monitor and protect them are a necessary condition. But that's not all. You also need: > a political and public environment that values civil society's contributions > free flow of information > long-term support and resources > space for dialogue and collaboration We want to hear from you about your experiences! 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A report from the CSTD Secretariat, "*Implementing WSIS outcomes: A ten-year review*", was endorsed. A resolution on WSIS was negotiated, which will provide important guidance for the events to happen in New York, in December. And Peter Major (Hungary) was elected Chair of the next CSTD session. On Monday, ISOC’s Vice-President for Global Engagement*, *Raúl Echeberría, delivered a strong statement that I encourage you to read. The ISOC delegation (Konstantinos Komaitis, Nicolas Seidler and myself) interacted with delegations all week, working throughout difficult negotiations. My colleagues will be sharing a blog post on Monday with an in-depth analysis of the outcome. In the meantime and for your convenience, below are a few highlights from the meeting: *Main takeaways of the CSTD*: - Overall, the WSIS resolution (soon available on-line) is very conservative. - The value of multistakeholder cooperation in implementing the WSIS targets was recognized. This is positive. - Issues such as the WSIS+10 modalities and “enhanced cooperation” were discussed, but with no specific outcome. - While not calling explicitly for the renewal of the IGF's mandate, the resolution welcomes the offer from Mexico to host IGF 2016, subject to the decision by UNGA on the renewal. The improvements currently underway are also acknowledged. In clear, this means the IGF will be at the center of the upcoming WSIS+10 negotiations. *Next steps:* The WSIS resolution will feed into ECOSOC (July) and UN GA (Sept – Dec). The membership of these fora being different than CSTD, language can still evolve. For instance, the renewal of the mandate of the IGF could still be included at the UN GA level. Between now and the UN GA, a negotiation process will start in June, towards the High-Level Event on the overall WSIS+10 review, in December. Acknowledging that the WSIS negotiations can be a little difficult to navigate, ISOC will soon publish background information on the process but also on the issues being discussed. More to follow on Monday in Nicolas and Konstantinos' blog post! 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If your organization has already signed and is uncomfortable with any changes, please let me know. Once this is live, I encourage you to publicize it through social media and by blog, and to articulate your reason for getting behind the language - which will also give you an opportunity to voice criticisms not included in the letter. 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Here's what we did: > > - Moved some text around to make it flow better > - Added some language about "equality of opportunity" the problems of > a two-tiered Internet > - Fixed a few typos and problems of clarity > > We'd like folks to consider this current text as *final *minus any > glaring problems. To allow for more groups to sign (including many in > India, who are just now seeing the final text) > *we're now closing this up tomorrow (Tuesday) at COB EST. * > > *Please review the letter and let me know if you can sign*. If your > organization has already signed and is uncomfortable with any changes, > please let me know. > > Once this is live, I encourage you to publicize it through social media > and by blog, and to articulate your reason for getting behind the language > - which will also give you an opportunity to voice criticisms not included > in the letter. > > Current list of signers below: > AccessGlobalPopular ResistanceUSRootsAction.org > USFuture of > Music CoalitionUSOpenMediaCanadaThe Media ConsortiumUSSamuelson-Glushko > Canadian Internet Policy & Public Interest Clinic (CIPPIC)CanadaBits of > FreedomNetherlandsInitiative für NetzfreiheitAustriaIT-Pol DenmarkDenmarkEuropean > Digital Rights (EDRi)EUColorofChange.org > USxnetSpain > The Heliopolis InstituteEgyptZimbabwe Human Rights NGO ForumZimbabweDigital > Rights Foundation PakistanKorean Progressive Network JinbonetSouth Korea > Movimento MegaBrazilInstituto Bem Estar BrasilBrazilVrijschriftNetherlands > Instituto Beta para Internet e Democracia - IBIDEMBrazilThe Agency League > of MusiciansUSDigitale GesellschaftGermanyIntegrating Livelihoods through > Communication Information Technology for AfricaUgandaProtege Qv CameroonFundacion > KarismaColombia > > > -- > *Josh Levy* > Advocacy Director > Access | accessnow.org > > tel: + 1 917 609 6523 | @levjoy > PGP: 0x84C9F275 > Fingerprint: B56A D510 3142 2364 69C7 3961 A0A3 67A5 84C9 F275 > > *Join the Access team - *we're hiring > ! > > -- *Josh Levy* Advocacy Director Access | accessnow.org tel: + 1 917 609 6523 | @levjoy PGP: 0x84C9F275 Fingerprint: B56A D510 3142 2364 69C7 3961 A0A3 67A5 84C9 F275 *Join the Access team - *we're hiring ! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Here's what we did: > > - Moved some text around to make it flow better > - Added some language about "equality of opportunity" the problems of > a two-tiered Internet > - Fixed a few typos and problems of clarity > > We'd like folks to consider this current text as *final *minus any > glaring problems. To allow for more groups to sign (including many in > India, who are just now seeing the final text) > *we're now closing this up tomorrow (Tuesday) at COB EST. * > > *Please review the letter and let me know if you can sign*. If your > organization has already signed and is uncomfortable with any changes, > please let me know. > > Once this is live, I encourage you to publicize it through social media > and by blog, and to articulate your reason for getting behind the language > - which will also give you an opportunity to voice criticisms not included > in the letter. > > Current list of signers below: > AccessGlobalPopular ResistanceUSRootsAction.org > USFuture of > Music CoalitionUSOpenMediaCanadaThe Media ConsortiumUSSamuelson-Glushko > Canadian Internet Policy & Public Interest Clinic (CIPPIC)CanadaBits of > FreedomNetherlandsInitiative für NetzfreiheitAustriaIT-Pol DenmarkDenmarkEuropean > Digital Rights (EDRi)EUColorofChange.org > USxnetSpain > The Heliopolis InstituteEgyptZimbabwe Human Rights NGO ForumZimbabweDigital > Rights Foundation PakistanKorean Progressive Network JinbonetSouth Korea > Movimento MegaBrazilInstituto Bem Estar BrasilBrazilVrijschriftNetherlands > Instituto Beta para Internet e Democracia - IBIDEMBrazilThe Agency League > of MusiciansUSDigitale GesellschaftGermanyIntegrating Livelihoods through > Communication Information Technology for AfricaUgandaProtege Qv CameroonFundacion > KarismaColombia > > > -- > *Josh Levy* > Advocacy Director > Access | accessnow.org > > tel: + 1 917 609 6523 | @levjoy > PGP: 0x84C9F275 > Fingerprint: B56A D510 3142 2364 69C7 3961 A0A3 67A5 84C9 F275 > > *Join the Access team - *we're hiring > ! > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > -- e: dbu at donnybu.com | t: @donnybu | f: donnybu | w: donnybu.com | p: +62818930932 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Here's what we did: >> >> - Moved some text around to make it flow better >> - Added some language about "equality of opportunity" the problems of >> a two-tiered Internet >> - Fixed a few typos and problems of clarity >> >> We'd like folks to consider this current text as *final *minus any >> glaring problems. To allow for more groups to sign (including many in >> India, who are just now seeing the final text) >> *we're now closing this up tomorrow (Tuesday) at COB EST. * >> >> *Please review the letter and let me know if you can sign*. If your >> organization has already signed and is uncomfortable with any changes, >> please let me know. >> >> Once this is live, I encourage you to publicize it through social media >> and by blog, and to articulate your reason for getting behind the language >> - which will also give you an opportunity to voice criticisms not included >> in the letter. >> >> Current list of signers below: >> AccessGlobalPopular ResistanceUSRootsAction.org >> USFuture of >> Music CoalitionUSOpenMediaCanadaThe Media ConsortiumUSSamuelson-Glushko >> Canadian Internet Policy & Public Interest Clinic (CIPPIC)CanadaBits of >> FreedomNetherlandsInitiative für NetzfreiheitAustriaIT-Pol DenmarkDenmarkEuropean >> Digital Rights (EDRi)EUColorofChange.org >> USxnetSpain >> The Heliopolis InstituteEgyptZimbabwe Human Rights NGO ForumZimbabweDigital >> Rights Foundation PakistanKorean Progressive Network JinbonetSouth Korea >> Movimento MegaBrazilInstituto Bem Estar BrasilBrazilVrijschrift >> Netherlands >> Instituto Beta para Internet e Democracia - IBIDEMBrazilThe Agency >> League of MusiciansUSDigitale GesellschaftGermanyIntegrating Livelihoods >> through Communication Information Technology for AfricaUgandaProtege Qv >> CameroonFundacion KarismaColombia >> >> >> -- >> *Josh Levy* >> Advocacy Director >> Access | accessnow.org >> >> tel: + 1 917 609 6523 | @levjoy >> PGP: 0x84C9F275 >> Fingerprint: B56A D510 3142 2364 69C7 3961 A0A3 67A5 84C9 F275 >> >> *Join the Access team - *we're hiring >> ! >> >> > > > -- > *Josh Levy* > Advocacy Director > Access | accessnow.org > > tel: + 1 917 609 6523 | @levjoy > PGP: 0x84C9F275 > Fingerprint: B56A D510 3142 2364 69C7 3961 A0A3 67A5 84C9 F275 > > *Join the Access team - *we're hiring > ! > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anriette at apc.org Tue May 12 03:47:46 2015 From: anriette at apc.org (Anriette Esterhuysen) Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 09:47:46 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] APC, Internet Democracy, IFLA statement at CSTD 2015 Message-ID: <5551B022.1060007@apc.org> Dear all Apologies for cross posting. This is the APC, Internet Democracy and IFLA statement which was tabled and read at the Commission for Science and Technology 18th Session in Geneva last week. Best Anriette http://www.apc.org/en/news/statement-we-remain-strongly-committed-goal-people From ca at cafonso.ca Tue May 12 08:49:35 2015 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos A. Afonso) Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 09:49:35 -0300 Subject: [bestbits] Final letter to Zuckerberg re: Internet.org In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5551F6DF.5010206@cafonso.ca> Hi, Instituto Nupef in Rio de Janeiro endorses it. It would be great if the letter had a paragraph in the introductory part reminding Mr Zuckerberg that it is precisely because of the open, non-discriminatory nature of the Internet that people like him managed to innovate and create initiatives such as Google, Facebook, Twitter etc etc. His company should not contribute to close this door to free innovation now. fraternal regards --c.a. Carlos A. Afonso Instituto Nupef www.nupef.org.br On 05/11/2015 05:34 PM, Josh Levy wrote: > Apologies - letter attached. > > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Josh Levy > wrote: > > Hi all - we've had some great input from a number of people over the > last few days, and we've incorporated it all into (yet another) > draft of our open letter to Mark Zuckerberg on zero rating, attached. > > As you'll see, the substance is mostly unchanged. Here's what we did: > > * Moved some text around to make it flow better > * Added some language about "equality of opportunity" the problems > of a two-tiered Internet > * Fixed a few typos and problems of clarity > > We'd like folks to consider this current text as *final *minus any > glaring problems. To allow for more groups to sign (including many > in India, who are just now seeing the final text) *we're now closing > this up tomorrow (Tuesday) at COB EST. > * > > *Please review the letter and let me know if you can sign*. If your > organization has already signed and is uncomfortable with any > changes, please let me know. > > Once this is live, I encourage you to publicize it through social > media and by blog, and to articulate your reason for getting behind > the language - which will also give you an opportunity to voice > criticisms not included in the letter. > > Current list of signers below: > > Access Global > Popular Resistance US > RootsAction.org > US > Future of Music Coalition US > OpenMedia Canada > The Media Consortium US > Samuelson-Glushko Canadian Internet Policy & Public Interest Clinic > (CIPPIC) Canada > Bits of Freedom Netherlands > Initiative für Netzfreiheit Austria > IT-Pol Denmark Denmark > European Digital Rights (EDRi) EU > ColorofChange.org > US > xnet Spain > The Heliopolis Institute Egypt > Zimbabwe Human Rights NGO Forum Zimbabwe > Digital Rights Foundation Pakistan > Korean Progressive Network Jinbonet South Korea > Movimento Mega Brazil > Instituto Bem Estar Brasil Brazil > Vrijschrift Netherlands > > Instituto Beta para Internet e Democracia - IBIDEM Brazil > The Agency League of Musicians US > Digitale Gesellschaft Germany > Integrating Livelihoods through Communication Information Technology > for Africa Uganda > Protege Qv Cameroon > Fundacion Karisma Colombia > > > > -- > *Josh Levy* > Advocacy Director > Access | accessnow.org > > tel: + 1 917 609 6523 | @levjoy > PGP: 0x84C9F275 > Fingerprint: B56A D510 3142 2364 69C7 3961 A0A3 67A5 84C9 F275 > > *Join the Access team - *we're hiring > ! > > > > > -- > *Josh Levy* > Advocacy Director > Access | accessnow.org > > tel: + 1 917 609 6523 | @levjoy > PGP: 0x84C9F275 > Fingerprint: B56A D510 3142 2364 69C7 3961 A0A3 67A5 84C9 F275 > > *Join the Access team - *we're hiring > ! > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > From tisrael at cippic.ca Tue May 12 10:11:26 2015 From: tisrael at cippic.ca (Tamir Israel) Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 10:11:26 -0400 Subject: [bestbits] Final letter to Zuckerberg re: Internet.org In-Reply-To: <5551F6DF.5010206@cafonso.ca> References: <5551F6DF.5010206@cafonso.ca> Message-ID: <55520A0E.6010107@cippic.ca> Thank you for bringing this up, Carlos. I think it's implicit in the 'innovation without permission' concept. Net neutrality is about preventing gatekeepers from picking downstream winners and losers, and no one knows this better than the current set of 'winners'. Best, Tamir On 5/12/2015 8:49 AM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: > Hi, Instituto Nupef in Rio de Janeiro endorses it. It would be great if > the letter had a paragraph in the introductory part reminding Mr > Zuckerberg that it is precisely because of the open, non-discriminatory > nature of the Internet that people like him managed to innovate and > create initiatives such as Google, Facebook, Twitter etc etc. His > company should not contribute to close this door to free innovation now. > > fraternal regards > > --c.a. > Carlos A. Afonso > Instituto Nupef > www.nupef.org.br > > On 05/11/2015 05:34 PM, Josh Levy wrote: >> Apologies - letter attached. >> >> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Josh Levy > > wrote: >> >> Hi all - we've had some great input from a number of people over the >> last few days, and we've incorporated it all into (yet another) >> draft of our open letter to Mark Zuckerberg on zero rating, attached. >> >> As you'll see, the substance is mostly unchanged. Here's what we did: >> >> * Moved some text around to make it flow better >> * Added some language about "equality of opportunity" the problems >> of a two-tiered Internet >> * Fixed a few typos and problems of clarity >> >> We'd like folks to consider this current text as *final *minus any >> glaring problems. To allow for more groups to sign (including many >> in India, who are just now seeing the final text) *we're now closing >> this up tomorrow (Tuesday) at COB EST. >> * >> >> *Please review the letter and let me know if you can sign*. If your >> organization has already signed and is uncomfortable with any >> changes, please let me know. >> >> Once this is live, I encourage you to publicize it through social >> media and by blog, and to articulate your reason for getting behind >> the language - which will also give you an opportunity to voice >> criticisms not included in the letter. >> >> Current list of signers below: >> >> Access Global >> Popular Resistance US >> RootsAction.org >> US >> Future of Music Coalition US >> OpenMedia Canada >> The Media Consortium US >> Samuelson-Glushko Canadian Internet Policy & Public Interest Clinic >> (CIPPIC) Canada >> Bits of Freedom Netherlands >> Initiative für Netzfreiheit Austria >> IT-Pol Denmark Denmark >> European Digital Rights (EDRi) EU >> ColorofChange.org >> US >> xnet Spain >> The Heliopolis Institute Egypt >> Zimbabwe Human Rights NGO Forum Zimbabwe >> Digital Rights Foundation Pakistan >> Korean Progressive Network Jinbonet South Korea >> Movimento Mega Brazil >> Instituto Bem Estar Brasil Brazil >> Vrijschrift Netherlands >> >> Instituto Beta para Internet e Democracia - IBIDEM Brazil >> The Agency League of Musicians US >> Digitale Gesellschaft Germany >> Integrating Livelihoods through Communication Information Technology >> for Africa Uganda >> Protege Qv Cameroon >> Fundacion Karisma Colombia >> >> >> >> -- >> *Josh Levy* >> Advocacy Director >> Access | accessnow.org >> >> tel: + 1 917 609 6523 | @levjoy >> PGP: 0x84C9F275 >> Fingerprint: B56A D510 3142 2364 69C7 3961 A0A3 67A5 84C9 F275 >> >> *Join the Access team - *we're hiring >> ! >> >> >> >> >> -- >> *Josh Levy* >> Advocacy Director >> Access | accessnow.org >> >> tel: + 1 917 609 6523 | @levjoy >> PGP: 0x84C9F275 >> Fingerprint: B56A D510 3142 2364 69C7 3961 A0A3 67A5 84C9 F275 >> >> *Join the Access team - *we're hiring >> ! >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It would be great if > the letter had a paragraph in the introductory part reminding Mr > Zuckerberg that it is precisely because of the open, non-discriminatory > nature of the Internet that people like him managed to innovate and > create initiatives such as Google, Facebook, Twitter etc etc. His > company should not contribute to close this door to free innovation now. > > fraternal regards > > --c.a. > Carlos A. Afonso > Instituto Nupef > www.nupef.org.br > > On 05/11/2015 05:34 PM, Josh Levy wrote: >> Apologies - letter attached. >> >> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Josh Levy > > wrote: >> >> Hi all - we've had some great input from a number of people over the >> last few days, and we've incorporated it all into (yet another) >> draft of our open letter to Mark Zuckerberg on zero rating, attached. >> >> As you'll see, the substance is mostly unchanged. Here's what we did: >> >> * Moved some text around to make it flow better >> * Added some language about "equality of opportunity" the problems >> of a two-tiered Internet >> * Fixed a few typos and problems of clarity >> >> We'd like folks to consider this current text as *final *minus any >> glaring problems. To allow for more groups to sign (including many >> in India, who are just now seeing the final text) *we're now closing >> this up tomorrow (Tuesday) at COB EST. >> * >> >> *Please review the letter and let me know if you can sign*. If your >> organization has already signed and is uncomfortable with any >> changes, please let me know. >> >> Once this is live, I encourage you to publicize it through social >> media and by blog, and to articulate your reason for getting behind >> the language - which will also give you an opportunity to voice >> criticisms not included in the letter. >> >> Current list of signers below: >> >> Access Global >> Popular Resistance US >> RootsAction.org >> US >> Future of Music Coalition US >> OpenMedia Canada >> The Media Consortium US >> Samuelson-Glushko Canadian Internet Policy & Public Interest Clinic >> (CIPPIC) Canada >> Bits of Freedom Netherlands >> Initiative für Netzfreiheit Austria >> IT-Pol Denmark Denmark >> European Digital Rights (EDRi) EU >> ColorofChange.org >> US >> xnet Spain >> The Heliopolis Institute Egypt >> Zimbabwe Human Rights NGO Forum Zimbabwe >> Digital Rights Foundation Pakistan >> Korean Progressive Network Jinbonet South Korea >> Movimento Mega Brazil >> Instituto Bem Estar Brasil Brazil >> Vrijschrift Netherlands >> >> Instituto Beta para Internet e Democracia - IBIDEM Brazil >> The Agency League of Musicians US >> Digitale Gesellschaft Germany >> Integrating Livelihoods through Communication Information Technology >> for Africa Uganda >> Protege Qv Cameroon >> Fundacion Karisma Colombia >> >> >> >> -- >> *Josh Levy* >> Advocacy Director >> Access | accessnow.org >> >> tel: + 1 917 609 6523 | @levjoy >> PGP: 0x84C9F275 >> Fingerprint: B56A D510 3142 2364 69C7 3961 A0A3 67A5 84C9 F275 >> >> *Join the Access team - *we're hiring >> ! >> >> >> >> >> -- >> *Josh Levy* >> Advocacy Director >> Access | accessnow.org >> >> tel: + 1 917 609 6523 | @levjoy >> PGP: 0x84C9F275 >> Fingerprint: B56A D510 3142 2364 69C7 3961 A0A3 67A5 84C9 F275 >> >> *Join the Access team - *we're hiring >> ! >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits -- Colnodo - Uso estratégico de Internet para el desarrollo *Julián Casasbuenas G.* Director Tels: 57-1-2324246, 57-315-2585596 Cel. 57-315-3339099 Diagonal 40A (Antigua Av. 39) No. 14-75, Bogotá, Colombia Twitter @jcasasbuenas @colnodo www.colnodo.apc.org - Uso Estratégico de Internet para el Desarrollo Miembro de la Asociación para el Progreso de las Comunicaciones -APC- www.apc.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The conference itself is fully subscribed, but please enjoy the livestream. joly posted: "On Thursday May 14 and Friday May 15 2015 the Columbia University School of International and Public Affairs(SIPA) and the Global Commission on Internet Governance (GCIG) will present the Conference on Internet Governance and Cyber-Security at Columbia U" [image: SIPA_GCIG_Conference] On *Thursday May 14* and* Friday May 15* 2015 the Columbia University School of International and Public Affairs (SIPA) and the Global Commission on Internet Governance (GCIG) will present the *Conference on Internet Governance and Cyber-Security * at Columbia University in NYC. Over 40 speakers – including*Vint Cerf*,* Kathy Brown*, *Fadi Chehadé*, *Larry Strickling*, *David Gross*, *Tim Wu*, *Leslie Daigle*,* Rebecca Mackinnon*, *Konstantinos Komaitis,* *Michael Nelson*, and *Laura DeNardis*, will discuss the most pressing policy issues in the worlds of internet governance and cyber-security including privacy, security, innovation, international trade and cross border data flows, data protectionism, human rights, freedom of expression and more. The conference will be webcast live via a joint effort of the Internet Society and the SIPA IT Department. *What: Conference on Internet Governance and Cyber-Security * *Where: Italian Academy, Columbia University NYC* *When: Thursday May 14 09:00-21:00 EDT (13:00-01:00 UTC) and Friday May 15 2015 09:00-14:00 EDT (13:00-18:00 UTC)* *Agenda: https://sipa.columbia.edu/experience-sipa/cross-cutting-initiatives/cyber-security/agenda * *Webcast: https://livestream.com/internetsociety/SIPA * *Twitter: @ColombiaSIPA * Comment See all comments *​Permalink* http://isoc-ny.org/p2/7767 -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Unfortunately, even as critical issues about the Internet - most with significant global political dimensions- are increasingly gathering momentum, the Commission's proceedings saw a complete political stalemate. Anyone sitting through the five days of the annual session would have got the impression that all is truly well with the Internet and its global societal impact! Our statement speaks out against such complacency andabdication of global political responsibility by key actors." parminder On Tuesday 12 May 2015 01:17 PM, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote: > Dear all > > Apologies for cross posting. > > This is the APC, Internet Democracy and IFLA statement which was tabled > and read at the Commission for Science and Technology 18th Session in > Geneva last week. > > Best > > Anriette > > http://www.apc.org/en/news/statement-we-remain-strongly-committed-goal-people > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From josh at accessnow.org Tue May 12 17:17:07 2015 From: josh at accessnow.org (Josh Levy) Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 17:17:07 -0400 Subject: [bestbits] Final letter to Zuckerberg re: Internet.org In-Reply-To: <555210A1.7070204@colnodo.apc.org> References: <5551F6DF.5010206@cafonso.ca> <555210A1.7070204@colnodo.apc.org> Message-ID: Hi again - Thanks to everyone who has weighed in and signed on to the letter to Mark Zuckerberg. We're now at 47 signers from 27 countries and regions - listed below. The letter is finalized but we'll still be taking signers through tomorrow (Wednesday) as we get a campaign in motion to announce the letter and exert pressure on FB - *so there's still time to add your organization's name. * Thanks again, Josh Initiative für NetzfreiheitAustria Instituto Beta para Internet e Democracia - IBIDEMBrazilColetivo Intervozes BrazilInstituto Bem Estar BrasilBrazilInstituto NUPEF BrazilMovimento Mega BrazilProtege Qv CameroonSamuelson-Glushko Canadian Internet Policy & Public Interest Clinic (CIPPIC)CanadaAgeia Densi ColombiaColombiaColnodo ColombiaFundacion KarismaColombiaRedPaTodosColombiaIT-Pol DenmarkDenmarkUsuarios DigitalesEcuadorThe Heliopolis InstituteEgyptEuropean Digital Rights (EDRi) EUFree Press UnlimitedEUDigitale GesellschaftGermanyAccessGlobalOpenMedia GlobalData Roads FoundationGlobal International Modern Media InstituteIcelandIT for ChangeIndiaICT Watch - IndonesiaIndonesiaKICTANetKenyaRed en Defensa de los Derechos Digitales (R3D)MexicoBits of FreedomNetherlandsVrijschriftNetherlandsParadigm Initiative NigeriaNigeriaDigital Rights Foundation PakistanInternet Policy Observatory PakistanPakistanMedia Matters for Democracy (Pakistan)Pakistan IPANDETECPanamaTEDICParaguayJust Associates Southern AfricaSouth Africa Korean Progressive Network JinbonetSouth Korea xnetSpainIntegrating Livelihoods through Communication Information Technology for AfricaUgandaUnwanted WitnessUgandaColorofChange.org USFuture of Music CoalitionUSPopular ResistanceUSRootsAction.org USSavvy System DesignsUSThe Agency League of MusiciansUSThe Media ConsortiumUSZimbabwe Human Rights NGO ForumZimbabwe On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Julian Casasbuenas G. < julian at colnodo.apc.org> wrote: > > Hello, > > We agree with Carlos comments and Colnodo from Colombia wants also to > endorse the letter, > > Best, > > Julián Casasbuenas G. > Director Colnodo > > El 12/05/15 a las 07:49, Carlos A. Afonso escibió: > > Hi, Instituto Nupef in Rio de Janeiro endorses it. It would be great if > the letter had a paragraph in the introductory part reminding Mr > Zuckerberg that it is precisely because of the open, non-discriminatory > nature of the Internet that people like him managed to innovate and > create initiatives such as Google, Facebook, Twitter etc etc. His > company should not contribute to close this door to free innovation now. > > fraternal regards > > --c.a. > Carlos A. Afonso > Instituto Nupefwww.nupef.org.br > > On 05/11/2015 05:34 PM, Josh Levy wrote: > > Apologies - letter attached. > > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Josh Levy > wrote: > > Hi all - we've had some great input from a number of people over the > last few days, and we've incorporated it all into (yet another) > draft of our open letter to Mark Zuckerberg on zero rating, attached. > > As you'll see, the substance is mostly unchanged. Here's what we did: > > * Moved some text around to make it flow better > * Added some language about "equality of opportunity" the problems > of a two-tiered Internet > * Fixed a few typos and problems of clarity > > We'd like folks to consider this current text as *final *minus any > glaring problems. To allow for more groups to sign (including many > in India, who are just now seeing the final text) *we're now closing > this up tomorrow (Tuesday) at COB EST. > * > > *Please review the letter and let me know if you can sign*. If your > organization has already signed and is uncomfortable with any > changes, please let me know. > > Once this is live, I encourage you to publicize it through social > media and by blog, and to articulate your reason for getting behind > the language - which will also give you an opportunity to voice > criticisms not included in the letter. > > Current list of signers below: > > Access Global > Popular Resistance US > RootsAction.org > US > Future of Music Coalition US > OpenMedia Canada > The Media Consortium US > Samuelson-Glushko Canadian Internet Policy & Public Interest Clinic > (CIPPIC) Canada > Bits of Freedom Netherlands > Initiative für Netzfreiheit Austria > IT-Pol Denmark Denmark > European Digital Rights (EDRi) EU > ColorofChange.org > US > xnet Spain > The Heliopolis Institute Egypt > Zimbabwe Human Rights NGO Forum Zimbabwe > Digital Rights Foundation Pakistan > Korean Progressive Network Jinbonet South Korea > Movimento Mega Brazil > Instituto Bem Estar Brasil Brazil > Vrijschrift Netherlands > > Instituto Beta para Internet e Democracia - IBIDEM Brazil > The Agency League of Musicians US > Digitale Gesellschaft Germany > Integrating Livelihoods through Communication Information Technology > for Africa Uganda > Protege Qv Cameroon > Fundacion Karisma Colombia > > > > -- > *Josh Levy* > Advocacy Director > Access | accessnow.org > > tel: + 1 917 609 6523 | @levjoy > PGP: 0x84C9F275 > Fingerprint: B56A D510 3142 2364 69C7 3961 A0A3 67A5 84C9 F275 > > *Join the Access team - *we're hiring > ! > > > > > -- > *Josh Levy* > Advocacy Director > Access | accessnow.org > > tel: + 1 917 609 6523 | @levjoy > PGP: 0x84C9F275 > Fingerprint: B56A D510 3142 2364 69C7 3961 A0A3 67A5 84C9 F275 > > *Join the Access team - *we're hiring ! > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > -- > > [image: Colnodo - Uso estratégico de Internet para el desarrollo] > *Julián Casasbuenas G.* > > Director > > Tels: 57-1-2324246, 57-315-2585596 Cel. 57-315-3339099 > > Diagonal 40A (Antigua Av. 39) No. 14-75, Bogotá, Colombia > > Twitter @jcasasbuenas @colnodo > > > www.colnodo.apc.org - Uso Estratégico de Internet para el Desarrollo > > Miembro de la Asociación para el Progreso de las Comunicaciones -APC- > www.apc.org > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > -- *Josh Levy* Advocacy Director Access | accessnow.org tel: + 1 917 609 6523 | @levjoy PGP: 0x84C9F275 Fingerprint: B56A D510 3142 2364 69C7 3961 A0A3 67A5 84C9 F275 *Join the Access team - *we're hiring ! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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As part of an ongoing experiment in university-civil society collaboration, I¹m sending a second invitation for expressions of interest from potential civil society partners (for Fall 2015, in the Americas only, preferably not in Canada or the US) seeking research that supports their Internet-related policy advocacy work. Of particular interest are proposals from groups involved in IGF (or considering becoming involved in them). Other proposals for research assistance are also invited. As background, previous civil society partners have included Derechos Digitales (DD) in Santiago and the Women of Uganda Network (WOUGNET) in Kampala. Outcomes for two semester-long projects with DD include the following research brief, which was developed by students and then edited/translated/formatted by DD: https://www.derechosdigitales.org/wp-content/uploads/PP05.pdf; we are now completing a second project featuring a review of the literature (scholarly, news, government, and civil society sources) about the benefits of the IGF for civil society organizations, a report that anticipates the 2015 IGF in Latin America. Testimonials and references from DD are available about how DD has benefited from both of these collaborations. The third semester-long project resulted in establishing 3 university-supported internships to help WOUGNET with a variety of capacity building needs: an Information/ Communications Intern (http://wougnet.org/2014/02/internship-opportunity-informationcommunications -deadline-28th-february/), a Technical Support Intern (https://www.mcgill.ca/arts-internships/files/arts-internships/wougnet_tech_ support_intern.pdf), and Gender and ICT Policy Advocacy (https://www.mcgill.ca/arts-internships/files/arts-internships/wougnet_gende r_and_ict_policy_advocacy_0.pdf). Testimonials and references from WOUGNET are also available. The process for identifying a civil society partner for the Fall semester 2015 is now underway; it consists of the following steps: 1) an expression of interest by a potential civil society partner; 2) based on a possible match, an invitation for a short proposal (template will be provided); and 3) if selected, a jointly-crafted memorandum of understanding (MOU) between the selected civil society partner and my class. There are no costs to the partner organization other than a modest commitment of time during the semester-long project. If you have advocacy-related research needs and you think a September-December timeframe for working together with a report available to you in late December 2015 meets your timeframe, please feel free to contact me off-list. Best, Becky Lentz McGill University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gurstein at gmail.com Thu May 14 07:04:40 2015 From: gurstein at gmail.com (Michael Gurstein) Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 12:04:40 +0100 Subject: [bestbits] [A2k] Global Declaration on Knowledge Discovery in the Digital Age In-Reply-To: <120234CBAF61D14E80E1F5DAB85E620C548D5940@V8L-EXCHANGE02.ad.bl.uk> References: <120234CBAF61D14E80E1F5DAB85E620C548D5940@V8L-EXCHANGE02.ad.bl.uk> Message-ID: <014801d08e35$c7674870$5635d950$@gmail.com> Ben, Maybe I’m not reading this correctly, and certainly there is a very sympathetic group of supporters but what I see is a statement which makes the world (legally) safe for (Big) data mining (which is at the moment as you know an anticipated gold mine for major corporations) with only some minor hand waves in the direction of the public interest whether through researchers, libraries or whatever. The document gives some useful (and IMHO appropriate) critiques of IPR’s but seems to stop there midway. Simply removing IPR restrictions on “Big Data”/data mining makes the world safe for Google et al without doing a fig for the rest of us I think. This isn't my area so perhaps I'm misreading but perhaps someone could explain to me how this approach furthers the public interest beyond what is already being widely articulated concerning the knowledge restrictive role of IPR's. If, as this document appears to intend, the effort is directed toward those concerned with the use of Big Data perhaps there could/should have been something more specific and direct concerning how to ensure that Big Data/data mining initiatives/activities are governed in the public interest; are available to be developed by those promoting the public interest; and are realized in full cognizance of the privacy, control and centralization impacts of Big Data initiatives and activities. M -----Original Message----- From: A2k [mailto:a2k-bounces at lists.keionline.org] On Behalf Of White, Ben Sent: May 14, 2015 9:54 AM To: Nehaa Chaudhari; sccrs at infoserv.inist.fr; a2k at lists.keionline.org; ip-health at lists.keionline.org; ogp at dgroups.org; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net; asia-commons at googlegroup.com; discuss at 1net.org; cc-affiliates at lists.ibiblio.org; commons-law at sarai.net; copysouth at copysouth.org; digitalconsumers at lists.consumersinternational.org; ip-dev at cis-india.org; ip-teaching-india at googlegroups.com Subject: [A2k] Global Declaration on Knowledge Discovery in the Digital Age Dear Colleagues Sincerest apologies for cross posting. I wanted to bring to your attention the Hague Declaration On Knoweldge Discovery in the Digital Age as a member of LIBER ((Ligue des Bibliothèques Européennes de Recherche) and the Copyright, Legal and Other Matters Committee of the International Federation of Library Associations. As the massive potential of Big Data, and all other forms of data have become clear we have seen a rise in litigation to protect smaller and smaller amounts of knowledge. Over the past 10 years we have seen litigation, particularly from the newspaper industry, around the reuse of a few words from newspaper articles, or a newspaper title. We have similarly seen court cases around whether copyright pertains to a url. In 2013 we saw the European Commission organise workshops on Text and Data Mining / Big Data to discuss not limitations and exceptions, but more licences for being able to extract facts and data from materials users of copyright already had legal access to already. The point of the Hague Declaration is to protect the building blocks of knowledge – facts - from the reach of intellectual property. This is important because in order to exploit Big Data, computers must copy and synthesise the text / data, within which the facts you want to discover are sitting. This means that it is regulated by copyright law, or if in the EU database rights also. The medical, social and economic potential of this technology is hugely transformative. I would invite your organisations to read and potentially sign. Signatories will agree to share and work towards the key vision of the Declaration, which calls for changes to intellectual property (IP) law and the removal of other barriers currently preventing widened and more equal access to Big Data. IP law was not designed to regulate the free flow of facts, data and ideas, nor should it. http://thehaguedeclaration.com/the-hague-declaration-on-knowledge-discovery-in-the-digital-age/ Kind regards Ben White IFLA / LIBER P.S. 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The British Library does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. ***************************************************************************************************************** Think before you print _______________________________________________ A2k mailing list A2k at lists.keionline.org http://lists.keionline.org/mailman/listinfo/a2k_lists.keionline.org From geetha at cis-india.org Fri May 15 05:50:33 2015 From: geetha at cis-india.org (Geetha Hariharan) Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 15:20:33 +0530 Subject: [bestbits] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> Message-ID: <5555C169.7000309@cis-india.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 PFA the call for participation for the Global Congress on Intellectual Property and Public Interest. Apologies for cross-posting. Please do circulate to anyone you think might be interested. Best, Geetha. - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Swaraj Barooah Date: Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:05 PM Subject: Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 Dear all, We are pleased to announce the call for participation for the fourth edition of the Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest (“Global Congress”). The theme for this year’s Congress will be “Three Decades of Openness; Two Decades of TRIPS.” We are now inviting applications to participate in the Congress, including session participation and presentations. We are also welcoming proposals for panels and workshops. The application form is available now at [http://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?] Please note that this form is for application purposes, and does not amount to confirmation of participation. The registrations for the plenary sessions, which are open to the public, will open closer to the date of the Global Congress. Deadlines August 1st: Priority Deadline for Applications- Applicants will be considered on a rolling basis, with applications made by August 1st being given first consideration. Applications after August 1st to receive travel assistance will be considered only under exceptional circumstances (these details will be collected in a subsequent form). November 1st: All applications for session participation and paper submissions will close on November 1st. Application Information For applications to participate/host: Applications to present or host workshops shall be considered based on the proposals to be submitted in the form. For applications to attend sessions:Applications to attend sessions as discussants will be considered based on the statement of purpose and/or any other relevant information provided by the applicant. Limited travel grants to cover accommodation and/or travel to the Congress will be available, with priority to those from developing countries. Background, Theme and Expected Outcomes The Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest is the most significant event on the calendar for scholars and policy advocates working on intellectual property from a public interest perspective. By sharing their research and strategies, the network of experts and activists supported by the Global Congress are empowered to put forward a positive agenda for policy reform. The Global Congress began in Washington D.C. in 2011, moved to Rio de Janeiro in 2012, and was held in Cape Town in 2013. The fourth Global Congress will now be held in New Delhi, in December 2015. The event would be the largest convening of public interest-oriented intellectual property practitioners ever held in Asia, and would help link in the world's most populous region to these global debates around how intellectual property policy can best serve the public interest. The fourth edition of the Global Congress, which brings research, civil society, industry and regulatory and policy-making communities together for active, intense engagement on key public-interest intellectual property issues. Opportunities for these groups to interact are rare but valuable; and have been proven to lead to successful policy outcomes. The 4thedition of the Congress, slated to be held in December, 2015 in New Delhi seeks to be one such opportunity. The theme for the 2015 Congress is Three Decades of Openness; Two Decades of TRIPS-coming at a pivotal time for reflection, revision, and further strategizing. Specifically, the 2015 Congress seeks to produce three outcomes- first, the mobilization of existing scholarly research directly into the hands of civil society advocates, business leaders and policy makers, leading to evidence-based policies and practices; second,the collaborative identification of urgent, global and local research priorities and generation of a joint research/advocacy agenda; and third, the solidification of an inter-disciplinary, cross-sector and global networked community of experts focused on public interest aspects of IP policy and practice. Participation Opportunities Discussions at the Global Congress will be carried out in the form of plenary sessions, thematic tracks, cross-track sessions, and the room of scholars. Participation is invited for the thematic track sessions, cross-track sessions and the room of scholars. The thematic tracks at the Global Congress are: 1) Openness, 2) Access to Medicines, 3) User Rights, 4) IP and Development. Cross-track sessions will feature research that cuts across tracks in order to facilitate engagement between tracks on themes of mutual interest. The Room of Scholars will feature presentations of research outputs such as draft works or white papers that may not fit directly within the thematic tracks but fall within the overall theme of the Global Congress . Participation could be in the form of presenting / discussing conference papers or policy briefs, or by conducting workshops where they may share their own work and solicit feedback from peers, during the aforementioned sessions. The application form for participation is available now athttp://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?. Please forward this invitation to interested lists and individuals. For more information or questions, you may contact globalcongress2015 at gmail.com . Organisation The Centre for Internet and Society serves as the convenor of the fourth Global Congress on Intellectual Property and Public Interest, carried out in cooperation withNational Law University, Delhi . The implementing partners arethe American Assembly at Columbia University in New York,Open A.I.R ., and theProgram on Information Justice and Intellectual Property at American University Washington College of Law in Washington DC. On behalf of the organizing committee, Swaraj Barooah Swaraj Paul Barooah Project Manager, "Global Congress" (Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest, 2015) Editor-in-Chief, SpicyIP.com Founder, Know-GAP Twitter: @swarajpb - -- Geetha Hariharan Programme Officer Centre for Internet and Society W: http://cis-india.org | T: +91 8860 360717 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJVVcFpAAoJENMCY59StgV56rMIAIslFToAvvsQGyZzhrYkg2lS E4mBkbAep89F7tPds/whZk5STXvhchFylKBkA2PjqqB1l/YzhrL3A+nXDdMNfDl4 RhE88ssEGcFNNq7J3+4e6MtKYunwAWB0GOaOX6B1Oz3OXa4j53Pcr3x503F08dvy w3eGhtb/nCqE6Bhpa+fr6SulbcHhF6JUPSEqonM6leX8I9J92aFsbAYSoJ9HaZUE daqOwvVDYRN9nbgTjN39QGCcp6FWkZxBuK8SsQgouyGpNekTu8zlHet8v+UOefYY 26hXr/4rONsbcNiGmE9h4cCya5yq5auQtQrVW52/cYoOJRO4PAp2D3ZP0BE/e8M= =9eW6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From gurstein at gmail.com Sun May 17 01:56:54 2015 From: gurstein at gmail.com (Michael Gurstein) Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 06:56:54 +0100 Subject: [bestbits] [ogp] RE: [A2k] Global Declaration on Knowledge Discovery in the Digital Age In-Reply-To: References: <120234CBAF61D14E80E1F5DAB85E620C548D5940@V8L-EXCHANGE02.ad.bl.uk> <014801d08e35$c7674870$5635d950$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <01c401d09066$49c055f0$dd4101d0$@gmail.com> Thanks for this Denis, (and copying this to some of those on the original cc: list… So then perhaps someone could explain to me why all of these organizations, most of which appear quite reputable are “carrying water” i.e. doing the lobbying work, for Google, Facebook et al. Presumably Google et al have the budgets to do their own lobbying without the intervention of Civil Society or am I still missing something? Since we are being asked to sign on to this letter presumably an explanation is in order. (And as a slight aside and following Bakan’s talk as pointed to below, presumably the Civil Society position should be one which is concerned with democratizing access to and control over knowledge and, and not simply “eliminating barriers” as per the statement. As you indicate this elimination of barriers will simply extend the power and control of those organizations such as Google, Facebook et al which have the capacity and resources to undertake this type of “knowledge discovery”, further empowering (and enriching) the already empowered (and outrageously wealthy). Mike From: ogp at dgroups.org [mailto:ogp at dgroups.org] On Behalf Of Denis Parfenov Sent: May 15, 2015 6:21 PM To: OGP Civil Society group Cc: OGP Civil Society group Subject: [ogp] RE: [A2k] Global Declaration on Knowledge Discovery in the Digital Age Hi Michael and all- perhaps someone could explain to me how this approach furthers the public interest To be real, it will not further the public interest. Even if data is freely available for content mining, apart from a tiny-tiny fraction of activists, the general public has neither skills, nor time, nor energy, nor interest in spending evenings and/or weekends on cracking numbers for the common good. On the other hand, Google, FB, Twitter et al. (whose business model is based on offering "free" services, in exchange of our personal data), have no lack of financial and human resources to make the most of our personal data for increasing shareholder values and "helping" NSA/GCHQ etc. to spy on us all the way. I suggest you to watch a recent talk by Aral Balkan on this matter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh8supIUj6c Best regards, Denis -- Denis Parfenov Open Knowledge Ambassador / Open Knowledge Ireland, Founder https://openknowledge.ie/ | @OKFirl | Google+ 'Open minds to open actions' On 14 May 2015 at 12:05, Michael Gurstein > wrote: Ben, Maybe I’m not reading this correctly, and certainly there is a very sympathetic group of supporters but what I see is a statement which makes the world (legally) safe for (Big) data mining (which is at the moment as you know an anticipated gold mine for major corporations) with only some minor hand waves in the direction of the public interest whether through researchers, libraries or whatever. The document gives some useful (and IMHO appropriate) critiques of IPR’s but seems to stop there midway. Simply removing IPR restrictions on “Big Data”/data mining makes the world safe for Google et al without doing a fig for the rest of us I think. This isn't my area so perhaps I'm misreading but perhaps someone could explain to me how this approach furthers the public interest beyond what is already being widely articulated concerning the knowledge restrictive role of IPR's. If, as this document appears to intend, the effort is directed toward those concerned with the use of Big Data perhaps there could/should have been something more specific and direct concerning how to ensure that Big Data/data mining initiatives/activities are governed in the public interest; are available to be developed by those promoting the public interest; and are realized in full cognizance of the privacy, control and centralization impacts of Big Data initiatives and activities. M -----Original Message----- From: A2k [mailto:a2k-bounces at lists.keionline.org ] On Behalf Of White, Ben Sent: May 14, 2015 9:54 AM To: Nehaa Chaudhari; sccrs at infoserv.inist.fr ; a2k at lists.keionline.org ; ip-health at lists.keionline.org ; ogp at dgroups.org ; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net ; asia-commons at googlegroup.com ; discuss at 1net.org ; cc-affiliates at lists.ibiblio.org ; commons-law at sarai.net ; copysouth at copysouth.org ; digitalconsumers at lists.consumersinternational.org ; ip-dev at cis-india.org ; ip-teaching-india at googlegroups.com Subject: [A2k] Global Declaration on Knowledge Discovery in the Digital Age Dear Colleagues Sincerest apologies for cross posting. I wanted to bring to your attention the Hague Declaration On Knoweldge Discovery in the Digital Age as a member of LIBER ((Ligue des Bibliothèques Européennes de Recherche) and the Copyright, Legal and Other Matters Committee of the International Federation of Library Associations. As the massive potential of Big Data, and all other forms of data have become clear we have seen a rise in litigation to protect smaller and smaller amounts of knowledge. Over the past 10 years we have seen litigation, particularly from the newspaper industry, around the reuse of a few words from newspaper articles, or a newspaper title. We have similarly seen court cases around whether copyright pertains to a url. In 2013 we saw the European Commission organise workshops on Text and Data Mining / Big Data to discuss not limitations and exceptions, but more licences for being able to extract facts and data from materials users of copyright already had legal access to already. The point of the Hague Declaration is to protect the building blocks of knowledge – facts - from the reach of intellectual property. This is important because in order to exploit Big Data, computers must copy and synthesise the text / data, within which the facts you want to discover are sitting. This means that it is regulated by copyright law, or if in the EU database rights also. The medical, social and economic potential of this technology is hugely transformative. I would invite your organisations to read and potentially sign. Signatories will agree to share and work towards the key vision of the Declaration, which calls for changes to intellectual property (IP) law and the removal of other barriers currently preventing widened and more equal access to Big Data. IP law was not designed to regulate the free flow of facts, data and ideas, nor should it. http://thehaguedeclaration.com/the-hague-declaration-on-knowledge-discovery-in-the-digital-age/ Kind regards Ben White IFLA / LIBER P.S. 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Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 538 bytes Desc: not available URL: From parminder at itforchange.net Sun May 17 09:46:56 2015 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 19:16:56 +0530 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> Message-ID: <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> Interesting theme of this series of global congresses: 'Intellectual Property and the Public Interest' ! Wonder if you ever thought of calling it "IP and the multistakeholder Interest' ? You all have have seen the discussion I recently had with Peng Hwa, head of the AP regional IGF process for many years, who strongly argued that public interest perspective is a very unclear concept but multistakeholder perspective or interest is much easier to establish. The discussion started when I objected to the call for workshops for the AP regional IGF which was categorical that every workshop proposal must incorporate a 'multistakeholder perspective'. I suggested that it be replaced by 'public interest'. This suggestion was not accepted. So, in fact, indeed the dominant groups involved with the IGF process do seem to think that 'public interest' is a problematic concept, and the idea of 'multistakeholder perspective' or interest is a positive political evolution over it! Friends, these are serious post-democratic developments to which, it is my duty of observe, most of the civil society involved in IG area are either a silent or active accomplices. Meanwhile, of course, I wait for arguments that Internet ( unlike intellectual property!?) is a bottom up , private, etc etc, thing, and therefore its governance has to be different.... Well, lets admit it, such an arugment really does not hold unless we are intent to be misled by it - the social artefact of the Internet is no more bottom up, private, etc that the social relationships of trade and property, whose governance continue to be done in democratic fashions... Time we claimed democratic governance for the Internet as well, and rubbish the post-democratic multistakeholderist ideas that are so solidly taking root in this space, for which the IG civil society will have to answer to history. Would anyone agree that the proposed global congress on IP and public interest to be held in a 'multistakeholder' way, with equal space for the big IP holders, as one always insists for an IG meeting... What really is the difference, other than that the discourse in the IG space has been captured by powerful forces before public interest actors could assert themselves. Civil society in this area must help in re-democraticing this area, and reclaiming 'public interest'. Meanwhile, my best wishes to the the organisers of this very importanr congress. In fact some of us have been talking about holding a global congress on 'Internet governance and public interest'. Happy to talk to those who may be interested. parminder On Friday 15 May 2015 03:21 PM, Geetha Hariharan wrote: > PFA the call for participation for the Global Congress on Intellectual > Property and Public Interest. > > Apologies for cross-posting. Please do circulate to anyone you think > might be interested. > > Best, > Geetha. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Swaraj Barooah > Date: Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:05 PM > Subject: Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual > Property and the Public Interest, 2015 > > Dear all, > > We are pleased to announce the call for participation for the fourth > edition of the Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public > Interest (“Global Congress”). The theme for this year’s Congress will be > “Three Decades of Openness; Two Decades of TRIPS.” We are now inviting > applications to participate in the Congress, including session > participation and presentations. We are also welcoming proposals for > panels and workshops. > > The application form is available now at > [http://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?] Please note that this > form is for application purposes, and does not amount to confirmation of > participation. The registrations for the plenary sessions, which are > open to the public, will open closer to the date of the Global Congress. > > Deadlines > > August 1st: Priority Deadline for Applications- Applicants will be > considered on a rolling basis, with applications made by August 1st > being given first consideration. Applications after August 1st to > receive travel assistance will be considered only under exceptional > circumstances (these details will be collected in a subsequent form). > > November 1st: All applications for session participation and paper > submissions will close on November 1st. > > Application Information > > For applications to participate/host: Applications to present or host > workshops shall be considered based on the proposals to be submitted in > the form. > > For applications to attend sessions:Applications to attend sessions as > discussants will be considered based on the statement of purpose and/or > any other relevant information provided by the applicant. > > Limited travel grants to cover accommodation and/or travel to the > Congress will be available, with priority to those from developing > countries. > > Background, Theme and Expected Outcomes > > The Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest is > the most significant event on the calendar for scholars and policy > advocates working on intellectual property from a public interest > perspective. By sharing their research and strategies, the network of > experts and activists supported by the Global Congress are empowered to > put forward a positive agenda for policy reform. The Global Congress > began in Washington D.C. in 2011, moved to Rio de Janeiro in 2012, and > was held in Cape Town in 2013. The fourth Global Congress will now be > held in New Delhi, in December 2015. The event would be the largest > convening of public interest-oriented intellectual property > practitioners ever held in Asia, and would help link in the world's most > populous region to these global debates around how intellectual property > policy can best serve the public interest. > > The fourth edition of the Global Congress, which brings research, civil > society, industry and regulatory and policy-making communities together > for active, intense engagement on key public-interest intellectual > property issues. Opportunities for these groups to interact are rare but > valuable; and have been proven to lead to successful policy outcomes. > The 4thedition of the Congress, slated to be held in December, 2015 in > New Delhi seeks to be one such opportunity. > > The theme for the 2015 Congress is Three Decades of Openness; Two > Decades of TRIPS-coming at a pivotal time for reflection, revision, and > further strategizing. Specifically, the 2015 Congress seeks to produce > three outcomes- first, the mobilization of existing scholarly research > directly into the hands of civil society advocates, business leaders and > policy makers, leading to evidence-based policies and practices; > second,the collaborative identification of urgent, global and local > research priorities and generation of a joint research/advocacy agenda; > and third, the solidification of an inter-disciplinary, cross-sector and > global networked community of experts focused on public interest aspects > of IP policy and practice. > > Participation Opportunities > > Discussions at the Global Congress will be carried out in the form of > plenary sessions, thematic tracks, cross-track sessions, and the room of > scholars. Participation is invited for the thematic track sessions, > cross-track sessions and the room of scholars. > > The thematic tracks at the Global Congress are: 1) Openness, 2) Access > to Medicines, 3) User Rights, 4) IP and Development. > > Cross-track sessions will feature research that cuts across tracks in > order to facilitate engagement between tracks on themes of mutual > interest. > > The Room of Scholars will feature presentations of research outputs such > as draft works or white papers that may not fit directly within the > thematic tracks but fall within the overall theme of the Global Congress > . > > Participation could be in the form of presenting / discussing conference > papers or policy briefs, or by conducting workshops where they may share > their own work and solicit feedback from peers, during the > aforementioned sessions. > > The application form for participation is available now > athttp://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?. Please forward this > invitation to interested lists and individuals. For more information or > questions, you may contact globalcongress2015 at gmail.com > . > > Organisation > > The Centre for Internet and Society serves as the > convenor of the fourth Global Congress on Intellectual Property and > Public Interest, carried out in cooperation withNational Law University, > Delhi . > > The implementing partners arethe American > Assembly at Columbia University in New > York,Open A.I.R ., and theProgram on > Information Justice and Intellectual Property at > American University Washington College of Law in Washington DC. > > > On behalf of the organizing committee, > > Swaraj Barooah > > Swaraj Paul Barooah > Project Manager, "Global Congress" > (Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest, 2015) > > Editor-in-Chief, SpicyIP.com > Founder, Know-GAP > Twitter: @swarajpb > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From williams.deirdre at gmail.com Sun May 17 14:04:03 2015 From: williams.deirdre at gmail.com (Deirdre Williams) Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 14:04:03 -0400 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> Message-ID: "Everyone knows what multistakeholder is. That’s easy." Respectfully, (I'm making a comment/asking for clarification, not trying to pick a quarrel), I have the impression that the problem is that everyone *doesn't* know, or rather that everyone doesn't agree. "Multistakeholder" seems to me to have become a "Humpty Dumpty" word - 'When *I* use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.' (from Alice Through the Looking Glass/Lewis Carroll / http://sabian.org/looking_glass6.php) I've begun to record, for my own benefit, when how and where the term is used, and to notice those contexts in which it is not used. Does "multistakeholder" now have a stable definition? Does "multistakeholderism"? Best wishes Deirdre On 17 May 2015 at 11:13, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote: > > >So, in fact, indeed the dominant groups involved with the IGF process > do seem to think that 'public interest' is a problematic concept, and the > idea of 'multistakeholder perspective' or interest is a positive political > evolution over it! > > What a curious (mis)reading. > > First of all, I do not see how the APrIGF can be representative of > “dominant groups”. We are, at best/worst an n of 1. Nah, I would not want > to be one of the MASTERS of the UNIVERSE. > > Second, it is precisely because public interest is a problematic concept > that the APrIGF is not using that notion. We have no time to discuss it > before we roll out the meeting. Everyone knows what multistakeholder is. > That’s easy. But public interest—we could discuss it as a panel if you wish. > > It would of course have to be next year. > > But if I say that it is next year, it is because of the deadline. Not > because, once again, that public interest is not a problematic conception. > > Regards, > Peng Hwa > > From: Parminder Singh > Reply-To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" , > Parminder Singh > Date: Sunday, 17 May 2015 9:46 pm > To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" , > BestBitsList , "Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org" > > Subject: Re: [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on > Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 > > Interesting theme of this series of global congresses: 'Intellectual > Property and the Public Interest' ! > > Wonder if you ever thought of calling it "IP and the multistakeholder > Interest' ? > > You all have have seen the discussion I recently had with Peng Hwa, head > of the AP regional IGF process for many years, who strongly argued that > public interest perspective is a very unclear concept but multistakeholder > perspective or interest is much easier to establish. > > The discussion started when I objected to the call for workshops for the > AP regional IGF which was categorical that every workshop proposal must > incorporate a 'multistakeholder perspective'. I suggested that it be > replaced by 'public interest'. This suggestion was not accepted. So, in > fact, indeed the dominant groups involved with the IGF process do seem to > think that 'public interest' is a problematic concept, and the idea of > 'multistakeholder perspective' or interest is a positive political > evolution over it! > > Friends, these are serious post-democratic developments to which, it is my > duty of observe, most of the civil society involved in IG area are either a > silent or active accomplices. > > Meanwhile, of course, I wait for arguments that Internet ( unlike > intellectual property!?) is a bottom up , private, etc etc, thing, and > therefore its governance has to be different.... Well, lets admit it, such > an arugment really does not hold unless we are intent to be misled by it - > the social artefact of the Internet is no more bottom up, private, etc that > the social relationships of trade and property, whose governance continue > to be done in democratic fashions... Time we claimed democratic governance > for the Internet as well, and rubbish the post-democratic > multistakeholderist ideas that are so solidly taking root in this space, > for which the IG civil society will have to answer to history. > > Would anyone agree that the proposed global congress on IP and public > interest to be held in a 'multistakeholder' way, with equal space for the > big IP holders, as one always insists for an IG meeting... What really is > the difference, other than that the discourse in the IG space has been > captured by powerful forces before public interest actors could assert > themselves. Civil society in this area must help in re-democraticing this > area, and reclaiming 'public interest'. > > Meanwhile, my best wishes to the the organisers of this very importanr > congress. > > In fact some of us have been talking about holding a global congress on > 'Internet governance and public interest'. Happy to talk to those who may > be interested. > > parminder > > On Friday 15 May 2015 03:21 PM, Geetha Hariharan wrote: > > PFA the call for participation for the Global Congress on Intellectual > Property and Public Interest. > > Apologies for cross-posting. Please do circulate to anyone you think > might be interested. > > Best, > Geetha. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Swaraj Barooah > Date: Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:05 PM > Subject: Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual > Property and the Public Interest, 2015 > > Dear all, > > We are pleased to announce the call for participation for the fourth > edition of the Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public > Interest (“Global Congress”). The theme for this year’s Congress will be > “Three Decades of Openness; Two Decades of TRIPS.” We are now inviting > applications to participate in the Congress, including session > participation and presentations. We are also welcoming proposals for > panels and workshops. > > The application form is available now at > [http://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?] Please note that this > form is for application purposes, and does not amount to confirmation of > participation. The registrations for the plenary sessions, which are > open to the public, will open closer to the date of the Global Congress. > > Deadlines > > August 1st: Priority Deadline for Applications- Applicants will be > considered on a rolling basis, with applications made by August 1st > being given first consideration. Applications after August 1st to > receive travel assistance will be considered only under exceptional > circumstances (these details will be collected in a subsequent form). > > November 1st: All applications for session participation and paper > submissions will close on November 1st. > > Application Information > > For applications to participate/host: Applications to present or host > workshops shall be considered based on the proposals to be submitted in > the form. > > For applications to attend sessions:Applications to attend sessions as > discussants will be considered based on the statement of purpose and/or > any other relevant information provided by the applicant. > > Limited travel grants to cover accommodation and/or travel to the > Congress will be available, with priority to those from developing > countries. > > Background, Theme and Expected Outcomes > > The Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest is > the most significant event on the calendar for scholars and policy > advocates working on intellectual property from a public interest > perspective. By sharing their research and strategies, the network of > experts and activists supported by the Global Congress are empowered to > put forward a positive agenda for policy reform. The Global Congress > began in Washington D.C. in 2011, moved to Rio de Janeiro in 2012, and > was held in Cape Town in 2013. The fourth Global Congress will now be > held in New Delhi, in December 2015. The event would be the largest > convening of public interest-oriented intellectual property > practitioners ever held in Asia, and would help link in the world's most > populous region to these global debates around how intellectual property > policy can best serve the public interest. > > The fourth edition of the Global Congress, which brings research, civil > society, industry and regulatory and policy-making communities together > for active, intense engagement on key public-interest intellectual > property issues. Opportunities for these groups to interact are rare but > valuable; and have been proven to lead to successful policy outcomes. > The 4thedition of the Congress, slated to be held in December, 2015 in > New Delhi seeks to be one such opportunity. > > The theme for the 2015 Congress is Three Decades of Openness; Two > Decades of TRIPS-coming at a pivotal time for reflection, revision, and > further strategizing. Specifically, the 2015 Congress seeks to produce > three outcomes- first, the mobilization of existing scholarly research > directly into the hands of civil society advocates, business leaders and > policy makers, leading to evidence-based policies and practices; > second,the collaborative identification of urgent, global and local > research priorities and generation of a joint research/advocacy agenda; > and third, the solidification of an inter-disciplinary, cross-sector and > global networked community of experts focused on public interest aspects > of IP policy and practice. > > Participation Opportunities > > Discussions at the Global Congress will be carried out in the form of > plenary sessions, thematic tracks, cross-track sessions, and the room of > scholars. Participation is invited for the thematic track sessions, > cross-track sessions and the room of scholars. > > The thematic tracks at the Global Congress are: 1) Openness, 2) Access > to Medicines, 3) User Rights, 4) IP and Development. > > Cross-track sessions will feature research that cuts across tracks in > order to facilitate engagement between tracks on themes of mutual > interest. > > The Room of Scholars will feature presentations of research outputs such > as draft works or white papers that may not fit directly within the > thematic tracks but fall within the overall theme of the Global Congress > . > > Participation could be in the form of presenting / discussing conference > papers or policy briefs, or by conducting workshops where they may share > their own work and solicit feedback from peers, during the > aforementioned sessions. > > The application form for participation is available now > athttp://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?. Please forward this > invitation to interested lists and individuals. For more information or > questions, you may contact globalcongress2015 at gmail.com > . > > Organisation > > The Centre for Internet and Society > serves as the > convenor of the fourth Global Congress on Intellectual Property and > Public Interest, carried out in cooperation withNational Law University, > Delhi . > > The implementing partners arethe > American > Assembly at > Columbia University in New > York,Open A.I.R ., > and theProgram on > Information Justice and Intellectual Property > at > American University Washington College of Law in Washington DC. > > > On behalf of the organizing committee, > > Swaraj Barooah > > Swaraj Paul Barooah > Project Manager, "Global Congress" > (Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest, 2015) > > Editor-in-Chief, SpicyIP.com > Founder, Know-GAP > Twitter: @swarajpb > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > To be removed from the list, visit: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > [image: SG50] > ------------------------------ > CONFIDENTIALITY: This email is intended solely for the person(s) named and > may be confidential and/or privileged. 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"Multistakeholder" > seems to me to have become a "Humpty Dumpty" word - > 'When *I* use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it > means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.' > (from Alice Through the Looking Glass/Lewis Carroll / > http://sabian.org/looking_glass6.php) > I've begun to record, for my own benefit, when how and where the term is > used, and to notice those contexts in which it is not used. > Does "multistakeholder" now have a stable definition? Does > "multistakeholderism"? > Best wishes > Deirdre > > The most stable definition: *Fig leaf for US dominance* . Louis - - - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From parminder at itforchange.net Sun May 17 23:07:33 2015 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 08:37:33 +0530 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <55595775.8050901@itforchange.net> On Sunday 17 May 2015 08:43 PM, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote: > > >So, in fact, indeed the dominant groups involved with the IGF process do seem to think > that 'public interest' is a problematic concept, and the idea of > 'multistakeholder perspective' or interest is a positive political > evolution over it! > > What a curious (mis)reading. Rather more curious, Dear Peng Hwa, is that after you call my reading curious you repeat exactly what I have read. Direct quotes from your below email: "public interest is a problematic concept" AND "Everyone knows what multistakeholder is". Whereby, I understand you justify why the APrIGF call uses 'multistakeholder perspective' and did not agree to use 'public interest'. I dont see what or where I mis-read.. parminder > > First of all, I do not see how the APrIGF can be representative of > “dominant groups”. We are, at best/worst an n of 1. Nah, I would not > want to be one of the MASTERS of the UNIVERSE. > > Second, it is precisely because public interest is a problematic > concept that the APrIGF is not using that notion. We have no time to > discuss it before we roll out the meeting. Everyone knows what > multistakeholder is. That’s easy. But public interest—we could discuss > it as a panel if you wish. > > It would of course have to be next year. > > But if I say that it is next year, it is because of the deadline. Not > because, once again, that public interest is not a problematic conception. > > Regards, > Peng Hwa > > From: Parminder Singh > > Reply-To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org > " >, Parminder Singh > > > Date: Sunday, 17 May 2015 9:46 pm > To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org > " >, BestBitsList > >, > "Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org" > > Subject: Re: [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on > Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 > > Interesting theme of this series of global congresses: 'Intellectual > Property and the Public Interest' ! > > Wonder if you ever thought of calling it "IP and the multistakeholder > Interest' ? > > You all have have seen the discussion I recently had with Peng Hwa, > head of the AP regional IGF process for many years, who strongly > argued that public interest perspective is a very unclear concept but > multistakeholder perspective or interest is much easier to establish. > > The discussion started when I objected to the call for workshops for > the AP regional IGF which was categorical that every workshop proposal > must incorporate a 'multistakeholder perspective'. I suggested that it > be replaced by 'public interest'. This suggestion was not accepted. > So, in fact, indeed the dominant groups involved with the IGF process > do seem to think that 'public interest' is a problematic concept, and > the idea of 'multistakeholder perspective' or interest is a positive > political evolution over it! > > Friends, these are serious post-democratic developments to which, it > is my duty of observe, most of the civil society involved in IG area > are either a silent or active accomplices. > > Meanwhile, of course, I wait for arguments that Internet ( unlike > intellectual property!?) is a bottom up , private, etc etc, thing, and > therefore its governance has to be different.... Well, lets admit it, > such an arugment really does not hold unless we are intent to be > misled by it - the social artefact of the Internet is no more bottom > up, private, etc that the social relationships of trade and property, > whose governance continue to be done in democratic fashions... Time we > claimed democratic governance for the Internet as well, and rubbish > the post-democratic multistakeholderist ideas that are so solidly > taking root in this space, for which the IG civil society will have to > answer to history. > > Would anyone agree that the proposed global congress on IP and public > interest to be held in a 'multistakeholder' way, with equal space for > the big IP holders, as one always insists for an IG meeting... What > really is the difference, other than that the discourse in the IG > space has been captured by powerful forces before public interest > actors could assert themselves. Civil society in this area must help > in re-democraticing this area, and reclaiming 'public interest'. > > Meanwhile, my best wishes to the the organisers of this very importanr > congress. > > In fact some of us have been talking about holding a global congress > on 'Internet governance and public interest'. Happy to talk to those > who may be interested. > > parminder > > On Friday 15 May 2015 03:21 PM, Geetha Hariharan wrote: >> PFA the call for participation for the Global Congress on Intellectual >> Property and Public Interest. >> >> Apologies for cross-posting. Please do circulate to anyone you think >> might be interested. >> >> Best, >> Geetha. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Swaraj Barooah >> Date: Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:05 PM >> Subject: Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual >> Property and the Public Interest, 2015 >> >> Dear all, >> >> We are pleased to announce the call for participation for the fourth >> edition of the Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public >> Interest (“Global Congress”). The theme for this year’s Congress will be >> “Three Decades of Openness; Two Decades of TRIPS.” We are now inviting >> applications to participate in the Congress, including session >> participation and presentations. We are also welcoming proposals for >> panels and workshops. >> >> The application form is available now at >> [http://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?] Please note that this >> form is for application purposes, and does not amount to confirmation of >> participation. The registrations for the plenary sessions, which are >> open to the public, will open closer to the date of the Global Congress. >> >> Deadlines >> >> August 1st: Priority Deadline for Applications- Applicants will be >> considered on a rolling basis, with applications made by August 1st >> being given first consideration. Applications after August 1st to >> receive travel assistance will be considered only under exceptional >> circumstances (these details will be collected in a subsequent form). >> >> November 1st: All applications for session participation and paper >> submissions will close on November 1st. >> >> Application Information >> >> For applications to participate/host: Applications to present or host >> workshops shall be considered based on the proposals to be submitted in >> the form. >> >> For applications to attend sessions:Applications to attend sessions as >> discussants will be considered based on the statement of purpose and/or >> any other relevant information provided by the applicant. >> >> Limited travel grants to cover accommodation and/or travel to the >> Congress will be available, with priority to those from developing >> countries. >> >> Background, Theme and Expected Outcomes >> >> The Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest is >> the most significant event on the calendar for scholars and policy >> advocates working on intellectual property from a public interest >> perspective. By sharing their research and strategies, the network of >> experts and activists supported by the Global Congress are empowered to >> put forward a positive agenda for policy reform. The Global Congress >> began in Washington D.C. in 2011, moved to Rio de Janeiro in 2012, and >> was held in Cape Town in 2013. The fourth Global Congress will now be >> held in New Delhi, in December 2015. The event would be the largest >> convening of public interest-oriented intellectual property >> practitioners ever held in Asia, and would help link in the world's most >> populous region to these global debates around how intellectual property >> policy can best serve the public interest. >> >> The fourth edition of the Global Congress, which brings research, civil >> society, industry and regulatory and policy-making communities together >> for active, intense engagement on key public-interest intellectual >> property issues. Opportunities for these groups to interact are rare but >> valuable; and have been proven to lead to successful policy outcomes. >> The 4thedition of the Congress, slated to be held in December, 2015 in >> New Delhi seeks to be one such opportunity. >> >> The theme for the 2015 Congress is Three Decades of Openness; Two >> Decades of TRIPS-coming at a pivotal time for reflection, revision, and >> further strategizing. Specifically, the 2015 Congress seeks to produce >> three outcomes- first, the mobilization of existing scholarly research >> directly into the hands of civil society advocates, business leaders and >> policy makers, leading to evidence-based policies and practices; >> second,the collaborative identification of urgent, global and local >> research priorities and generation of a joint research/advocacy agenda; >> and third, the solidification of an inter-disciplinary, cross-sector and >> global networked community of experts focused on public interest aspects >> of IP policy and practice. >> >> Participation Opportunities >> >> Discussions at the Global Congress will be carried out in the form of >> plenary sessions, thematic tracks, cross-track sessions, and the room of >> scholars. Participation is invited for the thematic track sessions, >> cross-track sessions and the room of scholars. >> >> The thematic tracks at the Global Congress are: 1) Openness, 2) Access >> to Medicines, 3) User Rights, 4) IP and Development. >> >> Cross-track sessions will feature research that cuts across tracks in >> order to facilitate engagement between tracks on themes of mutual >> interest. >> >> The Room of Scholars will feature presentations of research outputs such >> as draft works or white papers that may not fit directly within the >> thematic tracks but fall within the overall theme of the Global Congress >> . >> >> Participation could be in the form of presenting / discussing conference >> papers or policy briefs, or by conducting workshops where they may share >> their own work and solicit feedback from peers, during the >> aforementioned sessions. >> >> The application form for participation is available now >> athttp://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?. Please forward this >> invitation to interested lists and individuals. For more information or >> questions, you may contact globalcongress2015 at gmail.com >> . >> >> Organisation >> >> The Centre for Internet and Society serves as the >> convenor of the fourth Global Congress on Intellectual Property and >> Public Interest, carried out in cooperation withNational Law University, >> Delhi . >> >> The implementing partners arethe American >> Assembly at Columbia University in New >> York,Open A.I.R ., and theProgram on >> Information Justice and Intellectual Property at >> American University Washington College of Law in Washington DC. >> >> >> On behalf of the organizing committee, >> >> Swaraj Barooah >> >> Swaraj Paul Barooah >> Project Manager, "Global Congress" >> (Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest, 2015) >> >> Editor-in-Chief, SpicyIP.com >> Founder, Know-GAP >> Twitter: @swarajpb >> > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > To be removed from the list, visit: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > SG50 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > CONFIDENTIALITY: This email is intended solely for the person(s) named > and may be confidential and/or privileged. 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URL: From seth.p.johnson at gmail.com Tue May 5 14:19:52 2015 From: seth.p.johnson at gmail.com (Seth Johnson) Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 14:19:52 -0400 Subject: [bestbits] =?UTF-8?Q?Facebook=E2=80=99s_Internet=2Eorg_Isn?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=99t_the_Internet=2C_It=E2=80=99s_Facebooknet?= Message-ID: Just gets a lot right: Facebook’s Internet.org Isn’t the Internet, It’s Facebooknet http://www.wired.com/2015/05/opinion-internet-org-facebooknet/ Seth From parminder at itforchange.net Sun May 17 23:18:19 2015 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 08:48:19 +0530 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <555959FB.9090403@itforchange.net> On Sunday 17 May 2015 08:55 PM, McTim wrote: > snip > The simplest argument is that it HAS been bottom up, open, > transparent, consensus based decision making, etc for the last 40 > years. So it IS and HAS BEEN different since inception, and has been > VERY successful. For more that 4000 years trade has been based on rules that were developed mutually among trade guilds, in a rather bottom up and consensual, and, among them, open and transparent ways ..... That did not stop trade (or property) from currently being governed by democratic, national and global, means, and I hear no argument that trade and property be governed by multistakeholder means. (Although I know, as multistakeholder-ism makes progress in the IG space, such proposals will surface. That is the plan.) The argument you give is part of a pack of make-believes that is bandied around - included through numerous well -funded 'capacity building' and such initiatives financed by the powerful - to give respectability to a model that serves the powerful and the status quo. As you can see above there is no basis of Internet exceptionalism of the kind you argue... parminder From parminder at itforchange.net Sun May 17 23:28:02 2015 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 08:58:02 +0530 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <55595C42.9050706@itforchange.net> Peng Hwa Since you seem to rely on wikipedia, before declaring that although 'everyone knows what knows what multi stakeholder is' 'public interest is a problematic concept' (both direct quotes from your email) did you look up 'public interest' in wikipedia? Well, here it is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_interest A comparative assessment of the two entries in wikipedia - respectively on MSism (multistakeholderism) and public interest - would make clear which one is clearer and less contested term. Which in turn clearly proves that an assertion in favour of 'clarity' of the MS term with respect to the 'public interest' term is not based on any kind of facts or on existing body of civilisational knoweldge . It is merely ideological, which was my prior point. And the fact that a regional IGF process takes such a bias as a given - and does not correct itself even when the 'error' is pointed out - makes a important political point, which is the political point that I have been trying to make.. parminder On Monday 18 May 2015 06:45 AM, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote: > Deirdre, > > Google > multistakeholder.https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=multistakeholder&oq=multistakeholder&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l3j69i65l2.2580j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=119&ie=UTF-8 > > The first entry is a Wiki where Norbert Bellow is quoted and where he > distinguishes between types even. > > The second entry is a glossary entry from APC. > > The third entry is an ICANNWiki entry. > > Like many words, there is a “core” meaning and moving beyond that, > more than 50 shades of greying that keeps academics employed. > > Regards, > Ang Peng Hwa > > From: Williams Deirde > > Date: Monday, 18 May 2015 2:04 am > To: Internet Governance >, Ang Peng Hwa > > > Cc: Parminder Singh >, BestBitsList > >, > "Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org" > > Subject: Re: [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on > Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 > > "Everyone knows what multistakeholder is. That’s easy." > > Respectfully, (I'm making a comment/asking for clarification, not > trying to pick a quarrel), I have the impression that the problem is > that everyone /doesn't/ know, or rather that everyone doesn't agree. > "Multistakeholder" seems to me to have become a "Humpty Dumpty" word - > 'When *I* use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, > 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.' > (from Alice Through the Looking Glass/Lewis Carroll > /http://sabian.org/looking_glass6.php) > I've begun to record, for my own benefit, when how and where the term > is used, and to notice those contexts in which it is not used. > Does "multistakeholder" now have a stable definition? Does > "multistakeholderism"? > Best wishes > Deirdre > > On 17 May 2015 at 11:13, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) > wrote: > > > >So, in fact, indeed the dominant groups involved with the IGF process > do seem to think that 'public interest' is a problematic concept, > and the idea of 'multistakeholder perspective' or interest is a > positive political evolution over it! > > What a curious (mis)reading. > > First of all, I do not see how the APrIGF can be representative of > “dominant groups”. We are, at best/worst an n of 1. Nah, I would > not want to be one of the MASTERS of the UNIVERSE. > > Second, it is precisely because public interest is a problematic > concept that the APrIGF is not using that notion. We have no time > to discuss it before we roll out the meeting. Everyone knows what > multistakeholder is. That’s easy. But public interest—we could > discuss it as a panel if you wish. > > It would of course have to be next year. > > But if I say that it is next year, it is because of the deadline. > Not because, once again, that public interest is not a problematic > conception. > > Regards, > Peng Hwa > > From: Parminder Singh > > Reply-To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org > " > >, Parminder Singh > > > Date: Sunday, 17 May 2015 9:46 pm > To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org > " > >, BestBitsList > >, "Forum at Justnetcoalition. > Org" > > Subject: Re: [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress > on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 > > Interesting theme of this series of global congresses: > 'Intellectual Property and the Public Interest' ! > > Wonder if you ever thought of calling it "IP and the > multistakeholder Interest' ? > > You all have have seen the discussion I recently had with Peng > Hwa, head of the AP regional IGF process for many years, who > strongly argued that public interest perspective is a very unclear > concept but multistakeholder perspective or interest is much > easier to establish. > > The discussion started when I objected to the call for workshops > for the AP regional IGF which was categorical that every workshop > proposal must incorporate a 'multistakeholder perspective'. I > suggested that it be replaced by 'public interest'. This > suggestion was not accepted. So, in fact, indeed the dominant > groups involved with the IGF process do seem to think that 'public > interest' is a problematic concept, and the idea of > 'multistakeholder perspective' or interest is a positive political > evolution over it! > > Friends, these are serious post-democratic developments to which, > it is my duty of observe, most of the civil society involved in IG > area are either a silent or active accomplices. > > Meanwhile, of course, I wait for arguments that Internet ( unlike > intellectual property!?) is a bottom up , private, etc etc, thing, > and therefore its governance has to be different.... Well, lets > admit it, such an arugment really does not hold unless we are > intent to be misled by it - the social artefact of the Internet is > no more bottom up, private, etc that the social relationships of > trade and property, whose governance continue to be done in > democratic fashions... Time we claimed democratic governance for > the Internet as well, and rubbish the post-democratic > multistakeholderist ideas that are so solidly taking root in this > space, for which the IG civil society will have to answer to history. > > Would anyone agree that the proposed global congress on IP and > public interest to be held in a 'multistakeholder' way, with equal > space for the big IP holders, as one always insists for an IG > meeting... What really is the difference, other than that the > discourse in the IG space has been captured by powerful forces > before public interest actors could assert themselves. Civil > society in this area must help in re-democraticing this area, and > reclaiming 'public interest'. > > Meanwhile, my best wishes to the the organisers of this very > importanr congress. > > In fact some of us have been talking about holding a global > congress on 'Internet governance and public interest'. Happy to > talk to those who may be interested. > > parminder > > On Friday 15 May 2015 03:21 PM, Geetha Hariharan wrote: >> PFA the call for participation for the Global Congress on >> Intellectual >> Property and Public Interest. >> >> Apologies for cross-posting. Please do circulate to anyone you think >> might be interested. >> >> Best, >> Geetha. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Swaraj Barooah >> Date: Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:05 PM >> Subject: Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual >> Property and the Public Interest, 2015 >> >> Dear all, >> >> We are pleased to announce the call for participation for the fourth >> edition of the Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the >> Public >> Interest (“Global Congress”). The theme for this year’s Congress >> will be >> “Three Decades of Openness; Two Decades of TRIPS.” We are now >> inviting >> applications to participate in the Congress, including session >> participation and presentations. We are also welcoming proposals for >> panels and workshops. >> >> The application form is available now at >> [http://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?] Please note >> that this >> form is for application purposes, and does not amount to >> confirmation of >> participation. The registrations for the plenary sessions, which are >> open to the public, will open closer to the date of the Global >> Congress. >> >> Deadlines >> >> August 1st: Priority Deadline for Applications- Applicants will be >> considered on a rolling basis, with applications made by August 1st >> being given first consideration. Applications after August 1st to >> receive travel assistance will be considered only under exceptional >> circumstances (these details will be collected in a subsequent form). >> >> November 1st: All applications for session participation and paper >> submissions will close on November 1st. >> >> Application Information >> >> For applications to participate/host: Applications to present or host >> workshops shall be considered based on the proposals to be >> submitted in >> the form. >> >> For applications to attend sessions:Applications to attend >> sessions as >> discussants will be considered based on the statement of purpose >> and/or >> any other relevant information provided by the applicant. >> >> Limited travel grants to cover accommodation and/or travel to the >> Congress will be available, with priority to those from developing >> countries. >> >> Background, Theme and Expected Outcomes >> >> The Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public >> Interest is >> the most significant event on the calendar for scholars and policy >> advocates working on intellectual property from a public interest >> perspective. By sharing their research and strategies, the network of >> experts and activists supported by the Global Congress are >> empowered to >> put forward a positive agenda for policy reform. The Global Congress >> began in Washington D.C. in 2011, moved to Rio de Janeiro in >> 2012, and >> was held in Cape Town in 2013. The fourth Global Congress will now be >> held in New Delhi, in December 2015. The event would be the largest >> convening of public interest-oriented intellectual property >> practitioners ever held in Asia, and would help link in the >> world's most >> populous region to these global debates around how intellectual >> property >> policy can best serve the public interest. >> >> The fourth edition of the Global Congress, which brings research, >> civil >> society, industry and regulatory and policy-making communities >> together >> for active, intense engagement on key public-interest intellectual >> property issues. Opportunities for these groups to interact are >> rare but >> valuable; and have been proven to lead to successful policy outcomes. >> The 4thedition of the Congress, slated to be held in December, >> 2015 in >> New Delhi seeks to be one such opportunity. >> >> The theme for the 2015 Congress is Three Decades of Openness; Two >> Decades of TRIPS-coming at a pivotal time for reflection, >> revision, and >> further strategizing. Specifically, the 2015 Congress seeks to >> produce >> three outcomes- first, the mobilization of existing scholarly >> research >> directly into the hands of civil society advocates, business >> leaders and >> policy makers, leading to evidence-based policies and practices; >> second,the collaborative identification of urgent, global and local >> research priorities and generation of a joint research/advocacy >> agenda; >> and third, the solidification of an inter-disciplinary, >> cross-sector and >> global networked community of experts focused on public interest >> aspects >> of IP policy and practice. >> >> Participation Opportunities >> >> Discussions at the Global Congress will be carried out in the form of >> plenary sessions, thematic tracks, cross-track sessions, and the >> room of >> scholars. Participation is invited for the thematic track sessions, >> cross-track sessions and the room of scholars. >> >> The thematic tracks at the Global Congress are: 1) Openness, 2) >> Access >> to Medicines, 3) User Rights, 4) IP and Development. >> >> Cross-track sessions will feature research that cuts across tracks in >> order to facilitate engagement between tracks on themes of mutual >> interest. >> >> The Room of Scholars will feature presentations of research >> outputs such >> as draft works or white papers that may not fit directly within the >> thematic tracks but fall within the overall theme of the Global >> Congress >> . >> >> Participation could be in the form of presenting / discussing >> conference >> papers or policy briefs, or by conducting workshops where they >> may share >> their own work and solicit feedback from peers, during the >> aforementioned sessions. >> >> The application form for participation is available now >> athttp://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?. Please forward >> this >> invitation to interested lists and individuals. For more >> information or >> questions, you may contact globalcongress2015 at gmail.com >> >> >> . >> >> Organisation >> >> The Centre for Internet and Society >> serves as the >> convenor of the fourth Global Congress on Intellectual Property and >> Public Interest, carried out in cooperation withNational Law >> University, >> Delhi . >> >> The implementing partners arethe >> American >> Assembly >> at Columbia University in New >> York,Open A.I.R >> ., and theProgram on >> Information Justice and Intellectual Property >> at >> American University Washington College of Law in Washington DC. >> >> >> On behalf of the organizing committee, >> >> Swaraj Barooah >> >> Swaraj Paul Barooah >> Project Manager, "Global Congress" >> (Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest, 2015) >> >> Editor-in-Chief, SpicyIP.com >> >> Founder, Know-GAP >> Twitter: @swarajpb >> > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > > To be removed from the list, visit: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > SG50 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > CONFIDENTIALITY: This email is intended solely for the person(s) > named and may be confidential and/or privileged. 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URL: From parminder at itforchange.net Sun May 17 23:39:17 2015 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 09:09:17 +0530 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <55595EE5.5070507@itforchange.net> On Sunday 17 May 2015 10:55 PM, azrak_khan at hotmail.com wrote: > Parminder please shed some light on whether civil society is working > on public interest or has it become a tool for global organization at > times very powerful corporations to pursue their own agendas. Arzak, since you ask a clear and direct question I would give a clear and honest response. My apologies if it makes some people here unhappy. In my view, yes, the manner in which much of global civil society has worked in the IG space, it has served the agenda of the powerful corporations. The most important way this happens is through its promotion of a deliberately confusing and unclear MS model of governance whose real purpose is to not let any real and effective governance of the Internet and the larger information society space take root, which of course is the agenda of the most powerful players in the field - the big global corporations backed by the US government. I keep making this point, hoping to contribute to some kind of course correction. parminder > > Best, > Arzak > > > Sent by Outlook for Android > > > > On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 6:47 AM -0700, "parminder" > > wrote: > > Interesting theme of this series of global congresses: 'Intellectual > Property and the Public Interest' ! > > Wonder if you ever thought of calling it "IP and the multistakeholder > Interest' ? > > You all have have seen the discussion I recently had with Peng Hwa, > head of the AP regional IGF process for many years, who strongly > argued that public interest perspective is a very unclear concept but > multistakeholder perspective or interest is much easier to establish. > > The discussion started when I objected to the call for workshops for > the AP regional IGF which was categorical that every workshop proposal > must incorporate a 'multistakeholder perspective'. I suggested that it > be replaced by 'public interest'. This suggestion was not accepted. > So, in fact, indeed the dominant groups involved with the IGF process > do seem to think that 'public interest' is a problematic concept, and > the idea of 'multistakeholder perspective' or interest is a positive > political evolution over it! > > Friends, these are serious post-democratic developments to which, it > is my duty of observe, most of the civil society involved in IG area > are either a silent or active accomplices. > > Meanwhile, of course, I wait for arguments that Internet ( unlike > intellectual property!?) is a bottom up , private, etc etc, thing, and > therefore its governance has to be different.... Well, lets admit it, > such an arugment really does not hold unless we are intent to be > misled by it - the social artefact of the Internet is no more bottom > up, private, etc that the social relationships of trade and property, > whose governance continue to be done in democratic fashions... Time we > claimed democratic governance for the Internet as well, and rubbish > the post-democratic multistakeholderist ideas that are so solidly > taking root in this space, for which the IG civil society will have to > answer to history. > > Would anyone agree that the proposed global congress on IP and public > interest to be held in a 'multistakeholder' way, with equal space for > the big IP holders, as one always insists for an IG meeting... What > really is the difference, other than that the discourse in the IG > space has been captured by powerful forces before public interest > actors could assert themselves. Civil society in this area must help > in re-democraticing this area, and reclaiming 'public interest'. > > Meanwhile, my best wishes to the the organisers of this very importanr > congress. > > In fact some of us have been talking about holding a global congress > on 'Internet governance and public interest'. Happy to talk to those > who may be interested. > > parminder > > On Friday 15 May 2015 03:21 PM, Geetha Hariharan wrote: >> PFA the call for participation for the Global Congress on Intellectual >> Property and Public Interest. >> >> Apologies for cross-posting. Please do circulate to anyone you think >> might be interested. >> >> Best, >> Geetha. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Swaraj Barooah >> Date: Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:05 PM >> Subject: Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual >> Property and the Public Interest, 2015 >> >> Dear all, >> >> We are pleased to announce the call for participation for the fourth >> edition of the Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public >> Interest (“Global Congress”). The theme for this year’s Congress will be >> “Three Decades of Openness; Two Decades of TRIPS.” We are now inviting >> applications to participate in the Congress, including session >> participation and presentations. We are also welcoming proposals for >> panels and workshops. >> >> The application form is available now at >> [http://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?] Please note that this >> form is for application purposes, and does not amount to confirmation of >> participation. The registrations for the plenary sessions, which are >> open to the public, will open closer to the date of the Global Congress. >> >> Deadlines >> >> August 1st: Priority Deadline for Applications- Applicants will be >> considered on a rolling basis, with applications made by August 1st >> being given first consideration. Applications after August 1st to >> receive travel assistance will be considered only under exceptional >> circumstances (these details will be collected in a subsequent form). >> >> November 1st: All applications for session participation and paper >> submissions will close on November 1st. >> >> Application Information >> >> For applications to participate/host: Applications to present or host >> workshops shall be considered based on the proposals to be submitted in >> the form. >> >> For applications to attend sessions:Applications to attend sessions as >> discussants will be considered based on the statement of purpose and/or >> any other relevant information provided by the applicant. >> >> Limited travel grants to cover accommodation and/or travel to the >> Congress will be available, with priority to those from developing >> countries. >> >> Background, Theme and Expected Outcomes >> >> The Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest is >> the most significant event on the calendar for scholars and policy >> advocates working on intellectual property from a public interest >> perspective. By sharing their research and strategies, the network of >> experts and activists supported by the Global Congress are empowered to >> put forward a positive agenda for policy reform. The Global Congress >> began in Washington D.C. in 2011, moved to Rio de Janeiro in 2012, and >> was held in Cape Town in 2013. The fourth Global Congress will now be >> held in New Delhi, in December 2015. The event would be the largest >> convening of public interest-oriented intellectual property >> practitioners ever held in Asia, and would help link in the world's most >> populous region to these global debates around how intellectual property >> policy can best serve the public interest. >> >> The fourth edition of the Global Congress, which brings research, civil >> society, industry and regulatory and policy-making communities together >> for active, intense engagement on key public-interest intellectual >> property issues. Opportunities for these groups to interact are rare but >> valuable; and have been proven to lead to successful policy outcomes. >> The 4thedition of the Congress, slated to be held in December, 2015 in >> New Delhi seeks to be one such opportunity. >> >> The theme for the 2015 Congress is Three Decades of Openness; Two >> Decades of TRIPS-coming at a pivotal time for reflection, revision, and >> further strategizing. Specifically, the 2015 Congress seeks to produce >> three outcomes- first, the mobilization of existing scholarly research >> directly into the hands of civil society advocates, business leaders and >> policy makers, leading to evidence-based policies and practices; >> second,the collaborative identification of urgent, global and local >> research priorities and generation of a joint research/advocacy agenda; >> and third, the solidification of an inter-disciplinary, cross-sector and >> global networked community of experts focused on public interest aspects >> of IP policy and practice. >> >> Participation Opportunities >> >> Discussions at the Global Congress will be carried out in the form of >> plenary sessions, thematic tracks, cross-track sessions, and the room of >> scholars. Participation is invited for the thematic track sessions, >> cross-track sessions and the room of scholars. >> >> The thematic tracks at the Global Congress are: 1) Openness, 2) Access >> to Medicines, 3) User Rights, 4) IP and Development. >> >> Cross-track sessions will feature research that cuts across tracks in >> order to facilitate engagement between tracks on themes of mutual >> interest. >> >> The Room of Scholars will feature presentations of research outputs such >> as draft works or white papers that may not fit directly within the >> thematic tracks but fall within the overall theme of the Global Congress >> . >> >> Participation could be in the form of presenting / discussing conference >> papers or policy briefs, or by conducting workshops where they may share >> their own work and solicit feedback from peers, during the >> aforementioned sessions. >> >> The application form for participation is available now >> athttp://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?. Please forward this >> invitation to interested lists and individuals. For more information or >> questions, you may contact globalcongress2015 at gmail.com >> >> >> . >> >> Organisation >> >> The Centre for Internet and Society >> serves as the >> convenor of the fourth Global Congress on Intellectual Property and >> Public Interest, carried out in cooperation withNational Law University, >> Delhi . >> >> The implementing partners arethe >> American >> Assembly >> at Columbia University in New >> York,Open A.I.R >> ., and theProgram on >> Information Justice and Intellectual Property >> at >> American University Washington College of Law in Washington DC. >> >> >> On behalf of the organizing committee, >> >> Swaraj Barooah >> >> Swaraj Paul Barooah >> Project Manager, "Global Congress" >> (Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest, 2015) >> >> Editor-in-Chief, SpicyIP.com >> Founder, Know-GAP >> Twitter: @swarajpb >> > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > > To be removed from the list, visit: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From parminder at itforchange.net Sun May 17 23:53:05 2015 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 09:23:05 +0530 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <55595775.8050901@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <55596221.4060409@itforchange.net> On Monday 18 May 2015 09:10 AM, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote: > Parminder, > > There is no agreement that public interest is a problematic concept. I am sure everyone can read for themselves the emails that you wrote since yesterday and in the earlier discussion we had on these lists 2nd and 3rd April on exactly this point. It is difficult for me to sustain a discussion if you first strongly push an argument that then say that is not the argument. > > It’s your interpretation of the term not being featured in at APrIGF > that is curious. My interpretation!! I objected to the manner the term was used in the AprIGF call forwarded by Anja. Anja never responded, neither did other people associated with APrIGF many of them being on this list. You responded by saying that 'public interest is not a clear term' but it is easy to understand and arrive at what is multistakeholder perspective. And now you are calling it my interpretation. I am really confounded. parminder > > Regards, > Peng Hwa > > From: Parminder Singh > > Date: Monday, 18 May 2015 11:07 am > To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org > " >, Ang Peng Hwa > >, BestBitsList > >, > "Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org" > > Subject: Re: [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on > Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 > > > > On Sunday 17 May 2015 08:43 PM, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote: >> >> >So, in fact, indeed the dominant groups involved with the IGF process do seem to >> think that 'public interest' is a problematic concept, and the idea >> of 'multistakeholder perspective' or interest is a positive political >> evolution over it! >> >> What a curious (mis)reading. > > Rather more curious, Dear Peng Hwa, is that after you call my reading > curious you repeat exactly what I have read. > > Direct quotes from your below email: "public interest is a > problematic concept" AND "Everyone knows what multistakeholder is". > > Whereby, I understand you justify why the APrIGF call uses > 'multistakeholder perspective' and did not agree to use 'public > interest'. I dont see what or where I mis-read.. > > parminder >> >> First of all, I do not see how the APrIGF can be representative of >> “dominant groups”. We are, at best/worst an n of 1. Nah, I would not >> want to be one of the MASTERS of the UNIVERSE. >> >> Second, it is precisely because public interest is a problematic >> concept that the APrIGF is not using that notion. We have no time to >> discuss it before we roll out the meeting. Everyone knows what >> multistakeholder is. That’s easy. But public interest—we could >> discuss it as a panel if you wish. >> >> It would of course have to be next year. >> >> But if I say that it is next year, it is because of the deadline. Not >> because, once again, that public interest is not a problematic >> conception. >> >> Regards, >> Peng Hwa >> >> From: Parminder Singh > > >> Reply-To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> " >> > >, Parminder Singh >> > >> Date: Sunday, 17 May 2015 9:46 pm >> To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> " >> > >, BestBitsList >> >, >> "Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org" > > >> Subject: Re: [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on >> Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 >> >> Interesting theme of this series of global congresses: 'Intellectual >> Property and the Public Interest' ! >> >> Wonder if you ever thought of calling it "IP and the multistakeholder >> Interest' ? >> >> You all have have seen the discussion I recently had with Peng Hwa, >> head of the AP regional IGF process for many years, who strongly >> argued that public interest perspective is a very unclear concept but >> multistakeholder perspective or interest is much easier to establish. >> >> The discussion started when I objected to the call for workshops for >> the AP regional IGF which was categorical that every workshop >> proposal must incorporate a 'multistakeholder perspective'. I >> suggested that it be replaced by 'public interest'. This suggestion >> was not accepted. So, in fact, indeed the dominant groups involved >> with the IGF process do seem to think that 'public interest' is a >> problematic concept, and the idea of 'multistakeholder perspective' >> or interest is a positive political evolution over it! >> >> Friends, these are serious post-democratic developments to which, it >> is my duty of observe, most of the civil society involved in IG area >> are either a silent or active accomplices. >> >> Meanwhile, of course, I wait for arguments that Internet ( unlike >> intellectual property!?) is a bottom up , private, etc etc, thing, >> and therefore its governance has to be different.... Well, lets >> admit it, such an arugment really does not hold unless we are intent >> to be misled by it - the social artefact of the Internet is no more >> bottom up, private, etc that the social relationships of trade and >> property, whose governance continue to be done in democratic >> fashions... Time we claimed democratic governance for the Internet as >> well, and rubbish the post-democratic multistakeholderist ideas that >> are so solidly taking root in this space, for which the IG civil >> society will have to answer to history. >> >> Would anyone agree that the proposed global congress on IP and public >> interest to be held in a 'multistakeholder' way, with equal space for >> the big IP holders, as one always insists for an IG meeting... What >> really is the difference, other than that the discourse in the IG >> space has been captured by powerful forces before public interest >> actors could assert themselves. Civil society in this area must help >> in re-democraticing this area, and reclaiming 'public interest'. >> >> Meanwhile, my best wishes to the the organisers of this very >> importanr congress. >> >> In fact some of us have been talking about holding a global congress >> on 'Internet governance and public interest'. Happy to talk to those >> who may be interested. >> >> parminder >> >> On Friday 15 May 2015 03:21 PM, Geetha Hariharan wrote: >>> PFA the call for participation for the Global Congress on Intellectual >>> Property and Public Interest. >>> >>> Apologies for cross-posting. Please do circulate to anyone you think >>> might be interested. >>> >>> Best, >>> Geetha. >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Swaraj Barooah >>> Date: Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:05 PM >>> Subject: Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual >>> Property and the Public Interest, 2015 >>> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> We are pleased to announce the call for participation for the fourth >>> edition of the Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public >>> Interest (“Global Congress”). The theme for this year’s Congress will be >>> “Three Decades of Openness; Two Decades of TRIPS.” We are now inviting >>> applications to participate in the Congress, including session >>> participation and presentations. We are also welcoming proposals for >>> panels and workshops. >>> >>> The application form is available now at >>> [http://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?] Please note that this >>> form is for application purposes, and does not amount to confirmation of >>> participation. The registrations for the plenary sessions, which are >>> open to the public, will open closer to the date of the Global Congress. >>> >>> Deadlines >>> >>> August 1st: Priority Deadline for Applications- Applicants will be >>> considered on a rolling basis, with applications made by August 1st >>> being given first consideration. Applications after August 1st to >>> receive travel assistance will be considered only under exceptional >>> circumstances (these details will be collected in a subsequent form). >>> >>> November 1st: All applications for session participation and paper >>> submissions will close on November 1st. >>> >>> Application Information >>> >>> For applications to participate/host: Applications to present or host >>> workshops shall be considered based on the proposals to be submitted in >>> the form. >>> >>> For applications to attend sessions:Applications to attend sessions as >>> discussants will be considered based on the statement of purpose and/or >>> any other relevant information provided by the applicant. >>> >>> Limited travel grants to cover accommodation and/or travel to the >>> Congress will be available, with priority to those from developing >>> countries. >>> >>> Background, Theme and Expected Outcomes >>> >>> The Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest is >>> the most significant event on the calendar for scholars and policy >>> advocates working on intellectual property from a public interest >>> perspective. By sharing their research and strategies, the network of >>> experts and activists supported by the Global Congress are empowered to >>> put forward a positive agenda for policy reform. The Global Congress >>> began in Washington D.C. in 2011, moved to Rio de Janeiro in 2012, and >>> was held in Cape Town in 2013. The fourth Global Congress will now be >>> held in New Delhi, in December 2015. The event would be the largest >>> convening of public interest-oriented intellectual property >>> practitioners ever held in Asia, and would help link in the world's most >>> populous region to these global debates around how intellectual property >>> policy can best serve the public interest. >>> >>> The fourth edition of the Global Congress, which brings research, civil >>> society, industry and regulatory and policy-making communities together >>> for active, intense engagement on key public-interest intellectual >>> property issues. Opportunities for these groups to interact are rare but >>> valuable; and have been proven to lead to successful policy outcomes. >>> The 4thedition of the Congress, slated to be held in December, 2015 in >>> New Delhi seeks to be one such opportunity. >>> >>> The theme for the 2015 Congress is Three Decades of Openness; Two >>> Decades of TRIPS-coming at a pivotal time for reflection, revision, and >>> further strategizing. Specifically, the 2015 Congress seeks to produce >>> three outcomes- first, the mobilization of existing scholarly research >>> directly into the hands of civil society advocates, business leaders and >>> policy makers, leading to evidence-based policies and practices; >>> second,the collaborative identification of urgent, global and local >>> research priorities and generation of a joint research/advocacy agenda; >>> and third, the solidification of an inter-disciplinary, cross-sector and >>> global networked community of experts focused on public interest aspects >>> of IP policy and practice. >>> >>> Participation Opportunities >>> >>> Discussions at the Global Congress will be carried out in the form of >>> plenary sessions, thematic tracks, cross-track sessions, and the room of >>> scholars. Participation is invited for the thematic track sessions, >>> cross-track sessions and the room of scholars. >>> >>> The thematic tracks at the Global Congress are: 1) Openness, 2) Access >>> to Medicines, 3) User Rights, 4) IP and Development. >>> >>> Cross-track sessions will feature research that cuts across tracks in >>> order to facilitate engagement between tracks on themes of mutual >>> interest. >>> >>> The Room of Scholars will feature presentations of research outputs such >>> as draft works or white papers that may not fit directly within the >>> thematic tracks but fall within the overall theme of the Global Congress >>> . >>> >>> Participation could be in the form of presenting / discussing conference >>> papers or policy briefs, or by conducting workshops where they may share >>> their own work and solicit feedback from peers, during the >>> aforementioned sessions. >>> >>> The application form for participation is available now >>> athttp://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?. Please forward this >>> invitation to interested lists and individuals. For more information or >>> questions, you may contact globalcongress2015 at gmail.com >>> . >>> >>> Organisation >>> >>> The Centre for Internet and Society serves as the >>> convenor of the fourth Global Congress on Intellectual Property and >>> Public Interest, carried out in cooperation withNational Law University, >>> Delhi . >>> >>> The implementing partners arethe American >>> Assembly at Columbia University in New >>> York,Open A.I.R ., and theProgram on >>> Information Justice and Intellectual Property at >>> American University Washington College of Law in Washington DC. >>> >>> >>> On behalf of the organizing committee, >>> >>> Swaraj Barooah >>> >>> Swaraj Paul Barooah >>> Project Manager, "Global Congress" >>> (Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest, 2015) >>> >>> Editor-in-Chief, SpicyIP.com >>> Founder, Know-GAP >>> Twitter: @swarajpb >>> >> > >> > >> > ____________________________________________________________ >> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> > To be removed from the list, visit: >> > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> > >> > For all other list information and functions, see: >> > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> > http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> > >> > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> >> SG50 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> CONFIDENTIALITY: This email is intended solely for the person(s) >> named and may be confidential and/or privileged. 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May be could we even talk of "Occupied America" and consider the attempts of the American Patriotic Resistance subject to the "Patriot Act", as we will be by the French Super Patriot Act. jfc > . >Louis >- - - >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >Content-Disposition: inline > >____________________________________________________________ >You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > >For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > >Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From williams.deirdre at gmail.com Mon May 18 09:34:18 2015 From: williams.deirdre at gmail.com (Deirdre Williams) Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 09:34:18 -0400 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> Message-ID: Dear Ang Peng Hwa, I am uncomfortable with a word that is defined so often in terms of itself and yet has become prescriptive. It is interesting that the Chair's Statement from the Global Conference on Cyberspace managed to avoid using "multistakeholder" and "stakeholder" for the section on Capacity Building (paragraphs 48-51, pp 8,9) The "more than 50 shades of greying that keeps academics employed" - well at least the term is serving some useful purpose? :-) Best wishes Deirdre On 17 May 2015 at 21:15, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote: > Deirdre, > > Google multistakeholder. > https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=multistakeholder&oq=multistakeholder&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l3j69i65l2.2580j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=119&ie=UTF-8 > > The first entry is a Wiki where Norbert Bellow is quoted and where he > distinguishes between types even. > > The second entry is a glossary entry from APC. > > The third entry is an ICANNWiki entry. > > Like many words, there is a “core” meaning and moving beyond that, more > than 50 shades of greying that keeps academics employed. > > Regards, > Ang Peng Hwa > > From: Williams Deirde > Date: Monday, 18 May 2015 2:04 am > To: Internet Governance , Ang Peng Hwa < > tphang at ntu.edu.sg> > Cc: Parminder Singh , BestBitsList < > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>, "Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org" < > forum at justnetcoalition.org> > > Subject: Re: [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on > Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 > > "Everyone knows what multistakeholder is. That’s easy." > > Respectfully, (I'm making a comment/asking for clarification, not trying > to pick a quarrel), I have the impression that the problem is that everyone > *doesn't* know, or rather that everyone doesn't agree. "Multistakeholder" > seems to me to have become a "Humpty Dumpty" word - > 'When *I* use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it > means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.' > (from Alice Through the Looking Glass/Lewis Carroll / > http://sabian.org/looking_glass6.php) > I've begun to record, for my own benefit, when how and where the term is > used, and to notice those contexts in which it is not used. > Does "multistakeholder" now have a stable definition? Does > "multistakeholderism"? > Best wishes > Deirdre > > On 17 May 2015 at 11:13, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote: > >> >> >So, in fact, indeed the dominant groups involved with the IGF process >> do seem to think that 'public interest' is a problematic concept, and the >> idea of 'multistakeholder perspective' or interest is a positive political >> evolution over it! >> >> What a curious (mis)reading. >> >> First of all, I do not see how the APrIGF can be representative of >> “dominant groups”. We are, at best/worst an n of 1. Nah, I would not want >> to be one of the MASTERS of the UNIVERSE. >> >> Second, it is precisely because public interest is a problematic >> concept that the APrIGF is not using that notion. We have no time to >> discuss it before we roll out the meeting. Everyone knows what >> multistakeholder is. That’s easy. But public interest—we could discuss it >> as a panel if you wish. >> >> It would of course have to be next year. >> >> But if I say that it is next year, it is because of the deadline. Not >> because, once again, that public interest is not a problematic conception. >> >> Regards, >> Peng Hwa >> >> From: Parminder Singh >> Reply-To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" , >> Parminder Singh >> Date: Sunday, 17 May 2015 9:46 pm >> To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" , >> BestBitsList , "Forum at Justnetcoalition. >> Org" >> Subject: Re: [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on >> Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 >> >> Interesting theme of this series of global congresses: 'Intellectual >> Property and the Public Interest' ! >> >> Wonder if you ever thought of calling it "IP and the multistakeholder >> Interest' ? >> >> You all have have seen the discussion I recently had with Peng Hwa, head >> of the AP regional IGF process for many years, who strongly argued that >> public interest perspective is a very unclear concept but multistakeholder >> perspective or interest is much easier to establish. >> >> The discussion started when I objected to the call for workshops for the >> AP regional IGF which was categorical that every workshop proposal must >> incorporate a 'multistakeholder perspective'. I suggested that it be >> replaced by 'public interest'. This suggestion was not accepted. So, in >> fact, indeed the dominant groups involved with the IGF process do seem to >> think that 'public interest' is a problematic concept, and the idea of >> 'multistakeholder perspective' or interest is a positive political >> evolution over it! >> >> Friends, these are serious post-democratic developments to which, it is >> my duty of observe, most of the civil society involved in IG area are >> either a silent or active accomplices. >> >> Meanwhile, of course, I wait for arguments that Internet ( unlike >> intellectual property!?) is a bottom up , private, etc etc, thing, and >> therefore its governance has to be different.... Well, lets admit it, such >> an arugment really does not hold unless we are intent to be misled by it - >> the social artefact of the Internet is no more bottom up, private, etc that >> the social relationships of trade and property, whose governance continue >> to be done in democratic fashions... Time we claimed democratic governance >> for the Internet as well, and rubbish the post-democratic >> multistakeholderist ideas that are so solidly taking root in this space, >> for which the IG civil society will have to answer to history. >> >> Would anyone agree that the proposed global congress on IP and public >> interest to be held in a 'multistakeholder' way, with equal space for the >> big IP holders, as one always insists for an IG meeting... What really is >> the difference, other than that the discourse in the IG space has been >> captured by powerful forces before public interest actors could assert >> themselves. Civil society in this area must help in re-democraticing this >> area, and reclaiming 'public interest'. >> >> Meanwhile, my best wishes to the the organisers of this very importanr >> congress. >> >> In fact some of us have been talking about holding a global congress on >> 'Internet governance and public interest'. Happy to talk to those who may >> be interested. >> >> parminder >> >> On Friday 15 May 2015 03:21 PM, Geetha Hariharan wrote: >> >> PFA the call for participation for the Global Congress on Intellectual >> Property and Public Interest. >> >> Apologies for cross-posting. Please do circulate to anyone you think >> might be interested. >> >> Best, >> Geetha. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Swaraj Barooah >> Date: Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:05 PM >> Subject: Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual >> Property and the Public Interest, 2015 >> >> Dear all, >> >> We are pleased to announce the call for participation for the fourth >> edition of the Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public >> Interest (“Global Congress”). The theme for this year’s Congress will be >> “Three Decades of Openness; Two Decades of TRIPS.” We are now inviting >> applications to participate in the Congress, including session >> participation and presentations. We are also welcoming proposals for >> panels and workshops. >> >> The application form is available now at >> [http://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?] Please note that this >> form is for application purposes, and does not amount to confirmation of >> participation. The registrations for the plenary sessions, which are >> open to the public, will open closer to the date of the Global Congress. >> >> Deadlines >> >> August 1st: Priority Deadline for Applications- Applicants will be >> considered on a rolling basis, with applications made by August 1st >> being given first consideration. Applications after August 1st to >> receive travel assistance will be considered only under exceptional >> circumstances (these details will be collected in a subsequent form). >> >> November 1st: All applications for session participation and paper >> submissions will close on November 1st. >> >> Application Information >> >> For applications to participate/host: Applications to present or host >> workshops shall be considered based on the proposals to be submitted in >> the form. >> >> For applications to attend sessions:Applications to attend sessions as >> discussants will be considered based on the statement of purpose and/or >> any other relevant information provided by the applicant. >> >> Limited travel grants to cover accommodation and/or travel to the >> Congress will be available, with priority to those from developing >> countries. >> >> Background, Theme and Expected Outcomes >> >> The Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest is >> the most significant event on the calendar for scholars and policy >> advocates working on intellectual property from a public interest >> perspective. By sharing their research and strategies, the network of >> experts and activists supported by the Global Congress are empowered to >> put forward a positive agenda for policy reform. The Global Congress >> began in Washington D.C. in 2011, moved to Rio de Janeiro in 2012, and >> was held in Cape Town in 2013. The fourth Global Congress will now be >> held in New Delhi, in December 2015. The event would be the largest >> convening of public interest-oriented intellectual property >> practitioners ever held in Asia, and would help link in the world's most >> populous region to these global debates around how intellectual property >> policy can best serve the public interest. >> >> The fourth edition of the Global Congress, which brings research, civil >> society, industry and regulatory and policy-making communities together >> for active, intense engagement on key public-interest intellectual >> property issues. Opportunities for these groups to interact are rare but >> valuable; and have been proven to lead to successful policy outcomes. >> The 4thedition of the Congress, slated to be held in December, 2015 in >> New Delhi seeks to be one such opportunity. >> >> The theme for the 2015 Congress is Three Decades of Openness; Two >> Decades of TRIPS-coming at a pivotal time for reflection, revision, and >> further strategizing. Specifically, the 2015 Congress seeks to produce >> three outcomes- first, the mobilization of existing scholarly research >> directly into the hands of civil society advocates, business leaders and >> policy makers, leading to evidence-based policies and practices; >> second,the collaborative identification of urgent, global and local >> research priorities and generation of a joint research/advocacy agenda; >> and third, the solidification of an inter-disciplinary, cross-sector and >> global networked community of experts focused on public interest aspects >> of IP policy and practice. >> >> Participation Opportunities >> >> Discussions at the Global Congress will be carried out in the form of >> plenary sessions, thematic tracks, cross-track sessions, and the room of >> scholars. Participation is invited for the thematic track sessions, >> cross-track sessions and the room of scholars. >> >> The thematic tracks at the Global Congress are: 1) Openness, 2) Access >> to Medicines, 3) User Rights, 4) IP and Development. >> >> Cross-track sessions will feature research that cuts across tracks in >> order to facilitate engagement between tracks on themes of mutual >> interest. >> >> The Room of Scholars will feature presentations of research outputs such >> as draft works or white papers that may not fit directly within the >> thematic tracks but fall within the overall theme of the Global Congress >> . >> >> Participation could be in the form of presenting / discussing conference >> papers or policy briefs, or by conducting workshops where they may share >> their own work and solicit feedback from peers, during the >> aforementioned sessions. >> >> The application form for participation is available now >> athttp://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?. Please forward this >> invitation to interested lists and individuals. For more information or >> questions, you may contact globalcongress2015 at gmail.com >> . >> >> Organisation >> >> The Centre for Internet and Society >> serves as the >> convenor of the fourth Global Congress on Intellectual Property and >> Public Interest, carried out in cooperation withNational Law University, >> Delhi . >> >> The implementing partners arethe >> American >> Assembly at >> Columbia University in New >> York,Open A.I.R ., >> and theProgram on >> Information Justice and Intellectual Property >> at >> American University Washington College of Law in Washington DC. >> >> >> On behalf of the organizing committee, >> >> Swaraj Barooah >> >> Swaraj Paul Barooah >> Project Manager, "Global Congress" >> (Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest, 2015) >> >> Editor-in-Chief, SpicyIP.com >> Founder, Know-GAP >> Twitter: @swarajpb >> >> > >> > >> > ____________________________________________________________ >> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> > To be removed from the list, visit: >> > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> > >> > For all other list information and functions, see: >> > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> > http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> > >> > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> >> [image: SG50] >> ------------------------------ >> CONFIDENTIALITY: This email is intended solely for the person(s) named >> and may be confidential and/or privileged. 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URL: From dogwallah at gmail.com Sun May 17 11:25:14 2015 From: dogwallah at gmail.com (McTim) Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 11:25:14 -0400 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> Message-ID: On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 9:46 AM, parminder wrote: > > Meanwhile, of course, I wait for arguments that Internet ( unlike > intellectual property!?) is a bottom up , private, etc etc, thing, and > therefore its governance has to be different.... The simplest argument is that it HAS been bottom up, open, transparent, consensus based decision making, etc for the last 40 years. So it IS and HAS BEEN different since inception, and has been VERY successful. -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel From TPHANG at ntu.edu.sg Sun May 17 11:13:57 2015 From: TPHANG at ntu.edu.sg (Ang Peng Hwa (Prof)) Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 15:13:57 +0000 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> Message-ID: >So, in fact, indeed the dominant groups involved with the IGF process do seem to think that 'public interest' is a problematic concept, and the idea of 'multistakeholder perspective' or interest is a positive political evolution over it! What a curious (mis)reading. First of all, I do not see how the APrIGF can be representative of “dominant groups”. We are, at best/worst an n of 1. Nah, I would not want to be one of the MASTERS of the UNIVERSE. Second, it is precisely because public interest is a problematic concept that the APrIGF is not using that notion. We have no time to discuss it before we roll out the meeting. Everyone knows what multistakeholder is. That’s easy. But public interest—we could discuss it as a panel if you wish. It would of course have to be next year. But if I say that it is next year, it is because of the deadline. Not because, once again, that public interest is not a problematic conception. Regards, Peng Hwa From: Parminder Singh > Reply-To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" >, Parminder Singh > Date: Sunday, 17 May 2015 9:46 pm To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" >, BestBitsList >, "Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org" > Subject: Re: [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 Interesting theme of this series of global congresses: 'Intellectual Property and the Public Interest' ! Wonder if you ever thought of calling it "IP and the multistakeholder Interest' ? You all have have seen the discussion I recently had with Peng Hwa, head of the AP regional IGF process for many years, who strongly argued that public interest perspective is a very unclear concept but multistakeholder perspective or interest is much easier to establish. The discussion started when I objected to the call for workshops for the AP regional IGF which was categorical that every workshop proposal must incorporate a 'multistakeholder perspective'. I suggested that it be replaced by 'public interest'. This suggestion was not accepted. So, in fact, indeed the dominant groups involved with the IGF process do seem to think that 'public interest' is a problematic concept, and the idea of 'multistakeholder perspective' or interest is a positive political evolution over it! Friends, these are serious post-democratic developments to which, it is my duty of observe, most of the civil society involved in IG area are either a silent or active accomplices. Meanwhile, of course, I wait for arguments that Internet ( unlike intellectual property!?) is a bottom up , private, etc etc, thing, and therefore its governance has to be different.... Well, lets admit it, such an arugment really does not hold unless we are intent to be misled by it - the social artefact of the Internet is no more bottom up, private, etc that the social relationships of trade and property, whose governance continue to be done in democratic fashions... Time we claimed democratic governance for the Internet as well, and rubbish the post-democratic multistakeholderist ideas that are so solidly taking root in this space, for which the IG civil society will have to answer to history. Would anyone agree that the proposed global congress on IP and public interest to be held in a 'multistakeholder' way, with equal space for the big IP holders, as one always insists for an IG meeting... What really is the difference, other than that the discourse in the IG space has been captured by powerful forces before public interest actors could assert themselves. Civil society in this area must help in re-democraticing this area, and reclaiming 'public interest'. Meanwhile, my best wishes to the the organisers of this very importanr congress. In fact some of us have been talking about holding a global congress on 'Internet governance and public interest'. Happy to talk to those who may be interested. parminder On Friday 15 May 2015 03:21 PM, Geetha Hariharan wrote: PFA the call for participation for the Global Congress on Intellectual Property and Public Interest. Apologies for cross-posting. Please do circulate to anyone you think might be interested. Best, Geetha. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Swaraj Barooah Date: Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:05 PM Subject: Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 Dear all, We are pleased to announce the call for participation for the fourth edition of the Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest (“Global Congress”). The theme for this year’s Congress will be “Three Decades of Openness; Two Decades of TRIPS.” We are now inviting applications to participate in the Congress, including session participation and presentations. We are also welcoming proposals for panels and workshops. The application form is available now at [http://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?] Please note that this form is for application purposes, and does not amount to confirmation of participation. The registrations for the plenary sessions, which are open to the public, will open closer to the date of the Global Congress. Deadlines August 1st: Priority Deadline for Applications- Applicants will be considered on a rolling basis, with applications made by August 1st being given first consideration. Applications after August 1st to receive travel assistance will be considered only under exceptional circumstances (these details will be collected in a subsequent form). November 1st: All applications for session participation and paper submissions will close on November 1st. Application Information For applications to participate/host: Applications to present or host workshops shall be considered based on the proposals to be submitted in the form. For applications to attend sessions:Applications to attend sessions as discussants will be considered based on the statement of purpose and/or any other relevant information provided by the applicant. Limited travel grants to cover accommodation and/or travel to the Congress will be available, with priority to those from developing countries. Background, Theme and Expected Outcomes The Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest is the most significant event on the calendar for scholars and policy advocates working on intellectual property from a public interest perspective. By sharing their research and strategies, the network of experts and activists supported by the Global Congress are empowered to put forward a positive agenda for policy reform. The Global Congress began in Washington D.C. in 2011, moved to Rio de Janeiro in 2012, and was held in Cape Town in 2013. The fourth Global Congress will now be held in New Delhi, in December 2015. The event would be the largest convening of public interest-oriented intellectual property practitioners ever held in Asia, and would help link in the world's most populous region to these global debates around how intellectual property policy can best serve the public interest. The fourth edition of the Global Congress, which brings research, civil society, industry and regulatory and policy-making communities together for active, intense engagement on key public-interest intellectual property issues. Opportunities for these groups to interact are rare but valuable; and have been proven to lead to successful policy outcomes. The 4thedition of the Congress, slated to be held in December, 2015 in New Delhi seeks to be one such opportunity. The theme for the 2015 Congress is Three Decades of Openness; Two Decades of TRIPS-coming at a pivotal time for reflection, revision, and further strategizing. Specifically, the 2015 Congress seeks to produce three outcomes- first, the mobilization of existing scholarly research directly into the hands of civil society advocates, business leaders and policy makers, leading to evidence-based policies and practices; second,the collaborative identification of urgent, global and local research priorities and generation of a joint research/advocacy agenda; and third, the solidification of an inter-disciplinary, cross-sector and global networked community of experts focused on public interest aspects of IP policy and practice. Participation Opportunities Discussions at the Global Congress will be carried out in the form of plenary sessions, thematic tracks, cross-track sessions, and the room of scholars. Participation is invited for the thematic track sessions, cross-track sessions and the room of scholars. The thematic tracks at the Global Congress are: 1) Openness, 2) Access to Medicines, 3) User Rights, 4) IP and Development. Cross-track sessions will feature research that cuts across tracks in order to facilitate engagement between tracks on themes of mutual interest. The Room of Scholars will feature presentations of research outputs such as draft works or white papers that may not fit directly within the thematic tracks but fall within the overall theme of the Global Congress . Participation could be in the form of presenting / discussing conference papers or policy briefs, or by conducting workshops where they may share their own work and solicit feedback from peers, during the aforementioned sessions. The application form for participation is available now athttp://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?. Please forward this invitation to interested lists and individuals. For more information or questions, you may contact globalcongress2015 at gmail.com . Organisation The Centre for Internet and Society serves as the convenor of the fourth Global Congress on Intellectual Property and Public Interest, carried out in cooperation withNational Law University, Delhi . The implementing partners arethe American Assembly at Columbia University in New York,Open A.I.R ., and theProgram on Information Justice and Intellectual Property at American University Washington College of Law in Washington DC. On behalf of the organizing committee, Swaraj Barooah Swaraj Paul Barooah Project Manager, "Global Congress" (Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest, 2015) Editor-in-Chief, SpicyIP.com Founder, Know-GAP Twitter: @swarajpb > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t [SG50] ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY: This email is intended solely for the person(s) named and may be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it, notify us and do not copy, use, or disclose its contents. Towards a sustainable earth: Print only when necessary. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From TPHANG at ntu.edu.sg Sun May 17 21:15:06 2015 From: TPHANG at ntu.edu.sg (Ang Peng Hwa (Prof)) Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 01:15:06 +0000 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> Message-ID: Deirdre, Google multistakeholder.https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=multistakeholder&oq=multistakeholder&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l3j69i65l2.2580j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=119&ie=UTF-8 The first entry is a Wiki where Norbert Bellow is quoted and where he distinguishes between types even. The second entry is a glossary entry from APC. The third entry is an ICANNWiki entry. Like many words, there is a “core” meaning and moving beyond that, more than 50 shades of greying that keeps academics employed. Regards, Ang Peng Hwa From: Williams Deirde > Date: Monday, 18 May 2015 2:04 am To: Internet Governance >, Ang Peng Hwa > Cc: Parminder Singh >, BestBitsList >, "Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org" > Subject: Re: [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 "Everyone knows what multistakeholder is. That’s easy." Respectfully, (I'm making a comment/asking for clarification, not trying to pick a quarrel), I have the impression that the problem is that everyone doesn't know, or rather that everyone doesn't agree. "Multistakeholder" seems to me to have become a "Humpty Dumpty" word - 'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.' (from Alice Through the Looking Glass/Lewis Carroll /http://sabian.org/looking_glass6.php) I've begun to record, for my own benefit, when how and where the term is used, and to notice those contexts in which it is not used. Does "multistakeholder" now have a stable definition? Does "multistakeholderism"? Best wishes Deirdre On 17 May 2015 at 11:13, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) > wrote: >So, in fact, indeed the dominant groups involved with the IGF process do seem to think that 'public interest' is a problematic concept, and the idea of 'multistakeholder perspective' or interest is a positive political evolution over it! What a curious (mis)reading. First of all, I do not see how the APrIGF can be representative of “dominant groups”. We are, at best/worst an n of 1. Nah, I would not want to be one of the MASTERS of the UNIVERSE. Second, it is precisely because public interest is a problematic concept that the APrIGF is not using that notion. We have no time to discuss it before we roll out the meeting. Everyone knows what multistakeholder is. That’s easy. But public interest—we could discuss it as a panel if you wish. It would of course have to be next year. But if I say that it is next year, it is because of the deadline. Not because, once again, that public interest is not a problematic conception. Regards, Peng Hwa From: Parminder Singh > Reply-To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" >, Parminder Singh > Date: Sunday, 17 May 2015 9:46 pm To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" >, BestBitsList >, "Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org" > Subject: Re: [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 Interesting theme of this series of global congresses: 'Intellectual Property and the Public Interest' ! Wonder if you ever thought of calling it "IP and the multistakeholder Interest' ? You all have have seen the discussion I recently had with Peng Hwa, head of the AP regional IGF process for many years, who strongly argued that public interest perspective is a very unclear concept but multistakeholder perspective or interest is much easier to establish. The discussion started when I objected to the call for workshops for the AP regional IGF which was categorical that every workshop proposal must incorporate a 'multistakeholder perspective'. I suggested that it be replaced by 'public interest'. This suggestion was not accepted. So, in fact, indeed the dominant groups involved with the IGF process do seem to think that 'public interest' is a problematic concept, and the idea of 'multistakeholder perspective' or interest is a positive political evolution over it! Friends, these are serious post-democratic developments to which, it is my duty of observe, most of the civil society involved in IG area are either a silent or active accomplices. Meanwhile, of course, I wait for arguments that Internet ( unlike intellectual property!?) is a bottom up , private, etc etc, thing, and therefore its governance has to be different.... Well, lets admit it, such an arugment really does not hold unless we are intent to be misled by it - the social artefact of the Internet is no more bottom up, private, etc that the social relationships of trade and property, whose governance continue to be done in democratic fashions... Time we claimed democratic governance for the Internet as well, and rubbish the post-democratic multistakeholderist ideas that are so solidly taking root in this space, for which the IG civil society will have to answer to history. Would anyone agree that the proposed global congress on IP and public interest to be held in a 'multistakeholder' way, with equal space for the big IP holders, as one always insists for an IG meeting... What really is the difference, other than that the discourse in the IG space has been captured by powerful forces before public interest actors could assert themselves. Civil society in this area must help in re-democraticing this area, and reclaiming 'public interest'. Meanwhile, my best wishes to the the organisers of this very importanr congress. In fact some of us have been talking about holding a global congress on 'Internet governance and public interest'. Happy to talk to those who may be interested. parminder On Friday 15 May 2015 03:21 PM, Geetha Hariharan wrote: PFA the call for participation for the Global Congress on Intellectual Property and Public Interest. Apologies for cross-posting. Please do circulate to anyone you think might be interested. Best, Geetha. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Swaraj Barooah Date: Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:05 PM Subject: Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 Dear all, We are pleased to announce the call for participation for the fourth edition of the Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest (“Global Congress”). The theme for this year’s Congress will be “Three Decades of Openness; Two Decades of TRIPS.” We are now inviting applications to participate in the Congress, including session participation and presentations. We are also welcoming proposals for panels and workshops. The application form is available now at [http://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?] Please note that this form is for application purposes, and does not amount to confirmation of participation. The registrations for the plenary sessions, which are open to the public, will open closer to the date of the Global Congress. Deadlines August 1st: Priority Deadline for Applications- Applicants will be considered on a rolling basis, with applications made by August 1st being given first consideration. Applications after August 1st to receive travel assistance will be considered only under exceptional circumstances (these details will be collected in a subsequent form). November 1st: All applications for session participation and paper submissions will close on November 1st. Application Information For applications to participate/host: Applications to present or host workshops shall be considered based on the proposals to be submitted in the form. For applications to attend sessions:Applications to attend sessions as discussants will be considered based on the statement of purpose and/or any other relevant information provided by the applicant. Limited travel grants to cover accommodation and/or travel to the Congress will be available, with priority to those from developing countries. Background, Theme and Expected Outcomes The Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest is the most significant event on the calendar for scholars and policy advocates working on intellectual property from a public interest perspective. By sharing their research and strategies, the network of experts and activists supported by the Global Congress are empowered to put forward a positive agenda for policy reform. The Global Congress began in Washington D.C. in 2011, moved to Rio de Janeiro in 2012, and was held in Cape Town in 2013. The fourth Global Congress will now be held in New Delhi, in December 2015. The event would be the largest convening of public interest-oriented intellectual property practitioners ever held in Asia, and would help link in the world's most populous region to these global debates around how intellectual property policy can best serve the public interest. The fourth edition of the Global Congress, which brings research, civil society, industry and regulatory and policy-making communities together for active, intense engagement on key public-interest intellectual property issues. Opportunities for these groups to interact are rare but valuable; and have been proven to lead to successful policy outcomes. The 4thedition of the Congress, slated to be held in December, 2015 in New Delhi seeks to be one such opportunity. The theme for the 2015 Congress is Three Decades of Openness; Two Decades of TRIPS-coming at a pivotal time for reflection, revision, and further strategizing. Specifically, the 2015 Congress seeks to produce three outcomes- first, the mobilization of existing scholarly research directly into the hands of civil society advocates, business leaders and policy makers, leading to evidence-based policies and practices; second,the collaborative identification of urgent, global and local research priorities and generation of a joint research/advocacy agenda; and third, the solidification of an inter-disciplinary, cross-sector and global networked community of experts focused on public interest aspects of IP policy and practice. Participation Opportunities Discussions at the Global Congress will be carried out in the form of plenary sessions, thematic tracks, cross-track sessions, and the room of scholars. Participation is invited for the thematic track sessions, cross-track sessions and the room of scholars. The thematic tracks at the Global Congress are: 1) Openness, 2) Access to Medicines, 3) User Rights, 4) IP and Development. Cross-track sessions will feature research that cuts across tracks in order to facilitate engagement between tracks on themes of mutual interest. The Room of Scholars will feature presentations of research outputs such as draft works or white papers that may not fit directly within the thematic tracks but fall within the overall theme of the Global Congress . Participation could be in the form of presenting / discussing conference papers or policy briefs, or by conducting workshops where they may share their own work and solicit feedback from peers, during the aforementioned sessions. The application form for participation is available now athttp://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?. Please forward this invitation to interested lists and individuals. For more information or questions, you may contact globalcongress2015 at gmail.com . Organisation The Centre for Internet and Society serves as the convenor of the fourth Global Congress on Intellectual Property and Public Interest, carried out in cooperation withNational Law University, Delhi . The implementing partners arethe American Assembly at Columbia University in New York,Open A.I.R ., and theProgram on Information Justice and Intellectual Property at American University Washington College of Law in Washington DC. On behalf of the organizing committee, Swaraj Barooah Swaraj Paul Barooah Project Manager, "Global Congress" (Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest, 2015) Editor-in-Chief, SpicyIP.com Founder, Know-GAP Twitter: @swarajpb > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t [SG50] ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY: This email is intended solely for the person(s) named and may be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it, notify us and do not copy, use, or disclose its contents. 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URL: From TPHANG at ntu.edu.sg Sun May 17 23:40:19 2015 From: TPHANG at ntu.edu.sg (Ang Peng Hwa (Prof)) Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 03:40:19 +0000 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: <55595775.8050901@itforchange.net> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <55595775.8050901@itforchange.net> Message-ID: Parminder, There is no agreement that public interest is a problematic concept. It’s your interpretation of the term not being featured in at APrIGF that is curious. Regards, Peng Hwa From: Parminder Singh > Date: Monday, 18 May 2015 11:07 am To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" >, Ang Peng Hwa >, BestBitsList >, "Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org" > Subject: Re: [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 On Sunday 17 May 2015 08:43 PM, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote: >So, in fact, indeed the dominant groups involved with the IGF process do seem to think that 'public interest' is a problematic concept, and the idea of 'multistakeholder perspective' or interest is a positive political evolution over it! What a curious (mis)reading. Rather more curious, Dear Peng Hwa, is that after you call my reading curious you repeat exactly what I have read. Direct quotes from your below email: "public interest is a problematic concept" AND "Everyone knows what multistakeholder is". Whereby, I understand you justify why the APrIGF call uses 'multistakeholder perspective' and did not agree to use 'public interest'. I dont see what or where I mis-read.. parminder First of all, I do not see how the APrIGF can be representative of “dominant groups”. We are, at best/worst an n of 1. Nah, I would not want to be one of the MASTERS of the UNIVERSE. Second, it is precisely because public interest is a problematic concept that the APrIGF is not using that notion. We have no time to discuss it before we roll out the meeting. Everyone knows what multistakeholder is. That’s easy. But public interest—we could discuss it as a panel if you wish. It would of course have to be next year. But if I say that it is next year, it is because of the deadline. Not because, once again, that public interest is not a problematic conception. Regards, Peng Hwa From: Parminder Singh > Reply-To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" >, Parminder Singh > Date: Sunday, 17 May 2015 9:46 pm To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" >, BestBitsList >, "Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org" > Subject: Re: [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 Interesting theme of this series of global congresses: 'Intellectual Property and the Public Interest' ! Wonder if you ever thought of calling it "IP and the multistakeholder Interest' ? You all have have seen the discussion I recently had with Peng Hwa, head of the AP regional IGF process for many years, who strongly argued that public interest perspective is a very unclear concept but multistakeholder perspective or interest is much easier to establish. The discussion started when I objected to the call for workshops for the AP regional IGF which was categorical that every workshop proposal must incorporate a 'multistakeholder perspective'. I suggested that it be replaced by 'public interest'. This suggestion was not accepted. So, in fact, indeed the dominant groups involved with the IGF process do seem to think that 'public interest' is a problematic concept, and the idea of 'multistakeholder perspective' or interest is a positive political evolution over it! Friends, these are serious post-democratic developments to which, it is my duty of observe, most of the civil society involved in IG area are either a silent or active accomplices. Meanwhile, of course, I wait for arguments that Internet ( unlike intellectual property!?) is a bottom up , private, etc etc, thing, and therefore its governance has to be different.... Well, lets admit it, such an arugment really does not hold unless we are intent to be misled by it - the social artefact of the Internet is no more bottom up, private, etc that the social relationships of trade and property, whose governance continue to be done in democratic fashions... Time we claimed democratic governance for the Internet as well, and rubbish the post-democratic multistakeholderist ideas that are so solidly taking root in this space, for which the IG civil society will have to answer to history. Would anyone agree that the proposed global congress on IP and public interest to be held in a 'multistakeholder' way, with equal space for the big IP holders, as one always insists for an IG meeting... What really is the difference, other than that the discourse in the IG space has been captured by powerful forces before public interest actors could assert themselves. Civil society in this area must help in re-democraticing this area, and reclaiming 'public interest'. Meanwhile, my best wishes to the the organisers of this very importanr congress. In fact some of us have been talking about holding a global congress on 'Internet governance and public interest'. Happy to talk to those who may be interested. parminder On Friday 15 May 2015 03:21 PM, Geetha Hariharan wrote: PFA the call for participation for the Global Congress on Intellectual Property and Public Interest. Apologies for cross-posting. Please do circulate to anyone you think might be interested. Best, Geetha. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Swaraj Barooah Date: Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:05 PM Subject: Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 Dear all, We are pleased to announce the call for participation for the fourth edition of the Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest (“Global Congress”). The theme for this year’s Congress will be “Three Decades of Openness; Two Decades of TRIPS.” We are now inviting applications to participate in the Congress, including session participation and presentations. We are also welcoming proposals for panels and workshops. The application form is available now at [http://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?] Please note that this form is for application purposes, and does not amount to confirmation of participation. The registrations for the plenary sessions, which are open to the public, will open closer to the date of the Global Congress. Deadlines August 1st: Priority Deadline for Applications- Applicants will be considered on a rolling basis, with applications made by August 1st being given first consideration. Applications after August 1st to receive travel assistance will be considered only under exceptional circumstances (these details will be collected in a subsequent form). November 1st: All applications for session participation and paper submissions will close on November 1st. Application Information For applications to participate/host: Applications to present or host workshops shall be considered based on the proposals to be submitted in the form. For applications to attend sessions:Applications to attend sessions as discussants will be considered based on the statement of purpose and/or any other relevant information provided by the applicant. Limited travel grants to cover accommodation and/or travel to the Congress will be available, with priority to those from developing countries. Background, Theme and Expected Outcomes The Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest is the most significant event on the calendar for scholars and policy advocates working on intellectual property from a public interest perspective. By sharing their research and strategies, the network of experts and activists supported by the Global Congress are empowered to put forward a positive agenda for policy reform. The Global Congress began in Washington D.C. in 2011, moved to Rio de Janeiro in 2012, and was held in Cape Town in 2013. The fourth Global Congress will now be held in New Delhi, in December 2015. The event would be the largest convening of public interest-oriented intellectual property practitioners ever held in Asia, and would help link in the world's most populous region to these global debates around how intellectual property policy can best serve the public interest. The fourth edition of the Global Congress, which brings research, civil society, industry and regulatory and policy-making communities together for active, intense engagement on key public-interest intellectual property issues. Opportunities for these groups to interact are rare but valuable; and have been proven to lead to successful policy outcomes. The 4thedition of the Congress, slated to be held in December, 2015 in New Delhi seeks to be one such opportunity. The theme for the 2015 Congress is Three Decades of Openness; Two Decades of TRIPS-coming at a pivotal time for reflection, revision, and further strategizing. Specifically, the 2015 Congress seeks to produce three outcomes- first, the mobilization of existing scholarly research directly into the hands of civil society advocates, business leaders and policy makers, leading to evidence-based policies and practices; second,the collaborative identification of urgent, global and local research priorities and generation of a joint research/advocacy agenda; and third, the solidification of an inter-disciplinary, cross-sector and global networked community of experts focused on public interest aspects of IP policy and practice. Participation Opportunities Discussions at the Global Congress will be carried out in the form of plenary sessions, thematic tracks, cross-track sessions, and the room of scholars. Participation is invited for the thematic track sessions, cross-track sessions and the room of scholars. The thematic tracks at the Global Congress are: 1) Openness, 2) Access to Medicines, 3) User Rights, 4) IP and Development. Cross-track sessions will feature research that cuts across tracks in order to facilitate engagement between tracks on themes of mutual interest. The Room of Scholars will feature presentations of research outputs such as draft works or white papers that may not fit directly within the thematic tracks but fall within the overall theme of the Global Congress . Participation could be in the form of presenting / discussing conference papers or policy briefs, or by conducting workshops where they may share their own work and solicit feedback from peers, during the aforementioned sessions. The application form for participation is available now athttp://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?. Please forward this invitation to interested lists and individuals. For more information or questions, you may contact globalcongress2015 at gmail.com . Organisation The Centre for Internet and Society serves as the convenor of the fourth Global Congress on Intellectual Property and Public Interest, carried out in cooperation withNational Law University, Delhi . The implementing partners arethe American Assembly at Columbia University in New York,Open A.I.R ., and theProgram on Information Justice and Intellectual Property at American University Washington College of Law in Washington DC. On behalf of the organizing committee, Swaraj Barooah Swaraj Paul Barooah Project Manager, "Global Congress" (Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest, 2015) Editor-in-Chief, SpicyIP.com Founder, Know-GAP Twitter: @swarajpb > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t [SG50] ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY: This email is intended solely for the person(s) named and may be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it, notify us and do not copy, use, or disclose its contents. 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We're at a crossroads on this issue, and we have a real opportunity for the global community of Net Neutrality advocates to make a strong, public statement of support for real Net Neutrality, and to push back against Zuckerberg's assertions. We're working on a draft of an open letter to Mark Zuckerberg right now - would others be interested in such a tactic? 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URL: From TPHANG at ntu.edu.sg Sun May 17 23:45:24 2015 From: TPHANG at ntu.edu.sg (Ang Peng Hwa (Prof)) Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 03:45:24 +0000 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: <55595C42.9050706@itforchange.net> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <55595C42.9050706@itforchange.net> Message-ID: Parminder, I did not just rely on Wikipedia. (That would be another n of 1.) My point was to reply to the question: Does "multistakeholder" now have a stable definition? >The first entry is a Wiki where Norbert Bellow is quoted and where he distinguishes between types even. >The second entry is a glossary entry from APC. >The third entry is an ICANNWiki entry. There is another common factor in the APC and the ICANNWiki entries: there is no glossary entry for public interest in either of them. I leave you to interpret what that means. Regards, Peng Hwa From: Parminder Singh > Date: Monday, 18 May 2015 11:28 am To: Ang Peng Hwa >, Williams Deirde >, Internet Governance > Cc: BestBitsList >, "Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org" > Subject: Re: [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 Peng Hwa Since you seem to rely on wikipedia, before declaring that although 'everyone knows what knows what multi stakeholder is' 'public interest is a problematic concept' (both direct quotes from your email) did you look up 'public interest' in wikipedia? Well, here it is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_interest A comparative assessment of the two entries in wikipedia - respectively on MSism (multistakeholderism) and public interest - would make clear which one is clearer and less contested term. Which in turn clearly proves that an assertion in favour of 'clarity' of the MS term with respect to the 'public interest' term is not based on any kind of facts or on existing body of civilisational knoweldge . It is merely ideological, which was my prior point. And the fact that a regional IGF process takes such a bias as a given - and does not correct itself even when the 'error' is pointed out - makes a important political point, which is the political point that I have been trying to make.. parminder On Monday 18 May 2015 06:45 AM, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote: Deirdre, Google multistakeholder.https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=multistakeholder&oq=multistakeholder&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l3j69i65l2.2580j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=119&ie=UTF-8 The first entry is a Wiki where Norbert Bellow is quoted and where he distinguishes between types even. The second entry is a glossary entry from APC. The third entry is an ICANNWiki entry. Like many words, there is a “core” meaning and moving beyond that, more than 50 shades of greying that keeps academics employed. Regards, Ang Peng Hwa From: Williams Deirde > Date: Monday, 18 May 2015 2:04 am To: Internet Governance >, Ang Peng Hwa > Cc: Parminder Singh >, BestBitsList >, "Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org" > Subject: Re: [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 "Everyone knows what multistakeholder is. That’s easy." Respectfully, (I'm making a comment/asking for clarification, not trying to pick a quarrel), I have the impression that the problem is that everyone doesn't know, or rather that everyone doesn't agree. "Multistakeholder" seems to me to have become a "Humpty Dumpty" word - 'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.' (from Alice Through the Looking Glass/Lewis Carroll /http://sabian.org/looking_glass6.php) I've begun to record, for my own benefit, when how and where the term is used, and to notice those contexts in which it is not used. Does "multistakeholder" now have a stable definition? Does "multistakeholderism"? Best wishes Deirdre On 17 May 2015 at 11:13, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) > wrote: >So, in fact, indeed the dominant groups involved with the IGF process do seem to think that 'public interest' is a problematic concept, and the idea of 'multistakeholder perspective' or interest is a positive political evolution over it! What a curious (mis)reading. First of all, I do not see how the APrIGF can be representative of “dominant groups”. We are, at best/worst an n of 1. Nah, I would not want to be one of the MASTERS of the UNIVERSE. Second, it is precisely because public interest is a problematic concept that the APrIGF is not using that notion. We have no time to discuss it before we roll out the meeting. Everyone knows what multistakeholder is. That’s easy. But public interest—we could discuss it as a panel if you wish. It would of course have to be next year. But if I say that it is next year, it is because of the deadline. Not because, once again, that public interest is not a problematic conception. Regards, Peng Hwa From: Parminder Singh > Reply-To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" >, Parminder Singh > Date: Sunday, 17 May 2015 9:46 pm To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" >, BestBitsList >, "Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org" > Subject: Re: [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 Interesting theme of this series of global congresses: 'Intellectual Property and the Public Interest' ! Wonder if you ever thought of calling it "IP and the multistakeholder Interest' ? You all have have seen the discussion I recently had with Peng Hwa, head of the AP regional IGF process for many years, who strongly argued that public interest perspective is a very unclear concept but multistakeholder perspective or interest is much easier to establish. The discussion started when I objected to the call for workshops for the AP regional IGF which was categorical that every workshop proposal must incorporate a 'multistakeholder perspective'. I suggested that it be replaced by 'public interest'. This suggestion was not accepted. So, in fact, indeed the dominant groups involved with the IGF process do seem to think that 'public interest' is a problematic concept, and the idea of 'multistakeholder perspective' or interest is a positive political evolution over it! Friends, these are serious post-democratic developments to which, it is my duty of observe, most of the civil society involved in IG area are either a silent or active accomplices. Meanwhile, of course, I wait for arguments that Internet ( unlike intellectual property!?) is a bottom up , private, etc etc, thing, and therefore its governance has to be different.... Well, lets admit it, such an arugment really does not hold unless we are intent to be misled by it - the social artefact of the Internet is no more bottom up, private, etc that the social relationships of trade and property, whose governance continue to be done in democratic fashions... Time we claimed democratic governance for the Internet as well, and rubbish the post-democratic multistakeholderist ideas that are so solidly taking root in this space, for which the IG civil society will have to answer to history. Would anyone agree that the proposed global congress on IP and public interest to be held in a 'multistakeholder' way, with equal space for the big IP holders, as one always insists for an IG meeting... What really is the difference, other than that the discourse in the IG space has been captured by powerful forces before public interest actors could assert themselves. Civil society in this area must help in re-democraticing this area, and reclaiming 'public interest'. Meanwhile, my best wishes to the the organisers of this very importanr congress. In fact some of us have been talking about holding a global congress on 'Internet governance and public interest'. Happy to talk to those who may be interested. parminder On Friday 15 May 2015 03:21 PM, Geetha Hariharan wrote: PFA the call for participation for the Global Congress on Intellectual Property and Public Interest. Apologies for cross-posting. Please do circulate to anyone you think might be interested. Best, Geetha. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Swaraj Barooah Date: Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:05 PM Subject: Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 Dear all, We are pleased to announce the call for participation for the fourth edition of the Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest (“Global Congress”). The theme for this year’s Congress will be “Three Decades of Openness; Two Decades of TRIPS.” We are now inviting applications to participate in the Congress, including session participation and presentations. We are also welcoming proposals for panels and workshops. The application form is available now at [http://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?] Please note that this form is for application purposes, and does not amount to confirmation of participation. The registrations for the plenary sessions, which are open to the public, will open closer to the date of the Global Congress. Deadlines August 1st: Priority Deadline for Applications- Applicants will be considered on a rolling basis, with applications made by August 1st being given first consideration. Applications after August 1st to receive travel assistance will be considered only under exceptional circumstances (these details will be collected in a subsequent form). November 1st: All applications for session participation and paper submissions will close on November 1st. Application Information For applications to participate/host: Applications to present or host workshops shall be considered based on the proposals to be submitted in the form. For applications to attend sessions:Applications to attend sessions as discussants will be considered based on the statement of purpose and/or any other relevant information provided by the applicant. Limited travel grants to cover accommodation and/or travel to the Congress will be available, with priority to those from developing countries. Background, Theme and Expected Outcomes The Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest is the most significant event on the calendar for scholars and policy advocates working on intellectual property from a public interest perspective. By sharing their research and strategies, the network of experts and activists supported by the Global Congress are empowered to put forward a positive agenda for policy reform. The Global Congress began in Washington D.C. in 2011, moved to Rio de Janeiro in 2012, and was held in Cape Town in 2013. The fourth Global Congress will now be held in New Delhi, in December 2015. The event would be the largest convening of public interest-oriented intellectual property practitioners ever held in Asia, and would help link in the world's most populous region to these global debates around how intellectual property policy can best serve the public interest. The fourth edition of the Global Congress, which brings research, civil society, industry and regulatory and policy-making communities together for active, intense engagement on key public-interest intellectual property issues. Opportunities for these groups to interact are rare but valuable; and have been proven to lead to successful policy outcomes. The 4thedition of the Congress, slated to be held in December, 2015 in New Delhi seeks to be one such opportunity. The theme for the 2015 Congress is Three Decades of Openness; Two Decades of TRIPS-coming at a pivotal time for reflection, revision, and further strategizing. Specifically, the 2015 Congress seeks to produce three outcomes- first, the mobilization of existing scholarly research directly into the hands of civil society advocates, business leaders and policy makers, leading to evidence-based policies and practices; second,the collaborative identification of urgent, global and local research priorities and generation of a joint research/advocacy agenda; and third, the solidification of an inter-disciplinary, cross-sector and global networked community of experts focused on public interest aspects of IP policy and practice. Participation Opportunities Discussions at the Global Congress will be carried out in the form of plenary sessions, thematic tracks, cross-track sessions, and the room of scholars. Participation is invited for the thematic track sessions, cross-track sessions and the room of scholars. The thematic tracks at the Global Congress are: 1) Openness, 2) Access to Medicines, 3) User Rights, 4) IP and Development. Cross-track sessions will feature research that cuts across tracks in order to facilitate engagement between tracks on themes of mutual interest. The Room of Scholars will feature presentations of research outputs such as draft works or white papers that may not fit directly within the thematic tracks but fall within the overall theme of the Global Congress . Participation could be in the form of presenting / discussing conference papers or policy briefs, or by conducting workshops where they may share their own work and solicit feedback from peers, during the aforementioned sessions. The application form for participation is available now athttp://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?. Please forward this invitation to interested lists and individuals. For more information or questions, you may contact globalcongress2015 at gmail.com . Organisation The Centre for Internet and Society serves as the convenor of the fourth Global Congress on Intellectual Property and Public Interest, carried out in cooperation withNational Law University, Delhi . The implementing partners arethe American Assembly at Columbia University in New York,Open A.I.R ., and theProgram on Information Justice and Intellectual Property at American University Washington College of Law in Washington DC. On behalf of the organizing committee, Swaraj Barooah Swaraj Paul Barooah Project Manager, "Global Congress" (Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest, 2015) Editor-in-Chief, SpicyIP.com Founder, Know-GAP Twitter: @swarajpb > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t [SG50] ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY: This email is intended solely for the person(s) named and may be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it, notify us and do not copy, use, or disclose its contents. 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URL: From bzs at world.std.com Mon May 18 13:32:27 2015 From: bzs at world.std.com (Barry Shein) Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 13:32:27 -0400 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <21850.8747.820474.814826@world.std.com> You can't have an operational definition of "multistakeholderism" without some process to define it such as enfranchisement in a governance body. One could argue that ICANN has done that via its by-laws. The board of directors recognizes certain groups as groups of enfranchised stakeholders for each group's stated purpose: Address Supporting Organization (ASO), Country-Code Names Supporting Organization (CCNSO), Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), Advisory Committees (AC, such as GAC, SSAC, RSSAC, ALAC), and then other, board, and temporary committees. They're narrowly focused (other than perhaps the GAC) on ICANN's core mission: Names, numbers, and the stability and operations thereof. Nonetheless the process is led by a board of directors chosen by a nominating committee consisting primarily of members of those organizations, or external organizations given a seat by that board (with their own processes for choosing directors), who can approve enfranchised stakeholder groups. Within each of those groups there are other stakeholder groups approved by those groups' leadership and noted in the by-laws who are enfranchised to participate in the groups' decision-making. For exmaple within GNSO there are the Registries and Regstrars stakeholder groups (SGs), Business Constituency SG, Intellectual Property SG, Internet Service Providers SG, Non-Commercial Users Constituency. And so forth. It's all in the by-laws and apologies in advance if I made any small errors but I think that's the gist of it. One could argue it's rather top-down in that substantive top-level changes must get through approval by the board of directors. There's no process that I know of, for example, to over-ride the board's decisions on such structures though there is a fair amount of latitude within each group pertaining to their own leadership, agenda, process structures, etc. But, for example, I believe the board could in theory dissolve an entire Supporting Organization and by implication any enfranchisement of their stakeholder groups via a board vote with no formal challenge process (no involuntary override) possible. One can submit a "reconsideration request" and/or ask for an Independent Review Process Panel (IRP) but it's all gated by board members (via the Board Governance Committee) or the board acting as a whole -- approving such panels and their membership, taking action on their recommendations or not, etc. -- -Barry Shein The World | bzs at TheWorld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 800-THE-WRLD | Dial-Up: US, PR, Canada Software Tool & Die | Public Access Internet | SINCE 1989 *oo* From nashton at consensus.pro Mon May 18 13:48:33 2015 From: nashton at consensus.pro (Nick Ashton-Hart) Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 19:48:33 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: <21850.8747.820474.814826@world.std.com> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <21850.8747.820474.814826@world.std.com> Message-ID: <11D2A398-F9DB-418B-910A-96273A8AF6E2@consensus.pro> Dear Barry, and all, for what it is worth this discussion has been had in the sustainable development (Rio+ 5/10/20) process for much longer even than it has been had in the WSIS context. For those interested, I think you'll find some very useful work there on this subject that you can leverage which might make this somewhat eternal argument easier to - hopefully - resolve. On 18 May 2015, at 19:32, Barry Shein wrote: > > You can't have an operational definition of "multistakeholderism" > without some process to define it such as enfranchisement in a > governance body. > > One could argue that ICANN has done that via its by-laws. The board of > directors recognizes certain groups as groups of enfranchised > stakeholders for each group's stated purpose: Address Supporting > Organization (ASO), Country-Code Names Supporting Organization > (CCNSO), Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), Advisory > Committees (AC, such as GAC, SSAC, RSSAC, ALAC), and then other, > board, and temporary committees. > > They're narrowly focused (other than perhaps the GAC) on ICANN's core > mission: Names, numbers, and the stability and operations thereof. > > Nonetheless the process is led by a board of directors chosen by a > nominating committee consisting primarily of members of those > organizations, or external organizations given a seat by that board > (with their own processes for choosing directors), who can approve > enfranchised stakeholder groups. > > Within each of those groups there are other stakeholder groups > approved by those groups' leadership and noted in the by-laws who are > enfranchised to participate in the groups' decision-making. > > For exmaple within GNSO there are the Registries and Regstrars > stakeholder groups (SGs), Business Constituency SG, Intellectual > Property SG, Internet Service Providers SG, Non-Commercial Users > Constituency. And so forth. > > It's all in the by-laws and apologies in advance if I made any small > errors but I think that's the gist of it. > > One could argue it's rather top-down in that substantive top-level > changes must get through approval by the board of directors. There's > no process that I know of, for example, to over-ride the board's > decisions on such structures though there is a fair amount of latitude > within each group pertaining to their own leadership, agenda, process > structures, etc. > > But, for example, I believe the board could in theory dissolve an > entire Supporting Organization and by implication any enfranchisement > of their stakeholder groups via a board vote with no formal challenge > process (no involuntary override) possible. > > One can submit a "reconsideration request" and/or ask for an > Independent Review Process Panel (IRP) but it's all gated by board > members (via the Board Governance Committee) or the board acting as a > whole -- approving such panels and their membership, taking action on > their recommendations or not, etc. > > -- > -Barry Shein > > The World | bzs at TheWorld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com > Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 800-THE-WRLD | Dial-Up: US, PR, Canada > Software Tool & Die | Public Access Internet | SINCE 1989 *oo* > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From sunil at cis-india.org Tue May 19 00:19:06 2015 From: sunil at cis-india.org (Sunil Abraham) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 09:49:06 +0530 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <55595C42.9050706@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <555AB9BA.9000809@cis-india.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 18 May 2015 09:15 AM, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote: > > There is another common factor in the APC and the ICANNWiki > entries: there is no glossary entry for public interest in either > of them. > > I leave you to interpret what that means. With apologies for cross-posting. Another data point from IndianKanoon.org - an electronic repository of Indian law and Indian court judgements. 19,729 hits for ""public interest". It would be useful learn if this is an established legal concept in other jurisdictions. Maybe we will commission a paper on this before the Global Congress. Indian legal tradition / state regulation has deployed and defined public interest for some time now. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVWrm6AAoJEJbdD2SepVD9CS0H/2YEVFK70Zb6NchIUZSqPX2U eGQk1pkJK/BwV7MSJF5pvNtpAg7WBCnU6wCAZua2ejanizjdshXIbfQVyxUSon0D KXgb927i5dd3iVmRiEJhEwZNeK1QM8Dym4nijTzB2FzJDL8hLNbZh0fj2VFswYsF o5or/QK+2c+1qhs6iI2fxb8nntwecZ0+I82b7Cj5rJBgM0T5NQtUuh0o9phEk4aX gJqrbvS/w12npLOwldV9WCMH/5feYJjuWB5MfpRsdvOHEtilCZk4r2lltRa1md6g 54ChXgYylRfBDOJTQqCKm4It7/dIm/96cqLgckn9f41sxFjxNwB1IyGGui8e0Ec= =uUOS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From parminder at itforchange.net Tue May 19 03:09:06 2015 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 12:39:06 +0530 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: <21850.8747.820474.814826@world.std.com> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <21850.8747.820474.814826@world.std.com> Message-ID: <555AE192.7020101@itforchange.net> On Monday 18 May 2015 11:02 PM, Barry Shein wrote: > You can't have an operational definition of "multistakeholderism" > without some process to define it such as enfranchisement in a > governance body. > > One could argue that ICANN has done that via its by-laws. The board of > directors recognizes certain groups as groups of enfranchised > stakeholders for each group's stated purpose: Address Supporting > Organization (ASO), Country-Code Names Supporting Organization > (CCNSO), Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), Advisory > Committees (AC, such as GAC, SSAC, RSSAC, ALAC), and then other, > board, and temporary committees. Barry, by your account nothing can be more top down than multistakeholderism, as we know it, which is exactly the opposite of what is sold as its primary value, being bottom up. And this precisely sums up what is wrong with multistakeholderism as a new post-democratic political device or institution... parminder > > They're narrowly focused (other than perhaps the GAC) on ICANN's core > mission: Names, numbers, and the stability and operations thereof. > > Nonetheless the process is led by a board of directors chosen by a > nominating committee consisting primarily of members of those > organizations, or external organizations given a seat by that board > (with their own processes for choosing directors), who can approve > enfranchised stakeholder groups. > > Within each of those groups there are other stakeholder groups > approved by those groups' leadership and noted in the by-laws who are > enfranchised to participate in the groups' decision-making. > > For exmaple within GNSO there are the Registries and Regstrars > stakeholder groups (SGs), Business Constituency SG, Intellectual > Property SG, Internet Service Providers SG, Non-Commercial Users > Constituency. And so forth. > > It's all in the by-laws and apologies in advance if I made any small > errors but I think that's the gist of it. > > One could argue it's rather top-down in that substantive top-level > changes must get through approval by the board of directors. There's > no process that I know of, for example, to over-ride the board's > decisions on such structures though there is a fair amount of latitude > within each group pertaining to their own leadership, agenda, process > structures, etc. > > But, for example, I believe the board could in theory dissolve an > entire Supporting Organization and by implication any enfranchisement > of their stakeholder groups via a board vote with no formal challenge > process (no involuntary override) possible. > > One can submit a "reconsideration request" and/or ask for an > Independent Review Process Panel (IRP) but it's all gated by board > members (via the Board Governance Committee) or the board acting as a > whole -- approving such panels and their membership, taking action on > their recommendations or not, etc. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at difference.com.au Tue May 19 06:05:24 2015 From: dave at difference.com.au (David Cake) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 12:05:24 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> My first reaction is that this seems to be a category error. A multi stakeholder perspective is a description of how a workshop should be constructed, and public interest a description of its content. One does not substitute for the other because they aren't the same thing. Just as you couldn't claim a workshop was civil society only if it was filled with commercial operators talking about their NGO customers. Structure and composition of a workshop are different. And frankly, Parminder, I'd be surprised if you couldn't put together a multi-stakeholder workshop comprised entirely of sceptics of multistakeholderism, which to my mind would incorporate a 'multistakeholder perspective'. That said, I'm going to agree with Peng Hwa that 'public interest' is a problematic term. The IP lobby are just one example of a group who, with some skill and apparent sincerity, will strongly argue that advancing the relative power of their narrow set of interests is also in the public interest (the public surely wants to combat the various evils strengthened by counterfeiting, they say). Governments always justify calls for increased censorship and surveillance on public interest grounds (the public must be protected from terrorism, drug smuggling, and immorality). And you'd probably be quite appalled if you saw the uses to which the concept has been put within ICANN, such as 'Public Interest Commitments' taken on by many new GTLDs that commit them to lobbyist led expansion of the rights of large trademark holders. Almost every serious lobby group can manage the necessary mental gymnastics to argue that they act in the public interest, and claiming to act in the public interest is the go to strategy if you want to justify overruling a community or consensus policy to favour your lobby group. This isn't to say that a prolonged look at the issue of the public interest - some serious examination of what relatively object ways we have to determine it, or what processes lead to a relatively consensus understanding of we determine public interest, wouldn't be very valuable. A global process that looked at this idea would be great. I think the current situation, where the concept is used to justify all sorts of policies but is defined loosely or informally, is very problematic. In this respect I agree with Parminder that it merits much deeper discussion. But thinking of public interest as in some way opposed to, or distinct from, multistakeholderism is a misguided position that is only going to lead to a shallow and disappointing discussion. Regards David Sent from my iPad > On 17 May 2015, at 3:46 pm, parminder wrote: > > Interesting theme of this series of global congresses: 'Intellectual Property and the Public Interest' ! > > Wonder if you ever thought of calling it "IP and the multistakeholder Interest' ? > > You all have have seen the discussion I recently had with Peng Hwa, head of the AP regional IGF process for many years, who strongly argued that public interest perspective is a very unclear concept but multistakeholder perspective or interest is much easier to establish. > > The discussion started when I objected to the call for workshops for the AP regional IGF which was categorical that every workshop proposal must incorporate a 'multistakeholder perspective'. I suggested that it be replaced by 'public interest'. This suggestion was not accepted. So, in fact, indeed the dominant groups involved with the IGF process do seem to think that 'public interest' is a problematic concept, and the idea of 'multistakeholder perspective' or interest is a positive political evolution over it! > > Friends, these are serious post-democratic developments to which, it is my duty of observe, most of the civil society involved in IG area are either a silent or active accomplices. > > Meanwhile, of course, I wait for arguments that Internet ( unlike intellectual property!?) is a bottom up , private, etc etc, thing, and therefore its governance has to be different.... Well, lets admit it, such an arugment really does not hold unless we are intent to be misled by it - the social artefact of the Internet is no more bottom up, private, etc that the social relationships of trade and property, whose governance continue to be done in democratic fashions... Time we claimed democratic governance for the Internet as well, and rubbish the post-democratic multistakeholderist ideas that are so solidly taking root in this space, for which the IG civil society will have to answer to history. > > Would anyone agree that the proposed global congress on IP and public interest to be held in a 'multistakeholder' way, with equal space for the big IP holders, as one always insists for an IG meeting... What really is the difference, other than that the discourse in the IG space has been captured by powerful forces before public interest actors could assert themselves. Civil society in this area must help in re-democraticing this area, and reclaiming 'public interest'. > > Meanwhile, my best wishes to the the organisers of this very importanr congress. > > In fact some of us have been talking about holding a global congress on 'Internet governance and public interest'. Happy to talk to those who may be interested. > > parminder > >> On Friday 15 May 2015 03:21 PM, Geetha Hariharan wrote: >> PFA the call for participation for the Global Congress on Intellectual >> Property and Public Interest. >> >> Apologies for cross-posting. Please do circulate to anyone you think >> might be interested. >> >> Best, >> Geetha. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Swaraj Barooah >> Date: Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:05 PM >> Subject: Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual >> Property and the Public Interest, 2015 >> >> Dear all, >> >> We are pleased to announce the call for participation for the fourth >> edition of the Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public >> Interest (“Global Congress”). The theme for this year’s Congress will be >> “Three Decades of Openness; Two Decades of TRIPS.” We are now inviting >> applications to participate in the Congress, including session >> participation and presentations. We are also welcoming proposals for >> panels and workshops. >> >> The application form is available now at >> [http://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?] Please note that this >> form is for application purposes, and does not amount to confirmation of >> participation. The registrations for the plenary sessions, which are >> open to the public, will open closer to the date of the Global Congress. >> >> Deadlines >> >> August 1st: Priority Deadline for Applications- Applicants will be >> considered on a rolling basis, with applications made by August 1st >> being given first consideration. Applications after August 1st to >> receive travel assistance will be considered only under exceptional >> circumstances (these details will be collected in a subsequent form). >> >> November 1st: All applications for session participation and paper >> submissions will close on November 1st. >> >> Application Information >> >> For applications to participate/host: Applications to present or host >> workshops shall be considered based on the proposals to be submitted in >> the form. >> >> For applications to attend sessions:Applications to attend sessions as >> discussants will be considered based on the statement of purpose and/or >> any other relevant information provided by the applicant. >> >> Limited travel grants to cover accommodation and/or travel to the >> Congress will be available, with priority to those from developing >> countries. >> >> Background, Theme and Expected Outcomes >> >> The Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest is >> the most significant event on the calendar for scholars and policy >> advocates working on intellectual property from a public interest >> perspective. By sharing their research and strategies, the network of >> experts and activists supported by the Global Congress are empowered to >> put forward a positive agenda for policy reform. The Global Congress >> began in Washington D.C. in 2011, moved to Rio de Janeiro in 2012, and >> was held in Cape Town in 2013. The fourth Global Congress will now be >> held in New Delhi, in December 2015. The event would be the largest >> convening of public interest-oriented intellectual property >> practitioners ever held in Asia, and would help link in the world's most >> populous region to these global debates around how intellectual property >> policy can best serve the public interest. >> >> The fourth edition of the Global Congress, which brings research, civil >> society, industry and regulatory and policy-making communities together >> for active, intense engagement on key public-interest intellectual >> property issues. Opportunities for these groups to interact are rare but >> valuable; and have been proven to lead to successful policy outcomes. >> The 4thedition of the Congress, slated to be held in December, 2015 in >> New Delhi seeks to be one such opportunity. >> >> The theme for the 2015 Congress is Three Decades of Openness; Two >> Decades of TRIPS-coming at a pivotal time for reflection, revision, and >> further strategizing. Specifically, the 2015 Congress seeks to produce >> three outcomes- first, the mobilization of existing scholarly research >> directly into the hands of civil society advocates, business leaders and >> policy makers, leading to evidence-based policies and practices; >> second,the collaborative identification of urgent, global and local >> research priorities and generation of a joint research/advocacy agenda; >> and third, the solidification of an inter-disciplinary, cross-sector and >> global networked community of experts focused on public interest aspects >> of IP policy and practice. >> >> Participation Opportunities >> >> Discussions at the Global Congress will be carried out in the form of >> plenary sessions, thematic tracks, cross-track sessions, and the room of >> scholars. Participation is invited for the thematic track sessions, >> cross-track sessions and the room of scholars. >> >> The thematic tracks at the Global Congress are: 1) Openness, 2) Access >> to Medicines, 3) User Rights, 4) IP and Development. >> >> Cross-track sessions will feature research that cuts across tracks in >> order to facilitate engagement between tracks on themes of mutual >> interest. >> >> The Room of Scholars will feature presentations of research outputs such >> as draft works or white papers that may not fit directly within the >> thematic tracks but fall within the overall theme of the Global Congress >> . >> >> Participation could be in the form of presenting / discussing conference >> papers or policy briefs, or by conducting workshops where they may share >> their own work and solicit feedback from peers, during the >> aforementioned sessions. >> >> The application form for participation is available now >> athttp://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?. Please forward this >> invitation to interested lists and individuals. For more information or >> questions, you may contact globalcongress2015 at gmail.com >> . >> >> Organisation >> >> The Centre for Internet and Society serves as the >> convenor of the fourth Global Congress on Intellectual Property and >> Public Interest, carried out in cooperation withNational Law University, >> Delhi . >> >> The implementing partners arethe American >> Assembly at Columbia University in New >> York,Open A.I.R ., and theProgram on >> Information Justice and Intellectual Property at >> American University Washington College of Law in Washington DC. >> >> >> On behalf of the organizing committee, >> >> Swaraj Barooah >> >> Swaraj Paul Barooah >> Project Manager, "Global Congress" >> (Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest, 2015) >> >> Editor-in-Chief, SpicyIP.com >> Founder, Know-GAP >> Twitter: @swarajpb > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > > To be removed from the list, visit: > > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From parminder at itforchange.net Tue May 19 08:50:28 2015 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 18:20:28 +0530 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> Message-ID: <555B3194.6020509@itforchange.net> On Tuesday 19 May 2015 03:35 PM, David Cake wrote: > My first reaction is that this seems to be a category error. A multi > stakeholder perspective is a description of how a workshop should be > constructed, and public interest a description of its content. David If you are still speaking of the same thing about which Peng Hwa and I were arguing, you are simply 'factually' wrong. The call for proposals spoke of 'multistakeholder perspective' with regard to content and not structure.... The precise language was "We now welcome proposals for pre-events or main workshop sessions which should present the proposed issue in an inclusive manner, incorporating a multi-stakeholder perspective....." I asked for "...incorporating a multistakeholder perspective" to be replaced by "incorporating a public interest perspective". It was always about the content of the workshop proposal and not the structure of workshop. I have been closely involved with the IGF, including its management structures, and know well what is meant by a multistakeholder 'structure' of a workshop. But of course one can now get into philosophical discussions about a certain sameness and continuity between structure and content. Please lets not do it and stick to the specific context. (More below) > One does not substitute for the other because they aren't the same > thing. Just as you couldn't claim a workshop was civil society only if > it was filled with commercial operators talking about their NGO > customers. Structure and composition of a workshop are different. And > frankly, Parminder, I'd be surprised if you couldn't put together a > multi-stakeholder workshop comprised entirely of sceptics of > multistakeholderism, which to my mind would incorporate a > 'multistakeholder perspective'. > > That said, I'm going to agree with Peng Hwa that 'public interest' is > a problematic term. There is a whole world of difference between (1) claiming that 'public interest is a problematic term' (especially when said at the same time as claiming that multistakeholderism is not) and (2) saying that 'determination of what is public interest in a given context is never easy, or even a problematic thing'. If determination of what constitutes public interest in a given context was not problematic we will not need politics and democracy. The latter institutions exist almost entirely to obtain a good and fair determination of what is pulbic interest, which they are still never able to do to everyone's satisfaction. So please do not confuse between 'public interest being a problematic term' and 'determination of what is public interest in any given context being problematic'. > The IP lobby are just one example of a group who, with some skill and > apparent sincerity, will strongly argue that advancing the relative > power of their narrow set of interests is also in the public interest > (the public surely wants to combat the various evils strengthened by > counterfeiting, they say). Governments always justify calls for > increased censorship and surveillance on public interest grounds (the > public must be protected from terrorism, drug smuggling, and > immorality). And you'd probably be quite appalled if you saw the uses > to which the concept has been put within ICANN, such as 'Public > Interest Commitments' taken on by many new GTLDs that commit them to > lobbyist led expansion of the rights of large trademark holders. > Almost every serious lobby group can manage the necessary mental > gymnastics to argue that they act in the public interest, and claiming > to act in the public interest is the go to strategy if you want to > justify overruling a community or consensus policy to favour your > lobby group. > > This isn't to say that a prolonged look at the issue of the public > interest - some serious examination of what relatively object ways we > have to determine it, or what processes lead to a relatively consensus > understanding of we determine public interest, wouldn't be very > valuable. A global process that looked at this idea would be great. I > think the current situation, where the concept is used to justify all > sorts of policies but is defined loosely or informally, is very > problematic. In this respect I agree with Parminder that it merits > much deeper discussion. Coming to the context of the series of congresses on 'Intellectual property and public interest', here is the list of participants of the 2011 Congress . Just one big business participant - Google among scores and scores others. And none in program committee, or among the hosing group or funders (except one, again Google, which is certainly an oddity, perhaps explainable but wont go there right now) . No way to me this looks like a multistakeholder or MS conference, as we have come to understand the term in the Internet governance space. /* *//*So, the question is why when we are considering policy issues or public interest in the Intellectual Property space, we rely on an assemblage *only* and *exclusively* of what can clearly be seen as public interest actors, and specifically exclude vested interests, (called stakeholders in the MS terminology), determination of policies or of public interest in the Internet governance space requires an equal participation of big business? Maybe you or any other MSist here will like to answer this key question.*/ As I said in my last email , I await putting forward of some Internet exceptional-ism arguments, about how IG is more expertise intensive (more than Intellectual Property or IP ??), or more private sector based (more than IP ??) or is more bottom up....... They clearly do not hold, but maybe some of you may want to flog them... > > But thinking of public interest as in some way opposed to, or distinct > from, multistakeholderism is a misguided position that is only going > to lead to a shallow and disappointing discussion. David, here you are turning the issue on its head , let me say, in somewhat disingenuous way. In arguing with APrIGF, it is not that I proposed 'dont use the MS word but use only public interest'. No, it were they who said, we wont use the pulbic interest word because it is not clear or is problematic. And of course youd remember in the recent UNESCO meeting; we did not say, pull out the MS word, we just said, also use the 'democratic' word: 'they' said, no 'democratic' cannot be used because it has baggage, while the MS word will stay (which they did not see as carrying any baggage). The problem is not about promoting multi-stakeholder participation. The problem is promoting a certain kind of MSism while at the same time decrying 'public interest (as an 'unclear problematic term'), democracy (as carrying baggage) and so on..... Now if you still do not see here a deliberate and strongly-invested process of building a post-democratic (and anti-democratic) vocabulary, theory and practice, then you just refuse to see it, about which I cant do much. parminder > > Regards > > David > > Sent from my iPad > > On 17 May 2015, at 3:46 pm, parminder > wrote: > >> Interesting theme of this series of global congresses: 'Intellectual >> Property and the Public Interest' ! >> >> Wonder if you ever thought of calling it "IP and the multistakeholder >> Interest' ? >> >> You all have have seen the discussion I recently had with Peng Hwa, >> head of the AP regional IGF process for many years, who strongly >> argued that public interest perspective is a very unclear concept but >> multistakeholder perspective or interest is much easier to establish. >> >> The discussion started when I objected to the call for workshops for >> the AP regional IGF which was categorical that every workshop >> proposal must incorporate a 'multistakeholder perspective'. I >> suggested that it be replaced by 'public interest'. This suggestion >> was not accepted. So, in fact, indeed the dominant groups involved >> with the IGF process do seem to think that 'public interest' is a >> problematic concept, and the idea of 'multistakeholder perspective' >> or interest is a positive political evolution over it! >> >> Friends, these are serious post-democratic developments to which, it >> is my duty of observe, most of the civil society involved in IG area >> are either a silent or active accomplices. >> >> Meanwhile, of course, I wait for arguments that Internet ( unlike >> intellectual property!?) is a bottom up , private, etc etc, thing, >> and therefore its governance has to be different.... Well, lets >> admit it, such an arugment really does not hold unless we are intent >> to be misled by it - the social artefact of the Internet is no more >> bottom up, private, etc that the social relationships of trade and >> property, whose governance continue to be done in democratic >> fashions... Time we claimed democratic governance for the Internet as >> well, and rubbish the post-democratic multistakeholderist ideas that >> are so solidly taking root in this space, for which the IG civil >> society will have to answer to history. >> >> Would anyone agree that the proposed global congress on IP and public >> interest to be held in a 'multistakeholder' way, with equal space for >> the big IP holders, as one always insists for an IG meeting... What >> really is the difference, other than that the discourse in the IG >> space has been captured by powerful forces before public interest >> actors could assert themselves. Civil society in this area must help >> in re-democraticing this area, and reclaiming 'public interest'. >> >> Meanwhile, my best wishes to the the organisers of this very >> importanr congress. >> >> In fact some of us have been talking about holding a global congress >> on 'Internet governance and public interest'. Happy to talk to those >> who may be interested. >> >> parminder >> >> On Friday 15 May 2015 03:21 PM, Geetha Hariharan wrote: >>> PFA the call for participation for the Global Congress on Intellectual >>> Property and Public Interest. >>> >>> Apologies for cross-posting. Please do circulate to anyone you think >>> might be interested. >>> >>> Best, >>> Geetha. >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Swaraj Barooah >>> Date: Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:05 PM >>> Subject: Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual >>> Property and the Public Interest, 2015 >>> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> We are pleased to announce the call for participation for the fourth >>> edition of the Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public >>> Interest (“Global Congress”). The theme for this year’s Congress will be >>> “Three Decades of Openness; Two Decades of TRIPS.” We are now inviting >>> applications to participate in the Congress, including session >>> participation and presentations. We are also welcoming proposals for >>> panels and workshops. >>> >>> The application form is available now at >>> [http://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?] Please note that this >>> form is for application purposes, and does not amount to confirmation of >>> participation. The registrations for the plenary sessions, which are >>> open to the public, will open closer to the date of the Global Congress. >>> >>> Deadlines >>> >>> August 1st: Priority Deadline for Applications- Applicants will be >>> considered on a rolling basis, with applications made by August 1st >>> being given first consideration. Applications after August 1st to >>> receive travel assistance will be considered only under exceptional >>> circumstances (these details will be collected in a subsequent form). >>> >>> November 1st: All applications for session participation and paper >>> submissions will close on November 1st. >>> >>> Application Information >>> >>> For applications to participate/host: Applications to present or host >>> workshops shall be considered based on the proposals to be submitted in >>> the form. >>> >>> For applications to attend sessions:Applications to attend sessions as >>> discussants will be considered based on the statement of purpose and/or >>> any other relevant information provided by the applicant. >>> >>> Limited travel grants to cover accommodation and/or travel to the >>> Congress will be available, with priority to those from developing >>> countries. >>> >>> Background, Theme and Expected Outcomes >>> >>> The Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest is >>> the most significant event on the calendar for scholars and policy >>> advocates working on intellectual property from a public interest >>> perspective. By sharing their research and strategies, the network of >>> experts and activists supported by the Global Congress are empowered to >>> put forward a positive agenda for policy reform. The Global Congress >>> began in Washington D.C. in 2011, moved to Rio de Janeiro in 2012, and >>> was held in Cape Town in 2013. The fourth Global Congress will now be >>> held in New Delhi, in December 2015. The event would be the largest >>> convening of public interest-oriented intellectual property >>> practitioners ever held in Asia, and would help link in the world's most >>> populous region to these global debates around how intellectual property >>> policy can best serve the public interest. >>> >>> The fourth edition of the Global Congress, which brings research, civil >>> society, industry and regulatory and policy-making communities together >>> for active, intense engagement on key public-interest intellectual >>> property issues. Opportunities for these groups to interact are rare but >>> valuable; and have been proven to lead to successful policy outcomes. >>> The 4thedition of the Congress, slated to be held in December, 2015 in >>> New Delhi seeks to be one such opportunity. >>> >>> The theme for the 2015 Congress is Three Decades of Openness; Two >>> Decades of TRIPS-coming at a pivotal time for reflection, revision, and >>> further strategizing. Specifically, the 2015 Congress seeks to produce >>> three outcomes- first, the mobilization of existing scholarly research >>> directly into the hands of civil society advocates, business leaders and >>> policy makers, leading to evidence-based policies and practices; >>> second,the collaborative identification of urgent, global and local >>> research priorities and generation of a joint research/advocacy agenda; >>> and third, the solidification of an inter-disciplinary, cross-sector and >>> global networked community of experts focused on public interest aspects >>> of IP policy and practice. >>> >>> Participation Opportunities >>> >>> Discussions at the Global Congress will be carried out in the form of >>> plenary sessions, thematic tracks, cross-track sessions, and the room of >>> scholars. Participation is invited for the thematic track sessions, >>> cross-track sessions and the room of scholars. >>> >>> The thematic tracks at the Global Congress are: 1) Openness, 2) Access >>> to Medicines, 3) User Rights, 4) IP and Development. >>> >>> Cross-track sessions will feature research that cuts across tracks in >>> order to facilitate engagement between tracks on themes of mutual >>> interest. >>> >>> The Room of Scholars will feature presentations of research outputs such >>> as draft works or white papers that may not fit directly within the >>> thematic tracks but fall within the overall theme of the Global Congress >>> . >>> >>> Participation could be in the form of presenting / discussing conference >>> papers or policy briefs, or by conducting workshops where they may share >>> their own work and solicit feedback from peers, during the >>> aforementioned sessions. >>> >>> The application form for participation is available now >>> athttp://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?. Please forward this >>> invitation to interested lists and individuals. For more information or >>> questions, you may contact globalcongress2015 at gmail.com >>> . >>> >>> Organisation >>> >>> The Centre for Internet and Society serves as the >>> convenor of the fourth Global Congress on Intellectual Property and >>> Public Interest, carried out in cooperation withNational Law University, >>> Delhi . >>> >>> The implementing partners arethe American >>> Assembly at Columbia University in New >>> York,Open A.I.R ., and theProgram on >>> Information Justice and Intellectual Property at >>> American University Washington College of Law in Washington DC. >>> >>> >>> On behalf of the organizing committee, >>> >>> Swaraj Barooah >>> >>> Swaraj Paul Barooah >>> Project Manager, "Global Congress" >>> (Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest, 2015) >>> >>> Editor-in-Chief, SpicyIP.com >>> Founder, Know-GAP >>> Twitter: @swarajpb >>> >> > >> > >> > ____________________________________________________________ >> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> > To be removed from the list, visit: >> > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> > >> > For all other list information and functions, see: >> > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> > http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> > >> > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net . >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de Tue May 19 10:01:12 2015 From: wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Kleinw=E4chter=2C_Wolfgang=22?=) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 16:01:12 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] Why? References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> <555B3194.6020509@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801642EBD@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Sorry for intervening: It is really a pitty that the discussion on this list is occupied by hairsplitting, "I told you but you do not listen" and "I am right and you are wrong". Why this civil society network, which once played an important role in policy development in the WSIS process, is unable to look forward where the real challenges are with the forthcoming WSIS 10+ processes and concentrate on substance and how to reach rough consensus? Why people do not respect anymore what Jon Postel has told us a quarter of a century ago in his robustness princple: "Be conservative in what you send, be liberal in what you accept". Why they do not remember the language of the CS WSIS Geneva Declaration from 2003? The Bali split (2013) has obviously long shadows and old warriors have overtaken the discussion. My hope is that the WSIS 10++ perspective will encourage a new generation of younger civil society people who feel more committed to the substance of real civil society activities and do not waste the limited resources and energies for infighting. And do not forget: The WGIG proposal for a multistakeholder approach in Internet Governance (2005) was a compromise between "governmental leadership" (China) and private sector leadership (USA)and it opened the door for civil society to become an inclusive part of the process. This was a boig achievement of that time and an opportunity. It is now up to the next generation of civil society activists to build on this oppportunity. It would be a big shame if this would be destroyed. Wolfgang -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org im Auftrag von parminder Gesendet: Di 19.05.2015 14:50 An: David Cake Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; BestBitsList; Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org Betreff: Re: [governance] [bestbits] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 On Tuesday 19 May 2015 03:35 PM, David Cake wrote: > My first reaction is that this seems to be a category error. A multi > stakeholder perspective is a description of how a workshop should be > constructed, and public interest a description of its content. David If you are still speaking of the same thing about which Peng Hwa and I were arguing, you are simply 'factually' wrong. The call for proposals spoke of 'multistakeholder perspective' with regard to content and not structure.... The precise language was "We now welcome proposals for pre-events or main workshop sessions which should present the proposed issue in an inclusive manner, incorporating a multi-stakeholder perspective....." I asked for "...incorporating a multistakeholder perspective" to be replaced by "incorporating a public interest perspective". It was always about the content of the workshop proposal and not the structure of workshop. I have been closely involved with the IGF, including its management structures, and know well what is meant by a multistakeholder 'structure' of a workshop. But of course one can now get into philosophical discussions about a certain sameness and continuity between structure and content. Please lets not do it and stick to the specific context. (More below) > One does not substitute for the other because they aren't the same > thing. Just as you couldn't claim a workshop was civil society only if > it was filled with commercial operators talking about their NGO > customers. Structure and composition of a workshop are different. And > frankly, Parminder, I'd be surprised if you couldn't put together a > multi-stakeholder workshop comprised entirely of sceptics of > multistakeholderism, which to my mind would incorporate a > 'multistakeholder perspective'. > > That said, I'm going to agree with Peng Hwa that 'public interest' is > a problematic term. There is a whole world of difference between (1) claiming that 'public interest is a problematic term' (especially when said at the same time as claiming that multistakeholderism is not) and (2) saying that 'determination of what is public interest in a given context is never easy, or even a problematic thing'. If determination of what constitutes public interest in a given context was not problematic we will not need politics and democracy. The latter institutions exist almost entirely to obtain a good and fair determination of what is pulbic interest, which they are still never able to do to everyone's satisfaction. So please do not confuse between 'public interest being a problematic term' and 'determination of what is public interest in any given context being problematic'. > The IP lobby are just one example of a group who, with some skill and > apparent sincerity, will strongly argue that advancing the relative > power of their narrow set of interests is also in the public interest > (the public surely wants to combat the various evils strengthened by > counterfeiting, they say). Governments always justify calls for > increased censorship and surveillance on public interest grounds (the > public must be protected from terrorism, drug smuggling, and > immorality). And you'd probably be quite appalled if you saw the uses > to which the concept has been put within ICANN, such as 'Public > Interest Commitments' taken on by many new GTLDs that commit them to > lobbyist led expansion of the rights of large trademark holders. > Almost every serious lobby group can manage the necessary mental > gymnastics to argue that they act in the public interest, and claiming > to act in the public interest is the go to strategy if you want to > justify overruling a community or consensus policy to favour your > lobby group. > > This isn't to say that a prolonged look at the issue of the public > interest - some serious examination of what relatively object ways we > have to determine it, or what processes lead to a relatively consensus > understanding of we determine public interest, wouldn't be very > valuable. A global process that looked at this idea would be great. I > think the current situation, where the concept is used to justify all > sorts of policies but is defined loosely or informally, is very > problematic. In this respect I agree with Parminder that it merits > much deeper discussion. Coming to the context of the series of congresses on 'Intellectual property and public interest', here is the list of participants of the 2011 Congress . Just one big business participant - Google among scores and scores others. And none in program committee, or among the hosing group or funders (except one, again Google, which is certainly an oddity, perhaps explainable but wont go there right now) . No way to me this looks like a multistakeholder or MS conference, as we have come to understand the term in the Internet governance space. /* *//*So, the question is why when we are considering policy issues or public interest in the Intellectual Property space, we rely on an assemblage *only* and *exclusively* of what can clearly be seen as public interest actors, and specifically exclude vested interests, (called stakeholders in the MS terminology), determination of policies or of public interest in the Internet governance space requires an equal participation of big business? Maybe you or any other MSist here will like to answer this key question.*/ As I said in my last email , I await putting forward of some Internet exceptional-ism arguments, about how IG is more expertise intensive (more than Intellectual Property or IP ??), or more private sector based (more than IP ??) or is more bottom up....... They clearly do not hold, but maybe some of you may want to flog them... > > But thinking of public interest as in some way opposed to, or distinct > from, multistakeholderism is a misguided position that is only going > to lead to a shallow and disappointing discussion. David, here you are turning the issue on its head , let me say, in somewhat disingenuous way. In arguing with APrIGF, it is not that I proposed 'dont use the MS word but use only public interest'. No, it were they who said, we wont use the pulbic interest word because it is not clear or is problematic. And of course youd remember in the recent UNESCO meeting; we did not say, pull out the MS word, we just said, also use the 'democratic' word: 'they' said, no 'democratic' cannot be used because it has baggage, while the MS word will stay (which they did not see as carrying any baggage). The problem is not about promoting multi-stakeholder participation. The problem is promoting a certain kind of MSism while at the same time decrying 'public interest (as an 'unclear problematic term'), democracy (as carrying baggage) and so on..... Now if you still do not see here a deliberate and strongly-invested process of building a post-democratic (and anti-democratic) vocabulary, theory and practice, then you just refuse to see it, about which I cant do much. parminder > > Regards > > David > > Sent from my iPad > > On 17 May 2015, at 3:46 pm, parminder > wrote: > >> Interesting theme of this series of global congresses: 'Intellectual >> Property and the Public Interest' ! >> >> Wonder if you ever thought of calling it "IP and the multistakeholder >> Interest' ? >> >> You all have have seen the discussion I recently had with Peng Hwa, >> head of the AP regional IGF process for many years, who strongly >> argued that public interest perspective is a very unclear concept but >> multistakeholder perspective or interest is much easier to establish. >> >> The discussion started when I objected to the call for workshops for >> the AP regional IGF which was categorical that every workshop >> proposal must incorporate a 'multistakeholder perspective'. I >> suggested that it be replaced by 'public interest'. This suggestion >> was not accepted. So, in fact, indeed the dominant groups involved >> with the IGF process do seem to think that 'public interest' is a >> problematic concept, and the idea of 'multistakeholder perspective' >> or interest is a positive political evolution over it! >> >> Friends, these are serious post-democratic developments to which, it >> is my duty of observe, most of the civil society involved in IG area >> are either a silent or active accomplices. >> >> Meanwhile, of course, I wait for arguments that Internet ( unlike >> intellectual property!?) is a bottom up , private, etc etc, thing, >> and therefore its governance has to be different.... Well, lets >> admit it, such an arugment really does not hold unless we are intent >> to be misled by it - the social artefact of the Internet is no more >> bottom up, private, etc that the social relationships of trade and >> property, whose governance continue to be done in democratic >> fashions... Time we claimed democratic governance for the Internet as >> well, and rubbish the post-democratic multistakeholderist ideas that >> are so solidly taking root in this space, for which the IG civil >> society will have to answer to history. >> >> Would anyone agree that the proposed global congress on IP and public >> interest to be held in a 'multistakeholder' way, with equal space for >> the big IP holders, as one always insists for an IG meeting... What >> really is the difference, other than that the discourse in the IG >> space has been captured by powerful forces before public interest >> actors could assert themselves. Civil society in this area must help >> in re-democraticing this area, and reclaiming 'public interest'. >> >> Meanwhile, my best wishes to the the organisers of this very >> importanr congress. >> >> In fact some of us have been talking about holding a global congress >> on 'Internet governance and public interest'. Happy to talk to those >> who may be interested. >> >> parminder >> >> On Friday 15 May 2015 03:21 PM, Geetha Hariharan wrote: >>> PFA the call for participation for the Global Congress on Intellectual >>> Property and Public Interest. >>> >>> Apologies for cross-posting. Please do circulate to anyone you think >>> might be interested. >>> >>> Best, >>> Geetha. >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Swaraj Barooah >>> Date: Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:05 PM >>> Subject: Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual >>> Property and the Public Interest, 2015 >>> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> We are pleased to announce the call for participation for the fourth >>> edition of the Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public >>> Interest ("Global Congress"). The theme for this year's Congress will be >>> "Three Decades of Openness; Two Decades of TRIPS." We are now inviting >>> applications to participate in the Congress, including session >>> participation and presentations. We are also welcoming proposals for >>> panels and workshops. >>> >>> The application form is available now at >>> [http://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?] Please note that this >>> form is for application purposes, and does not amount to confirmation of >>> participation. The registrations for the plenary sessions, which are >>> open to the public, will open closer to the date of the Global Congress. >>> >>> Deadlines >>> >>> August 1st: Priority Deadline for Applications- Applicants will be >>> considered on a rolling basis, with applications made by August 1st >>> being given first consideration. Applications after August 1st to >>> receive travel assistance will be considered only under exceptional >>> circumstances (these details will be collected in a subsequent form). >>> >>> November 1st: All applications for session participation and paper >>> submissions will close on November 1st. >>> >>> Application Information >>> >>> For applications to participate/host: Applications to present or host >>> workshops shall be considered based on the proposals to be submitted in >>> the form. >>> >>> For applications to attend sessions:Applications to attend sessions as >>> discussants will be considered based on the statement of purpose and/or >>> any other relevant information provided by the applicant. >>> >>> Limited travel grants to cover accommodation and/or travel to the >>> Congress will be available, with priority to those from developing >>> countries. >>> >>> Background, Theme and Expected Outcomes >>> >>> The Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest is >>> the most significant event on the calendar for scholars and policy >>> advocates working on intellectual property from a public interest >>> perspective. By sharing their research and strategies, the network of >>> experts and activists supported by the Global Congress are empowered to >>> put forward a positive agenda for policy reform. The Global Congress >>> began in Washington D.C. in 2011, moved to Rio de Janeiro in 2012, and >>> was held in Cape Town in 2013. The fourth Global Congress will now be >>> held in New Delhi, in December 2015. The event would be the largest >>> convening of public interest-oriented intellectual property >>> practitioners ever held in Asia, and would help link in the world's most >>> populous region to these global debates around how intellectual property >>> policy can best serve the public interest. >>> >>> The fourth edition of the Global Congress, which brings research, civil >>> society, industry and regulatory and policy-making communities together >>> for active, intense engagement on key public-interest intellectual >>> property issues. Opportunities for these groups to interact are rare but >>> valuable; and have been proven to lead to successful policy outcomes. >>> The 4thedition of the Congress, slated to be held in December, 2015 in >>> New Delhi seeks to be one such opportunity. >>> >>> The theme for the 2015 Congress is Three Decades of Openness; Two >>> Decades of TRIPS-coming at a pivotal time for reflection, revision, and >>> further strategizing. Specifically, the 2015 Congress seeks to produce >>> three outcomes- first, the mobilization of existing scholarly research >>> directly into the hands of civil society advocates, business leaders and >>> policy makers, leading to evidence-based policies and practices; >>> second,the collaborative identification of urgent, global and local >>> research priorities and generation of a joint research/advocacy agenda; >>> and third, the solidification of an inter-disciplinary, cross-sector and >>> global networked community of experts focused on public interest aspects >>> of IP policy and practice. >>> >>> Participation Opportunities >>> >>> Discussions at the Global Congress will be carried out in the form of >>> plenary sessions, thematic tracks, cross-track sessions, and the room of >>> scholars. Participation is invited for the thematic track sessions, >>> cross-track sessions and the room of scholars. >>> >>> The thematic tracks at the Global Congress are: 1) Openness, 2) Access >>> to Medicines, 3) User Rights, 4) IP and Development. >>> >>> Cross-track sessions will feature research that cuts across tracks in >>> order to facilitate engagement between tracks on themes of mutual >>> interest. >>> >>> The Room of Scholars will feature presentations of research outputs such >>> as draft works or white papers that may not fit directly within the >>> thematic tracks but fall within the overall theme of the Global Congress >>> . >>> >>> Participation could be in the form of presenting / discussing conference >>> papers or policy briefs, or by conducting workshops where they may share >>> their own work and solicit feedback from peers, during the >>> aforementioned sessions. >>> >>> The application form for participation is available now >>> athttp://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?. Please forward this >>> invitation to interested lists and individuals. For more information or >>> questions, you may contact globalcongress2015 at gmail.com >>> . >>> >>> Organisation >>> >>> The Centre for Internet and Society serves as the >>> convenor of the fourth Global Congress on Intellectual Property and >>> Public Interest, carried out in cooperation withNational Law University, >>> Delhi . >>> >>> The implementing partners arethe American >>> Assembly at Columbia University in New >>> York,Open A.I.R ., and theProgram on >>> Information Justice and Intellectual Property at >>> American University Washington College of Law in Washington DC. >>> >>> >>> On behalf of the organizing committee, >>> >>> Swaraj Barooah >>> >>> Swaraj Paul Barooah >>> Project Manager, "Global Congress" >>> (Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest, 2015) >>> >>> Editor-in-Chief, SpicyIP.com >>> Founder, Know-GAP >>> Twitter: @swarajpb >>> >> > >> > >> > ____________________________________________________________ >> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> > To be removed from the list, visit: >> > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> > >> > For all other list information and functions, see: >> > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> > http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> > >> > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net . >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits From george.sadowsky at gmail.com Tue May 19 12:40:41 2015 From: george.sadowsky at gmail.com (George Sadowsky) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 12:40:41 -0400 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Why? In-Reply-To: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801642EBD@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> <555B3194.6020509@itforchange.net> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801642EBD@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: <4C5C7760-A57F-4D5E-8E45-F5BED4696034@gmail.com> All, I strongly agree with what Wolfgang says below. I've been very involved in civil society projects in the past, and I have been following these lists for years and from time to time, contributing significantly to them. I've stopped contributing to the lists because I see little purpose in it. They appear to focus mostly on who is undisputedly right in a variety of definitions and intellectual arguments. Unless there are, first and foremost, some relatively shared and agreed upon achievable goals, these discussions become nothing more than a conversation. If you have the time, and are interested in the topic, then you join the conversation. But let's not confuse such a conversation with serious consideration of progress toward goals. Once you have goals that are sufficiently clearly articulated and accepted, then you need to agree on the various means of working toward achieving them. Perhaps I'm not thinking in the right way about this subject, but I don't see either of the above processes taking place in these lists. Bickering has taken over. Without goals and a plan, I personally don't see much relevance or value in the current milieu of unpleasant exchanges of messages. George On May 19, 2015, at 10:01 AM, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote: > Sorry for intervening: It is really a pitty that the discussion on this list is occupied by hairsplitting, "I told you but you do not listen" and "I am right and you are wrong". Why this civil society network, which once played an important role in policy development in the WSIS process, is unable to look forward where the real challenges are with the forthcoming WSIS 10+ processes and concentrate on substance and how to reach rough consensus? Why people do not respect anymore what Jon Postel has told us a quarter of a century ago in his robustness princple: "Be conservative in what you send, be liberal in what you accept". Why they do not remember the language of the CS WSIS Geneva Declaration from 2003? > > The Bali split (2013) has obviously long shadows and old warriors have overtaken the discussion. > > My hope is that the WSIS 10++ perspective will encourage a new generation of younger civil society people who feel more committed to the substance of real civil society activities and do not waste the limited resources and energies for infighting. And do not forget: The WGIG proposal for a multistakeholder approach in Internet Governance (2005) was a compromise between "governmental leadership" (China) and private sector leadership (USA)and it opened the door for civil society to become an inclusive part of the process. This was a boig achievement of that time and an opportunity. It is now up to the next generation of civil society activists to build on this oppportunity. It would be a big shame if this would be destroyed. > > Wolfgang > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org im Auftrag von parminder > Gesendet: Di 19.05.2015 14:50 > An: David Cake > Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; BestBitsList; Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org > Betreff: Re: [governance] [bestbits] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 > > > > On Tuesday 19 May 2015 03:35 PM, David Cake wrote: >> My first reaction is that this seems to be a category error. A multi >> stakeholder perspective is a description of how a workshop should be >> constructed, and public interest a description of its content. > > David > If you are still speaking of the same thing about which Peng Hwa and I > were arguing, you are simply 'factually' wrong. The call for proposals > spoke of 'multistakeholder perspective' with regard to content and not > structure.... > > The precise language was "We now welcome proposals for pre-events or > main workshop sessions which should present the proposed issue in an > inclusive manner, incorporating a multi-stakeholder perspective....." > > I asked for "...incorporating a multistakeholder perspective" to be > replaced by "incorporating a public interest perspective". It was > always about the content of the workshop proposal and not the structure > of workshop. > > I have been closely involved with the IGF, including its management > structures, and know well what is meant by a multistakeholder > 'structure' of a workshop. > > But of course one can now get into philosophical discussions about a > certain sameness and continuity between structure and content. Please > lets not do it and stick to the specific context. (More below) > > >> One does not substitute for the other because they aren't the same >> thing. Just as you couldn't claim a workshop was civil society only if >> it was filled with commercial operators talking about their NGO >> customers. Structure and composition of a workshop are different. And >> frankly, Parminder, I'd be surprised if you couldn't put together a >> multi-stakeholder workshop comprised entirely of sceptics of >> multistakeholderism, which to my mind would incorporate a >> 'multistakeholder perspective'. >> >> That said, I'm going to agree with Peng Hwa that 'public interest' is >> a problematic term. > > There is a whole world of difference between (1) claiming that 'public > interest is a problematic term' (especially when said at the same time > as claiming that multistakeholderism is not) and (2) saying that > 'determination of what is public interest in a given context is never > easy, or even a problematic thing'. If determination of what constitutes > public interest in a given context was not problematic we will not need > politics and democracy. The latter institutions exist almost entirely to > obtain a good and fair determination of what is pulbic interest, which > they are still never able to do to everyone's satisfaction. So please do > not confuse between 'public interest being a problematic term' and > 'determination of what is public interest in any given context being > problematic'. > > >> The IP lobby are just one example of a group who, with some skill and >> apparent sincerity, will strongly argue that advancing the relative >> power of their narrow set of interests is also in the public interest >> (the public surely wants to combat the various evils strengthened by >> counterfeiting, they say). Governments always justify calls for >> increased censorship and surveillance on public interest grounds (the >> public must be protected from terrorism, drug smuggling, and >> immorality). And you'd probably be quite appalled if you saw the uses >> to which the concept has been put within ICANN, such as 'Public >> Interest Commitments' taken on by many new GTLDs that commit them to >> lobbyist led expansion of the rights of large trademark holders. >> Almost every serious lobby group can manage the necessary mental >> gymnastics to argue that they act in the public interest, and claiming >> to act in the public interest is the go to strategy if you want to >> justify overruling a community or consensus policy to favour your >> lobby group. >> >> This isn't to say that a prolonged look at the issue of the public >> interest - some serious examination of what relatively object ways we >> have to determine it, or what processes lead to a relatively consensus >> understanding of we determine public interest, wouldn't be very >> valuable. A global process that looked at this idea would be great. I >> think the current situation, where the concept is used to justify all >> sorts of policies but is defined loosely or informally, is very >> problematic. In this respect I agree with Parminder that it merits >> much deeper discussion. > > Coming to the context of the series of congresses on 'Intellectual > property and public interest', here is the list of participants > of > the 2011 Congress . Just one big business participant - Google among > scores and scores others. And none in program committee, or among the > hosing group or funders (except one, again Google, which is certainly an > oddity, perhaps explainable but wont go there right now) . No way to me > this looks like a multistakeholder or MS conference, as we have come to > understand the term in the Internet governance space. > /* > *//*So, the question is why when we are considering policy issues or > public interest in the Intellectual Property space, we rely on an > assemblage *only* and *exclusively* of what can clearly be seen as > public interest actors, and specifically exclude vested interests, > (called stakeholders in the MS terminology), determination of policies > or of public interest in the Internet governance space requires an equal > participation of big business? Maybe you or any other MSist here will > like to answer this key question.*/ > > As I said in my last email , I await putting forward of some Internet > exceptional-ism arguments, about how IG is more expertise intensive > (more than Intellectual Property or IP ??), or more private sector based > (more than IP ??) or is more bottom up....... They clearly do not hold, > but maybe some of you may want to flog them... >> >> But thinking of public interest as in some way opposed to, or distinct >> from, multistakeholderism is a misguided position that is only going >> to lead to a shallow and disappointing discussion. > > David, here you are turning the issue on its head , let me say, in > somewhat disingenuous way. In arguing with APrIGF, it is not that I > proposed 'dont use the MS word but use only public interest'. No, it > were they who said, we wont use the pulbic interest word because it is > not clear or is problematic. And of course youd remember in the recent > UNESCO meeting; we did not say, pull out the MS word, we just said, also > use the 'democratic' word: 'they' said, no 'democratic' cannot be used > because it has baggage, while the MS word will stay (which they did not > see as carrying any baggage). > > The problem is not about promoting multi-stakeholder participation. The > problem is promoting a certain kind of MSism while at the same time > decrying 'public interest (as an 'unclear problematic term'), democracy > (as carrying baggage) and so on..... > > Now if you still do not see here a deliberate and strongly-invested > process of building a post-democratic (and anti-democratic) vocabulary, > theory and practice, then you just refuse to see it, about which I cant > do much. > > parminder > >> >> Regards >> >> David >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 17 May 2015, at 3:46 pm, parminder > > wrote: >> >>> Interesting theme of this series of global congresses: 'Intellectual >>> Property and the Public Interest' ! >>> >>> Wonder if you ever thought of calling it "IP and the multistakeholder >>> Interest' ? >>> >>> You all have have seen the discussion I recently had with Peng Hwa, >>> head of the AP regional IGF process for many years, who strongly >>> argued that public interest perspective is a very unclear concept but >>> multistakeholder perspective or interest is much easier to establish. >>> >>> The discussion started when I objected to the call for workshops for >>> the AP regional IGF which was categorical that every workshop >>> proposal must incorporate a 'multistakeholder perspective'. I >>> suggested that it be replaced by 'public interest'. This suggestion >>> was not accepted. So, in fact, indeed the dominant groups involved >>> with the IGF process do seem to think that 'public interest' is a >>> problematic concept, and the idea of 'multistakeholder perspective' >>> or interest is a positive political evolution over it! >>> >>> Friends, these are serious post-democratic developments to which, it >>> is my duty of observe, most of the civil society involved in IG area >>> are either a silent or active accomplices. >>> >>> Meanwhile, of course, I wait for arguments that Internet ( unlike >>> intellectual property!?) is a bottom up , private, etc etc, thing, >>> and therefore its governance has to be different.... Well, lets >>> admit it, such an arugment really does not hold unless we are intent >>> to be misled by it - the social artefact of the Internet is no more >>> bottom up, private, etc that the social relationships of trade and >>> property, whose governance continue to be done in democratic >>> fashions... Time we claimed democratic governance for the Internet as >>> well, and rubbish the post-democratic multistakeholderist ideas that >>> are so solidly taking root in this space, for which the IG civil >>> society will have to answer to history. >>> >>> Would anyone agree that the proposed global congress on IP and public >>> interest to be held in a 'multistakeholder' way, with equal space for >>> the big IP holders, as one always insists for an IG meeting... What >>> really is the difference, other than that the discourse in the IG >>> space has been captured by powerful forces before public interest >>> actors could assert themselves. Civil society in this area must help >>> in re-democraticing this area, and reclaiming 'public interest'. >>> >>> Meanwhile, my best wishes to the the organisers of this very >>> importanr congress. >>> >>> In fact some of us have been talking about holding a global congress >>> on 'Internet governance and public interest'. Happy to talk to those >>> who may be interested. >>> >>> parminder >>> >>> On Friday 15 May 2015 03:21 PM, Geetha Hariharan wrote: >>>> PFA the call for participation for the Global Congress on Intellectual >>>> Property and Public Interest. >>>> >>>> Apologies for cross-posting. Please do circulate to anyone you think >>>> might be interested. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Geetha. >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: Swaraj Barooah >>>> Date: Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:05 PM >>>> Subject: Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual >>>> Property and the Public Interest, 2015 >>>> >>>> Dear all, >>>> >>>> We are pleased to announce the call for participation for the fourth >>>> edition of the Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public >>>> Interest ("Global Congress"). The theme for this year's Congress will be >>>> "Three Decades of Openness; Two Decades of TRIPS." We are now inviting >>>> applications to participate in the Congress, including session >>>> participation and presentations. We are also welcoming proposals for >>>> panels and workshops. >>>> >>>> The application form is available now at >>>> [http://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?] Please note that this >>>> form is for application purposes, and does not amount to confirmation of >>>> participation. The registrations for the plenary sessions, which are >>>> open to the public, will open closer to the date of the Global Congress. >>>> >>>> Deadlines >>>> >>>> August 1st: Priority Deadline for Applications- Applicants will be >>>> considered on a rolling basis, with applications made by August 1st >>>> being given first consideration. Applications after August 1st to >>>> receive travel assistance will be considered only under exceptional >>>> circumstances (these details will be collected in a subsequent form). >>>> >>>> November 1st: All applications for session participation and paper >>>> submissions will close on November 1st. >>>> >>>> Application Information >>>> >>>> For applications to participate/host: Applications to present or host >>>> workshops shall be considered based on the proposals to be submitted in >>>> the form. >>>> >>>> For applications to attend sessions:Applications to attend sessions as >>>> discussants will be considered based on the statement of purpose and/or >>>> any other relevant information provided by the applicant. >>>> >>>> Limited travel grants to cover accommodation and/or travel to the >>>> Congress will be available, with priority to those from developing >>>> countries. >>>> >>>> Background, Theme and Expected Outcomes >>>> >>>> The Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest is >>>> the most significant event on the calendar for scholars and policy >>>> advocates working on intellectual property from a public interest >>>> perspective. By sharing their research and strategies, the network of >>>> experts and activists supported by the Global Congress are empowered to >>>> put forward a positive agenda for policy reform. The Global Congress >>>> began in Washington D.C. in 2011, moved to Rio de Janeiro in 2012, and >>>> was held in Cape Town in 2013. The fourth Global Congress will now be >>>> held in New Delhi, in December 2015. The event would be the largest >>>> convening of public interest-oriented intellectual property >>>> practitioners ever held in Asia, and would help link in the world's most >>>> populous region to these global debates around how intellectual property >>>> policy can best serve the public interest. >>>> >>>> The fourth edition of the Global Congress, which brings research, civil >>>> society, industry and regulatory and policy-making communities together >>>> for active, intense engagement on key public-interest intellectual >>>> property issues. Opportunities for these groups to interact are rare but >>>> valuable; and have been proven to lead to successful policy outcomes. >>>> The 4thedition of the Congress, slated to be held in December, 2015 in >>>> New Delhi seeks to be one such opportunity. >>>> >>>> The theme for the 2015 Congress is Three Decades of Openness; Two >>>> Decades of TRIPS-coming at a pivotal time for reflection, revision, and >>>> further strategizing. Specifically, the 2015 Congress seeks to produce >>>> three outcomes- first, the mobilization of existing scholarly research >>>> directly into the hands of civil society advocates, business leaders and >>>> policy makers, leading to evidence-based policies and practices; >>>> second,the collaborative identification of urgent, global and local >>>> research priorities and generation of a joint research/advocacy agenda; >>>> and third, the solidification of an inter-disciplinary, cross-sector and >>>> global networked community of experts focused on public interest aspects >>>> of IP policy and practice. >>>> >>>> Participation Opportunities >>>> >>>> Discussions at the Global Congress will be carried out in the form of >>>> plenary sessions, thematic tracks, cross-track sessions, and the room of >>>> scholars. Participation is invited for the thematic track sessions, >>>> cross-track sessions and the room of scholars. >>>> >>>> The thematic tracks at the Global Congress are: 1) Openness, 2) Access >>>> to Medicines, 3) User Rights, 4) IP and Development. >>>> >>>> Cross-track sessions will feature research that cuts across tracks in >>>> order to facilitate engagement between tracks on themes of mutual >>>> interest. >>>> >>>> The Room of Scholars will feature presentations of research outputs such >>>> as draft works or white papers that may not fit directly within the >>>> thematic tracks but fall within the overall theme of the Global Congress >>>> . >>>> >>>> Participation could be in the form of presenting / discussing conference >>>> papers or policy briefs, or by conducting workshops where they may share >>>> their own work and solicit feedback from peers, during the >>>> aforementioned sessions. >>>> >>>> The application form for participation is available now >>>> athttp://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?. Please forward this >>>> invitation to interested lists and individuals. For more information or >>>> questions, you may contact globalcongress2015 at gmail.com >>>> . >>>> >>>> Organisation >>>> >>>> The Centre for Internet and Society serves as the >>>> convenor of the fourth Global Congress on Intellectual Property and >>>> Public Interest, carried out in cooperation withNational Law University, >>>> Delhi . >>>> >>>> The implementing partners arethe American >>>> Assembly at Columbia University in New >>>> York,Open A.I.R ., and theProgram on >>>> Information Justice and Intellectual Property at >>>> American University Washington College of Law in Washington DC. >>>> >>>> >>>> On behalf of the organizing committee, >>>> >>>> Swaraj Barooah >>>> >>>> Swaraj Paul Barooah >>>> Project Manager, "Global Congress" >>>> (Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest, 2015) >>>> >>>> Editor-in-Chief, SpicyIP.com >>>> Founder, Know-GAP >>>> Twitter: @swarajpb >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net . >>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >>> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From seth.p.johnson at gmail.com Tue May 5 14:39:08 2015 From: seth.p.johnson at gmail.com (Seth Johnson) Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 14:39:08 -0400 Subject: [bestbits] =?UTF-8?Q?Facebook=E2=80=99s_Internet=2Eorg_Isn?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=99t_the_Internet=2C_It=E2=80=99s_Facebooknet?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, this is great progress. If all you've got is a dominant intranet (like a Comcast or Verizon IncumbentNet) and no ready access to the infrastructure to become a peer in the network yourself, then you're not talking about a network of networks in the first place. Facebook is taking advantage of an IncumbentNet enabling environment to put across a huge con job. The whole zero rating thing is stuck in that bogus frame. You're really close to the Internet Distinction line. :-) Seth On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Josh Levy wrote: > Thanks for sharing Seth. > > We're at a crossroads on this issue, and we have a real opportunity for the > global community of Net Neutrality advocates to make a strong, public > statement of support for real Net Neutrality, and to push back against > Zuckerberg's assertions. > > We're working on a draft of an open letter to Mark Zuckerberg right now - > would others be interested in such a tactic? > > On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Seth Johnson > wrote: >> >> Just gets a lot right: >> >> Facebook’s Internet.org Isn’t the Internet, It’s Facebooknet >> http://www.wired.com/2015/05/opinion-internet-org-facebooknet/ >> >> >> Seth >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > > > -- > Josh Levy > Advocacy Director > Access | accessnow.org > > tel: + 1 917 609 6523 | @levjoy > PGP: 0x84C9F275 > Fingerprint: B56A D510 3142 2364 69C7 3961 A0A3 67A5 84C9 F275 > > Join the Access team - we're hiring! > From jmalcolm at eff.org Tue May 19 12:51:22 2015 From: jmalcolm at eff.org (Jeremy Malcolm) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 09:51:22 -0700 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: <555B3194.6020509@itforchange.net> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> <555B3194.6020509@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <555B6A0A.7000504@eff.org> On 19/05/2015 5:50 am, parminder wrote: > Coming to the context of the series of congresses on 'Intellectual > property and public interest', here is the list of participants > of > the 2011 Congress . Just one big business participant - Google among > scores and scores others. And none in program committee, or among the > hosing group or funders (except one, again Google, which is certainly > an oddity, perhaps explainable but wont go there right now) . No way > to me this looks like a multistakeholder or MS conference, as we have > come to understand the term in the Internet governance space. Apples and oranges; the Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest never purported to be a multi-stakeholder event; it is closer to a Best Bits meeting or your Internet Social Forum, both of which are civil society only, than it is to something like the IGF. -- Jeremy Malcolm Senior Global Policy Analyst Electronic Frontier Foundation https://eff.org jmalcolm at eff.org Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161 :: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World :: Public key: https://www.eff.org/files/2014/10/09/key_jmalcolm.txt PGP fingerprint: FF13 C2E9 F9C3 DF54 7C4F EAC1 F675 AAE2 D2AB 2220 OTR fingerprint: 26EE FD85 3740 8228 9460 49A8 536F BCD2 536F A5BD Learn how to encrypt your email with the Email Self Defense guide: https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The Global Congress on IP has been one of the most important spaces were radical civil society has mobilised and strategised against some of the most problematic US-government lead initiatives with regard to impact on access to knowledge in recent years - ACTA and TPP. I have only ever been an observer at the Global Congress (when it was in Cape Town in 2013) but have always learnt a lot, and I really value the work that this community does in WIPO among other spaces. In Africa the Global Congress has collaborated with projects such as the African Access to Knowledge project.. people that we have done really important work with, and who have influenced intellectual property legislation positively. They work with groups such as councils for the blind and visually impaired, and the library community. People that we need in internet governance spaces if we want to build movement for social justice in internet governance. I find it extremely disappointing and distressing that the debate in this thread is not about substantial issues that the Global Congress will address, but about whether it is 'multistakeholder' or not - evolving into yet another set of assertions that everyone who supports the notion of multistakeholder in ANY sense at all is by definition coopted by empire. Why not write about substantive issues, and about how to pursue a social justice agenda around the issues that are internet-related that the Global Congress will address? Anriette On 19/05/2015 18:51, Jeremy Malcolm wrote: > On 19/05/2015 5:50 am, parminder wrote: >> Coming to the context of the series of congresses on 'Intellectual >> property and public interest', here is the list of participants >> of >> the 2011 Congress . Just one big business participant - Google among >> scores and scores others. And none in program committee, or among the >> hosing group or funders (except one, again Google, which is certainly >> an oddity, perhaps explainable but wont go there right now) . No way >> to me this looks like a multistakeholder or MS conference, as we have >> come to understand the term in the Internet governance space. > > Apples and oranges; the Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest > never purported to be a multi-stakeholder event; it is closer to a Best > Bits meeting or your Internet Social Forum, both of which are civil > society only, than it is to something like the IGF. > > -- > Jeremy Malcolm > Senior Global Policy Analyst > Electronic Frontier Foundation > https://eff.org > jmalcolm at eff.org > > Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161 > > :: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World :: > > Public key: https://www.eff.org/files/2014/10/09/key_jmalcolm.txt > PGP fingerprint: FF13 C2E9 F9C3 DF54 7C4F EAC1 F675 AAE2 D2AB 2220 > OTR fingerprint: 26EE FD85 3740 8228 9460 49A8 536F BCD2 536F A5BD > > Learn how to encrypt your email with the Email Self Defense guide: > https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > From lmcknigh at syr.edu Tue May 19 14:42:05 2015 From: lmcknigh at syr.edu (Lee W McKnight) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 18:42:05 +0000 Subject: [bestbits] Why? Lessons from the Internet Mercantile Protocol listserv and yet another IGC Failure to Communicate In-Reply-To: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801642EBD@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> <555B3194.6020509@itforchange.net>,<2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801642EBD@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: <2f2fbb80f7544f39bdb71fe0aac16dfb@EX13-MBX-07.ad.syr.edu> Wolfgang, and kind of echoing George and Nick's comments... Your as usual astute commentary reminds me of an - old story, which I fail to keep short below. But yes there are points/morals of my story. Some may just wish to delete/ignore...which is of course everyone's prerogative. Once upon a time.. in the late 80'/early 90's: An open email listserv was set up to discuss an 'Internet Mercantile Protocol.' Anyone interested in doing so could self-subscribe to the lightly moderated list. At that time, NSFNET by which pre-commercial Internet backbone was interconnected, was governed per USG rules by an Acceptable Use Policy prohibiting commercial business on the increasing global non-profit research and education network. NSFNET and its AUP were due to end 94/95. The Internet Mercantile Protocol listerv was set up to address the question of what could be done to define open online, trusted, and secure transaction procedures and processes. To save the day for an Internet free of commercial taint, several - enthusiastic - self-proclaimed anarcho-syndicalists joined the IMP list. They announced they were there expressly to disrupt any further meaningful discussions of what at that point were just hypothetical discussions of a non-existent Internet Mercantile Protocol. So to be clear, the anarcho-syndicalists were polite enough to announce their plans up front. : ). Their clearly stated purpose was to - prevent - commercialization of the Internet, by preventing development of protocols/standards for transactions. Within a few months, the IMP list descended into - just noise. Moral of the story: Anarcho-syndicalists can win, no IMP was ever developed. Post-moral of the the story observation: Well, except for the minor (? ; ) detail...that Internet Commerce came anyway. With standards developed in typically, less open fora, than that established by the IMP listserv. Where civil society input was more difficult to embed, than it might otherwise have been if the IMP were permitted to attempt to serve both public and private interests in the emergence of -global , national, and local - online commerce. One might argue. I stayed on the list for several more years, and was always amused when a - newbie - stumbled upon it, joined, and then sent a message into the...virtual wild west....where the anarcho-syndicalists of the early net ruled. The newbies were promptly shouted down, if they were responded to at all. After a couple years there seemed to be noone left on the IMP list but me and...several of my anarcho-syndicalist friends and colleagues. True moral of the story: The IMP listserv died completely, just about the time ecommerce started to take off for real. So it is indeed true, back in the day, the future commercial Internet, in a state of nature, was ruled for a time by anarcho-syndicalists, who came to dominate the Internet Mercantile Protocol listserv. Since most everyone else save this sociologically curious prof, had long fled that curious scene. Congrats to them - on their - victory? : ) My comments/suggestions for IGCers, not meaning offense to anyone....and please recall I was the longest lasting friend/colleague of the original anarcho-syndicalists fighting the good fight for the public interest on an increasingly commercial net: 1) In an alternate or perhaps this universe, maybe well-meaning CS folks could be more clever and manage to not not drive even more of the - real business - of maintaining and extending the global net of nets into even more closed fora and processes, variously ruled by governments and/or firms. 2) Since in most of those fora, CS multi-stakeholders, however defined, are by design without seats at the table; and alternate forms of democratic governance are unlikely to be found either. Or am I hopelessly naive, and history must repeat itself - especially when the history is of a farce? I should just get more popcorn and enjoy this sequel? : ( (No offense to anyone on the list, but the original anarcho-syndicalists were way -way - more entertaining than much of what passes for debate these days on the IGC listserv : ) Final plea/theoretical observation: Us CS self-proclaimed leaders and individual activists, on this list and others, just like those self-proclaimed anarcho-syndicalists back in the day, admittedly imperfectly represent also (some of) the broader interests of individuals both already on, and the many more not yet able to even access the Facebook-special net of nets. Defining this reality in political theory and practice terms, beyond and behind multi-stakeholderism is the not always glorious history of corporatism, and neo-corporatism which naturally some theorists/advocates would rather not remind folks of. But the generally more positive histories of (some) standards organizations and various expert commissions and similar bodies defined and abiding with democratic governance rules are also out there to point to; which must serve the public interest or they violate their legal mandates. So yes they, and we, must exist in a democratic context, and serve the public interest - both however ill-defined. By equally theoretically mushy multi-stakeholder processes. But to expect the average citizen/voter to - ever - get excited about all the minutia needed to keep the net up and reliable 24/7 X 365 X forever - is unrealistic. Netheads and code jockeys still rule what they must, as do IP rightsholders, and governments, and...so on. And, because it is indeed about among other things the money, many many businesses cannot afford to not have seats at the tables. Are we surprised? Is any of this news? We can safely assume many more private Internets/walled gardens are in all of our futures, as well as in the future of the next couple Billion; absent concerted actions such as those just taken re Facebook's Internet.org , Zuckerberg's own private net of nets. In my opinion, in the coming 5G/Future Internet of Things world(s) that is 100% guaranteed. If CS and fellow multi-stakeholders cannot talk among themselves without the - noise level - which has this list rivaling the IMP in its level of epic - failure to communicate - then...can't we all just get along? Ok never mind, guess not : ( Lee PS: To put it more bluntly and gloomily, how long til this list, which often seems to be but a faint echo of its rather illustrious past but which now - practically speaking, nothing can be done - descends to point it joins the IMP in the dead listerv 'could have been a contender' virtual Hall of Fame for those (not) shaping the Internet's ongoing evolution? Except to tip cap to our heroic moderators, Ian Peter and colleagues trying to manage to at least nominate a few good folks to a few helpful roles. Final irony: this is thanks entirely to Avri and the early importation by IGC of classic IETF multistakeholder processes for randomly fair and balanced nomcoms ; ) ________________________________________ From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org on behalf of "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 10:01 AM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; parminder; David Cake Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; BestBitsList; Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org Subject: [governance] Why? Sorry for intervening: It is really a pitty that the discussion on this list is occupied by hairsplitting, "I told you but you do not listen" and "I am right and you are wrong". Why this civil society network, which once played an important role in policy development in the WSIS process, is unable to look forward where the real challenges are with the forthcoming WSIS 10+ processes and concentrate on substance and how to reach rough consensus? Why people do not respect anymore what Jon Postel has told us a quarter of a century ago in his robustness princple: "Be conservative in what you send, be liberal in what you accept". Why they do not remember the language of the CS WSIS Geneva Declaration from 2003? The Bali split (2013) has obviously long shadows and old warriors have overtaken the discussion. My hope is that the WSIS 10++ perspective will encourage a new generation of younger civil society people who feel more committed to the substance of real civil society activities and do not waste the limited resources and energies for infighting. And do not forget: The WGIG proposal for a multistakeholder approach in Internet Governance (2005) was a compromise between "governmental leadership" (China) and private sector leadership (USA)and it opened the door for civil society to become an inclusive part of the process. This was a boig achievement of that time and an opportunity. It is now up to the next generation of civil society activists to build on this oppportunity. It would be a big shame if this would be destroyed. Wolfgang -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org im Auftrag von parminder Gesendet: Di 19.05.2015 14:50 An: David Cake Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; BestBitsList; Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org Betreff: Re: [governance] [bestbits] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 On Tuesday 19 May 2015 03:35 PM, David Cake wrote: > My first reaction is that this seems to be a category error. A multi > stakeholder perspective is a description of how a workshop should be > constructed, and public interest a description of its content. David If you are still speaking of the same thing about which Peng Hwa and I were arguing, you are simply 'factually' wrong. The call for proposals spoke of 'multistakeholder perspective' with regard to content and not structure.... The precise language was "We now welcome proposals for pre-events or main workshop sessions which should present the proposed issue in an inclusive manner, incorporating a multi-stakeholder perspective....." I asked for "...incorporating a multistakeholder perspective" to be replaced by "incorporating a public interest perspective". It was always about the content of the workshop proposal and not the structure of workshop. I have been closely involved with the IGF, including its management structures, and know well what is meant by a multistakeholder 'structure' of a workshop. But of course one can now get into philosophical discussions about a certain sameness and continuity between structure and content. Please lets not do it and stick to the specific context. (More below) > One does not substitute for the other because they aren't the same > thing. Just as you couldn't claim a workshop was civil society only if > it was filled with commercial operators talking about their NGO > customers. Structure and composition of a workshop are different. And > frankly, Parminder, I'd be surprised if you couldn't put together a > multi-stakeholder workshop comprised entirely of sceptics of > multistakeholderism, which to my mind would incorporate a > 'multistakeholder perspective'. > > That said, I'm going to agree with Peng Hwa that 'public interest' is > a problematic term. There is a whole world of difference between (1) claiming that 'public interest is a problematic term' (especially when said at the same time as claiming that multistakeholderism is not) and (2) saying that 'determination of what is public interest in a given context is never easy, or even a problematic thing'. If determination of what constitutes public interest in a given context was not problematic we will not need politics and democracy. The latter institutions exist almost entirely to obtain a good and fair determination of what is pulbic interest, which they are still never able to do to everyone's satisfaction. So please do not confuse between 'public interest being a problematic term' and 'determination of what is public interest in any given context being problematic'. > The IP lobby are just one example of a group who, with some skill and > apparent sincerity, will strongly argue that advancing the relative > power of their narrow set of interests is also in the public interest > (the public surely wants to combat the various evils strengthened by > counterfeiting, they say). Governments always justify calls for > increased censorship and surveillance on public interest grounds (the > public must be protected from terrorism, drug smuggling, and > immorality). And you'd probably be quite appalled if you saw the uses > to which the concept has been put within ICANN, such as 'Public > Interest Commitments' taken on by many new GTLDs that commit them to > lobbyist led expansion of the rights of large trademark holders. > Almost every serious lobby group can manage the necessary mental > gymnastics to argue that they act in the public interest, and claiming > to act in the public interest is the go to strategy if you want to > justify overruling a community or consensus policy to favour your > lobby group. > > This isn't to say that a prolonged look at the issue of the public > interest - some serious examination of what relatively object ways we > have to determine it, or what processes lead to a relatively consensus > understanding of we determine public interest, wouldn't be very > valuable. A global process that looked at this idea would be great. I > think the current situation, where the concept is used to justify all > sorts of policies but is defined loosely or informally, is very > problematic. In this respect I agree with Parminder that it merits > much deeper discussion. Coming to the context of the series of congresses on 'Intellectual property and public interest', here is the list of participants of the 2011 Congress . Just one big business participant - Google among scores and scores others. And none in program committee, or among the hosing group or funders (except one, again Google, which is certainly an oddity, perhaps explainable but wont go there right now) . No way to me this looks like a multistakeholder or MS conference, as we have come to understand the term in the Internet governance space. /* *//*So, the question is why when we are considering policy issues or public interest in the Intellectual Property space, we rely on an assemblage *only* and *exclusively* of what can clearly be seen as public interest actors, and specifically exclude vested interests, (called stakeholders in the MS terminology), determination of policies or of public interest in the Internet governance space requires an equal participation of big business? Maybe you or any other MSist here will like to answer this key question.*/ As I said in my last email , I await putting forward of some Internet exceptional-ism arguments, about how IG is more expertise intensive (more than Intellectual Property or IP ??), or more private sector based (more than IP ??) or is more bottom up....... They clearly do not hold, but maybe some of you may want to flog them... > > But thinking of public interest as in some way opposed to, or distinct > from, multistakeholderism is a misguided position that is only going > to lead to a shallow and disappointing discussion. David, here you are turning the issue on its head , let me say, in somewhat disingenuous way. In arguing with APrIGF, it is not that I proposed 'dont use the MS word but use only public interest'. No, it were they who said, we wont use the pulbic interest word because it is not clear or is problematic. And of course youd remember in the recent UNESCO meeting; we did not say, pull out the MS word, we just said, also use the 'democratic' word: 'they' said, no 'democratic' cannot be used because it has baggage, while the MS word will stay (which they did not see as carrying any baggage). The problem is not about promoting multi-stakeholder participation. The problem is promoting a certain kind of MSism while at the same time decrying 'public interest (as an 'unclear problematic term'), democracy (as carrying baggage) and so on..... Now if you still do not see here a deliberate and strongly-invested process of building a post-democratic (and anti-democratic) vocabulary, theory and practice, then you just refuse to see it, about which I cant do much. parminder > > Regards > > David > > Sent from my iPad > > On 17 May 2015, at 3:46 pm, parminder > wrote: > >> Interesting theme of this series of global congresses: 'Intellectual >> Property and the Public Interest' ! >> >> Wonder if you ever thought of calling it "IP and the multistakeholder >> Interest' ? >> >> You all have have seen the discussion I recently had with Peng Hwa, >> head of the AP regional IGF process for many years, who strongly >> argued that public interest perspective is a very unclear concept but >> multistakeholder perspective or interest is much easier to establish. >> >> The discussion started when I objected to the call for workshops for >> the AP regional IGF which was categorical that every workshop >> proposal must incorporate a 'multistakeholder perspective'. I >> suggested that it be replaced by 'public interest'. This suggestion >> was not accepted. So, in fact, indeed the dominant groups involved >> with the IGF process do seem to think that 'public interest' is a >> problematic concept, and the idea of 'multistakeholder perspective' >> or interest is a positive political evolution over it! >> >> Friends, these are serious post-democratic developments to which, it >> is my duty of observe, most of the civil society involved in IG area >> are either a silent or active accomplices. >> >> Meanwhile, of course, I wait for arguments that Internet ( unlike >> intellectual property!?) is a bottom up , private, etc etc, thing, >> and therefore its governance has to be different.... Well, lets >> admit it, such an arugment really does not hold unless we are intent >> to be misled by it - the social artefact of the Internet is no more >> bottom up, private, etc that the social relationships of trade and >> property, whose governance continue to be done in democratic >> fashions... Time we claimed democratic governance for the Internet as >> well, and rubbish the post-democratic multistakeholderist ideas that >> are so solidly taking root in this space, for which the IG civil >> society will have to answer to history. >> >> Would anyone agree that the proposed global congress on IP and public >> interest to be held in a 'multistakeholder' way, with equal space for >> the big IP holders, as one always insists for an IG meeting... What >> really is the difference, other than that the discourse in the IG >> space has been captured by powerful forces before public interest >> actors could assert themselves. Civil society in this area must help >> in re-democraticing this area, and reclaiming 'public interest'. >> >> Meanwhile, my best wishes to the the organisers of this very >> importanr congress. >> >> In fact some of us have been talking about holding a global congress >> on 'Internet governance and public interest'. Happy to talk to those >> who may be interested. >> >> parminder >> >> On Friday 15 May 2015 03:21 PM, Geetha Hariharan wrote: >>> PFA the call for participation for the Global Congress on Intellectual >>> Property and Public Interest. >>> >>> Apologies for cross-posting. Please do circulate to anyone you think >>> might be interested. >>> >>> Best, >>> Geetha. >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Swaraj Barooah >>> Date: Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:05 PM >>> Subject: Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual >>> Property and the Public Interest, 2015 >>> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> We are pleased to announce the call for participation for the fourth >>> edition of the Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public >>> Interest ("Global Congress"). The theme for this year's Congress will be >>> "Three Decades of Openness; Two Decades of TRIPS." We are now inviting >>> applications to participate in the Congress, including session >>> participation and presentations. We are also welcoming proposals for >>> panels and workshops. >>> >>> The application form is available now at >>> [http://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?] Please note that this >>> form is for application purposes, and does not amount to confirmation of >>> participation. The registrations for the plenary sessions, which are >>> open to the public, will open closer to the date of the Global Congress. >>> >>> Deadlines >>> >>> August 1st: Priority Deadline for Applications- Applicants will be >>> considered on a rolling basis, with applications made by August 1st >>> being given first consideration. Applications after August 1st to >>> receive travel assistance will be considered only under exceptional >>> circumstances (these details will be collected in a subsequent form). >>> >>> November 1st: All applications for session participation and paper >>> submissions will close on November 1st. >>> >>> Application Information >>> >>> For applications to participate/host: Applications to present or host >>> workshops shall be considered based on the proposals to be submitted in >>> the form. >>> >>> For applications to attend sessions:Applications to attend sessions as >>> discussants will be considered based on the statement of purpose and/or >>> any other relevant information provided by the applicant. >>> >>> Limited travel grants to cover accommodation and/or travel to the >>> Congress will be available, with priority to those from developing >>> countries. >>> >>> Background, Theme and Expected Outcomes >>> >>> The Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest is >>> the most significant event on the calendar for scholars and policy >>> advocates working on intellectual property from a public interest >>> perspective. By sharing their research and strategies, the network of >>> experts and activists supported by the Global Congress are empowered to >>> put forward a positive agenda for policy reform. The Global Congress >>> began in Washington D.C. in 2011, moved to Rio de Janeiro in 2012, and >>> was held in Cape Town in 2013. The fourth Global Congress will now be >>> held in New Delhi, in December 2015. The event would be the largest >>> convening of public interest-oriented intellectual property >>> practitioners ever held in Asia, and would help link in the world's most >>> populous region to these global debates around how intellectual property >>> policy can best serve the public interest. >>> >>> The fourth edition of the Global Congress, which brings research, civil >>> society, industry and regulatory and policy-making communities together >>> for active, intense engagement on key public-interest intellectual >>> property issues. Opportunities for these groups to interact are rare but >>> valuable; and have been proven to lead to successful policy outcomes. >>> The 4thedition of the Congress, slated to be held in December, 2015 in >>> New Delhi seeks to be one such opportunity. >>> >>> The theme for the 2015 Congress is Three Decades of Openness; Two >>> Decades of TRIPS-coming at a pivotal time for reflection, revision, and >>> further strategizing. Specifically, the 2015 Congress seeks to produce >>> three outcomes- first, the mobilization of existing scholarly research >>> directly into the hands of civil society advocates, business leaders and >>> policy makers, leading to evidence-based policies and practices; >>> second,the collaborative identification of urgent, global and local >>> research priorities and generation of a joint research/advocacy agenda; >>> and third, the solidification of an inter-disciplinary, cross-sector and >>> global networked community of experts focused on public interest aspects >>> of IP policy and practice. >>> >>> Participation Opportunities >>> >>> Discussions at the Global Congress will be carried out in the form of >>> plenary sessions, thematic tracks, cross-track sessions, and the room of >>> scholars. Participation is invited for the thematic track sessions, >>> cross-track sessions and the room of scholars. >>> >>> The thematic tracks at the Global Congress are: 1) Openness, 2) Access >>> to Medicines, 3) User Rights, 4) IP and Development. >>> >>> Cross-track sessions will feature research that cuts across tracks in >>> order to facilitate engagement between tracks on themes of mutual >>> interest. >>> >>> The Room of Scholars will feature presentations of research outputs such >>> as draft works or white papers that may not fit directly within the >>> thematic tracks but fall within the overall theme of the Global Congress >>> . >>> >>> Participation could be in the form of presenting / discussing conference >>> papers or policy briefs, or by conducting workshops where they may share >>> their own work and solicit feedback from peers, during the >>> aforementioned sessions. >>> >>> The application form for participation is available now >>> athttp://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?. Please forward this >>> invitation to interested lists and individuals. For more information or >>> questions, you may contact globalcongress2015 at gmail.com >>> . >>> >>> Organisation >>> >>> The Centre for Internet and Society serves as the >>> convenor of the fourth Global Congress on Intellectual Property and >>> Public Interest, carried out in cooperation withNational Law University, >>> Delhi . >>> >>> The implementing partners arethe American >>> Assembly at Columbia University in New >>> York,Open A.I.R ., and theProgram on >>> Information Justice and Intellectual Property at >>> American University Washington College of Law in Washington DC. >>> >>> >>> On behalf of the organizing committee, >>> >>> Swaraj Barooah >>> >>> Swaraj Paul Barooah >>> Project Manager, "Global Congress" >>> (Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest, 2015) >>> >>> Editor-in-Chief, SpicyIP.com >>> Founder, Know-GAP >>> Twitter: @swarajpb >>> >> > >> > >> > ____________________________________________________________ >> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> > To be removed from the list, visit: >> > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> > >> > For all other list information and functions, see: >> > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> > http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> > >> > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net . >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits From willi.uebelherr at gmail.com Tue May 19 15:20:52 2015 From: willi.uebelherr at gmail.com (willi uebelherr) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 16:20:52 -0300 Subject: [bestbits] Why? In-Reply-To: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801642EBD@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> <555B3194.6020509@itforchange.net> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801642EBD@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: <555B8D14.9030504@gmail.com> Dear Wolfgang, i think, i understand, what you mean. But, if you quote Jon Postel with: "Be conservative in what you send, be liberal in what you accept" then you should try to use it. The form of intervening of you, George, Nick can also create a pressure against an open discussion about our funamentals. Therefore, we have to be liberal and create an open space. But for our self, we try to be strictly. In every discussion we find good things, good ideas, good description of relations. But i will repeat. The reality in the "Internet" is defined from other groups and people. Our friends want to go in, more deeper in the space of creation. But in fact, all activ people in this IGF groups and instituions are observers. And the reflection of this feeling and realization we can read nearly in all discussions. many greetings, willi Cordoba, Argentina Am 19-May-15 um 11:01 schrieb "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang": > Sorry for intervening: It is really a pitty that the discussion on this list is occupied by hairsplitting, "I told you but you do not listen" and "I am right and you are wrong". Why this civil society network, which once played an important role in policy development in the WSIS process, is unable to look forward where the real challenges are with the forthcoming WSIS 10+ processes and concentrate on substance and how to reach rough consensus? Why people do not respect anymore what Jon Postel has told us a quarter of a century ago in his robustness princple: "Be conservative in what you send, be liberal in what you accept". Why they do not remember the language of the CS WSIS Geneva Declaration from 2003? > > The Bali split (2013) has obviously long shadows and old warriors have overtaken the discussion. > > My hope is that the WSIS 10++ perspective will encourage a new generation of younger civil society people who feel more committed to the substance of real civil society activities and do not waste the limited resources and energies for infighting. And do not forget: The WGIG proposal for a multistakeholder approach in Internet Governance (2005) was a compromise between "governmental leadership" (China) and private sector leadership (USA)and it opened the door for civil society to become an inclusive part of the process. This was a boig achievement of that time and an opportunity. It is now up to the next generation of civil society activists to build on this oppportunity. It would be a big shame if this would be destroyed. > > Wolfgang > From george.sadowsky at gmail.com Tue May 19 15:31:15 2015 From: george.sadowsky at gmail.com (George Sadowsky) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 15:31:15 -0400 Subject: [bestbits] Why? In-Reply-To: <555B8D14.9030504@gmail.com> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> <555B3194.6020509@itforchange.net> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801642EBD@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <555B8D14.9030504@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B7933CE-31D2-4AFA-A2BF-F8B64CC6CFC3@gmail.com> Having an open discussion about what you call fundamentals is OK, although I wouldn't characterize the current discussions as respectful or progressive. But let's not confuse that goal with the goal of advancing broader civil society agenda, as Anriette has mentioned in her recent post. Perhaps the overall purpose of these list(s) should be discussed, decided and stated. That way people won't enter into discussions that they consider not in their interest. George On May 19, 2015, at 3:20 PM, willi uebelherr wrote: > Dear Wolfgang, > > i think, i understand, what you mean. But, if you quote Jon Postel with: > "Be conservative in what you send, be liberal in what you accept" > then you should try to use it. > > The form of intervening of you, George, Nick can also create a pressure against an open discussion about our funamentals. Therefore, we have to be liberal and create an open space. But for our self, we try to be strictly. > > In every discussion we find good things, good ideas, good description of relations. But i will repeat. The reality in the "Internet" is defined from other groups and people. Our friends want to go in, more deeper in the space of creation. But in fact, all activ people in this IGF groups and instituions are observers. > > And the reflection of this feeling and realization we can read nearly in all discussions. > > many greetings, willi > Cordoba, Argentina > > > Am 19-May-15 um 11:01 schrieb "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang": >> Sorry for intervening: It is really a pitty that the discussion on this list is occupied by hairsplitting, "I told you but you do not listen" and "I am right and you are wrong". Why this civil society network, which once played an important role in policy development in the WSIS process, is unable to look forward where the real challenges are with the forthcoming WSIS 10+ processes and concentrate on substance and how to reach rough consensus? Why people do not respect anymore what Jon Postel has told us a quarter of a century ago in his robustness princple: "Be conservative in what you send, be liberal in what you accept". Why they do not remember the language of the CS WSIS Geneva Declaration from 2003? >> >> The Bali split (2013) has obviously long shadows and old warriors have overtaken the discussion. >> >> My hope is that the WSIS 10++ perspective will encourage a new generation of younger civil society people who feel more committed to the substance of real civil society activities and do not waste the limited resources and energies for infighting. And do not forget: The WGIG proposal for a multistakeholder approach in Internet Governance (2005) was a compromise between "governmental leadership" (China) and private sector leadership (USA)and it opened the door for civil society to become an inclusive part of the process. This was a boig achievement of that time and an opportunity. It is now up to the next generation of civil society activists to build on this oppportunity. It would be a big shame if this would be destroyed. >> >> Wolfgang >> > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits From willi.uebelherr at gmail.com Tue May 19 18:27:50 2015 From: willi.uebelherr at gmail.com (willi uebelherr) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 19:27:50 -0300 Subject: [bestbits] Why? In-Reply-To: <4B7933CE-31D2-4AFA-A2BF-F8B64CC6CFC3@gmail.com> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> <555B3194.6020509@itforchange.net> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801642EBD@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <555B8D14.9030504@gmail.com> <4B7933CE-31D2-4AFA-A2BF-F8B64CC6CFC3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <555BB8E6.2010501@gmail.com> Dear George. "Perhaps the overall purpose of these list(s) should be discussed, decided and stated." This is one way. And mostly, it never works. We have to go another way. To do it self. Try to organize our thinking. Our goals to make ourselves aware. So to reflect. We have to understand ourselve. To understand, what moves us. Then, we understand more and better the other people. How they act and how they speak. Yes, the text from Anriette was very fantastic. "Why not write about substantive issues, and about how to pursue a social justice agenda around the issues that are internet-related ...". The "Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest" i don't understand clearly. And i am not sure, that the questions and contradictions from Intellectual Property and Public Interest are really discussed. Intellectual Property In our history it never exist. The first installation come in the 12th Century in England. But also after this time, the knowledge was always a common good. And if we analyze ourselve, how we can create knowledge in our head, then never we speak about "Intellectual Property" in a positive form. It is robbery to the community. Therefore i formulate: "knowledge is always world heritage". And i know, that the most people in our world think the same. Therefore, this is the "Public Interest". Access to the Internet I think, it is clear. The free access to this transport system of digital data in packet form. The, the people can communicate, can exchange her ideas and experiences, have a free access to the free knowledge. This is very simple. We destroy all this stupid construction in the architecture, that the most powerful groups can decide and define. This is for me the "Public Interest". many greetings, willi Cordoba, Argentina Am 19-May-15 um 16:31 schrieb George Sadowsky: > Having an open discussion about what you call fundamentals is OK, although I wouldn't characterize the current discussions as respectful or progressive. But let's not confuse that goal with the goal of advancing broader civil society agenda, as Anriette has mentioned in her recent post. > > Perhaps the overall purpose of these list(s) should be discussed, decided and stated. That way people won't enter into discussions that they consider not in their interest. > > George From jefsey at jefsey.com Tue May 19 19:02:59 2015 From: jefsey at jefsey.com (JFC Morfin) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 01:02:59 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Why? References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> <555B3194.6020509@itforchange.net> Message-ID: Dear Wolfgang, Your question is pertinent. My response will be simple: the Civil Society that we have is inadequate because in the global network power game it has no power. You are right, it had some influence. This was when the private sector was learning how to adapt and use the liberal activists to better reach the conservative consumers. This period is over: CS people travel and stay at hotels at the private sector’s expenses and/or as part of some national delegations. The ICANN Internet has lost its disruptive interest. It has become a business road. The activist power was in the technology and innovation. Nothing has basically changed since 1983.1.1. IETF was created in 1986 by the USG to make sure that everything would be and would stay NSA-compatible. (I was made to close my innovation shop - and its RFC 923 16 million IP addresses :-) at that date by McDD). And ever since, everyone, including Governments, Militaries, Businesses, Merchants, etc. have been happy with this. In 1998, after Jon Postel started toying with the US root, they created the unique root 13 server legend (proving that he could not have technically done what he had :-)). And every digitally illiterate activist was happy with it. Then, progressively, China split from the ICANN's joke, with a local multiroot system. South Korea and China toyed with Aliases. This raised concerns among the private sector enough to consider an upgrade of the StatUS-quo strategy. The I*Core was revamped. At-large was framed in an obedient CS support organization. Industries reviewed their stands (Unicode, IEEE, W3C) with the ISOC help (and a State Department contractor). The update was ready in Aug 2012 before Dubai: it survived becoming a minority position vs. the Governments. Snowden helped a lot in delaying them (the US NSA bashing was a good point against every national NSA). In this multilateral vs multistakeholderism confrontation, there is a lot that the CS does not even understand anymore in the mentally engineered “technopolitically correct” context, and is also powerless to impose omnistakeholderism. Omniconsumerism has taken the lead, RosettaNet and the WEF are the Internet future. The NTIA has changed the WSIS State/Civil Society/Private Sector/Internationa organization enhanced cooperation multstakeholderism, into a business multitakeholderism where States are accepted on an equal footing basis with ICANN, GAFAMs, USCC, etc. My reading is simple. In our area, all of these are patches for a BUG. That BUG is the ICANN design to Be Unilaterally Global. As long as the NTIA is its sponsor, the BUG is a feature. Unfortunately, the CS activists are not any better than the IAB as architects because they have not worked enough on the reality's root. Not the root of the DNS, but rather the root of our changing (technological singularity) society, i.e. at the architectonical layer; what is changing man in changing the digital environment. This only means that CS activists are depressed. And they do not know how to revive themselves, i.e. to get some power back. Your new CS generation is simple to imagine. It will resume the pre-1985 non-NSA-constrained visionary path. Relational space oriented, Multitechnology, multioverlay physical and virtual architecture, OSI layer six presentation layer for security, extended intelligent services, multilingualism, etc. The second objective of “The catenet model for internetworking” of Vint Cerf's (IEN 48). The practical question now is how many CS activists will join in asking the IAB/IETF to provide guidance on full TCP/IP internet technology use, in a MULTICANN context, and support the emergence of BUG fixes, at individual user level through the proliferation of "MYCANN-Plugs-in". Then, you will see a real pre-revolutionary debate. Please remember that in the IoT context every CPU is a weapon: we have not yet started considering the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_smart_grid_protocol OSGP issue. Should CS be technically aware ... The real CS need as regards the global digital illiteracy is to increase literacy. The real task of CS people is to teach people what the internet is. A single authoritative internet book, rather than 8,000 RFCs. There are the so-called Names, Numbers, and Protocols Communities. The really missing one is the Unique Master Documentation Community. Then you will have a debate (1) about what the Internet technology can do (2) how to use it (3) how to extend, improve, and replace it depending on what you want to achieve and how. Discussing goals that you do not know how to achieve is rather boring. The CS is bored. Cheers! jfc At 16:01 19/05/2015, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote: >Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >Content-class: urn:content-classes:messages > >Sorry for intervening: It is really a pitty that >the discussion on this list is occupied by >hairsplitting, "I told you but you do not >listen" and "I am right and you are wrong". Why >this civil society network, which once played an >important role in policy development in the WSIS >process, is unable to look forward where the >real challenges are with the forthcoming WSIS >10+ processes and concentrate on substance and >how to reach rough consensus? Why people do not >respect anymore what Jon Postel has told us a >quarter of a century ago in his robustness >princple: "Be conservative in what you send, be >liberal in what you accept". Why they do not >remember the language of the CS WSIS Geneva Declaration from 2003? > >The Bali split (2013) has obviously long shadows >and old warriors have overtaken the discussion. > >My hope is that the WSIS 10++ perspective will >encourage a new generation of younger civil >society people who feel more committed to the >substance of real civil society activities and >do not waste the limited resources and energies >for infighting. And do not forget: The WGIG >proposal for a multistakeholder approach in >Internet Governance (2005) was a compromise >between "governmental leadership" (China) and >private sector leadership (USA)and it opened the >door for civil society to become an inclusive >part of the process. This was a boig achievement >of that time and an opportunity. It is now up to >the next generation of civil society activists >to build on this oppportunity. It would be a big >shame if this would be destroyed. > >Wolfgang > > > > >-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >Von: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org im Auftrag von parminder >Gesendet: Di 19.05.2015 14:50 >An: David Cake >Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; BestBitsList; Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org >Betreff: Re: [governance] [bestbits] Call for >Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual >Property and the Public Interest, 2015 > > > >On Tuesday 19 May 2015 03:35 PM, David Cake wrote: > > My first reaction is that this seems to be a category error. A multi > > stakeholder perspective is a description of how a workshop should be > > constructed, and public interest a description of its content. > >David >If you are still speaking of the same thing about which Peng Hwa and I >were arguing, you are simply 'factually' wrong. The call for proposals >spoke of 'multistakeholder perspective' with regard to content and not >structure.... > >The precise language was "We now welcome proposals for pre-events or >main workshop sessions which should present the proposed issue in an >inclusive manner, incorporating a multi-stakeholder perspective....." > >I asked for "...incorporating a multistakeholder perspective" to be >replaced by "incorporating a public interest perspective". It was >always about the content of the workshop proposal and not the structure >of workshop. > >I have been closely involved with the IGF, including its management >structures, and know well what is meant by a multistakeholder >'structure' of a workshop. > >But of course one can now get into philosophical discussions about a >certain sameness and continuity between structure and content. Please >lets not do it and stick to the specific context. (More below) > > > > One does not substitute for the other because they aren't the same > > thing. Just as you couldn't claim a workshop was civil society only if > > it was filled with commercial operators talking about their NGO > > customers. Structure and composition of a workshop are different. And > > frankly, Parminder, I'd be surprised if you couldn't put together a > > multi-stakeholder workshop comprised entirely of sceptics of > > multistakeholderism, which to my mind would incorporate a > > 'multistakeholder perspective'. > > > > That said, I'm going to agree with Peng Hwa that 'public interest' is > > a problematic term. > >There is a whole world of difference between (1) claiming that 'public >interest is a problematic term' (especially when said at the same time >as claiming that multistakeholderism is not) and (2) saying that >'determination of what is public interest in a given context is never >easy, or even a problematic thing'. If determination of what constitutes >public interest in a given context was not problematic we will not need >politics and democracy. The latter institutions exist almost entirely to >obtain a good and fair determination of what is pulbic interest, which >they are still never able to do to everyone's satisfaction. So please do >not confuse between 'public interest being a problematic term' and >'determination of what is public interest in any given context being >problematic'. > > > > The IP lobby are just one example of a group who, with some skill and > > apparent sincerity, will strongly argue that advancing the relative > > power of their narrow set of interests is also in the public interest > > (the public surely wants to combat the various evils strengthened by > > counterfeiting, they say). Governments always justify calls for > > increased censorship and surveillance on public interest grounds (the > > public must be protected from terrorism, drug smuggling, and > > immorality). And you'd probably be quite appalled if you saw the uses > > to which the concept has been put within ICANN, such as 'Public > > Interest Commitments' taken on by many new GTLDs that commit them to > > lobbyist led expansion of the rights of large trademark holders. > > Almost every serious lobby group can manage the necessary mental > > gymnastics to argue that they act in the public interest, and claiming > > to act in the public interest is the go to strategy if you want to > > justify overruling a community or consensus policy to favour your > > lobby group. > > > > This isn't to say that a prolonged look at the issue of the public > > interest - some serious examination of what relatively object ways we > > have to determine it, or what processes lead to a relatively consensus > > understanding of we determine public interest, wouldn't be very > > valuable. A global process that looked at this idea would be great. I > > think the current situation, where the concept is used to justify all > > sorts of policies but is defined loosely or informally, is very > > problematic. In this respect I agree with Parminder that it merits > > much deeper discussion. > >Coming to the context of the series of congresses on 'Intellectual >property and public interest', here is the list of participants >of >the 2011 Congress . Just one big business participant - Google among >scores and scores others. And none in program committee, or among the >hosing group or funders (except one, again Google, which is certainly an >oddity, perhaps explainable but wont go there right now) . No way to me >this looks like a multistakeholder or MS conference, as we have come to >understand the term in the Internet governance space. >/* >*//*So, the question is why when we are considering policy issues or >public interest in the Intellectual Property space, we rely on an >assemblage *only* and *exclusively* of what can clearly be seen as >public interest actors, and specifically exclude vested interests, >(called stakeholders in the MS terminology), determination of policies >or of public interest in the Internet governance space requires an equal >participation of big business? Maybe you or any other MSist here will >like to answer this key question.*/ > >As I said in my last email , I await putting forward of some Internet >exceptional-ism arguments, about how IG is more expertise intensive >(more than Intellectual Property or IP ??), or more private sector based >(more than IP ??) or is more bottom up....... They clearly do not hold, >but maybe some of you may want to flog them... > > > > But thinking of public interest as in some way opposed to, or distinct > > from, multistakeholderism is a misguided position that is only going > > to lead to a shallow and disappointing discussion. > >David, here you are turning the issue on its head , let me say, in >somewhat disingenuous way. In arguing with APrIGF, it is not that I >proposed 'dont use the MS word but use only public interest'. No, it >were they who said, we wont use the pulbic interest word because it is >not clear or is problematic. And of course youd remember in the recent >UNESCO meeting; we did not say, pull out the MS word, we just said, also >use the 'democratic' word: 'they' said, no 'democratic' cannot be used >because it has baggage, while the MS word will stay (which they did not >see as carrying any baggage). > >The problem is not about promoting multi-stakeholder participation. The >problem is promoting a certain kind of MSism while at the same time >decrying 'public interest (as an 'unclear problematic term'), democracy >(as carrying baggage) and so on..... > >Now if you still do not see here a deliberate and strongly-invested >process of building a post-democratic (and anti-democratic) vocabulary, >theory and practice, then you just refuse to see it, about which I cant >do much. > >parminder > > > > > Regards > > > > David > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On 17 May 2015, at 3:46 pm, parminder > > wrote: > > > >> Interesting theme of this series of global congresses: 'Intellectual > >> Property and the Public Interest' ! > >> > >> Wonder if you ever thought of calling it "IP and the multistakeholder > >> Interest' ? > >> > >> You all have have seen the discussion I recently had with Peng Hwa, > >> head of the AP regional IGF process for many years, who strongly > >> argued that public interest perspective is a very unclear concept but > >> multistakeholder perspective or interest is much easier to establish. > >> > >> The discussion started when I objected to the call for workshops for > >> the AP regional IGF which was categorical that every workshop > >> proposal must incorporate a 'multistakeholder perspective'. I > >> suggested that it be replaced by 'public interest'. This suggestion > >> was not accepted. So, in fact, indeed the dominant groups involved > >> with the IGF process do seem to think that 'public interest' is a > >> problematic concept, and the idea of 'multistakeholder perspective' > >> or interest is a positive political evolution over it! > >> > >> Friends, these are serious post-democratic developments to which, it > >> is my duty of observe, most of the civil society involved in IG area > >> are either a silent or active accomplices. > >> > >> Meanwhile, of course, I wait for arguments that Internet ( unlike > >> intellectual property!?) is a bottom up , private, etc etc, thing, > >> and therefore its governance has to be different.... Well, lets > >> admit it, such an arugment really does not hold unless we are intent > >> to be misled by it - the social artefact of the Internet is no more > >> bottom up, private, etc that the social relationships of trade and > >> property, whose governance continue to be done in democratic > >> fashions... Time we claimed democratic governance for the Internet as > >> well, and rubbish the post-democratic multistakeholderist ideas that > >> are so solidly taking root in this space, for which the IG civil > >> society will have to answer to history. > >> > >> Would anyone agree that the proposed global congress on IP and public > >> interest to be held in a 'multistakeholder' way, with equal space for > >> the big IP holders, as one always insists for an IG meeting... What > >> really is the difference, other than that the discourse in the IG > >> space has been captured by powerful forces before public interest > >> actors could assert themselves. Civil society in this area must help > >> in re-democraticing this area, and reclaiming 'public interest'. > >> > >> Meanwhile, my best wishes to the the organisers of this very > >> importanr congress. > >> > >> In fact some of us have been talking about holding a global congress > >> on 'Internet governance and public interest'. Happy to talk to those > >> who may be interested. > >> > >> parminder > >> > >> On Friday 15 May 2015 03:21 PM, Geetha Hariharan wrote: > >>> PFA the call for participation for the Global Congress on Intellectual > >>> Property and Public Interest. > >>> > >>> Apologies for cross-posting. Please do circulate to anyone you think > >>> might be interested. > >>> > >>> Best, > >>> Geetha. > >>> > >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >>> From: Swaraj Barooah > >>> Date: Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:05 PM > >>> Subject: Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual > >>> Property and the Public Interest, 2015 > >>> > >>> Dear all, > >>> > >>> We are pleased to announce the call for participation for the fourth > >>> edition of the Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public > >>> Interest ("Global Congress"). The theme for this year's Congress will be > >>> "Three Decades of Openness; Two Decades of TRIPS." We are now inviting > >>> applications to participate in the Congress, including session > >>> participation and presentations. We are also welcoming proposals for > >>> panels and workshops. > >>> > >>> The application form is available now at > >>> [http://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?] Please note that this > >>> form is for application purposes, and does not amount to confirmation of > >>> participation. The registrations for the plenary sessions, which are > >>> open to the public, will open closer to the date of the Global Congress. > >>> > >>> Deadlines > >>> > >>> August 1st: Priority Deadline for Applications- Applicants will be > >>> considered on a rolling basis, with applications made by August 1st > >>> being given first consideration. Applications after August 1st to > >>> receive travel assistance will be considered only under exceptional > >>> circumstances (these details will be collected in a subsequent form). > >>> > >>> November 1st: All applications for session participation and paper > >>> submissions will close on November 1st. > >>> > >>> Application Information > >>> > >>> For applications to participate/host: Applications to present or host > >>> workshops shall be considered based on the proposals to be submitted in > >>> the form. > >>> > >>> For applications to attend sessions:Applications to attend sessions as > >>> discussants will be considered based on the statement of purpose and/or > >>> any other relevant information provided by the applicant. > >>> > >>> Limited travel grants to cover accommodation and/or travel to the > >>> Congress will be available, with priority to those from developing > >>> countries. > >>> > >>> Background, Theme and Expected Outcomes > >>> > >>> The Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest is > >>> the most significant event on the calendar for scholars and policy > >>> advocates working on intellectual property from a public interest > >>> perspective. By sharing their research and strategies, the network of > >>> experts and activists supported by the Global Congress are empowered to > >>> put forward a positive agenda for policy reform. The Global Congress > >>> began in Washington D.C. in 2011, moved to Rio de Janeiro in 2012, and > >>> was held in Cape Town in 2013. The fourth Global Congress will now be > >>> held in New Delhi, in December 2015. The event would be the largest > >>> convening of public interest-oriented intellectual property > >>> practitioners ever held in Asia, and would help link in the world's most > >>> populous region to these global debates around how intellectual property > >>> policy can best serve the public interest. > >>> > >>> The fourth edition of the Global Congress, which brings research, civil > >>> society, industry and regulatory and policy-making communities together > >>> for active, intense engagement on key public-interest intellectual > >>> property issues. Opportunities for these groups to interact are rare but > >>> valuable; and have been proven to lead to successful policy outcomes. > >>> The 4thedition of the Congress, slated to be held in December, 2015 in > >>> New Delhi seeks to be one such opportunity. > >>> > >>> The theme for the 2015 Congress is Three Decades of Openness; Two > >>> Decades of TRIPS-coming at a pivotal time for reflection, revision, and > >>> further strategizing. Specifically, the 2015 Congress seeks to produce > >>> three outcomes- first, the mobilization of existing scholarly research > >>> directly into the hands of civil society advocates, business leaders and > >>> policy makers, leading to evidence-based policies and practices; > >>> second,the collaborative identification of urgent, global and local > >>> research priorities and generation of a joint research/advocacy agenda; > >>> and third, the solidification of an inter-disciplinary, cross-sector and > >>> global networked community of experts focused on public interest aspects > >>> of IP policy and practice. > >>> > >>> Participation Opportunities > >>> > >>> Discussions at the Global Congress will be carried out in the form of > >>> plenary sessions, thematic tracks, cross-track sessions, and the room of > >>> scholars. Participation is invited for the thematic track sessions, > >>> cross-track sessions and the room of scholars. > >>> > >>> The thematic tracks at the Global Congress are: 1) Openness, 2) Access > >>> to Medicines, 3) User Rights, 4) IP and Development. > >>> > >>> Cross-track sessions will feature research that cuts across tracks in > >>> order to facilitate engagement between tracks on themes of mutual > >>> interest. > >>> > >>> The Room of Scholars will feature presentations of research outputs such > >>> as draft works or white papers that may not fit directly within the > >>> thematic tracks but fall within the overall theme of the Global Congress > >>> . > >>> > >>> Participation could be in the form of presenting / discussing conference > >>> papers or policy briefs, or by conducting workshops where they may share > >>> their own work and solicit feedback from peers, during the > >>> aforementioned sessions. > >>> > >>> The application form for participation is available now > >>> athttp://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?. Please forward this > >>> invitation to interested lists and individuals. For more information or > >>> questions, you may contact globalcongress2015 at gmail.com > >>> . > >>> > >>> Organisation > >>> > >>> The Centre for Internet and Society serves as the > >>> convenor of the fourth Global Congress on Intellectual Property and > >>> Public Interest, carried out in cooperation withNational Law University, > >>> Delhi . > >>> > >>> The implementing partners arethe American > >>> Assembly at Columbia University in New > >>> York,Open A.I.R ., and theProgram on > >>> Information Justice and Intellectual Property at > >>> American University Washington College of Law in Washington DC. > >>> > >>> > >>> On behalf of the organizing committee, > >>> > >>> Swaraj Barooah > >>> > >>> Swaraj Paul Barooah > >>> Project Manager, "Global Congress" > >>> (Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest, 2015) > >>> > >>> Editor-in-Chief, SpicyIP.com > >>> Founder, Know-GAP > >>> Twitter: @swarajpb > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > ____________________________________________________________ > >> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > >> > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > >> > To be removed from the list, visit: > >> > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > >> > > >> > For all other list information and functions, see: > >> > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > >> > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > >> > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > >> > > >> > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > >> > >> > >> ____________________________________________________________ > >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net . > >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >Content-Disposition: inline > >____________________________________________________________ >You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > >For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > >Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From bkilic at citizen.org Tue May 19 21:12:50 2015 From: bkilic at citizen.org (Burcu Kilic) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 01:12:50 +0000 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: <555B7D35.2030303@apc.org> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> <555B3194.6020509@itforchange.net> <555B6A0A.7000504@eff.org> <555B7D35.2030303@apc.org> Message-ID: <3620AA8DD8446B49BBB11ACA23A413BB1DBFE83B@DAGN16b-e6.exg6.exghost.com> In addition to Anriette's comments, I have to say the Global Congress is a good venue to bring together the academics, activists and lawyers to exchange views, experiences, raise awareness and come up with strategies. As IP lawyers/academics/activists, we learned by experience that we had no role or whatsoever in making rules for IP. But this is changing now, the IP community is very well informed and organized, the policy makers cannot ignore us anymore. ACTA and the TPP are very good examples of this. I am very excited about this year's Congress and an opportunity to meet with Indian activists and academics whose hard work, enthusiasm and commitment help to make India as a prominent example of an IP regime that is well designed for developing countries. At the Congress, we will be discussing Internet-related issues, hence I do recommend everyone to take their time and share their substantive proposals and priorities with the organizers. I am sure they will somehow accommodate them. Hopefully, I see you all in India. Cheers, Burcu -----Original Message----- From: bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net [mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net] On Behalf Of Anriette Esterhuysen Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 4:13 AM To: Jeremy Malcolm; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net Subject: Re: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 Dear all I am writing against my better judgement, but here goes anyway. The Global Congress on IP has been one of the most important spaces were radical civil society has mobilised and strategised against some of the most problematic US-government lead initiatives with regard to impact on access to knowledge in recent years - ACTA and TPP. I have only ever been an observer at the Global Congress (when it was in Cape Town in 2013) but have always learnt a lot, and I really value the work that this community does in WIPO among other spaces. In Africa the Global Congress has collaborated with projects such as the African Access to Knowledge project.. people that we have done really important work with, and who have influenced intellectual property legislation positively. They work with groups such as councils for the blind and visually impaired, and the library community. People that we need in internet governance spaces if we want to build movement for social justice in internet governance. I find it extremely disappointing and distressing that the debate in this thread is not about substantial issues that the Global Congress will address, but about whether it is 'multistakeholder' or not - evolving into yet another set of assertions that everyone who supports the notion of multistakeholder in ANY sense at all is by definition coopted by empire. Why not write about substantive issues, and about how to pursue a social justice agenda around the issues that are internet-related that the Global Congress will address? Anriette On 19/05/2015 18:51, Jeremy Malcolm wrote: > On 19/05/2015 5:50 am, parminder wrote: >> Coming to the context of the series of congresses on 'Intellectual >> property and public interest', here is the list of participants >> > ut1.pdf>of the 2011 Congress . Just one big business participant - >> Google among scores and scores others. And none in program committee, >> or among the hosing group or funders (except one, again Google, which >> is certainly an oddity, perhaps explainable but wont go there right >> now) . No way to me this looks like a multistakeholder or MS >> conference, as we have come to understand the term in the Internet >> governance space. > > Apples and oranges; the Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest > never purported to be a multi-stakeholder event; it is closer to a > Best Bits meeting or your Internet Social Forum, both of which are > civil society only, than it is to something like the IGF. > > -- > Jeremy Malcolm > Senior Global Policy Analyst > Electronic Frontier Foundation > https://eff.org > jmalcolm at eff.org > > Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161 > > :: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World :: > > Public key: https://www.eff.org/files/2014/10/09/key_jmalcolm.txt > PGP fingerprint: FF13 C2E9 F9C3 DF54 7C4F EAC1 F675 AAE2 D2AB 2220 OTR > fingerprint: 26EE FD85 3740 8228 9460 49A8 536F BCD2 536F A5BD > > Learn how to encrypt your email with the Email Self Defense guide: > https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > From pileleji at ymca.gm Wed May 20 04:35:25 2015 From: pileleji at ymca.gm (Poncelet Ileleji) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 08:35:25 +0000 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: <555B7D35.2030303@apc.org> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> <555B3194.6020509@itforchange.net> <555B6A0A.7000504@eff.org> <555B7D35.2030303@apc.org> Message-ID: +++++1 Anriette well said indeed, Thanks alot Poncelet On 19 May 2015 at 18:13, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote: > Dear all > > I am writing against my better judgement, but here goes anyway. > > The Global Congress on IP has been one of the most important spaces were > radical civil society has mobilised and strategised against some of the > most problematic US-government lead initiatives with regard to impact on > access to knowledge in recent years - ACTA and TPP. > > I have only ever been an observer at the Global Congress (when it was in > Cape Town in 2013) but have always learnt a lot, and I really value the > work that this community does in WIPO among other spaces. In Africa the > Global Congress has collaborated with projects such as the African > Access to Knowledge project.. people that we have done really important > work with, and who have influenced intellectual property legislation > positively. They work with groups such as councils for the blind and > visually impaired, and the library community. People that we need in > internet governance spaces if we want to build movement for social > justice in internet governance. > > I find it extremely disappointing and distressing that the debate in > this thread is not about substantial issues that the Global Congress > will address, but about whether it is 'multistakeholder' or not - > evolving into yet another set of assertions that everyone who supports > the notion of multistakeholder in ANY sense at all is by definition > coopted by empire. > > Why not write about substantive issues, and about how to pursue a social > justice agenda around the issues that are internet-related that the > Global Congress will address? > > Anriette > > > > On 19/05/2015 18:51, Jeremy Malcolm wrote: > > On 19/05/2015 5:50 am, parminder wrote: > >> Coming to the context of the series of congresses on 'Intellectual > >> property and public interest', here is the list of participants > >> < > http://infojustice.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Participants-Handout1.pdf > >of > >> the 2011 Congress . Just one big business participant - Google among > >> scores and scores others. And none in program committee, or among the > >> hosing group or funders (except one, again Google, which is certainly > >> an oddity, perhaps explainable but wont go there right now) . No way > >> to me this looks like a multistakeholder or MS conference, as we have > >> come to understand the term in the Internet governance space. > > > > Apples and oranges; the Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest > > never purported to be a multi-stakeholder event; it is closer to a Best > > Bits meeting or your Internet Social Forum, both of which are civil > > society only, than it is to something like the IGF. > > > > -- > > Jeremy Malcolm > > Senior Global Policy Analyst > > Electronic Frontier Foundation > > https://eff.org > > jmalcolm at eff.org > > > > Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161 > > > > :: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World :: > > > > Public key: https://www.eff.org/files/2014/10/09/key_jmalcolm.txt > > PGP fingerprint: FF13 C2E9 F9C3 DF54 7C4F EAC1 F675 AAE2 D2AB 2220 > > OTR fingerprint: 26EE FD85 3740 8228 9460 49A8 536F BCD2 536F A5BD > > > > Learn how to encrypt your email with the Email Self Defense guide: > > https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > -- Poncelet O. 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URL: From nashton at consensus.pro Wed May 20 05:07:47 2015 From: nashton at consensus.pro (Nick Ashton-Hart) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 11:07:47 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> <555B3194.6020509@itforchange.net> <555B6A0A.7000504@eff.org> <555B7D35.2030303@apc.org> Message-ID: <9D821682-14F1-4222-B08B-9F64D8372DCA@consensus.pro> +1 from here too. I've only been to one of the Global Congresses and whilst some of the presentations seemed to me overly-academic / lecturing it is the focal point for non-industry intellectual property policy advocates to get together each year. Given the amount of change that's possible in IP norm-making in Europe, the US, and so many other places - change that CS has been demanding for years now being possible - it would be indescribably awful for even one tiny bit of that potential to be wasted through definitions of terms. The lives of real people and the future of knowledge access are the game. It seems to me that should be the laser-like focus of CS. IMO On 20 May 2015, at 10:35, Poncelet Ileleji wrote: > +++++1 Anriette well said indeed, > > Thanks alot > > Poncelet > > On 19 May 2015 at 18:13, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote: > Dear all > > I am writing against my better judgement, but here goes anyway. > > The Global Congress on IP has been one of the most important spaces were > radical civil society has mobilised and strategised against some of the > most problematic US-government lead initiatives with regard to impact on > access to knowledge in recent years - ACTA and TPP. > > I have only ever been an observer at the Global Congress (when it was in > Cape Town in 2013) but have always learnt a lot, and I really value the > work that this community does in WIPO among other spaces. In Africa the > Global Congress has collaborated with projects such as the African > Access to Knowledge project.. people that we have done really important > work with, and who have influenced intellectual property legislation > positively. They work with groups such as councils for the blind and > visually impaired, and the library community. People that we need in > internet governance spaces if we want to build movement for social > justice in internet governance. > > I find it extremely disappointing and distressing that the debate in > this thread is not about substantial issues that the Global Congress > will address, but about whether it is 'multistakeholder' or not - > evolving into yet another set of assertions that everyone who supports > the notion of multistakeholder in ANY sense at all is by definition > coopted by empire. > > Why not write about substantive issues, and about how to pursue a social > justice agenda around the issues that are internet-related that the > Global Congress will address? > > Anriette > > > > On 19/05/2015 18:51, Jeremy Malcolm wrote: > > On 19/05/2015 5:50 am, parminder wrote: > >> Coming to the context of the series of congresses on 'Intellectual > >> property and public interest', here is the list of participants > >> of > >> the 2011 Congress . Just one big business participant - Google among > >> scores and scores others. And none in program committee, or among the > >> hosing group or funders (except one, again Google, which is certainly > >> an oddity, perhaps explainable but wont go there right now) . No way > >> to me this looks like a multistakeholder or MS conference, as we have > >> come to understand the term in the Internet governance space. > > > > Apples and oranges; the Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest > > never purported to be a multi-stakeholder event; it is closer to a Best > > Bits meeting or your Internet Social Forum, both of which are civil > > society only, than it is to something like the IGF. > > > > -- > > Jeremy Malcolm > > Senior Global Policy Analyst > > Electronic Frontier Foundation > > https://eff.org > > jmalcolm at eff.org > > > > Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161 > > > > :: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World :: > > > > Public key: https://www.eff.org/files/2014/10/09/key_jmalcolm.txt > > PGP fingerprint: FF13 C2E9 F9C3 DF54 7C4F EAC1 F675 AAE2 D2AB 2220 > > OTR fingerprint: 26EE FD85 3740 8228 9460 49A8 536F BCD2 536F A5BD > > > > Learn how to encrypt your email with the Email Self Defense guide: > > https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > > -- > Poncelet O. 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Remember, it took them some time and polemic before we were able to add that 's' to http? /Brought to you by Mawaki's droid agent On May 5, 2015 6:39 PM, "Seth Johnson" wrote: > Yes, this is great progress. > > If all you've got is a dominant intranet (like a Comcast or Verizon > IncumbentNet) and no > ready access to the infrastructure to become a peer in the network > yourself, then you're not talking about a network of networks in the > first place. Facebook is taking advantage of an IncumbentNet enabling > environment to put across a huge con job. The whole zero rating thing > is stuck in that bogus frame. > > You're really close to the Internet Distinction line. :-) > > > Seth > > On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Josh Levy wrote: > > Thanks for sharing Seth. > > > > We're at a crossroads on this issue, and we have a real opportunity for > the > > global community of Net Neutrality advocates to make a strong, public > > statement of support for real Net Neutrality, and to push back against > > Zuckerberg's assertions. > > > > We're working on a draft of an open letter to Mark Zuckerberg right now - > > would others be interested in such a tactic? > > > > On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Seth Johnson > > wrote: > >> > >> Just gets a lot right: > >> > >> Facebook's Internet.org Isn't the Internet, It's Facebooknet > >> http://www.wired.com/2015/05/opinion-internet-org-facebooknet/ > >> > >> > >> Seth > >> > >> ____________________________________________________________ > >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Josh Levy > > Advocacy Director > > Access | accessnow.org > > > > tel: + 1 917 609 6523 | @levjoy > > PGP: 0x84C9F275 > > Fingerprint: B56A D510 3142 2364 69C7 3961 A0A3 67A5 84C9 F275 > > > > Join the Access team - we're hiring! > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anriette at apc.org Wed May 20 06:05:30 2015 From: anriette at apc.org (Anriette Esterhuysen) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 12:05:30 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <55595C42.9050706@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <555C5C6A.5020606@apc.org> Dear all It is really good to see the reference to the APC.glossary. So happy that people are still using it. We developed it a long time ago when ICT terms were still evolving. The definition of the term 'multi-stakeholder' dates back to around 2004/5 when we were doing work at national level to facilitate collaboration around access to infrastructure, and also when we produced a guide to organising national WSIS consultations. So it reflects our history in working in a multi-stakeholder way on ICT for development issues at national level. I will ask the APC team to consider if the definition for multi-stakeholder needs to change. How do others feel? And on definition of public interest... good to point out that we don't have that in our glossary. We should add it. It generally has different meanings for different people and in different countries, for lawyers, for activists, but we use it a lot in APC and therefore we should add it to our glossary. Anriette APC glossary entry on 'multi-stakeholder' A very broad term that describes groupings of civil society, the private sector, the public sector, the media and other stakeholders that come together for a common purpose. It is often used with words like “partnership” and “consultation”. In multi-stakeholder partnerships the partners have a shared understanding that they play different roles and have different purposes, but that they can pursue collective goals through collaboration and common activities to achieve such goals. These partnerships are voluntary, with participation driven by the perceived benefits they may see emerging from the process. Such partnerships are increasingly being used to challenge and lobby for change in policy processes. Style information: APC uses multi-stakeholder with a hyphen between “multi” and “stakeholder”. On 18/05/2015 05:45, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote: > Parminder, > > I did not just rely on Wikipedia. (That would be another n of 1.) > > My point was to reply to the question: Does "multistakeholder" now have > a stable definition? > >>The first entry is a Wiki where Norbert Bellow is quoted and where he > distinguishes between types even. >>The second entry is a glossary entry from APC. >>The third entry is an ICANNWiki entry. > > There is another common factor in the APC and the ICANNWiki entries: > there is no glossary entry for public interest in either of them. > > I leave you to interpret what that means. > > Regards, > Peng Hwa > > From: Parminder Singh > > Date: Monday, 18 May 2015 11:28 am > To: Ang Peng Hwa >, > Williams Deirde >, Internet Governance > > > Cc: BestBitsList >, "Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org" > > > Subject: Re: [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on > Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 > > Peng Hwa > > Since you seem to rely on wikipedia, before declaring that although > 'everyone knows what knows what multi stakeholder is' 'public interest > is a problematic concept' (both direct quotes from your email) did you > look up 'public interest' in wikipedia? Well, here it is > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_interest > > A comparative assessment of the two entries in wikipedia - respectively > on MSism (multistakeholderism) and public interest - would make clear > which one is clearer and less contested term. > > Which in turn clearly proves that an assertion in favour of 'clarity' of > the MS term with respect to the 'public interest' term is not based on > any kind of facts or on existing body of civilisational knoweldge . It > is merely ideological, which was my prior point. And the fact that a > regional IGF process takes such a bias as a given - and does not correct > itself even when the 'error' is pointed out - makes a important > political point, which is the political point that I have been trying to > make.. > > parminder > > On Monday 18 May 2015 06:45 AM, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote: >> Deirdre, >> >> Google >> multistakeholder.https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=multistakeholder&oq=multistakeholder&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l3j69i65l2.2580j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=119&ie=UTF-8 >> >> The first entry is a Wiki where Norbert Bellow is quoted and where he >> distinguishes between types even. >> >> The second entry is a glossary entry from APC. >> >> The third entry is an ICANNWiki entry. >> >> Like many words, there is a “core” meaning and moving beyond that, >> more than 50 shades of greying that keeps academics employed. >> >> Regards, >> Ang Peng Hwa >> >> From: Williams Deirde > > >> Date: Monday, 18 May 2015 2:04 am >> To: Internet Governance > >, Ang Peng Hwa >> > >> Cc: Parminder Singh > >, BestBitsList >> >, >> "Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org" > > >> Subject: Re: [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on >> Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 >> >> "Everyone knows what multistakeholder is. That’s easy." >> >> Respectfully, (I'm making a comment/asking for clarification, not >> trying to pick a quarrel), I have the impression that the problem is >> that everyone /doesn't/ know, or rather that everyone doesn't agree. >> "Multistakeholder" seems to me to have become a "Humpty Dumpty" word - >> 'When *I* use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, >> 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.' >> (from Alice Through the Looking Glass/Lewis Carroll >> /http://sabian.org/looking_glass6.php) >> I've begun to record, for my own benefit, when how and where the term >> is used, and to notice those contexts in which it is not used. >> Does "multistakeholder" now have a stable definition? Does >> "multistakeholderism"? >> Best wishes >> Deirdre >> >> On 17 May 2015 at 11:13, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) > > wrote: >> >> >> >So, in fact, indeed the dominant groups involved with the IGF process do seem to think that 'public interest' is a problematic concept, and the idea of 'multistakeholder perspective' or interest is a positive political evolution over it! >> >> What a curious (mis)reading. >> >> First of all, I do not see how the APrIGF can be representative of >> “dominant groups”. We are, at best/worst an n of 1. Nah, I would >> not want to be one of the MASTERS of the UNIVERSE. >> >> Second, it is precisely because public interest is a problematic >> concept that the APrIGF is not using that notion. We have no time >> to discuss it before we roll out the meeting. Everyone knows what >> multistakeholder is. That’s easy. But public interest—we could >> discuss it as a panel if you wish. >> >> It would of course have to be next year. >> >> But if I say that it is next year, it is because of the deadline. >> Not because, once again, that public interest is not a problematic >> conception. >> >> Regards, >> Peng Hwa >> >> From: Parminder Singh > > >> Reply-To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> " >> > >, Parminder Singh >> > >> Date: Sunday, 17 May 2015 9:46 pm >> To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> " >> > >, BestBitsList >> > >, "Forum at Justnetcoalition. >> Org" > >> Subject: Re: [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress >> on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 >> >> Interesting theme of this series of global congresses: >> 'Intellectual Property and the Public Interest' ! >> >> Wonder if you ever thought of calling it "IP and the >> multistakeholder Interest' ? >> >> You all have have seen the discussion I recently had with Peng >> Hwa, head of the AP regional IGF process for many years, who >> strongly argued that public interest perspective is a very unclear >> concept but multistakeholder perspective or interest is much >> easier to establish. >> >> The discussion started when I objected to the call for workshops >> for the AP regional IGF which was categorical that every workshop >> proposal must incorporate a 'multistakeholder perspective'. I >> suggested that it be replaced by 'public interest'. This >> suggestion was not accepted. So, in fact, indeed the dominant >> groups involved with the IGF process do seem to think that 'public >> interest' is a problematic concept, and the idea of >> 'multistakeholder perspective' or interest is a positive political >> evolution over it! >> >> Friends, these are serious post-democratic developments to which, >> it is my duty of observe, most of the civil society involved in IG >> area are either a silent or active accomplices. >> >> Meanwhile, of course, I wait for arguments that Internet ( unlike >> intellectual property!?) is a bottom up , private, etc etc, thing, >> and therefore its governance has to be different.... Well, lets >> admit it, such an arugment really does not hold unless we are >> intent to be misled by it - the social artefact of the Internet is >> no more bottom up, private, etc that the social relationships of >> trade and property, whose governance continue to be done in >> democratic fashions... Time we claimed democratic governance for >> the Internet as well, and rubbish the post-democratic >> multistakeholderist ideas that are so solidly taking root in this >> space, for which the IG civil society will have to answer to history. >> >> Would anyone agree that the proposed global congress on IP and >> public interest to be held in a 'multistakeholder' way, with equal >> space for the big IP holders, as one always insists for an IG >> meeting... What really is the difference, other than that the >> discourse in the IG space has been captured by powerful forces >> before public interest actors could assert themselves. Civil >> society in this area must help in re-democraticing this area, and >> reclaiming 'public interest'. >> >> Meanwhile, my best wishes to the the organisers of this very >> importanr congress. >> >> In fact some of us have been talking about holding a global >> congress on 'Internet governance and public interest'. Happy to >> talk to those who may be interested. >> >> parminder >> >> On Friday 15 May 2015 03:21 PM, Geetha Hariharan wrote: >>> PFA the call for participation for the Global Congress on >>> Intellectual >>> Property and Public Interest. >>> >>> Apologies for cross-posting. Please do circulate to anyone you think >>> might be interested. >>> >>> Best, >>> Geetha. >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Swaraj Barooah >>> Date: Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:05 PM >>> Subject: Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual >>> Property and the Public Interest, 2015 >>> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> We are pleased to announce the call for participation for the fourth >>> edition of the Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the >>> Public >>> Interest (“Global Congress”). The theme for this year’s Congress >>> will be >>> “Three Decades of Openness; Two Decades of TRIPS.” We are now >>> inviting >>> applications to participate in the Congress, including session >>> participation and presentations. We are also welcoming proposals for >>> panels and workshops. >>> >>> The application form is available now at >>> [http://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?] Please note >>> that this >>> form is for application purposes, and does not amount to >>> confirmation of >>> participation. The registrations for the plenary sessions, which are >>> open to the public, will open closer to the date of the Global >>> Congress. >>> >>> Deadlines >>> >>> August 1st: Priority Deadline for Applications- Applicants will be >>> considered on a rolling basis, with applications made by August 1st >>> being given first consideration. Applications after August 1st to >>> receive travel assistance will be considered only under exceptional >>> circumstances (these details will be collected in a subsequent form). >>> >>> November 1st: All applications for session participation and paper >>> submissions will close on November 1st. >>> >>> Application Information >>> >>> For applications to participate/host: Applications to present or host >>> workshops shall be considered based on the proposals to be >>> submitted in >>> the form. >>> >>> For applications to attend sessions:Applications to attend >>> sessions as >>> discussants will be considered based on the statement of purpose >>> and/or >>> any other relevant information provided by the applicant. >>> >>> Limited travel grants to cover accommodation and/or travel to the >>> Congress will be available, with priority to those from developing >>> countries. >>> >>> Background, Theme and Expected Outcomes >>> >>> The Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public >>> Interest is >>> the most significant event on the calendar for scholars and policy >>> advocates working on intellectual property from a public interest >>> perspective. By sharing their research and strategies, the network of >>> experts and activists supported by the Global Congress are >>> empowered to >>> put forward a positive agenda for policy reform. The Global Congress >>> began in Washington D.C. in 2011, moved to Rio de Janeiro in >>> 2012, and >>> was held in Cape Town in 2013. The fourth Global Congress will now be >>> held in New Delhi, in December 2015. The event would be the largest >>> convening of public interest-oriented intellectual property >>> practitioners ever held in Asia, and would help link in the >>> world's most >>> populous region to these global debates around how intellectual >>> property >>> policy can best serve the public interest. >>> >>> The fourth edition of the Global Congress, which brings research, >>> civil >>> society, industry and regulatory and policy-making communities >>> together >>> for active, intense engagement on key public-interest intellectual >>> property issues. Opportunities for these groups to interact are >>> rare but >>> valuable; and have been proven to lead to successful policy outcomes. >>> The 4thedition of the Congress, slated to be held in December, >>> 2015 in >>> New Delhi seeks to be one such opportunity. >>> >>> The theme for the 2015 Congress is Three Decades of Openness; Two >>> Decades of TRIPS-coming at a pivotal time for reflection, >>> revision, and >>> further strategizing. Specifically, the 2015 Congress seeks to >>> produce >>> three outcomes- first, the mobilization of existing scholarly >>> research >>> directly into the hands of civil society advocates, business >>> leaders and >>> policy makers, leading to evidence-based policies and practices; >>> second,the collaborative identification of urgent, global and local >>> research priorities and generation of a joint research/advocacy >>> agenda; >>> and third, the solidification of an inter-disciplinary, >>> cross-sector and >>> global networked community of experts focused on public interest >>> aspects >>> of IP policy and practice. >>> >>> Participation Opportunities >>> >>> Discussions at the Global Congress will be carried out in the form of >>> plenary sessions, thematic tracks, cross-track sessions, and the >>> room of >>> scholars. Participation is invited for the thematic track sessions, >>> cross-track sessions and the room of scholars. >>> >>> The thematic tracks at the Global Congress are: 1) Openness, 2) >>> Access >>> to Medicines, 3) User Rights, 4) IP and Development. >>> >>> Cross-track sessions will feature research that cuts across tracks in >>> order to facilitate engagement between tracks on themes of mutual >>> interest. >>> >>> The Room of Scholars will feature presentations of research >>> outputs such >>> as draft works or white papers that may not fit directly within the >>> thematic tracks but fall within the overall theme of the Global >>> Congress >>> . >>> >>> Participation could be in the form of presenting / discussing >>> conference >>> papers or policy briefs, or by conducting workshops where they >>> may share >>> their own work and solicit feedback from peers, during the >>> aforementioned sessions. >>> >>> The application form for participation is available now >>> athttp://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?. Please forward >>> this >>> invitation to interested lists and individuals. For more >>> information or >>> questions, you may contact globalcongress2015 at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> . >>> >>> Organisation >>> >>> The Centre for Internet and Society >>> serves as the >>> convenor of the fourth Global Congress on Intellectual Property and >>> Public Interest, carried out in cooperation withNational Law >>> University, >>> Delhi . >>> >>> The implementing partners arethe >>> American >>> Assembly >>> at Columbia University in New >>> York,Open A.I.R >>> ., and theProgram on >>> Information Justice and Intellectual Property >>> at >>> American University Washington College of Law in Washington DC. >>> >>> >>> On behalf of the organizing committee, >>> >>> Swaraj Barooah >>> >>> Swaraj Paul Barooah >>> Project Manager, "Global Congress" >>> (Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest, 2015) >>> >>> Editor-in-Chief, SpicyIP.com >>> >>> Founder, Know-GAP >>> Twitter: @swarajpb >>> >> > >> > >> > ____________________________________________________________ >> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> > To be removed from the list, visit: >> > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> > >> > For all other list information and functions, see: >> > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> > http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> > >> > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> >> SG50 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> CONFIDENTIALITY: This email is intended solely for the person(s) >> named and may be confidential and/or privileged. 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Thank you. >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> >> >> >> -- >> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir >> William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > From anriette at apc.org Wed May 20 10:41:23 2015 From: anriette at apc.org (Anriette Esterhuysen) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 16:41:23 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] Public interest and multi-stakeholder participation, was Re: [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress .. In-Reply-To: <307713677.20109.1432127727119.JavaMail.www@wwinf1m20> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <55595C42.9050706@itforchange.net> <555C5C6A.5020606@apc.org> <307713677.20109.1432127727119.JavaMail.www@wwinf1m20> Message-ID: <555C9D13.7030803@apc.org> Dear Jean-Louis I don't personally use the 'equal footing' term. Configuration of participation depends on the issue being discussed and accountability involved. The term equal footing creates unnecessary confusion and can be interpreted as saying that government and public sector actors don't have an important role or specific responsibilities. It can also be abused. If one is developing a national action plan on local content creation having all different stakeholders involved 'equally' would be good, but I would want to see particularly strong participation of people from libraries, arts and culture and education ministries, content and creative industries and so on. I would like to see large entertainment companies, but also small independent producers and film makers, writers and artists and people from cultural minorities. I would be concerned if government or big business had a louder voice in this discussion than other stakeholders, as that might end up silencing some voices, and reducing diversity of views. But that does not mean that we don't need to hear from government, or from big business. Although I would hope they use the opportunity to listen, not just speak. If it is a decision about how to tax global internet companies they should have a voice in the pre-policy consultation process, but they should not be making the decision. That is a decision that needs to be made - transparently - by governments and intergovernmental institutions. I would like civil society to be involved in this and I would like public-interest economists to give input, and for the media to be present so that we have more transparency. And I would like the tax collection agencies to speak too.... as they know whether compliance is likely to take place or not. On public interest.. for me the power of this concept is that it opens a debate. It forces a discussion on what the broadest possible public interest is. Just having a room full of different stakeholders will bring you diversity, but they might just all talk about what it is matters most to them as interest or stakeholder groups. So governments might talk about national security, operators about intermediary liability, civil society about freedom of expression... ...but if the obligation of the discussion is to serve the broadest possible public interest they must all make the case of WHY the position they are advocating for will serve that interest, and state how they understand the public interest. And one should not make assumptions about who will argue for what. E.g in some countries at present, small private sector content producers are much more concerned with having a publicly funded public broadcaster than government is. To assume that governments are in all cases the most reliable custodians of the 'public interest' is wishful thinking. Perhaps I am being naive, but in my view having a public-interest orientation makes a big difference. And that is why I was so pleased when the NETmundial statement said that internet governance should be in the public interest. It defines a common purpose, and a common measure - even if there will still be different views of what serves the public interest best. I often say to telecom regulators - am actually in an event with African regulators this minute - that their role is not primarily to balance interests among operators - their role is to protect and promote the interest of users/consumers/the public. Jean-Louis, I will not be in Geneva, but from APC there will be Shawna Finnegan from APC staff for part of it, and Aida Mahmutovic who is on APC's member council, representing our member in Bosnia-Herzegovina. Warm greetings Anriette On 20/05/2015 15:15, Jean-Louis FULLSACK wrote: > Dear Anriette > > > > Public interest " generally has different >> meanings for different people and in different countries, for lawyers, >> for activists" > > > > Don't the same remarks/restrictions apply to Multistakeholderism ? Do > you see e.g. Burkina Faso government on "equal footing" with Google or > other GAFA-like enterprises ? Not to mention BF Civil society orgs ? > > > > Best > > > > Jean-Louis Fullsack > > > > PS : BTW will you and/or APC take part in the next week WSIS Forum at > Geneva ? > > > > > > > > > > > Message du 20/05/15 12:05 > > De : "Anriette Esterhuysen" > > A : "Internet Governance" > > Copie à : "BestBitsList" , > "Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org" , "APC ICT > policy advocacy" , "lori at apc.org" > > > Objet : Re: [governance] [bestbits] Call for Participation: Global > Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 > > > > Dear all > > > > It is really good to see the reference to the APC.glossary. So happy > > that people are still using it. We developed it a long time ago > when ICT > > terms were still evolving. > > > > The definition of the term 'multi-stakeholder' dates back to around > > 2004/5 when we were doing work at national level to facilitate > > collaboration around access to infrastructure, and also when we > produced > > a guide to organising national WSIS consultations. So it reflects our > > history in working in a multi-stakeholder way on ICT for development > > issues at national level. > > > > I will ask the APC team to consider if the definition for > > multi-stakeholder needs to change. How do others feel? > > > > And on definition of public interest... good to point out that we > don't > > have that in our glossary. We should add it. Public good , but we > use it a lot in APC and therefore we should add it > > to our glossary. > > > > Anriette > > > > APC glossary entry on 'multi-stakeholder' > > > > A very broad term that describes groupings of civil society, the > private > > sector, the public sector, the media and other stakeholders that come > > together for a common purpose. It is often used with words like > > “partnership” and “consultation”. In multi-stakeholder > partnerships the > > partners have a shared understanding that they play different > roles and > > have different purposes, but that they can pursue > > collective goals through collaboration and common activities to > achieve > > such goals. These partnerships are voluntary, with participation > driven > > by the perceived benefits they may see emerging from the process. Such > > partnerships are increasingly being used to challenge and lobby for > > change in policy processes. > > > > Style information: APC uses multi-stakeholder with a hyphen between > > “multi” and “stakeholder”. > > > > > > > > On 18/05/2015 05:45, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote: > > > Parminder, > > > > > > I did not just rely on Wikipedia. (That would be another n of 1.) > > > > > > My point was to reply to the question: Does "multistakeholder" > now have > > > a stable definition? > > > > > >>The first entry is a Wiki where Norbert Bellow is quoted and > where he > > > distinguishes between types even. > > >>The second entry is a glossary entry from APC. > > >>The third entry is an ICANNWiki entry. > > > > > > There is another common factor in the APC and the ICANNWiki entries: > > > there is no glossary entry for public interest in either of them. > > > > > > I leave you to interpret what that means. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Peng Hwa > > > > > > From: Parminder Singh > > > > > > Date: Monday, 18 May 2015 11:28 am > > > To: Ang Peng Hwa >, > > > Williams Deirde > > >, Internet Governance > > > > > > > Cc: BestBitsList > > >, "Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org" > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on > > > Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 > > > > > > Peng Hwa > > > > > > Since you seem to rely on wikipedia, before declaring that although > > > 'everyone knows what knows what multi stakeholder is' 'public > interest > > > is a problematic concept' (both direct quotes from your email) > did you > > > look up 'public interest' in wikipedia? Well, here it is > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_interest > > > > > > A comparative assessment of the two entries in wikipedia - > respectively > > > on MSism (multistakeholderism) and public interest - would make > clear > > > which one is clearer and less contested term. > > > > > > Which in turn clearly proves that an assertion in favour of > 'clarity' of > > > the MS term with respect to the 'public interest' term is not > based on > > > any kind of facts or on existing body of civilisational > knoweldge . It > > > is merely ideological, which was my prior point. And the fact that a > > > regional IGF process takes such a bias as a given - and does not > correct > > > itself even when the 'error' is pointed out - makes a important > > > political point, which is the political point that I have been > trying to > > > make.. > > > > > > parminder > > > > > > On Monday 18 May 2015 06:45 AM, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote: > > >> Deirdre, > > >> > > >> Google > > >> > multistakeholder.https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=multistakeholder&oq=multistakeholder&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l3j69i65l2.2580j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=119&ie=UTF-8 > > >> > > >> The first entry is a Wiki where Norbert Bellow is quoted and > where he > > >> distinguishes between types even. > > >> > > >> The second entry is a glossary entry from APC. > > >> > > >> The third entry is an ICANNWiki entry. > > >> > > >> Like many words, there is a “core” meaning and moving beyond that, > > >> more than 50 shades of greying that keeps academics employed. > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> Ang Peng Hwa > > >> > > >> From: Williams Deirde > >> > > > >> Date: Monday, 18 May 2015 2:04 am > > >> To: Internet Governance > >> >, Ang Peng Hwa > > >> > > > >> Cc: Parminder Singh > >> >, BestBitsList > > >> >, > > >> "Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org" > >> > > > >> Subject: Re: [governance] Call for Participation: Global > Congress on > > >> Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 > > >> > > >> "Everyone knows what multistakeholder is. That’s easy." > > >> > > >> Respectfully, (I'm making a comment/asking for clarification, not > > >> trying to pick a quarrel), I have the impression that the > problem is > > >> that everyone /doesn't/ know, or rather that everyone doesn't > agree. > > >> "Multistakeholder" seems to me to have become a "Humpty Dumpty" > word - > > >> 'When *I* use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful > tone, > > >> 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.' > > >> (from Alice Through the Looking Glass/Lewis Carroll > > >> /http://sabian.org/looking_glass6.php) > > >> I've begun to record, for my own benefit, when how and where > the term > > >> is used, and to notice those contexts in which it is not used. > > >> Does "multistakeholder" now have a stable definition? Does > > >> "multistakeholderism"? > > >> Best wishes > > >> Deirdre > > >> > > >> On 17 May 2015 at 11:13, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) > >> > wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> >So, in fact, indeed the dominant groups involved with the IGF > process do seem to think that 'public interest' is a problematic > concept, and the idea of 'multistakeholder perspective' or interest > is a positive political evolution over it! > > >> > > >> What a curious (mis)reading. > > >> > > >> First of all, I do not see how the APrIGF can be representative of > > >> “dominant groups”. We are, at best/worst an n of 1. Nah, I would > > >> not want to be one of the MASTERS of the UNIVERSE. > > >> > > >> Second, it is precisely because public interest is a problematic > > >> concept that the APrIGF is not using that notion. We have no time > > >> to discuss it before we roll out the meeting. Everyone knows what > > >> multistakeholder is. That’s easy. But public interest—we could > > >> discuss it as a panel if you wish. > > >> > > >> It would of course have to be next year. > > >> > > >> But if I say that it is next year, it is because of the deadline. > > >> Not because, once again, that public interest is not a problematic > > >> conception. > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> Peng Hwa > > >> > > >> From: Parminder Singh > >> > > > >> Reply-To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > >> " > > >> > >> >, Parminder Singh > > >> > > > >> Date: Sunday, 17 May 2015 9:46 pm > > >> To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > >> " > > >> > >> >, BestBitsList > > >> > >> >, "Forum at Justnetcoalition. > > >> Org" > > > >> Subject: Re: [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress > > >> on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 > > >> > > >> Interesting theme of this series of global congresses: > > >> 'Intellectual Property and the Public Interest' ! > > >> > > >> Wonder if you ever thought of calling it "IP and the > > >> multistakeholder Interest' ? > > >> > > >> You all have have seen the discussion I recently had with Peng > > >> Hwa, head of the AP regional IGF process for many years, who > > >> strongly argued that public interest perspective is a very unclear > > >> concept but multistakeholder perspective or interest is much > > >> easier to establish. > > >> > > >> The discussion started when I objected to the call for workshops > > >> for the AP regional IGF which was categorical that every workshop > > >> proposal must incorporate a 'multistakeholder perspective'. I > > >> suggested that it be replaced by 'public interest'. This > > >> suggestion was not accepted. So, in fact, indeed the dominant > > >> groups involved with the IGF process do seem to think that 'public > > >> interest' is a problematic concept, and the idea of > > >> 'multistakeholder perspective' or interest is a positive political > > >> evolution over it! > > >> > > >> Friends, these are serious post-democratic developments to which, > > >> it is my duty of observe, most of the civil society involved in IG > > >> area are either a silent or active accomplices. > > >> > > >> Meanwhile, of course, I wait for arguments that Internet ( unlike > > >> intellectual property!?) is a bottom up , private, etc etc, thing, > > >> and therefore its governance has to be different.... Well, lets > > >> admit it, such an arugment really does not hold unless we are > > >> intent to be misled by it - the social artefact of the Internet is > > >> no more bottom up, private, etc that the social relationships of > > >> trade and property, whose governance continue to be done in > > >> democratic fashions... Time we claimed democratic governance for > > >> the Internet as well, and rubbish the post-democratic > > >> multistakeholderist ideas that are so solidly taking root in this > > >> space, for which the IG civil society will have to answer to > history. > > >> > > >> Would anyone agree that the proposed global congress on IP and > > >> public interest to be held in a 'multistakeholder' way, with equal > > >> space for the big IP holders, as one always insists for an IG > > >> meeting... What really is the difference, other than that the > > >> discourse in the IG space has been captured by powerful forces > > >> before public interest actors could assert themselves. Civil > > >> society in this area must help in re-democraticing this area, and > > >> reclaiming 'public interest'. > > >> > > >> Meanwhile, my best wishes to the the organisers of this very > > >> importanr congress. > > >> > > >> In fact some of us have been talking about holding a global > > >> congress on 'Internet governance and public interest'. Happy to > > >> talk to those who may be interested. > > >> > > >> parminder > > >> > > >> On Friday 15 May 2015 03:21 PM, Geetha Hariharan wrote: > > >>> PFA the call for participation for the Global Congress on > > >>> Intellectual > > >>> Property and Public Interest. > > >>> > > >>> Apologies for cross-posting. Please do circulate to anyone you > think > > >>> might be interested. > > >>> > > >>> Best, > > >>> Geetha. > > >>> > > >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > >>> From: Swaraj Barooah > > >>> Date: Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:05 PM > > >>> Subject: Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual > > >>> Property and the Public Interest, 2015 > > >>> > > >>> Dear all, > > >>> > > >>> We are pleased to announce the call for participation for the > fourth > > >>> edition of the Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the > > >>> Public > > >>> Interest (“Global Congress”). The theme for this year’s Congress > > >>> will be > > >>> “Three Decades of Openness; Two Decades of TRIPS.” We are now > > >>> inviting > > >>> applications to participate in the Congress, including session > > >>> participation and presentations. We are also welcoming > proposals for > > >>> panels and workshops. > > >>> > > >>> The application form is available now at > > >>> [http://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?] Please note > > >>> that this > > >>> form is for application purposes, and does not amount to > > >>> confirmation of > > >>> participation. The registrations for the plenary sessions, > which are > > >>> open to the public, will open closer to the date of the Global > > >>> Congress. > > >>> > > >>> Deadlines > > >>> > > >>> August 1st: Priority Deadline for Applications- Applicants will be > > >>> considered on a rolling basis, with applications made by > August 1st > > >>> being given first consideration. Applications after August 1st to > > >>> receive travel assistance will be considered only under > exceptional > > >>> circumstances (these details will be collected in a subsequent > form). > > >>> > > >>> November 1st: All applications for session participation and paper > > >>> submissions will close on November 1st. > > >>> > > >>> Application Information > > >>> > > >>> For applications to participate/host: Applications to present > or host > > >>> workshops shall be considered based on the proposals to be > > >>> submitted in > > >>> the form. > > >>> > > >>> For applications to attend sessions:Applications to attend > > >>> sessions as > > >>> discussants will be considered based on the statement of purpose > > >>> and/or > > >>> any other relevant information provided by the applicant. > > >>> > > >>> Limited travel grants to cover accommodation and/or travel to the > > >>> Congress will be available, with priority to those from developing > > >>> countries. > > >>> > > >>> Background, Theme and Expected Outcomes > > >>> > > >>> The Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public > > >>> Interest is > > >>> the most significant event on the calendar for scholars and policy > > >>> advocates working on intellectual property from a public interest > > >>> perspective. By sharing their research and strategies, the > network of > > >>> experts and activists supported by the Global Congress are > > >>> empowered to > > >>> put forward a positive agenda for policy reform. The Global > Congress > > >>> began in Washington D.C. in 2011, moved to Rio de Janeiro in > > >>> 2012, and > > >>> was held in Cape Town in 2013. The fourth Global Congress will > now be > > >>> held in New Delhi, in December 2015. The event would be the > largest > > >>> convening of public interest-oriented intellectual property > > >>> practitioners ever held in Asia, and would help link in the > > >>> world's most > > >>> populous region to these global debates around how intellectual > > >>> property > > >>> policy can best serve the public interest. > > >>> > > >>> The fourth edition of the Global Congress, which brings research, > > >>> civil > > >>> society, industry and regulatory and policy-making communities > > >>> together > > >>> for active, intense engagement on key public-interest intellectual > > >>> property issues. Opportunities for these groups to interact are > > >>> rare but > > >>> valuable; and have been proven to lead to successful policy > outcomes. > > >>> The 4thedition of the Congress, slated to be held in December, > > >>> 2015 in > > >>> New Delhi seeks to be one such opportunity. > > >>> > > >>> The theme for the 2015 Congress is Three Decades of Openness; Two > > >>> Decades of TRIPS-coming at a pivotal time for reflection, > > >>> revision, and > > >>> further strategizing. Specifically, the 2015 Congress seeks to > > >>> produce > > >>> three outcomes- first, the mobilization of existing scholarly > > >>> research > > >>> directly into the hands of civil society advocates, business > > >>> leaders and > > >>> policy makers, leading to evidence-based policies and practices; > > >>> second,the collaborative identification of urgent, global and > local > > >>> research priorities and generation of a joint research/advocacy > > >>> agenda; > > >>> and third, the solidification of an inter-disciplinary, > > >>> cross-sector and > > >>> global networked community of experts focused on public interest > > >>> aspects > > >>> of IP policy and practice. > > >>> > > >>> Participation Opportunities > > >>> > > >>> Discussions at the Global Congress will be carried out in the > form of > > >>> plenary sessions, thematic tracks, cross-track sessions, and the > > >>> room of > > >>> scholars. Participation is invited for the thematic track > sessions, > > >>> cross-track sessions and the room of scholars. > > >>> > > >>> The thematic tracks at the Global Congress are: 1) Openness, 2) > > >>> Access > > >>> to Medicines, 3) User Rights, 4) IP and Development. > > >>> > > >>> Cross-track sessions will feature research that cuts across > tracks in > > >>> order to facilitate engagement between tracks on themes of mutual > > >>> interest. > > >>> > > >>> The Room of Scholars will feature presentations of research > > >>> outputs such > > >>> as draft works or white papers that may not fit directly > within the > > >>> thematic tracks but fall within the overall theme of the Global > > >>> Congress > > >>> . > > >>> > > >>> Participation could be in the form of presenting / discussing > > >>> conference > > >>> papers or policy briefs, or by conducting workshops where they > > >>> may share > > >>> their own work and solicit feedback from peers, during the > > >>> aforementioned sessions. > > >>> > > >>> The application form for participation is available now > > >>> athttp://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?. Please forward > > >>> this > > >>> invitation to interested lists and individuals. For more > > >>> information or > > >>> questions, you may contact globalcongress2015 at gmail.com > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> . > > >>> > > >>> Organisation > > >>> > > >>> The Centre for Internet and Society > > >>> serves as the > > >>> convenor of the fourth Global Congress on Intellectual > Property and > > >>> Public Interest, carried out in cooperation withNational Law > > >>> University, > > >>> Delhi . > > >>> > > >>> The implementing partners arethe > > >>> American > > >>> Assembly > > >>> at Columbia University in New > > >>> York,Open A.I.R > > >>> ., and theProgram on > > >>> Information Justice and Intellectual Property > > >>> at > > >>> American University Washington College of Law in Washington DC. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On behalf of the organizing committee, > > >>> > > >>> Swaraj Barooah > > >>> > > >>> Swaraj Paul Barooah > > >>> Project Manager, "Global Congress" > > >>> (Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest, 2015) > > >>> > > >>> Editor-in-Chief, SpicyIP.com > > >>> > > >>> Founder, Know-GAP > > >>> Twitter: @swarajpb > > >>> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > ____________________________________________________________ > > >> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > >> > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > > >> > To be removed from the list, visit: > > >> > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > >> > > > >> > For all other list information and functions, see: > > >> > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > >> > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > >> > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > >> > > > >> > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > >> > > >> > > >> SG50 > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >> CONFIDENTIALITY: This email is intended solely for the person(s) > > >> named and may be confidential and/or privileged. 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Thank you. > > >> > > >> ____________________________________________________________ > > >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > >> > > >> To be removed from the list, visit: > > >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > >> > > >> For all other list information and functions, see: > > >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > >> > > >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir > > >> William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > > > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > > > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > To be removed from the list, visit: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > From dave at difference.com.au Wed May 20 11:56:24 2015 From: dave at difference.com.au (David Cake) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 17:56:24 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Why? In-Reply-To: References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> <555B3194.6020509@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <956C43B7-D951-4674-8926-B26D2438A3A6@difference.com.au> Dear JFC, As a general observation, your enthusiasm for wordplay, neologisms and new inventive acronyms (MULTICANN, BUG, MYCANN-Plugs-in, is sometimes witty, sometimes entertaining, sometimes clever, and usually confusing and obuscatory and not helpful to allowing others to understand your argument. Regards David > On 20 May 2015, at 1:02 am, JFC Morfin wrote: > > Dear Wolfgang, > > Your question is pertinent. My response will be simple: the Civil Society that we have is inadequate because in the global network power game it has no power. You are right, it had some influence. This was when the private sector was learning how to adapt and use the liberal activists to better reach the conservative consumers. This period is over: CS people travel and stay at hotels at the private sector’s expenses and/or as part of some national delegations. The ICANN Internet has lost its disruptive interest. It has become a business road. > > The activist power was in the technology and innovation. Nothing has basically changed since 1983.1.1. IETF was created in 1986 by the USG to make sure that everything would be and would stay NSA-compatible. (I was made to close my innovation shop - and its RFC 923 16 million IP addresses :-) at that date by McDD). And ever since, everyone, including Governments, Militaries, Businesses, Merchants, etc. have been happy with this. In 1998, after Jon Postel started toying with the US root, they created the unique root 13 server legend (proving that he could not have technically done what he had :-)). And every digitally illiterate activist was happy with it. > > Then, progressively, China split from the ICANN's joke, with a local multiroot system. South Korea and China toyed with Aliases. This raised concerns among the private sector enough to consider an upgrade of the StatUS-quo strategy. The I*Core was revamped. At-large was framed in an obedient CS support organization. Industries reviewed their stands (Unicode, IEEE, W3C) with the ISOC help (and a State Department contractor). The update was ready in Aug 2012 before Dubai: it survived becoming a minority position vs. the Governments. Snowden helped a lot in delaying them (the US NSA bashing was a good point against every national NSA). In this multilateral vs multistakeholderism confrontation, there is a lot that the CS does not even understand anymore in the mentally engineered “technopolitically correct” context, and is also powerless to impose omnistakeholderism. Omniconsumerism has taken the lead, RosettaNet and the WEF are the Internet future. The NTIA has changed the WSIS State/Civil Society/Private Sector/Internationa organization enhanced cooperation multstakeholderism, into a business multitakeholderism where States are accepted on an equal footing basis with ICANN, GAFAMs, USCC, etc. > > My reading is simple. In our area, all of these are patches for a BUG. That BUG is the ICANN design to Be Unilaterally Global. As long as the NTIA is its sponsor, the BUG is a feature. Unfortunately, the CS activists are not any better than the IAB as architects because they have not worked enough on the reality's root. Not the root of the DNS, but rather the root of our changing (technological singularity) society, i.e. at the architectonical layer; what is changing man in changing the digital environment. This only means that CS activists are depressed. And they do not know how to revive themselves, i.e. to get some power back. > > Your new CS generation is simple to imagine. It will resume the pre-1985 non-NSA-constrained visionary path. Relational space oriented, Multitechnology, multioverlay physical and virtual architecture, OSI layer six presentation layer for security, extended intelligent services, multilingualism, etc. The second objective of “The catenet model for internetworking” of Vint Cerf's (IEN 48). > > The practical question now is how many CS activists will join in asking the IAB/IETF to provide guidance on full TCP/IP internet technology use, in a MULTICANN context, and support the emergence of BUG fixes, at individual user level through the proliferation of "MYCANN-Plugs-in". Then, you will see a real pre-revolutionary debate. Please remember that in the IoT context every CPU is a weapon: we have not yet started considering the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_smart_grid_protocol OSGP issue. Should CS be technically aware ... > > The real CS need as regards the global digital illiteracy is to increase literacy. The real task of CS people is to teach people what the internet is. A single authoritative internet book, rather than 8,000 RFCs. There are the so-called Names, Numbers, and Protocols Communities. The really missing one is the Unique Master Documentation Community. Then you will have a debate (1) about what the Internet technology can do (2) how to use it (3) how to extend, improve, and replace it depending on what you want to achieve and how. > > Discussing goals that you do not know how to achieve is rather boring. The CS is bored. > > Cheers! > jfc > > At 16:01 19/05/2015, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote: >> Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >> Content-class: urn:content-classes:messages >> >> Sorry for intervening: It is really a pitty that the discussion on this list is occupied by hairsplitting, "I told you but you do not listen" and "I am right and you are wrong". Why this civil society network, which once played an important role in policy development in the WSIS process, is unable to look forward where the real challenges are with the forthcoming WSIS 10+ processes and concentrate on substance and how to reach rough consensus? Why people do not respect anymore what Jon Postel has told us a quarter of a century ago in his robustness princple: "Be conservative in what you send, be liberal in what you accept". Why they do not remember the language of the CS WSIS Geneva Declaration from 2003? >> >> The Bali split (2013) has obviously long shadows and old warriors have overtaken the discussion. >> >> My hope is that the WSIS 10++ perspective will encourage a new generation of younger civil society people who feel more committed to the substance of real civil society activities and do not waste the limited resources and energies for infighting. And do not forget: The WGIG proposal for a multistakeholder approach in Internet Governance (2005) was a compromise between "governmental leadership" (China) and private sector leadership (USA)and it opened the door for civil society to become an inclusive part of the process. This was a boig achievement of that time and an opportunity. It is now up to the next generation of civil society activists to build on this oppportunity. It would be a big shame if this would be destroyed. >> >> Wolfgang >> >> >> >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org im Auftrag von parminder >> Gesendet: Di 19.05.2015 14:50 >> An: David Cake >> Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; BestBitsList; Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org >> Betreff: Re: [governance] [bestbits] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 >> >> >> >> On Tuesday 19 May 2015 03:35 PM, David Cake wrote: >> > My first reaction is that this seems to be a category error. A multi >> > stakeholder perspective is a description of how a workshop should be >> > constructed, and public interest a description of its content. >> >> David >> If you are still speaking of the same thing about which Peng Hwa and I >> were arguing, you are simply 'factually' wrong. The call for proposals >> spoke of 'multistakeholder perspective' with regard to content and not >> structure.... >> >> The precise language was "We now welcome proposals for pre-events or >> main workshop sessions which should present the proposed issue in an >> inclusive manner, incorporating a multi-stakeholder perspective....." >> >> I asked for "...incorporating a multistakeholder perspective" to be >> replaced by "incorporating a public interest perspective". It was >> always about the content of the workshop proposal and not the structure >> of workshop. >> >> I have been closely involved with the IGF, including its management >> structures, and know well what is meant by a multistakeholder >> 'structure' of a workshop. >> >> But of course one can now get into philosophical discussions about a >> certain sameness and continuity between structure and content. Please >> lets not do it and stick to the specific context. (More below) >> >> >> > One does not substitute for the other because they aren't the same >> > thing. Just as you couldn't claim a workshop was civil society only if >> > it was filled with commercial operators talking about their NGO >> > customers. Structure and composition of a workshop are different. And >> > frankly, Parminder, I'd be surprised if you couldn't put together a >> > multi-stakeholder workshop comprised entirely of sceptics of >> > multistakeholderism, which to my mind would incorporate a >> > 'multistakeholder perspective'. >> > >> > That said, I'm going to agree with Peng Hwa that 'public interest' is >> > a problematic term. >> >> There is a whole world of difference between (1) claiming that 'public >> interest is a problematic term' (especially when said at the same time >> as claiming that multistakeholderism is not) and (2) saying that >> 'determination of what is public interest in a given context is never >> easy, or even a problematic thing'. If determination of what constitutes >> public interest in a given context was not problematic we will not need >> politics and democracy. The latter institutions exist almost entirely to >> obtain a good and fair determination of what is pulbic interest, which >> they are still never able to do to everyone's satisfaction. So please do >> not confuse between 'public interest being a problematic term' and >> 'determination of what is public interest in any given context being >> problematic'. >> >> >> > The IP lobby are just one example of a group who, with some skill and >> > apparent sincerity, will strongly argue that advancing the relative >> > power of their narrow set of interests is also in the public interest >> > (the public surely wants to combat the various evils strengthened by >> > counterfeiting, they say). Governments always justify calls for >> > increased censorship and surveillance on public interest grounds (the >> > public must be protected from terrorism, drug smuggling, and >> > immorality). And you'd probably be quite appalled if you saw the uses >> > to which the concept has been put within ICANN, such as 'Public >> > Interest Commitments' taken on by many new GTLDs that commit them to >> > lobbyist led expansion of the rights of large trademark holders. >> > Almost every serious lobby group can manage the necessary mental >> > gymnastics to argue that they act in the public interest, and claiming >> > to act in the public interest is the go to strategy if you want to >> > justify overruling a community or consensus policy to favour your >> > lobby group. >> > >> > This isn't to say that a prolonged look at the issue of the public >> > interest - some serious examination of what relatively object ways we >> > have to determine it, or what processes lead to a relatively consensus >> > understanding of we determine public interest, wouldn't be very >> > valuable. A global process that looked at this idea would be great. I >> > think the current situation, where the concept is used to justify all >> > sorts of policies but is defined loosely or informally, is very >> > problematic. In this respect I agree with Parminder that it merits >> > much deeper discussion. >> >> Coming to the context of the series of congresses on 'Intellectual >> property and public interest', here is the list of participants >> of >> the 2011 Congress . Just one big business participant - Google among >> scores and scores others. And none in program committee, or among the >> hosing group or funders (except one, again Google, which is certainly an >> oddity, perhaps explainable but wont go there right now) . No way to me >> this looks like a multistakeholder or MS conference, as we have come to >> understand the term in the Internet governance space. >> /* >> *//*So, the question is why when we are considering policy issues or >> public interest in the Intellectual Property space, we rely on an >> assemblage *only* and *exclusively* of what can clearly be seen as >> public interest actors, and specifically exclude vested interests, >> (called stakeholders in the MS terminology), determination of policies >> or of public interest in the Internet governance space requires an equal >> participation of big business? Maybe you or any other MSist here will >> like to answer this key question.*/ >> >> As I said in my last email , I await putting forward of some Internet >> exceptional-ism arguments, about how IG is more expertise intensive >> (more than Intellectual Property or IP ??), or more private sector based >> (more than IP ??) or is more bottom up....... They clearly do not hold, >> but maybe some of you may want to flog them... >> > >> > But thinking of public interest as in some way opposed to, or distinct >> > from, multistakeholderism is a misguided position that is only going >> > to lead to a shallow and disappointing discussion. >> >> David, here you are turning the issue on its head , let me say, in >> somewhat disingenuous way. In arguing with APrIGF, it is not that I >> proposed 'dont use the MS word but use only public interest'. No, it >> were they who said, we wont use the pulbic interest word because it is >> not clear or is problematic. And of course youd remember in the recent >> UNESCO meeting; we did not say, pull out the MS word, we just said, also >> use the 'democratic' word: 'they' said, no 'democratic' cannot be used >> because it has baggage, while the MS word will stay (which they did not >> see as carrying any baggage). >> >> The problem is not about promoting multi-stakeholder participation. The >> problem is promoting a certain kind of MSism while at the same time >> decrying 'public interest (as an 'unclear problematic term'), democracy >> (as carrying baggage) and so on..... >> >> Now if you still do not see here a deliberate and strongly-invested >> process of building a post-democratic (and anti-democratic) vocabulary, >> theory and practice, then you just refuse to see it, about which I cant >> do much. >> >> parminder >> >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > David >> > >> > Sent from my iPad >> > >> > On 17 May 2015, at 3:46 pm, parminder > > > wrote: >> > >> >> Interesting theme of this series of global congresses: 'Intellectual >> >> Property and the Public Interest' ! >> >> >> >> Wonder if you ever thought of calling it "IP and the multistakeholder >> >> Interest' ? >> >> >> >> You all have have seen the discussion I recently had with Peng Hwa, >> >> head of the AP regional IGF process for many years, who strongly >> >> argued that public interest perspective is a very unclear concept but >> >> multistakeholder perspective or interest is much easier to establish. >> >> >> >> The discussion started when I objected to the call for workshops for >> >> the AP regional IGF which was categorical that every workshop >> >> proposal must incorporate a 'multistakeholder perspective'. I >> >> suggested that it be replaced by 'public interest'. This suggestion >> >> was not accepted. So, in fact, indeed the dominant groups involved >> >> with the IGF process do seem to think that 'public interest' is a >> >> problematic concept, and the idea of 'multistakeholder perspective' >> >> or interest is a positive political evolution over it! >> >> >> >> Friends, these are serious post-democratic developments to which, it >> >> is my duty of observe, most of the civil society involved in IG area >> >> are either a silent or active accomplices. >> >> >> >> Meanwhile, of course, I wait for arguments that Internet ( unlike >> >> intellectual property!?) is a bottom up , private, etc etc, thing, >> >> and therefore its governance has to be different.... Well, lets >> >> admit it, such an arugment really does not hold unless we are intent >> >> to be misled by it - the social artefact of the Internet is no more >> >> bottom up, private, etc that the social relationships of trade and >> >> property, whose governance continue to be done in democratic >> >> fashions... Time we claimed democratic governance for the Internet as >> >> well, and rubbish the post-democratic multistakeholderist ideas that >> >> are so solidly taking root in this space, for which the IG civil >> >> society will have to answer to history. >> >> >> >> Would anyone agree that the proposed global congress on IP and public >> >> interest to be held in a 'multistakeholder' way, with equal space for >> >> the big IP holders, as one always insists for an IG meeting... What >> >> really is the difference, other than that the discourse in the IG >> >> space has been captured by powerful forces before public interest >> >> actors could assert themselves. Civil society in this area must help >> >> in re-democraticing this area, and reclaiming 'public interest'. >> >> >> >> Meanwhile, my best wishes to the the organisers of this very >> >> importanr congress. >> >> >> >> In fact some of us have been talking about holding a global congress >> >> on 'Internet governance and public interest'. Happy to talk to those >> >> who may be interested. >> >> >> >> parminder >> >> >> >> On Friday 15 May 2015 03:21 PM, Geetha Hariharan wrote: >> >>> PFA the call for participation for the Global Congress on Intellectual >> >>> Property and Public Interest. >> >>> >> >>> Apologies for cross-posting. Please do circulate to anyone you think >> >>> might be interested. >> >>> >> >>> Best, >> >>> Geetha. >> >>> >> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> >>> From: Swaraj Barooah >> >>> Date: Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:05 PM >> >>> Subject: Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual >> >>> Property and the Public Interest, 2015 >> >>> >> >>> Dear all, >> >>> >> >>> We are pleased to announce the call for participation for the fourth >> >>> edition of the Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public >> >>> Interest ("Global Congress"). The theme for this year's Congress will be >> >>> "Three Decades of Openness; Two Decades of TRIPS." We are now inviting >> >>> applications to participate in the Congress, including session >> >>> participation and presentations. We are also welcoming proposals for >> >>> panels and workshops. >> >>> >> >>> The application form is available now at >> >>> [http://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?] Please note that this >> >>> form is for application purposes, and does not amount to confirmation of >> >>> participation. The registrations for the plenary sessions, which are >> >>> open to the public, will open closer to the date of the Global Congress. >> >>> >> >>> Deadlines >> >>> >> >>> August 1st: Priority Deadline for Applications- Applicants will be >> >>> considered on a rolling basis, with applications made by August 1st >> >>> being given first consideration. Applications after August 1st to >> >>> receive travel assistance will be considered only under exceptional >> >>> circumstances (these details will be collected in a subsequent form). >> >>> >> >>> November 1st: All applications for session participation and paper >> >>> submissions will close on November 1st. >> >>> >> >>> Application Information >> >>> >> >>> For applications to participate/host: Applications to present or host >> >>> workshops shall be considered based on the proposals to be submitted in >> >>> the form. >> >>> >> >>> For applications to attend sessions:Applications to attend sessions as >> >>> discussants will be considered based on the statement of purpose and/or >> >>> any other relevant information provided by the applicant. >> >>> >> >>> Limited travel grants to cover accommodation and/or travel to the >> >>> Congress will be available, with priority to those from developing >> >>> countries. >> >>> >> >>> Background, Theme and Expected Outcomes >> >>> >> >>> The Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest is >> >>> the most significant event on the calendar for scholars and policy >> >>> advocates working on intellectual property from a public interest >> >>> perspective. By sharing their research and strategies, the network of >> >>> experts and activists supported by the Global Congress are empowered to >> >>> put forward a positive agenda for policy reform. The Global Congress >> >>> began in Washington D.C. in 2011, moved to Rio de Janeiro in 2012, and >> >>> was held in Cape Town in 2013. The fourth Global Congress will now be >> >>> held in New Delhi, in December 2015. The event would be the largest >> >>> convening of public interest-oriented intellectual property >> >>> practitioners ever held in Asia, and would help link in the world's most >> >>> populous region to these global debates around how intellectual property >> >>> policy can best serve the public interest. >> >>> >> >>> The fourth edition of the Global Congress, which brings research, civil >> >>> society, industry and regulatory and policy-making communities together >> >>> for active, intense engagement on key public-interest intellectual >> >>> property issues. Opportunities for these groups to interact are rare but >> >>> valuable; and have been proven to lead to successful policy outcomes. >> >>> The 4thedition of the Congress, slated to be held in December, 2015 in >> >>> New Delhi seeks to be one such opportunity. >> >>> >> >>> The theme for the 2015 Congress is Three Decades of Openness; Two >> >>> Decades of TRIPS-coming at a pivotal time for reflection, revision, and >> >>> further strategizing. Specifically, the 2015 Congress seeks to produce >> >>> three outcomes- first, the mobilization of existing scholarly research >> >>> directly into the hands of civil society advocates, business leaders and >> >>> policy makers, leading to evidence-based policies and practices; >> >>> second,the collaborative identification of urgent, global and local >> >>> research priorities and generation of a joint research/advocacy agenda; >> >>> and third, the solidification of an inter-disciplinary, cross-sector and >> >>> global networked community of experts focused on public interest aspects >> >>> of IP policy and practice. >> >>> >> >>> Participation Opportunities >> >>> >> >>> Discussions at the Global Congress will be carried out in the form of >> >>> plenary sessions, thematic tracks, cross-track sessions, and the room of >> >>> scholars. Participation is invited for the thematic track sessions, >> >>> cross-track sessions and the room of scholars. >> >>> >> >>> The thematic tracks at the Global Congress are: 1) Openness, 2) Access >> >>> to Medicines, 3) User Rights, 4) IP and Development. >> >>> >> >>> Cross-track sessions will feature research that cuts across tracks in >> >>> order to facilitate engagement between tracks on themes of mutual >> >>> interest. >> >>> >> >>> The Room of Scholars will feature presentations of research outputs such >> >>> as draft works or white papers that may not fit directly within the >> >>> thematic tracks but fall within the overall theme of the Global Congress >> >>> . >> >>> >> >>> Participation could be in the form of presenting / discussing conference >> >>> papers or policy briefs, or by conducting workshops where they may share >> >>> their own work and solicit feedback from peers, during the >> >>> aforementioned sessions. >> >>> >> >>> The application form for participation is available now >> >>> athttp://form.jotformpro.com/form/50854976184973?. Please forward this >> >>> invitation to interested lists and individuals. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 455 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From dave at difference.com.au Wed May 20 12:06:22 2015 From: dave at difference.com.au (David Cake) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 18:06:22 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: <555B7D35.2030303@apc.org> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> <555B3194.6020509@itforchange.net> <555B6A0A.7000504@eff.org> <555B7D35.2030303@apc.org> Message-ID: <5F529D6B-3DBC-4213-9219-741D264F7C1E@difference.com.au> I am in full agreement with Anriette and Nick. We have a huge amount of work to do, and some huge threats and opportunities currently in the IP area. Spending our energy on definitions and interrogation of potential commercial allies seems a very unhelpful approach. We need any allies against the TPP we can find. If there are large US based commercial organisations that are willing to stand against TPP, and for positive copyright reform, I’ll happily work with them whether or not this makes me, in the opinion of others, a tool of empire. Regards David > On 19 May 2015, at 8:13 pm, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote: > > Dear all > > I am writing against my better judgement, but here goes anyway. > > The Global Congress on IP has been one of the most important spaces were > radical civil society has mobilised and strategised against some of the > most problematic US-government lead initiatives with regard to impact on > access to knowledge in recent years - ACTA and TPP. > > I have only ever been an observer at the Global Congress (when it was in > Cape Town in 2013) but have always learnt a lot, and I really value the > work that this community does in WIPO among other spaces. In Africa the > Global Congress has collaborated with projects such as the African > Access to Knowledge project.. people that we have done really important > work with, and who have influenced intellectual property legislation > positively. They work with groups such as councils for the blind and > visually impaired, and the library community. People that we need in > internet governance spaces if we want to build movement for social > justice in internet governance. > > I find it extremely disappointing and distressing that the debate in > this thread is not about substantial issues that the Global Congress > will address, but about whether it is 'multistakeholder' or not - > evolving into yet another set of assertions that everyone who supports > the notion of multistakeholder in ANY sense at all is by definition > coopted by empire. > > Why not write about substantive issues, and about how to pursue a social > justice agenda around the issues that are internet-related that the > Global Congress will address? > > Anriette > > > > On 19/05/2015 18:51, Jeremy Malcolm wrote: >> On 19/05/2015 5:50 am, parminder wrote: >>> Coming to the context of the series of congresses on 'Intellectual >>> property and public interest', here is the list of participants >>> of >>> the 2011 Congress . Just one big business participant - Google among >>> scores and scores others. And none in program committee, or among the >>> hosing group or funders (except one, again Google, which is certainly >>> an oddity, perhaps explainable but wont go there right now) . No way >>> to me this looks like a multistakeholder or MS conference, as we have >>> come to understand the term in the Internet governance space. >> >> Apples and oranges; the Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest >> never purported to be a multi-stakeholder event; it is closer to a Best >> Bits meeting or your Internet Social Forum, both of which are civil >> society only, than it is to something like the IGF. >> >> -- >> Jeremy Malcolm >> Senior Global Policy Analyst >> Electronic Frontier Foundation >> https://eff.org >> jmalcolm at eff.org >> >> Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161 >> >> :: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World :: >> >> Public key: https://www.eff.org/files/2014/10/09/key_jmalcolm.txt >> PGP fingerprint: FF13 C2E9 F9C3 DF54 7C4F EAC1 F675 AAE2 D2AB 2220 >> OTR fingerprint: 26EE FD85 3740 8228 9460 49A8 536F BCD2 536F A5BD >> >> Learn how to encrypt your email with the Email Self Defense guide: >> https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >> > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 455 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From george.sadowsky at gmail.com Wed May 20 13:20:43 2015 From: george.sadowsky at gmail.com (George Sadowsky) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 13:20:43 -0400 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Public interest and multi-stakeholder participation, was Re: Call for Participation: Global Congress .. In-Reply-To: <555C9D13.7030803@apc.org> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <55595C42.9050706@itforchange.net> <555C5C6A.5020606@apc.org> <307713677.20109.1432127727119.JavaMail.www@wwinf1m20> <555C9D13.7030803@apc.org> Message-ID: <240F45B0-9EAC-442A-B698-A09C0239C59B@gmail.com> This is one of the best expositions of the multi-stakeholder model and the importance of the orientation toward the global public interest that I have ever seen. Thank you, Anriette. In some quarters, multi-stakeholderism has almost become a religion, to be accepted on faith, with doubters shunned and excluded. IMO this is counterproductive both to understanding the possibilities of multi-stakeholderism and to employing when it is the right model to use. As Annette implies, there are all sorts of implementations of multi-stakeholderism, some where people come together on an equal footing, some not. Multi-stakeholder organizations are a means for achieving a goal, and it's the nature of the goal that affects who are to be considered the stakeholders and how they should be included in the multi-stakeholder process. The goal is the important element, and determines the means. I like Annette's discussion of the public interest, and how it opens a debate. Multi-stakehoder processes exist because there are competing interests at play. The hope is that this form of organization will be effective in producing a least unacceptable output across the set of stakeholders. Different stakeholders will naturally claim that their point of view is the best, and Annette's requirement that they define their view of the public interest and then state why their approach best serves it. Shedding this kind of light on a decision is likely to produce one of the better outcomes possible. Thank you again, Annette. George ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On May 20, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote: > Dear Jean-Louis > > I don't personally use the 'equal footing' term. Configuration of > participation depends on the issue being discussed and accountability > involved. The term equal footing creates unnecessary confusion and can > be interpreted as saying that government and public sector actors don't > have an important role or specific responsibilities. It can also be abused. > > If one is developing a national action plan on local content creation > having all different stakeholders involved 'equally' would be good, but > I would want to see particularly strong participation of people from > libraries, arts and culture and education ministries, content and > creative industries and so on. I would like to see large entertainment > companies, but also small independent producers and film makers, writers > and artists and people from cultural minorities. > > I would be concerned if government or big business had a louder voice in > this discussion than other stakeholders, as that might end up silencing > some voices, and reducing diversity of views. But that does not mean > that we don't need to hear from government, or from big business. > Although I would hope they use the opportunity to listen, not just speak. > > If it is a decision about how to tax global internet companies they > should have a voice in the pre-policy consultation process, but they > should not be making the decision. That is a decision that needs to be > made - transparently - by governments and intergovernmental > institutions. I would like civil society to be involved in this and I > would like public-interest economists to give input, and for the media > to be present so that we have more transparency. And I would like the > tax collection agencies to speak too.... as they know whether compliance > is likely to take place or not. > > On public interest.. for me the power of this concept is that it opens a > debate. It forces a discussion on what the broadest possible public > interest is. Just having a room full of different stakeholders will > bring you diversity, but they might just all talk about what it is > matters most to them as interest or stakeholder groups. So governments > might talk about national security, operators about intermediary > liability, civil society about freedom of expression... > > ...but if the obligation of the discussion is to serve the broadest > possible public interest they must all make the case of WHY the position > they are advocating for will serve that interest, and state how they > understand the public interest. > > And one should not make assumptions about who will argue for what. E.g > in some countries at present, small private sector content producers are > much more concerned with having a publicly funded public broadcaster > than government is. To assume that governments are in all cases the most > reliable custodians of the 'public interest' is wishful thinking. > > Perhaps I am being naive, but in my view having a public-interest > orientation makes a big difference. And that is why I was so pleased > when the NETmundial statement said that internet governance should be in > the public interest. > > It defines a common purpose, and a common measure - even if there will > still be different views of what serves the public interest best. > > I often say to telecom regulators - am actually in an event with African > regulators this minute - that their role is not primarily to balance > interests among operators - their role is to protect and promote the > interest of users/consumers/the public. > > Jean-Louis, I will not be in Geneva, but from APC there will be Shawna > Finnegan from APC staff for part of it, and Aida Mahmutovic who is on > APC's member council, representing our member in Bosnia-Herzegovina. > > Warm greetings > > Anriette > > > On 20/05/2015 15:15, Jean-Louis FULLSACK wrote: >> Dear Anriette >> >> >> >> Public interest " generally has different >>> meanings for different people and in different countries, for lawyers, >>> for activists" >> >> >> >> Don't the same remarks/restrictions apply to Multistakeholderism ? Do >> you see e.g. Burkina Faso government on "equal footing" with Google or >> other GAFA-like enterprises ? Not to mention BF Civil society orgs ? >> >> >> >> Best >> >> >> >> Jean-Louis Fullsack <> From willi.uebelherr at gmail.com Wed May 20 13:46:48 2015 From: willi.uebelherr at gmail.com (willi uebelherr) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 14:46:48 -0300 Subject: [bestbits] Why? In-Reply-To: <956C43B7-D951-4674-8926-B26D2438A3A6@difference.com.au> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> <555B3194.6020509@itforchange.net> <956C43B7-D951-4674-8926-B26D2438A3A6@difference.com.au> Message-ID: <555CC888.1090600@gmail.com> Dear David, i respect your personal opinion. Your answer is not a result of general observation, because you can speak only for your self. For me, this text from JFC is a real special text. JFC have a deep insight in the basic architecture of the internet. And also in the theatrical superstructure, what we give the name "Internet Governance". many greetings, willi Cordoba, Argentina -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: [bestbits] [governance] Why? Datum: Wed, 20 May 2015 17:56:24 +0200 Von: David Cake An: governance at lists.igcaucus.org, JFC Morfin Kopie (CC): BestBitsList Dear JFC, As a general observation, your enthusiasm for wordplay, neologisms and new inventive acronyms (MULTICANN, BUG, MYCANN-Plugs-in, is sometimes witty, sometimes entertaining, sometimes clever, and usually confusing and obuscatory and not helpful to allowing others to understand your argument. Regards, David -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: [bestbits] [governance] Why? Datum: Wed, 20 May 2015 01:02:59 +0200 Von: JFC Morfin An: governance at lists.igcaucus.org, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang , parminder , David Cake Kopie (CC): BestBitsList , Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org Dear Wolfgang, Your question is pertinent. My response will be simple: the Civil Society that we have is inadequate because in the global network power game it has no power. You are right, it had some influence. This was when the private sector was learning how to adapt and use the liberal activists to better reach the conservative consumers. This period is over: CS people travel and stay at hotels at the private sector’s expenses and/or as part of some national delegations. The ICANN Internet has lost its disruptive interest. It has become a business road. The activist power was in the technology and innovation. Nothing has basically changed since 1983.1.1. IETF was created in 1986 by the USG to make sure that everything would be and would stay NSA-compatible. (I was made to close my innovation shop - and its RFC 923 16 million IP addresses :-) at that date by McDD). And ever since, everyone, including Governments, Militaries, Businesses, Merchants, etc. have been happy with this. In 1998, after Jon Postel started toying with the US root, they created the unique root 13 server legend (proving that he could not have technically done what he had :-)). And every digitally illiterate activist was happy with it. Then, progressively, China split from the ICANN's joke, with a local multiroot system. South Korea and China toyed with Aliases. This raised concerns among the private sector enough to consider an upgrade of the StatUS-quo strategy. The I*Core was revamped. At-large was framed in an obedient CS support organization. Industries reviewed their stands (Unicode, IEEE, W3C) with the ISOC help (and a State Department contractor). The update was ready in Aug 2012 before Dubai: it survived becoming a minority position vs. the Governments. Snowden helped a lot in delaying them (the US NSA bashing was a good point against every national NSA). In this multilateral vs multistakeholderism confrontation, there is a lot that the CS does not even understand anymore in the mentally engineered “technopolitically correct” context, and is also powerless to impose omnistakeholderism. Omniconsumerism has taken the lead, RosettaNet and the WEF are the Internet future. The NTIA has changed the WSIS State/Civil Society/Private Sector/Internationa organization enhanced cooperation multstakeholderism, into a business multitakeholderism where States are accepted on an equal footing basis with ICANN, GAFAMs, USCC, etc. My reading is simple. In our area, all of these are patches for a BUG. That BUG is the ICANN design to Be Unilaterally Global. As long as the NTIA is its sponsor, the BUG is a feature. Unfortunately, the CS activists are not any better than the IAB as architects because they have not worked enough on the reality's root. Not the root of the DNS, but rather the root of our changing (technological singularity) society, i.e. at the architectonical layer; what is changing man in changing the digital environment. This only means that CS activists are depressed. And they do not know how to revive themselves, i.e. to get some power back. Your new CS generation is simple to imagine. It will resume the pre-1985 non-NSA-constrained visionary path. Relational space oriented, Multitechnology, multioverlay physical and virtual architecture, OSI layer six presentation layer for security, extended intelligent services, multilingualism, etc. The second objective of “The catenet model for internetworking” of Vint Cerf's (IEN 48). The practical question now is how many CS activists will join in asking the IAB/IETF to provide guidance on full TCP/IP internet technology use, in a MULTICANN context, and support the emergence of BUG fixes, at individual user level through the proliferation of "MYCANN-Plugs-in". Then, you will see a real pre-revolutionary debate. Please remember that in the IoT context every CPU is a weapon: we have not yet started considering the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_smart_grid_protocol OSGP issue. Should CS be technically aware ... The real CS need as regards the global digital illiteracy is to increase literacy. The real task of CS people is to teach people what the internet is. A single authoritative internet book, rather than 8,000 RFCs. There are the so-called Names, Numbers, and Protocols Communities. The really missing one is the Unique Master Documentation Community. Then you will have a debate (1) about what the Internet technology can do (2) how to use it (3) how to extend, improve, and replace it depending on what you want to achieve and how. Discussing goals that you do not know how to achieve is rather boring. The CS is bored. Cheers! jfc -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- Betreff: [governance] Why? Datum: Tue, 19 May 2015 16:01:12 +0200 Von: Kleinwächter, Wolfgang An: governance at lists.igcaucus.org, parminder , David Cake Kopie (CC): BestBitsList , Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org Sorry for intervening: It is really a pitty that the discussion on this list is occupied by hairsplitting, "I told you but you do not listen" and "I am right and you are wrong". Why this civil society network, which once played an important role in policy development in the WSIS process, is unable to look forward where the real challenges are with the forthcoming WSIS 10+ processes and concentrate on substance and how to reach rough consensus? Why people do not respect anymore what Jon Postel has told us a quarter of a century ago in his robustness princple: "Be conservative in what you send, be liberal in what you accept". Why they do not remember the language of the CS WSIS Geneva Declaration from 2003? The Bali split (2013) has obviously long shadows and old warriors have overtaken the discussion. My hope is that the WSIS 10++ perspective will encourage a new generation of younger civil society people who feel more committed to the substance of real civil society activities and do not waste the limited resources and energies for infighting. And do not forget: The WGIG proposal for a multistakeholder approach in Internet Governance (2005) was a compromise between "governmental leadership" (China) and private sector leadership (USA)and it opened the door for civil society to become an inclusive part of the process. This was a boig achievement of that time and an opportunity. It is now up to the next generation of civil society activists to build on this oppportunity. It would be a big shame if this would be destroyed. Wolfgang From claudio at derechosdigitales.org Wed May 20 15:43:42 2015 From: claudio at derechosdigitales.org (Claudio Ruiz) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 15:43:42 -0400 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: <555B7D35.2030303@apc.org> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> <555B3194.6020509@itforchange.net> <555B6A0A.7000504@eff.org> <555B7D35.2030303@apc.org> Message-ID: <37CDD860-F8A7-4265-BE59-9E2892A10370@derechosdigitales.org> Strong +1 to Anriette as well. It’s heartbreaking to me to receive so much emails about the definition of MS on every single thread someone put on the list no matter whether the thread is exactly that or one of the most important initiatives on copyright and public interest around the world such as the Global Congress. There are people who apparently really enjoy to have this long discussions on long emails threads transforming everything into a discussion on MS or ICANN or, lately, what public interest means. Personally speaking, it would be a better use of my time to use our BestBits mailing list to have substantive and productive exchange of ideas, experiences and points of view, rather than to convert it as a public space for a handful of people with apparently time and resources to share endless discussions about they think it’s important. And, let me tell you: it isn’t. —Claudio Ruiz derechosdigitales.org | @claudio PGP fingerprint C40E 0C6E E7B2 FA91 D8A9 1FC4 74D2 5C4D B603 D089 > On May 19, 2015, at 14:13, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote: > > Dear all > > I am writing against my better judgement, but here goes anyway. > > The Global Congress on IP has been one of the most important spaces were > radical civil society has mobilised and strategised against some of the > most problematic US-government lead initiatives with regard to impact on > access to knowledge in recent years - ACTA and TPP. > > I have only ever been an observer at the Global Congress (when it was in > Cape Town in 2013) but have always learnt a lot, and I really value the > work that this community does in WIPO among other spaces. In Africa the > Global Congress has collaborated with projects such as the African > Access to Knowledge project.. people that we have done really important > work with, and who have influenced intellectual property legislation > positively. They work with groups such as councils for the blind and > visually impaired, and the library community. People that we need in > internet governance spaces if we want to build movement for social > justice in internet governance. > > I find it extremely disappointing and distressing that the debate in > this thread is not about substantial issues that the Global Congress > will address, but about whether it is 'multistakeholder' or not - > evolving into yet another set of assertions that everyone who supports > the notion of multistakeholder in ANY sense at all is by definition > coopted by empire. > > Why not write about substantive issues, and about how to pursue a social > justice agenda around the issues that are internet-related that the > Global Congress will address? > > Anriette > > > > On 19/05/2015 18:51, Jeremy Malcolm wrote: >> On 19/05/2015 5:50 am, parminder wrote: >>> Coming to the context of the series of congresses on 'Intellectual >>> property and public interest', here is the list of participants >>> of >>> the 2011 Congress . Just one big business participant - Google among >>> scores and scores others. And none in program committee, or among the >>> hosing group or funders (except one, again Google, which is certainly >>> an oddity, perhaps explainable but wont go there right now) . No way >>> to me this looks like a multistakeholder or MS conference, as we have >>> come to understand the term in the Internet governance space. >> >> Apples and oranges; the Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest >> never purported to be a multi-stakeholder event; it is closer to a Best >> Bits meeting or your Internet Social Forum, both of which are civil >> society only, than it is to something like the IGF. >> >> -- >> Jeremy Malcolm >> Senior Global Policy Analyst >> Electronic Frontier Foundation >> https://eff.org >> jmalcolm at eff.org >> >> Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161 >> >> :: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World :: >> >> Public key: https://www.eff.org/files/2014/10/09/key_jmalcolm.txt >> PGP fingerprint: FF13 C2E9 F9C3 DF54 7C4F EAC1 F675 AAE2 D2AB 2220 >> OTR fingerprint: 26EE FD85 3740 8228 9460 49A8 536F BCD2 536F A5BD >> >> Learn how to encrypt your email with the Email Self Defense guide: >> https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >> > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits From carolina.rossini at gmail.com Wed May 20 15:01:20 2015 From: carolina.rossini at gmail.com (Carolina Rossini) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 15:01:20 -0400 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: <9D821682-14F1-4222-B08B-9F64D8372DCA@consensus.pro> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> <555B3194.6020509@itforchange.net> <555B6A0A.7000504@eff.org> <555B7D35.2030303@apc.org> <9D821682-14F1-4222-B08B-9F64D8372DCA@consensus.pro> Message-ID: I have been to all of them and now I am in the organization committee. It is a different community from the traditional IG community that is part of the BB (with some overlapping individuals of course). And it has been a great meet up for knowledge exchange of those working on intellectual property, open licensing/access, access to medicines, and access to knowledge. So +1 on Anriette and others on the same tone. On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 5:07 AM, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote: > +1 from here too. I've only been to one of the Global Congresses and > whilst some of the presentations seemed to me overly-academic / lecturing > it is the focal point for non-industry intellectual property policy > advocates to get together each year. > > Given the amount of change that's possible in IP norm-making in Europe, > the US, and so many other places - change that CS has been demanding for > years now being possible - it would be indescribably awful for even one > tiny bit of that potential to be wasted through definitions of terms. The > lives of real people and the future of knowledge access are the game. It > seems to me that should be the laser-like focus of CS. > > IMO > > > On 20 May 2015, at 10:35, Poncelet Ileleji wrote: > > +++++1 Anriette well said indeed, > > Thanks alot > > Poncelet > > On 19 May 2015 at 18:13, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote: > >> Dear all >> >> I am writing against my better judgement, but here goes anyway. >> >> The Global Congress on IP has been one of the most important spaces were >> radical civil society has mobilised and strategised against some of the >> most problematic US-government lead initiatives with regard to impact on >> access to knowledge in recent years - ACTA and TPP. >> >> I have only ever been an observer at the Global Congress (when it was in >> Cape Town in 2013) but have always learnt a lot, and I really value the >> work that this community does in WIPO among other spaces. In Africa the >> Global Congress has collaborated with projects such as the African >> Access to Knowledge project.. people that we have done really important >> work with, and who have influenced intellectual property legislation >> positively. They work with groups such as councils for the blind and >> visually impaired, and the library community. People that we need in >> internet governance spaces if we want to build movement for social >> justice in internet governance. >> >> I find it extremely disappointing and distressing that the debate in >> this thread is not about substantial issues that the Global Congress >> will address, but about whether it is 'multistakeholder' or not - >> evolving into yet another set of assertions that everyone who supports >> the notion of multistakeholder in ANY sense at all is by definition >> coopted by empire. >> >> Why not write about substantive issues, and about how to pursue a social >> justice agenda around the issues that are internet-related that the >> Global Congress will address? >> >> Anriette >> >> >> >> On 19/05/2015 18:51, Jeremy Malcolm wrote: >> > On 19/05/2015 5:50 am, parminder wrote: >> >> Coming to the context of the series of congresses on 'Intellectual >> >> property and public interest', here is the list of participants >> >> < >> http://infojustice.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Participants-Handout1.pdf >> >of >> >> the 2011 Congress . Just one big business participant - Google among >> >> scores and scores others. And none in program committee, or among the >> >> hosing group or funders (except one, again Google, which is certainly >> >> an oddity, perhaps explainable but wont go there right now) . No way >> >> to me this looks like a multistakeholder or MS conference, as we have >> >> come to understand the term in the Internet governance space. >> > >> > Apples and oranges; the Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest >> > never purported to be a multi-stakeholder event; it is closer to a Best >> > Bits meeting or your Internet Social Forum, both of which are civil >> > society only, than it is to something like the IGF. >> > >> > -- >> > Jeremy Malcolm >> > Senior Global Policy Analyst >> > Electronic Frontier Foundation >> > https://eff.org >> > jmalcolm at eff.org >> > >> > Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161 >> > >> > :: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World :: >> > >> > Public key: https://www.eff.org/files/2014/10/09/key_jmalcolm.txt >> > PGP fingerprint: FF13 C2E9 F9C3 DF54 7C4F EAC1 F675 AAE2 D2AB 2220 >> > OTR fingerprint: 26EE FD85 3740 8228 9460 49A8 536F BCD2 536F A5BD >> > >> > Learn how to encrypt your email with the Email Self Defense guide: >> > https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en >> > >> > >> > >> > ____________________________________________________________ >> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >> > >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >> > > > > -- > Poncelet O. 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And, let me tell you: it isn’t. > > —Claudio Ruiz > derechosdigitales.org | @claudio > PGP fingerprint > C40E 0C6E E7B2 FA91 D8A9 1FC4 74D2 5C4D B603 D089 > > > On May 19, 2015, at 14:13, Anriette Esterhuysen > wrote: > > > > Dear all > > > > I am writing against my better judgement, but here goes anyway. > > > > The Global Congress on IP has been one of the most important spaces were > > radical civil society has mobilised and strategised against some of the > > most problematic US-government lead initiatives with regard to impact on > > access to knowledge in recent years - ACTA and TPP. > > > > I have only ever been an observer at the Global Congress (when it was in > > Cape Town in 2013) but have always learnt a lot, and I really value the > > work that this community does in WIPO among other spaces. In Africa the > > Global Congress has collaborated with projects such as the African > > Access to Knowledge project.. people that we have done really important > > work with, and who have influenced intellectual property legislation > > positively. They work with groups such as councils for the blind and > > visually impaired, and the library community. People that we need in > > internet governance spaces if we want to build movement for social > > justice in internet governance. > > > > I find it extremely disappointing and distressing that the debate in > > this thread is not about substantial issues that the Global Congress > > will address, but about whether it is 'multistakeholder' or not - > > evolving into yet another set of assertions that everyone who supports > > the notion of multistakeholder in ANY sense at all is by definition > > coopted by empire. > > > > Why not write about substantive issues, and about how to pursue a social > > justice agenda around the issues that are internet-related that the > > Global Congress will address? > > > > Anriette > > > > > > > > On 19/05/2015 18:51, Jeremy Malcolm wrote: > >> On 19/05/2015 5:50 am, parminder wrote: > >>> Coming to the context of the series of congresses on 'Intellectual > >>> property and public interest', here is the list of participants > >>> < > http://infojustice.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Participants-Handout1.pdf > >of > >>> the 2011 Congress . Just one big business participant - Google among > >>> scores and scores others. And none in program committee, or among the > >>> hosing group or funders (except one, again Google, which is certainly > >>> an oddity, perhaps explainable but wont go there right now) . No way > >>> to me this looks like a multistakeholder or MS conference, as we have > >>> come to understand the term in the Internet governance space. > >> > >> Apples and oranges; the Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest > >> never purported to be a multi-stakeholder event; it is closer to a Best > >> Bits meeting or your Internet Social Forum, both of which are civil > >> society only, than it is to something like the IGF. > >> > >> -- > >> Jeremy Malcolm > >> Senior Global Policy Analyst > >> Electronic Frontier Foundation > >> https://eff.org > >> jmalcolm at eff.org > >> > >> Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161 > >> > >> :: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World :: > >> > >> Public key: https://www.eff.org/files/2014/10/09/key_jmalcolm.txt > >> PGP fingerprint: FF13 C2E9 F9C3 DF54 7C4F EAC1 F675 AAE2 D2AB 2220 > >> OTR fingerprint: 26EE FD85 3740 8228 9460 49A8 536F BCD2 536F A5BD > >> > >> Learn how to encrypt your email with the Email Self Defense guide: > >> https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en > >> > >> > >> > >> ____________________________________________________________ > >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > -- *Carolina Rossini * *Vice President, International Policy* *Public Knowledge* *http://www.publicknowledge.org/ * + 1 6176979389 | skype: carolrossini | @carolinarossini -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From lea at gp-digital.org Wed May 6 06:05:59 2015 From: lea at gp-digital.org (Lea Kaspar) Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 11:05:59 +0100 Subject: [bestbits] IGF/MAG Update - May 2015 (IGF Policy Menus & Best Practice Forums) Message-ID: Dear friends, Find below a status update on two IGF MAG inter-sessional activities (drafted by ISOC's Constance Bommelaer): *Best Practice Forums (BPFs)* and developing the *IGF Policy Menus for Connecting the Next Billion*. To remind you, this work is based on the input received during the public consultation period launched earlier this year. Mailing lists to engage in various BPFs are open to all interested parties - and very welcome (see below). In addition, MAG has now concluded the initial evaluation round of workshop proposals for the annual IGF. This year, MAG members evaluated *over 250 propos**als*. A large *majority of proposals were submitted by civil society*, followed by the technical community and the private sector, then intergovernmental organisations, and governments. Regarding the correspondence between the submitted proposals and the IGF 2015 sub-themes, *Internet and human rights *was the sub-theme with the largest number of proposals, while Critical Internet resources and Openness had the smallest numbers of proposals. Once the Secretariat collates scores submitted by the MAG, the ranked proposals will be reviewed by MAG members at the upcoming MAG meeting in Geneva, May 20-22. Hope this is informative. Happy to answer any questions. Best wishes, Lea --- Dear Participants, (CC to the MAG) This is to give an update on the status of the IGF 2015 Best Practices Forums and on the inter-sessional work underway to develop “Policy Menus for Connecting the Next Billion”. *I - IGF Best Practices Forums* A public webinar was organized on 2 April including the different coordinators to exchange insights on the working methodology. For the convenience of the group, I am reattaching the framework document that was used as a basis for last year's BPFs, acknowledging that each group adapts the methodology in a flexible way to the needs of the specific topics. *Themes* *and coordinators*: - Regulation and mitigation of unwanted communications : Markus Kummer - Establishing and supporting Computer Security Incident Response Teams (CSIRTs) : Markus Kummer - Developing meaningful multistakeholder participation mechanisms : Avri Doria - Practices to countering abuse against women online : Jac Kee and Subi Chatuvedi - IPv6 : Izumi Okutani and Susan Chalmers - IXPs : Desirée Zachariah (an additional volunteer would be welcome) In the coming weeks, outreach efforts will focus on involving the relevant expert stakeholders in each group, as some groups are more active than others. Leaders of Dynamic Coalitions are also invited to participate. The *mailing lists* are open to all interested stakeholders ( *sign-up* *here* ). *II - “Policy Menus for Connecting the Next Billion”* The MAG, led by a working group of volunteers (Amb. Benedicto Fonseca Filho (lead), Virat Bhatia, Lynn St. Amour, Baher Esmat, Avri Doria and Constance Bommelaer (Advisor to the Chair)) has continued to work on the draft framework for developing “Policy Menus for Connecting the Next Billion”, based on the results of the *public* *consultation* (scroll down on IGF homepage) launched by the IGF Secretariat in January and February 2015. A formal invitation was extended to all *national and regional initiatives* both to contribute to the horizontal global inter-sessional theme for this year: *"*Policy Menus for Connecting the Next Billion", and to develop messages and/ or conclusions that will support the global IGF inter-sessional work. During its next physical meeting (20-22 May, Geneva), the MAG will discuss with a view to finalizing the *draft* *framework* for developing “Policy Menus on Connecting the Next Billion”. Thank you and best regards, Constance Bommelaer Senior Director, Global Internet Policy The Internet Society http://www.isoc.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Since we do not work in IP and relevant areas so did not comment on the thread. ...but I have to say that increasingly I find the lists to be quite hostile. It wasn't like that earlier. Can we try to work towards better environment of online interactions? I fear that newcomers won't be able to contribute much otherwise. Yes, we can disagree but still be much more productive and goal oriented. Best wishes and regards Shahzad On 5/21/15 12:43 AM, Claudio Ruiz wrote: > Strong +1 to Anriette as well. > > It’s heartbreaking to me to receive so much emails about the definition of MS on every single thread someone put on the list no matter whether the thread is exactly that or one of the most important initiatives on copyright and public interest around the world such as the Global Congress. > > > There are people who apparently really enjoy to have this long discussions on long emails threads transforming everything into a discussion on MS or ICANN or, lately, what public interest means. > > Personally speaking, it would be a better use of my time to use our BestBits mailing list to have substantive and productive exchange of ideas, experiences and points of view, rather than to convert it as a public space for a handful of people with apparently time and resources to share endless discussions about they think it’s important. And, let me tell you: it isn’t. > > —Claudio Ruiz > derechosdigitales.org | @claudio > PGP fingerprint > C40E 0C6E E7B2 FA91 D8A9 1FC4 74D2 5C4D B603 D089 > >> On May 19, 2015, at 14:13, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote: >> >> Dear all >> >> I am writing against my better judgement, but here goes anyway. >> >> The Global Congress on IP has been one of the most important spaces were >> radical civil society has mobilised and strategised against some of the >> most problematic US-government lead initiatives with regard to impact on >> access to knowledge in recent years - ACTA and TPP. >> >> I have only ever been an observer at the Global Congress (when it was in >> Cape Town in 2013) but have always learnt a lot, and I really value the >> work that this community does in WIPO among other spaces. In Africa the >> Global Congress has collaborated with projects such as the African >> Access to Knowledge project.. people that we have done really important >> work with, and who have influenced intellectual property legislation >> positively. They work with groups such as councils for the blind and >> visually impaired, and the library community. People that we need in >> internet governance spaces if we want to build movement for social >> justice in internet governance. >> >> I find it extremely disappointing and distressing that the debate in >> this thread is not about substantial issues that the Global Congress >> will address, but about whether it is 'multistakeholder' or not - >> evolving into yet another set of assertions that everyone who supports >> the notion of multistakeholder in ANY sense at all is by definition >> coopted by empire. >> >> Why not write about substantive issues, and about how to pursue a social >> justice agenda around the issues that are internet-related that the >> Global Congress will address? >> >> Anriette >> >> >> >> On 19/05/2015 18:51, Jeremy Malcolm wrote: >>> On 19/05/2015 5:50 am, parminder wrote: >>>> Coming to the context of the series of congresses on 'Intellectual >>>> property and public interest', here is the list of participants >>>> of >>>> the 2011 Congress . Just one big business participant - Google among >>>> scores and scores others. And none in program committee, or among the >>>> hosing group or funders (except one, again Google, which is certainly >>>> an oddity, perhaps explainable but wont go there right now) . No way >>>> to me this looks like a multistakeholder or MS conference, as we have >>>> come to understand the term in the Internet governance space. >>> Apples and oranges; the Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest >>> never purported to be a multi-stakeholder event; it is closer to a Best >>> Bits meeting or your Internet Social Forum, both of which are civil >>> society only, than it is to something like the IGF. >>> >>> -- >>> Jeremy Malcolm >>> Senior Global Policy Analyst >>> Electronic Frontier Foundation >>> https://eff.org >>> jmalcolm at eff.org >>> >>> Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161 >>> >>> :: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World :: >>> >>> Public key: https://www.eff.org/files/2014/10/09/key_jmalcolm.txt >>> PGP fingerprint: FF13 C2E9 F9C3 DF54 7C4F EAC1 F675 AAE2 D2AB 2220 >>> OTR fingerprint: 26EE FD85 3740 8228 9460 49A8 536F BCD2 536F A5BD >>> >>> Learn how to encrypt your email with the Email Self Defense guide: >>> https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >>> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >>> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lea at gp-digital.org Thu May 21 07:08:44 2015 From: lea at gp-digital.org (Lea Kaspar) Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 12:08:44 +0100 Subject: [bestbits] Open Letter to UN PGA Calling For an Open WSIS+10 Preparatory Process Message-ID: Dear all, Please see below information related to an open letter calling for a transparent and open WSIS+10 preparatory process , drafted by a group of non-governmental organisations. So far, it has been signed by almost 90 organisations and individuals. It has also received informal support by the Government of Mexico and a number of other governments. The letter has been shared with the President of the UN General Assembly (PGA) and a number of UN missions in NY. Further endorsements are invited as an updated list of signatories will be shared with the PGA next week. Feel free to share widely. Best, Lea --- *Call For an Open WSIS+10 Preparatory Process* 2015 is the year where we celebrate the 10 years of the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS). In June 2015, the United Nations will be launching a process leading to a conference called a “High Level Event” to review the implementation of the WSIS and to shape a vision for its future. The event will take place in December in New York. For the past 10 years, governments, the private sector, civil society, academia and the Internet technical community have worked together at the local and the global levels to make the Internet a useful tool for economic and social development. Despite that, it seems that the WSIS Review process this year will play mostly following intergovernmental rules, only referring to currently undefined consultations with other stakeholders. In the spirit of multistakeholder cooperation that has marked the past 10 years, a number of non-governmental organizations (NGOs) historically engaged in the WSIS process and interested in its review have decided to write to the President of the UN General Assembly calling for an open and inclusive preparatory process. All interested stakeholders are invited to endorse this letter ! Please join with the current signatories in calling upon the UN to have an open and inclusive WSIS+10 preparatory process! The full letter sent on 12 May 2015 to UN General Assembly President H.E. Mr. Sam Kahamba Kutesa can be found here . Additional signatories will be relayed in the future… so please sign the letter today! --- *Lea Kaspar* Head of Programmes and International Policy | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL Development House, 56–64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT T: +44 (0)20 7549 0337 | M: +44 (0)7583 929216 | Skype: l.kaspar gp-digital.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wjdrake at gmail.com Thu May 21 08:42:24 2015 From: wjdrake at gmail.com (William Drake) Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 14:42:24 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Public interest and multi-stakeholder participation, was Re: Call for Participation: Global Congress .. In-Reply-To: <240F45B0-9EAC-442A-B698-A09C0239C59B@gmail.com> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <55595C42.9050706@itforchange.net> <555C5C6A.5020606@apc.org> <307713677.20109.1432127727119.JavaMail.www@wwinf1m20> <555C9D13.7030803@apc.org> <240F45B0-9EAC-442A-B698-A09C0239C59B@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi In light of this discussion, I thought I’d bring to peoples' attention this workshop to be held at the IGF meeting in Brazil in November: No. 52 The Global “Public Interest” in Critical Internet Resources http://intgovforum.org/cms/wks2015/index.php/proposal/view_public/52 Would be happy to see folks and continue the conversation there. Best Bill > On May 20, 2015, at 7:20 PM, George Sadowsky wrote: > > This is one of the best expositions of the multi-stakeholder model and the importance of the orientation toward the global public interest that I have ever seen. Thank you, Anriette. > > In some quarters, multi-stakeholderism has almost become a religion, to be accepted on faith, with doubters shunned and excluded. IMO this is counterproductive both to understanding the possibilities of multi-stakeholderism and to employing when it is the right model to use. As Annette implies, there are all sorts of implementations of multi-stakeholderism, some where people come together on an equal footing, some not. Multi-stakeholder organizations are a means for achieving a goal, and it's the nature of the goal that affects who are to be considered the stakeholders and how they should be included in the multi-stakeholder process. The goal is the important element, and determines the means. > > I like Annette's discussion of the public interest, and how it opens a debate. > > Multi-stakehoder processes exist because there are competing interests at play. The hope is that this form of organization will be effective in producing a least unacceptable output across the set of stakeholders. Different stakeholders will naturally claim that their point of view is the best, and Annette's requirement that they define their view of the public interest and then state why their approach best serves it. Shedding this kind of light on a decision is likely to produce one of the better outcomes possible. > > Thank you again, Annette. > > George > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > On May 20, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote: > >> Dear Jean-Louis >> >> I don't personally use the 'equal footing' term. Configuration of >> participation depends on the issue being discussed and accountability >> involved. The term equal footing creates unnecessary confusion and can >> be interpreted as saying that government and public sector actors don't >> have an important role or specific responsibilities. It can also be abused. >> >> If one is developing a national action plan on local content creation >> having all different stakeholders involved 'equally' would be good, but >> I would want to see particularly strong participation of people from >> libraries, arts and culture and education ministries, content and >> creative industries and so on. I would like to see large entertainment >> companies, but also small independent producers and film makers, writers >> and artists and people from cultural minorities. >> >> I would be concerned if government or big business had a louder voice in >> this discussion than other stakeholders, as that might end up silencing >> some voices, and reducing diversity of views. But that does not mean >> that we don't need to hear from government, or from big business. >> Although I would hope they use the opportunity to listen, not just speak. >> >> If it is a decision about how to tax global internet companies they >> should have a voice in the pre-policy consultation process, but they >> should not be making the decision. That is a decision that needs to be >> made - transparently - by governments and intergovernmental >> institutions. I would like civil society to be involved in this and I >> would like public-interest economists to give input, and for the media >> to be present so that we have more transparency. And I would like the >> tax collection agencies to speak too.... as they know whether compliance >> is likely to take place or not. >> >> On public interest.. for me the power of this concept is that it opens a >> debate. It forces a discussion on what the broadest possible public >> interest is. Just having a room full of different stakeholders will >> bring you diversity, but they might just all talk about what it is >> matters most to them as interest or stakeholder groups. So governments >> might talk about national security, operators about intermediary >> liability, civil society about freedom of expression... >> >> ...but if the obligation of the discussion is to serve the broadest >> possible public interest they must all make the case of WHY the position >> they are advocating for will serve that interest, and state how they >> understand the public interest. >> >> And one should not make assumptions about who will argue for what. E.g >> in some countries at present, small private sector content producers are >> much more concerned with having a publicly funded public broadcaster >> than government is. To assume that governments are in all cases the most >> reliable custodians of the 'public interest' is wishful thinking. >> >> Perhaps I am being naive, but in my view having a public-interest >> orientation makes a big difference. And that is why I was so pleased >> when the NETmundial statement said that internet governance should be in >> the public interest. >> >> It defines a common purpose, and a common measure - even if there will >> still be different views of what serves the public interest best. >> >> I often say to telecom regulators - am actually in an event with African >> regulators this minute - that their role is not primarily to balance >> interests among operators - their role is to protect and promote the >> interest of users/consumers/the public. >> >> Jean-Louis, I will not be in Geneva, but from APC there will be Shawna >> Finnegan from APC staff for part of it, and Aida Mahmutovic who is on >> APC's member council, representing our member in Bosnia-Herzegovina. >> >> Warm greetings >> >> Anriette >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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At the request of the Board, Chehadé will be available to work closely with ICANN after March 2016 to support the transition to a new leader, as well as to advise the Board on any issue they require including the implementation of the IANA Stewardship Transition from the US Government to ICANN and the technical operating community. "I want to thank Fadi for his strong commitment," said Dr. Stephen Crocker, Chair of the Board of Directors. I am very confident that with Fadi's continued leadership and ICANN's very experienced management team who have the breadth to ensure that ICANN continues to manage its key responsibilities effectively, that the organization's work will proceed smoothly." "I am deeply committed to working with the Board, our staff, and our community to continue ICANN's mission as we still have much to accomplish," said Chehadé. "During the remaining 10 months of my tenure, it's business-as-usual. 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Lessons from the Internet Mercantile Protocol listserv and yet another IGC Failure to Communicate In-Reply-To: <2f2fbb80f7544f39bdb71fe0aac16dfb@EX13-MBX-07.ad.syr.edu> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> <555B3194.6020509@itforchange.net> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801642EBD@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <2f2fbb80f7544f39bdb71fe0aac16dfb@EX13-MBX-07.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <21854.9090.665962.264791@world.std.com> FWIW, when I put the general public on the internet for the first time in 1989 I did receive a fair amount of hate mail. Illegal sale of government property, that sort of thing. None of it organized, fortunately. Some of it came through members of a similar list to IMP, com-priv (Commercialization and Privatization of the Internet), which some of you may remember. -- -Barry Shein The World | bzs at TheWorld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 800-THE-WRLD | Dial-Up: US, PR, Canada Software Tool & Die | Public Access Internet | SINCE 1989 *oo* From mishi at softwarefreedom.org Thu May 21 16:46:50 2015 From: mishi at softwarefreedom.org (Mishi Choudhary) Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 16:46:50 -0400 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Public interest and multi-stakeholder participation, was Re: Call for Participation: Global Congress .. In-Reply-To: References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <55595C42.9050706@itforchange.net> <555C5C6A.5020606@apc.org> <307713677.20109.1432127727119.JavaMail.www@wwinf1m20> <555C9D13.7030803@apc.org> <240F45B0-9EAC-442A-B698-A09C0239C59B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <555E443A.9060409@softwarefreedom.org> Thanks Bill! This will be useful. Different jurisdictions talk about the term differently. In Black's Law Dictionary "public interest" is defined as follows: Public Interest something in which the public, or some interest by which their legal rights or liabilities are affected. It does not mean anything the particular localities, which may be affected by the matters in question. Interest shared by national government I can remember long discussions about this term during an important education related case in India on which I worked at the turn of this century. Herein below, I quote: "Public interest means those interest which concern the public at large. Matter of public interest 'does not mean that which is interesting as gratifying curiosity or love of information or amusement; but that in which a class of the community have a pecuniary interest, or some interest by which their legal rights or liabilities are affected' (per Campbell, CJ., R. v. Bedfordshire, 4E and B, 541, 542). The expression 'public interest' is not capable of precise definition and has not a rigid meaning and is elastic and takes its colours from the statute in which it occurs, the concept varying with the time and state for society and its needs. Thus what is 'public interest' today may not be so considered a decade later. On 05/21/2015 08:42 AM, William Drake wrote: > Hi > > In light of this discussion, I thought I’d bring to peoples' attention this workshop to be held at the IGF meeting in Brazil in November: > > No. 52 The Global “Public Interest” in Critical Internet Resources > http://intgovforum.org/cms/wks2015/index.php/proposal/view_public/52 > > Would be happy to see folks and continue the conversation there. > > Best > > Bill > >> On May 20, 2015, at 7:20 PM, George Sadowsky wrote: >> >> This is one of the best expositions of the multi-stakeholder model and the importance of the orientation toward the global public interest that I have ever seen. Thank you, Anriette. >> >> In some quarters, multi-stakeholderism has almost become a religion, to be accepted on faith, with doubters shunned and excluded. IMO this is counterproductive both to understanding the possibilities of multi-stakeholderism and to employing when it is the right model to use. As Annette implies, there are all sorts of implementations of multi-stakeholderism, some where people come together on an equal footing, some not. Multi-stakeholder organizations are a means for achieving a goal, and it's the nature of the goal that affects who are to be considered the stakeholders and how they should be included in the multi-stakeholder process. The goal is the important element, and determines the means. >> >> I like Annette's discussion of the public interest, and how it opens a debate. >> >> Multi-stakehoder processes exist because there are competing interests at play. The hope is that this form of organization will be effective in producing a least unacceptable output across the set of stakeholders. Different stakeholders will naturally claim that their point of view is the best, and Annette's requirement that they define their view of the public interest and then state why their approach best serves it. Shedding this kind of light on a decision is likely to produce one of the better outcomes possible. >> >> Thank you again, Annette. >> >> George >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >> On May 20, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote: >> >>> Dear Jean-Louis >>> >>> I don't personally use the 'equal footing' term. Configuration of >>> participation depends on the issue being discussed and accountability >>> involved. The term equal footing creates unnecessary confusion and can >>> be interpreted as saying that government and public sector actors don't >>> have an important role or specific responsibilities. It can also be abused. >>> >>> If one is developing a national action plan on local content creation >>> having all different stakeholders involved 'equally' would be good, but >>> I would want to see particularly strong participation of people from >>> libraries, arts and culture and education ministries, content and >>> creative industries and so on. I would like to see large entertainment >>> companies, but also small independent producers and film makers, writers >>> and artists and people from cultural minorities. >>> >>> I would be concerned if government or big business had a louder voice in >>> this discussion than other stakeholders, as that might end up silencing >>> some voices, and reducing diversity of views. But that does not mean >>> that we don't need to hear from government, or from big business. >>> Although I would hope they use the opportunity to listen, not just speak. >>> >>> If it is a decision about how to tax global internet companies they >>> should have a voice in the pre-policy consultation process, but they >>> should not be making the decision. That is a decision that needs to be >>> made - transparently - by governments and intergovernmental >>> institutions. I would like civil society to be involved in this and I >>> would like public-interest economists to give input, and for the media >>> to be present so that we have more transparency. And I would like the >>> tax collection agencies to speak too.... as they know whether compliance >>> is likely to take place or not. >>> >>> On public interest.. for me the power of this concept is that it opens a >>> debate. It forces a discussion on what the broadest possible public >>> interest is. Just having a room full of different stakeholders will >>> bring you diversity, but they might just all talk about what it is >>> matters most to them as interest or stakeholder groups. So governments >>> might talk about national security, operators about intermediary >>> liability, civil society about freedom of expression... >>> >>> ...but if the obligation of the discussion is to serve the broadest >>> possible public interest they must all make the case of WHY the position >>> they are advocating for will serve that interest, and state how they >>> understand the public interest. >>> >>> And one should not make assumptions about who will argue for what. E.g >>> in some countries at present, small private sector content producers are >>> much more concerned with having a publicly funded public broadcaster >>> than government is. To assume that governments are in all cases the most >>> reliable custodians of the 'public interest' is wishful thinking. >>> >>> Perhaps I am being naive, but in my view having a public-interest >>> orientation makes a big difference. And that is why I was so pleased >>> when the NETmundial statement said that internet governance should be in >>> the public interest. >>> >>> It defines a common purpose, and a common measure - even if there will >>> still be different views of what serves the public interest best. >>> >>> I often say to telecom regulators - am actually in an event with African >>> regulators this minute - that their role is not primarily to balance >>> interests among operators - their role is to protect and promote the >>> interest of users/consumers/the public. >>> >>> Jean-Louis, I will not be in Geneva, but from APC there will be Shawna >>> Finnegan from APC staff for part of it, and Aida Mahmutovic who is on >>> APC's member council, representing our member in Bosnia-Herzegovina. >>> >>> Warm greetings >>> >>> Anriette >>> > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > -- Warm Regards Mishi Choudhary, Esq. Legal Director Software Freedom Law Center 1995 Broadway Floor 17 New York, NY-10023 (tel) 212-461-1912 (fax) 212-580-0898 www.softwarefreedom.org Executive Director SFLC.IN K-9, Second Floor Jangpura Extn. New Delhi-110014 (tel) +91-11-43587126 (fax) +91-11-24323530 www.sflc.in From bzs at world.std.com Fri May 22 00:07:28 2015 From: bzs at world.std.com (Barry Shein) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 00:07:28 -0400 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: <555AE192.7020101@itforchange.net> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <21850.8747.820474.814826@world.std.com> <555AE192.7020101@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <21854.43904.328205.594992@world.std.com> From: parminder >On Monday 18 May 2015 11:02 PM, Barry Shein wrote: >> You can't have an operational definition of "multistakeholderism" >> without some process to define it such as enfranchisement in a >> governance body. >> >> One could argue that ICANN has done that via its by-laws. The board of >> directors recognizes certain groups as groups of enfranchised >> stakeholders for each group's stated purpose: Address Supporting >> Organization (ASO), Country-Code Names Supporting Organization >> (CCNSO), Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), Advisory >> Committees (AC, such as GAC, SSAC, RSSAC, ALAC), and then other, >> board, and temporary committees. > >Barry, by your account nothing can be more top down than >multistakeholderism, as we know it, which is exactly the opposite of >what is sold as its primary value, being bottom up. And this precisely >sums up what is wrong with multistakeholderism as a new post-democratic >political device or institution... parminder Well, not that simple since (most) directors are chosen by the stakeholder groups. The Nominating Committee* is composed of several non-voting liaisons plus voting delegates from the GNSO, specifically one from the Registries Stakeholder Group, one from the Registry SG, two from the business constituency, and so on (ccNSO, etc), all detailed in Article VII of the ICANN by-laws. https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/governance/bylaws-en/#VII So the composite groups (GNSO and SGs, etc) get to choose their masters. Plus some directors are chosen by supporting organizations such as the ASO, IETF, etc by their own process. I suppose a further analysis would be how those individuals who end up on the Nominating Committee are selected, etc. * A bit of a misnomer, they don't nominate really in the sense that some other process actually chooses directors, the Nominating Committee selects directors. -- -Barry Shein The World | bzs at TheWorld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 800-THE-WRLD | Dial-Up: US, PR, Canada Software Tool & Die | Public Access Internet | SINCE 1989 *oo* From anriette at apc.org Fri May 22 03:43:22 2015 From: anriette at apc.org (Anriette Esterhuysen) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 09:43:22 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Public interest and multi-stakeholder participation, was Re: Call for Participation: Global Congress .. In-Reply-To: <555E443A.9060409@softwarefreedom.org> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <55595C42.9050706@itforchange.net> <555C5C6A.5020606@apc.org> <307713677.20109.1432127727119.JavaMail.www@wwinf1m20> <555C9D13.7030803@apc.org> <240F45B0-9EAC-442A-B698-A09C0239C59B@gmail.com> <555E443A.9060409@softwarefreedom.org> Message-ID: <555EDE1A.70104@apc.org> Dear Mishi This is very helpful. Would be good if people can share definitions from their own jurisdictions. Anriette On 21/05/2015 22:46, Mishi Choudhary wrote: > Thanks Bill! This will be useful. Different jurisdictions talk about the > term differently. > > In Black's Law Dictionary "public interest" is defined as follows: > > Public Interest something in which the public, or some interest by which > their legal rights or liabilities are affected. It does not mean > anything the particular localities, which may be affected by the matters > in question. Interest shared by national government > > > > I can remember long discussions about this term during an important > education related case in India on which I worked at the turn of this > century. Herein below, I quote: > > > "Public interest means those interest which concern the public at large. > Matter of public interest 'does not mean that which is interesting as > gratifying curiosity or love of information or amusement; but that in > which a class of the community have a pecuniary interest, or some > interest by which their legal rights or liabilities are affected' (per > Campbell, CJ., R. v. Bedfordshire, 4E and B, 541, 542). > > > The expression 'public interest' is not capable of > precise definition and has not a rigid meaning and is elastic and takes > its colours from the statute in which it occurs, the concept varying > with the time and state for society and its needs. Thus what is 'public > interest' today may not be so considered a decade later. > > > On 05/21/2015 08:42 AM, William Drake wrote: >> Hi >> >> In light of this discussion, I thought I’d bring to peoples' attention this workshop to be held at the IGF meeting in Brazil in November: >> >> No. 52 The Global “Public Interest” in Critical Internet Resources >> http://intgovforum.org/cms/wks2015/index.php/proposal/view_public/52 >> >> Would be happy to see folks and continue the conversation there. >> >> Best >> >> Bill >> >>> On May 20, 2015, at 7:20 PM, George Sadowsky wrote: >>> >>> This is one of the best expositions of the multi-stakeholder model and the importance of the orientation toward the global public interest that I have ever seen. Thank you, Anriette. >>> >>> In some quarters, multi-stakeholderism has almost become a religion, to be accepted on faith, with doubters shunned and excluded. IMO this is counterproductive both to understanding the possibilities of multi-stakeholderism and to employing when it is the right model to use. As Annette implies, there are all sorts of implementations of multi-stakeholderism, some where people come together on an equal footing, some not. Multi-stakeholder organizations are a means for achieving a goal, and it's the nature of the goal that affects who are to be considered the stakeholders and how they should be included in the multi-stakeholder process. The goal is the important element, and determines the means. >>> >>> I like Annette's discussion of the public interest, and how it opens a debate. >>> >>> Multi-stakehoder processes exist because there are competing interests at play. The hope is that this form of organization will be effective in producing a least unacceptable output across the set of stakeholders. Different stakeholders will naturally claim that their point of view is the best, and Annette's requirement that they define their view of the public interest and then state why their approach best serves it. Shedding this kind of light on a decision is likely to produce one of the better outcomes possible. >>> >>> Thank you again, Annette. >>> >>> George >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> >>> On May 20, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Jean-Louis >>>> >>>> I don't personally use the 'equal footing' term. Configuration of >>>> participation depends on the issue being discussed and accountability >>>> involved. The term equal footing creates unnecessary confusion and can >>>> be interpreted as saying that government and public sector actors don't >>>> have an important role or specific responsibilities. It can also be abused. >>>> >>>> If one is developing a national action plan on local content creation >>>> having all different stakeholders involved 'equally' would be good, but >>>> I would want to see particularly strong participation of people from >>>> libraries, arts and culture and education ministries, content and >>>> creative industries and so on. I would like to see large entertainment >>>> companies, but also small independent producers and film makers, writers >>>> and artists and people from cultural minorities. >>>> >>>> I would be concerned if government or big business had a louder voice in >>>> this discussion than other stakeholders, as that might end up silencing >>>> some voices, and reducing diversity of views. But that does not mean >>>> that we don't need to hear from government, or from big business. >>>> Although I would hope they use the opportunity to listen, not just speak. >>>> >>>> If it is a decision about how to tax global internet companies they >>>> should have a voice in the pre-policy consultation process, but they >>>> should not be making the decision. That is a decision that needs to be >>>> made - transparently - by governments and intergovernmental >>>> institutions. I would like civil society to be involved in this and I >>>> would like public-interest economists to give input, and for the media >>>> to be present so that we have more transparency. And I would like the >>>> tax collection agencies to speak too.... as they know whether compliance >>>> is likely to take place or not. >>>> >>>> On public interest.. for me the power of this concept is that it opens a >>>> debate. It forces a discussion on what the broadest possible public >>>> interest is. Just having a room full of different stakeholders will >>>> bring you diversity, but they might just all talk about what it is >>>> matters most to them as interest or stakeholder groups. So governments >>>> might talk about national security, operators about intermediary >>>> liability, civil society about freedom of expression... >>>> >>>> ...but if the obligation of the discussion is to serve the broadest >>>> possible public interest they must all make the case of WHY the position >>>> they are advocating for will serve that interest, and state how they >>>> understand the public interest. >>>> >>>> And one should not make assumptions about who will argue for what. E.g >>>> in some countries at present, small private sector content producers are >>>> much more concerned with having a publicly funded public broadcaster >>>> than government is. To assume that governments are in all cases the most >>>> reliable custodians of the 'public interest' is wishful thinking. >>>> >>>> Perhaps I am being naive, but in my view having a public-interest >>>> orientation makes a big difference. And that is why I was so pleased >>>> when the NETmundial statement said that internet governance should be in >>>> the public interest. >>>> >>>> It defines a common purpose, and a common measure - even if there will >>>> still be different views of what serves the public interest best. >>>> >>>> I often say to telecom regulators - am actually in an event with African >>>> regulators this minute - that their role is not primarily to balance >>>> interests among operators - their role is to protect and promote the >>>> interest of users/consumers/the public. >>>> >>>> Jean-Louis, I will not be in Geneva, but from APC there will be Shawna >>>> Finnegan from APC staff for part of it, and Aida Mahmutovic who is on >>>> APC's member council, representing our member in Bosnia-Herzegovina. >>>> >>>> Warm greetings >>>> >>>> Anriette >>>> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >> > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > From anriette at apc.org Fri May 22 03:46:30 2015 From: anriette at apc.org (Anriette Esterhuysen) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 09:46:30 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] Post-2015 agenda: 26-27 May UN General Assembly interactive hearings (will be web cast) In-Reply-To: <1121144349770.1114497358550.621.0.231515JL.1002@scheduler.constantcontact.com> References: <1121144349770.1114497358550.621.0.231515JL.1002@scheduler.constantcontact.com> Message-ID: <555EDED6.9010202@apc.org> Dear all For those of us that are working on the post-2015 development agenda. Who will be there in person? Anriette http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?ca=cbf5a081-f78c-46db-b15c-933947ca11e2&c=07796770-ac43-11e3-ba27-d4ae528440e0&ch=0858f200-ac43-11e3-ba7c-d4ae528440e0 From wjdrake at gmail.com Fri May 22 04:45:02 2015 From: wjdrake at gmail.com (William Drake) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 10:45:02 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Public interest and multi-stakeholder participation, was Re: Call for Participation: Global Congress .. In-Reply-To: <555EDE1A.70104@apc.org> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <55595C42.9050706@itforchange.net> <555C5C6A.5020606@apc.org> <307713677.20109.1432127727119.JavaMail.www@wwinf1m20> <555C9D13.7030803@apc.org> <240F45B0-9EAC-442A-B698-A09C0239C59B@gmail.com> <555E443A.9060409@softwarefreedom.org> <555EDE1A.70104@apc.org> Message-ID: <64F57A69-8E56-472B-8D8E-861D32429FCD@gmail.com> Hello Yes, it would be extremely useful to compile info on how the public interest and similar concepts have been dealt with in different countries, legal systems, and languages. I’ve pointed this out several times in various ICANN discussions but I’ve seen no indication yet that this will be taken on board in the effort mandated by the current strategic plan to devise a ‘consensus definition’ specific to ICANN’s operations. It’d be problematic if the only source material considered is drawn from e.g. US domestic telecom regulation. It’d also be problematic if the promised community dialogue on the matter actually turns out to be staff/board-controlled process. That’d be another easily avoidable misstep but there are alas precedents and thus far there are no clear signs to the contrary. Hence the workshop proposal is an attempt to encourage an open dialogue, one that goes beyond people engaged in the ICANN environment. Of course, a broad debate could easily turn into an indeterminate mess. Even within ICANN civil society, the debates thus far have revealed strong disagreement about whether we should even try to think this through. Some people maintain that the term is so vague and intrinsically undefinable that any deeper discussion will simply be captured by powerful commercial interests or governments. They point to the so-called Public Interest Commitments that have been incorporated into contracts which sometimes include excessive intellectual property protections, and to Government Advisory Committee efforts to limit strings ‘in the public interest,’ as evidence that abusive appropriations of the term are inevitable. Others argue that it is the very lack of any shared understanding that invites such abuse, and insofar as the concept is already being cited as a rationale in various international instruments, trying to at least bound if not precisely define it before we throw our hands up is worth the effort. And that’s just civil society—once all the other parties start to weigh in with their preferred formulations, the divisions will presumably deepen and become more complex. It may be worth recalling that ten years ago a lot of people argued we could never arrive at a consensual definition of Internet governance. Governments and stakeholders were advancing preferred definitions that happened to suit their respective material and ideational interests, and the WSIS process was looking likely to end in a train wreck. Whether we could have concluded the Tunis Agenda without at least a working definition of the core point of contention is an interesting question. Best Bill > On May 22, 2015, at 9:43 AM, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote: > > Dear Mishi > > This is very helpful. Would be good if people can share definitions from > their own jurisdictions. > > Anriette > > > On 21/05/2015 22:46, Mishi Choudhary wrote: >> Thanks Bill! This will be useful. Different jurisdictions talk about the >> term differently. >> >> In Black's Law Dictionary "public interest" is defined as follows: >> >> Public Interest something in which the public, or some interest by which >> their legal rights or liabilities are affected. It does not mean >> anything the particular localities, which may be affected by the matters >> in question. Interest shared by national government >> >> >> >> I can remember long discussions about this term during an important >> education related case in India on which I worked at the turn of this >> century. Herein below, I quote: >> >> >> "Public interest means those interest which concern the public at large. >> Matter of public interest 'does not mean that which is interesting as >> gratifying curiosity or love of information or amusement; but that in >> which a class of the community have a pecuniary interest, or some >> interest by which their legal rights or liabilities are affected' (per >> Campbell, CJ., R. v. Bedfordshire, 4E and B, 541, 542). >> >> >> The expression 'public interest' is not capable of >> precise definition and has not a rigid meaning and is elastic and takes >> its colours from the statute in which it occurs, the concept varying >> with the time and state for society and its needs. Thus what is 'public >> interest' today may not be so considered a decade later. >> >> >> On 05/21/2015 08:42 AM, William Drake wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> In light of this discussion, I thought I’d bring to peoples' attention this workshop to be held at the IGF meeting in Brazil in November: >>> >>> No. 52 The Global “Public Interest” in Critical Internet Resources >>> http://intgovforum.org/cms/wks2015/index.php/proposal/view_public/52 >>> >>> Would be happy to see folks and continue the conversation there. >>> >>> Best >>> >>> Bill >>> >>>> On May 20, 2015, at 7:20 PM, George Sadowsky wrote: >>>> >>>> This is one of the best expositions of the multi-stakeholder model and the importance of the orientation toward the global public interest that I have ever seen. Thank you, Anriette. >>>> >>>> In some quarters, multi-stakeholderism has almost become a religion, to be accepted on faith, with doubters shunned and excluded. IMO this is counterproductive both to understanding the possibilities of multi-stakeholderism and to employing when it is the right model to use. As Annette implies, there are all sorts of implementations of multi-stakeholderism, some where people come together on an equal footing, some not. Multi-stakeholder organizations are a means for achieving a goal, and it's the nature of the goal that affects who are to be considered the stakeholders and how they should be included in the multi-stakeholder process. The goal is the important element, and determines the means. >>>> >>>> I like Annette's discussion of the public interest, and how it opens a debate. >>>> >>>> Multi-stakehoder processes exist because there are competing interests at play. The hope is that this form of organization will be effective in producing a least unacceptable output across the set of stakeholders. Different stakeholders will naturally claim that their point of view is the best, and Annette's requirement that they define their view of the public interest and then state why their approach best serves it. Shedding this kind of light on a decision is likely to produce one of the better outcomes possible. >>>> >>>> Thank you again, Annette. >>>> >>>> George >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 20, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Jean-Louis >>>>> >>>>> I don't personally use the 'equal footing' term. Configuration of >>>>> participation depends on the issue being discussed and accountability >>>>> involved. The term equal footing creates unnecessary confusion and can >>>>> be interpreted as saying that government and public sector actors don't >>>>> have an important role or specific responsibilities. It can also be abused. >>>>> >>>>> If one is developing a national action plan on local content creation >>>>> having all different stakeholders involved 'equally' would be good, but >>>>> I would want to see particularly strong participation of people from >>>>> libraries, arts and culture and education ministries, content and >>>>> creative industries and so on. I would like to see large entertainment >>>>> companies, but also small independent producers and film makers, writers >>>>> and artists and people from cultural minorities. >>>>> >>>>> I would be concerned if government or big business had a louder voice in >>>>> this discussion than other stakeholders, as that might end up silencing >>>>> some voices, and reducing diversity of views. But that does not mean >>>>> that we don't need to hear from government, or from big business. >>>>> Although I would hope they use the opportunity to listen, not just speak. >>>>> >>>>> If it is a decision about how to tax global internet companies they >>>>> should have a voice in the pre-policy consultation process, but they >>>>> should not be making the decision. That is a decision that needs to be >>>>> made - transparently - by governments and intergovernmental >>>>> institutions. I would like civil society to be involved in this and I >>>>> would like public-interest economists to give input, and for the media >>>>> to be present so that we have more transparency. And I would like the >>>>> tax collection agencies to speak too.... as they know whether compliance >>>>> is likely to take place or not. >>>>> >>>>> On public interest.. for me the power of this concept is that it opens a >>>>> debate. It forces a discussion on what the broadest possible public >>>>> interest is. Just having a room full of different stakeholders will >>>>> bring you diversity, but they might just all talk about what it is >>>>> matters most to them as interest or stakeholder groups. So governments >>>>> might talk about national security, operators about intermediary >>>>> liability, civil society about freedom of expression... >>>>> >>>>> ...but if the obligation of the discussion is to serve the broadest >>>>> possible public interest they must all make the case of WHY the position >>>>> they are advocating for will serve that interest, and state how they >>>>> understand the public interest. >>>>> >>>>> And one should not make assumptions about who will argue for what. E.g >>>>> in some countries at present, small private sector content producers are >>>>> much more concerned with having a publicly funded public broadcaster >>>>> than government is. To assume that governments are in all cases the most >>>>> reliable custodians of the 'public interest' is wishful thinking. >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps I am being naive, but in my view having a public-interest >>>>> orientation makes a big difference. And that is why I was so pleased >>>>> when the NETmundial statement said that internet governance should be in >>>>> the public interest. >>>>> >>>>> It defines a common purpose, and a common measure - even if there will >>>>> still be different views of what serves the public interest best. >>>>> >>>>> I often say to telecom regulators - am actually in an event with African >>>>> regulators this minute - that their role is not primarily to balance >>>>> interests among operators - their role is to protect and promote the >>>>> interest of users/consumers/the public. >>>>> >>>>> Jean-Louis, I will not be in Geneva, but from APC there will be Shawna >>>>> Finnegan from APC staff for part of it, and Aida Mahmutovic who is on >>>>> APC's member council, representing our member in Bosnia-Herzegovina. >>>>> >>>>> Warm greetings >>>>> >>>>> Anriette >>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >>> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >>> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >> > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits ********************************************************* William J. 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URL: From parminder at itforchange.net Sat May 23 03:32:42 2015 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 13:02:42 +0530 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: <555B7D35.2030303@apc.org> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> <555B3194.6020509@itforchange.net> <555B6A0A.7000504@eff.org> <555B7D35.2030303@apc.org> Message-ID: <55602D1A.3070009@itforchange.net> On Tuesday 19 May 2015 11:43 PM, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote: > Dear all > > I am writing against my better judgement, but here goes anyway. Dear Anriette Allow me to refocus on the real issues raised in my email that you respond to. Your email seems to give an impression that I have shown scant regard to the importance of the global congress on IP and public interest. Whereas quite to the contrary I stated it as a role model for how civil society should be devoted to addressing public interest with regard to global Internet governance. In fact some JNC members suggested that the Internet Social Forum be held at the same time (before or after) in India as this congress bec so many progressive actors in a closely allied area will be in Delhi. However, time may be short to consider this proposal seriously. But this tells clearly what I and JNC thinks of the global congress on IP and public interest, and thus lets get over that particular hump, which in my view, is a red herring. > The Global Congress on IP has been one of the most important spaces were > radical civil society has mobilised and strategised against some of the > most problematic US-government lead initiatives with regard to impact on > access to knowledge in recent years - ACTA and TPP. My question is; where is such a 'radical civil society', as you speak of, in the IG space? Is this question not worth asking and considering? When was a similar global congress held in the global IG space, especially when no other area can even come close to IG in the number of global meetings that are held. Why no global congress - or rather a dedicated series of them - of 'radical civil society' exploring public interest in IG and giving strong relevant and actionable recommendations as have emerged from such congresses in the IP area. To put it another, positive, way: why dont we get together to hold a conference on IG and public interest, in a similar way as that on IP, with a similar structure (i strongly believe that structure is related to, even determines, the content, on which more later) ... This is a real and serious proposal, and as I said earlier some of us have been thinking on these lines for some time. I am happy whoever takes a lead on it. APC? Any others? > I have only ever been an observer at the Global Congress (when it was in > Cape Town in 2013) but have always learnt a lot, and I really value the > work that this community does in WIPO among other spaces. In Africa the > Global Congress has collaborated with projects such as the African > Access to Knowledge project.. people that we have done really important > work with, and who have influenced intellectual property legislation > positively. They work with groups such as councils for the blind and > visually impaired, and the library community. People that we need in > internet governance spaces if we want to build movement for social > justice in internet governance. Exactly.... Check out JNC membership, you will find the list full of such progressive groups, and even more are joining the Internet Social Forum. Bringing on board such public interest group only takes place within certain structures, and is not independent of the structure. I think this should be obvious. > I find it extremely disappointing and distressing that the debate in > this thread is not about substantial issues that the Global Congress > will address, but about whether it is 'multistakeholder' or not - You seem to contend that the nature and treatment of substantial issues is (at least, largely) independent on the 'structure' of such assemblages or meetings. My contention, on the contrary, is that content and structure are very closely related. So, please do not get disappointed and distressed just because such a view is presented. A very many civil society people and groups hold such a view - see for instance the charter of the World Social Forum, especially the participation criteria. And why, of course, if you take a studied look at the structure of the congresses on IP and public interest, the content-structure connection will be clear. Just look at the Washington Declaration on IP and Public Interest. .. Can we with any degree of honesty claim that such a declaration can come out of a multistakeholder space...No it cannot, and it is for this reason that we need to cultivate 'radical civil society' spaces, which can happen only when we learn to build certain distance from the big Internet corporates. What I see however is quite the contrary - and the trend seems to be consolidating. The civil society preparatory meeting before the recent UNESCO meeting was held in the premises of International Chambers of Commerce, back to back with a multistakeholder meeting... In any other global civil society area today, this is completely unthinkable (please do correct me if I am wrong). Even more recently, I see a letter floating around about opening up the WSIS plus 10 process (a very good objective other than the fact that most groups promoting it worked against opening it up when the real fight was on in the UN GA, but whatever...) . This letter seem to have been prepared by some CS groups along with ICC and ISOC before bringing this issue to the CS spaces.... Such things you know.. > evolving into yet another set of assertions that everyone who supports > the notion of multistakeholder in ANY sense at all is by definition > coopted by empire. Your statement is of course largely rhetorical - but I do say that with corporates sitting and participating on equal footing you will never get the right conceptions of public interest. This is precisely why you do not see the participation of important IP stakeholders - like the big pharma and agri companies - in these congresses on IP and public interest. I dont understand why should you object when I just posit this illuminating comparison. And it is not only in this area where public interest groups have kept clear of corporations in developing spaces aimed at addressing public interest, and coming up with immediate and long term political strategies and actions that are needed in pursuance of public interest. Last week's IP Watch provided a link to this article with a telling title " Did the WHO just invite corporates to set health policy? Did the WHO just invite corporates to set health policy? - See more at: http://www.thenewsminute.com/article/did-who-just-invite-corporates-set-health-policy#sthash.ISr8p1Cd.kYDf1NaM.dpufxxxxxxxxxx Did the WHO just invite corporates to set health policy? - See more at: http://www.thenewsminute.com/article/did-who-just-invite-corporates-set-health-policy#sthash.ISr8p1Cd.kYDf1NaM.dpuf " And a quote from it " During a preliminary discussion many countries in Africa, Latin America, Brazil and India cautioned against passing the resolution that will allow companies to enter the policy setting stadium. " Such opposition to corporate invasion of policy spaces is taking place in many other areas as well - climate change, agriculture, etc..... Why then such almost violent resistance to speaking against corporatist multistakeholderism in the IG space? I note your use of term 'disappointing and distressing' and then a immediate follow through of some plus ones. Please tell me, all of you, why should IG space censor such talk and raising of this category of issues when it is one of the key and hottest topics in all other global civil society spaces? (If Internet and IG is indeed so different to justify it, my earlier email did invite a discussion on what could be the basis of such Internet-exceptionalism, but then instead of coming up with points and arguments I just see what I termed as somewhat violent resistance.) During a preliminary discussion many countries in Africa, Latin America, Brazil and India cautioned against passing the resolution that will allow companies to enter the policy setting stadium. - See more at: http://www.thenewsminute.com/article/did-who-just-invite-corporates-set-health-policy#sthash.ISr8p1Cd.kYDf1NaM.dpuf > Why not write about substantive issues, and about how to pursue a social > justice agenda around the issues that are internet-related that the > Global Congress will address? I am never short on substantive issues, and in fact I wonder how many documents issued from most dominant CS grouping in IG spaces have largely just said, lets promote multistakeholderism....Anyway, my point here is, I firmly believe that content (substantive issues) is directly linked to substance, as, say, true development is linked to democracy (Amartya Sen). For anyone to insist on talking about content while resisting discussions on the structure of the political space whose content is implied is simply, allow me to say, highly politically naive. I and the groups I work with want to be politically effective and upfront, and therefore always give adequate importance to the structure of the political space of global IG. So sorry, you are far from stopping to hear about issues and problems with corporatist multistakeholderism, and our continued 'disappointment and distress' at how many CS groups want to completely avoid such issues. Best regards , parminder > > Anriette > > > > On 19/05/2015 18:51, Jeremy Malcolm wrote: >> On 19/05/2015 5:50 am, parminder wrote: >>> Coming to the context of the series of congresses on 'Intellectual >>> property and public interest', here is the list of participants >>> of >>> the 2011 Congress . Just one big business participant - Google among >>> scores and scores others. And none in program committee, or among the >>> hosing group or funders (except one, again Google, which is certainly >>> an oddity, perhaps explainable but wont go there right now) . No way >>> to me this looks like a multistakeholder or MS conference, as we have >>> come to understand the term in the Internet governance space. >> Apples and oranges; the Global Congress on IP and the Public Interest >> never purported to be a multi-stakeholder event; it is closer to a Best >> Bits meeting or your Internet Social Forum, both of which are civil >> society only, than it is to something like the IGF. >> >> -- >> Jeremy Malcolm >> Senior Global Policy Analyst >> Electronic Frontier Foundation >> https://eff.org >> jmalcolm at eff.org >> >> Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161 >> >> :: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World :: >> >> Public key: https://www.eff.org/files/2014/10/09/key_jmalcolm.txt >> PGP fingerprint: FF13 C2E9 F9C3 DF54 7C4F EAC1 F675 AAE2 D2AB 2220 >> OTR fingerprint: 26EE FD85 3740 8228 9460 49A8 536F BCD2 536F A5BD >> >> Learn how to encrypt your email with the Email Self Defense guide: >> https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Nomcom also does selection for other positions within ICANN like ALAC, GNSO et all Cheers! > > -- > -Barry Shein > > The World | bzs at TheWorld.com | > http://www.TheWorld.com > Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 800-THE-WRLD | Dial-Up: US, PR, > Canada > Software Tool & Die | Public Access Internet | SINCE 1989 *oo* > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Seun Ojedeji,Federal University Oye-Ekitiweb: http://www.fuoye.edu.ng Mobile: +2348035233535**alt email: seun.ojedeji at fuoye.edu.ng * The key to understanding is humility - my view ! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, —Claudio Ruiz derechosdigitales.org | @claudio PGP fingerprint C40E 0C6E E7B2 FA91 D8A9 1FC4 74D2 5C4D B603 D089 > On 23-05-2015, at 4:32, parminder wrote: > > (…) From nashton at consensus.pro Sat May 23 12:31:14 2015 From: nashton at consensus.pro (Nick Ashton-Hart) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 18:31:14 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: <9941F756-12FA-4722-AE25-D40C8EB8E7B1@derechosdigitales.org> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> <555B3194.6020509@itforchange.net> <555B6A0A.7000504@eff.org> <555B7D35.2030303@apc.org> <55602D1A.3070009@itforchange.net> <9941F756-12FA-4722-AE25-D40C8EB8E7B1@derechosdigitales.org> Message-ID: <080EAD77-A6DB-4916-BFA3-665A2B2C6385@consensus.pro> +1 > On 23 May 2015, at 17:42, Claudio Ruiz wrote: > > With all due respect, I don’t have the time neither the energy of answering a 1,500 words email. > Happy to engage in long discussions face to face or with a beer. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 670 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From parminder at itforchange.net Sat May 23 13:24:12 2015 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 22:54:12 +0530 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: <080EAD77-A6DB-4916-BFA3-665A2B2C6385@consensus.pro> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> <555B3194.6020509@itforchange.net> <555B6A0A.7000504@eff.org> <555B7D35.2030303@apc.org> <55602D1A.3070009@itforchange.net> <9941F756-12FA-4722-AE25-D40C8EB8E7B1@derechosdigitales.org> <080EAD77-A6DB-4916-BFA3-665A2B2C6385@consensus.pro> Message-ID: <5560B7BC.3020507@itforchange.net> On Saturday 23 May 2015 10:01 PM, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote: > +1 Not sure what you are plus-one-ing to, Nick, but if indeed you want to make a spectacle of it, well fine by me... I was trying a reasoned discussion on what kind of civil society spaces we need to promote public interest but you dont seem to be wanting any of it. You are baying for blood, so as to say. So, let me ask you, since you are dispensing gratuitous advice on what should be the nature of civil society, and indeed what is an ok subject to discuss on the bestbits list, are you a civil society member. Just a direct question for self identification . Last time I checked BestBits was a civil society coalition, and while it may be so that we may not really be too fussy about people observing proceedings and also maybe sometimes do a post or too, but you are actually telling how bestbits group should conduct its business, and I also have seem numerous comments of a similar kind about the IGC list. Thanks for the information, and no offense personally. Your example is quite a good and live one for my discussion on the problematic construction of civil society spaces in the IG area. I would have tried to not directly talk about it, just not to hurt anyone, but since you are pushing the issue hard I dont think I need to have any of such qualms. Have a good day! parminder > >> On 23 May 2015, at 17:42, Claudio Ruiz wrote: >> >> With all due respect, I don’t have the time neither the energy of answering a 1,500 words email. >> Happy to engage in long discussions face to face or with a beer. Not by email in a mailing list. That’s the whole point, at the end. >> >> Cheers, >> >> —Claudio Ruiz >> derechosdigitales.org | @claudio >> PGP fingerprint >> C40E 0C6E E7B2 FA91 D8A9 1FC4 74D2 5C4D B603 D089 >> >>> On 23-05-2015, at 4:32, parminder wrote: >>> >>> (…) >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nashton at consensus.pro Sat May 23 13:49:51 2015 From: nashton at consensus.pro (Nick Ashton-Hart) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 19:49:51 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: <5560B7BC.3020507@itforchange.net> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> <555B3194.6020509@itforchange.net> <555B6A0A.7000504@eff.org> <555B7D35.2030303@apc.org> <55602D1A.3070009@itforchange.net> <9941F756-12FA-4722-AE25-D40C8EB8E7B1@derechosdigitales.org> <080EAD77-A6DB-4916-BFA3-665A2B2C6385@consensus.pro> <5560B7BC.3020507@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <14d81e52e30.27d1.9387b8a9f30986f905fcc4cfa238b71f@consensus.pro> Dear Parminder, nobody can stop you from assuming the worst, but that doesn't make it true. Candidly, it does increase the overall hostility on the list, which seems to me the opposite of what this liat needs. As to your question, which has been asked and answered before several times in different forms in this list and the ICC list too, yes I am. Even more so given my present professional post ends in a few days at the end of this month. On 23 May 2015 19:24:46 parminder wrote: > > > On Saturday 23 May 2015 10:01 PM, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote: > > +1 > > Not sure what you are plus-one-ing to, Nick, but if indeed you want to > make a spectacle of it, well fine by me... I was trying a reasoned > discussion on what kind of civil society spaces we need to promote > public interest but you dont seem to be wanting any of it. You are > baying for blood, so as to say. > > So, let me ask you, since you are dispensing gratuitous advice on what > should be the nature of civil society, and indeed what is an ok subject > to discuss on the bestbits list, are you a civil society member. Just a > direct question for self identification . Last time I checked BestBits > was a civil society coalition, and while it may be so that we may not > really be too fussy about people observing proceedings and also maybe > sometimes do a post or too, but you are actually telling how bestbits > group should conduct its business, and I also have seem numerous > comments of a similar kind about the IGC list. > > Thanks for the information, and no offense personally. Your example is > quite a good and live one for my discussion on the problematic > construction of civil society spaces in the IG area. I would have tried > to not directly talk about it, just not to hurt anyone, but since you > are pushing the issue hard I dont think I need to have any of such qualms. > > Have a good day! > > parminder > > > >> On 23 May 2015, at 17:42, Claudio Ruiz > wrote: > >> > >> With all due respect, I don’t have the time neither the energy of > answering a 1,500 words email. > >> Happy to engage in long discussions face to face or with a beer. Not by > email in a mailing list. That’s the whole point, at the end. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> —Claudio Ruiz > >> derechosdigitales.org | @claudio > >> PGP fingerprint > >> C40E 0C6E E7B2 FA91 D8A9 1FC4 74D2 5C4D B603 D089 > >> > >>> On 23-05-2015, at 4:32, parminder wrote: > >>> > >>> (…) > >> ____________________________________________________________ > >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From parminder at itforchange.net Sat May 23 14:19:13 2015 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 23:49:13 +0530 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: <14d81e52e30.27d1.9387b8a9f30986f905fcc4cfa238b71f@consensus.pro> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> <555B3194.6020509@itforchange.net> <555B6A0A.7000504@eff.org> <555B7D35.2030303@apc.org> <55602D1A.3070009@itforchange.net> <9941F756-12FA-4722-AE25-D40C8EB8E7B1@derechosdigitales.org> <080EAD77-A6DB-4916-BFA3-665A2B2C6385@consensus.pro> <5560B7BC.3020507@itforchange.net> <14d81e52e30.27d1.9387b8a9f30986f905fcc4cfa238b71f@consensus.pro> Message-ID: <5560C4A1.6010306@itforchange.net> On Saturday 23 May 2015 11:19 PM, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote: > > Dear Parminder, nobody can stop you from assuming the worst, but that > doesn't make it true. Candidly, it does increase the overall hostility > on the list, which seems to me the opposite of what this liat needs. > > As to your question, which has been asked and answered before several > times in different forms in this list and the ICC list too, yes I am. > Even more so given my present professional post ends in a few days at > the end of this month. > Dear Nick, I am asking your present affiliation, about which I am still not clear from the above. Even President Obama can claim he is civil society person with a right to intervene in civil society procedural discussions but then that would be odd, and unacceptable, isnt it.... (And think of Obama trying to justify it by saying that he is going to lay down office quite soon!) The website of your organisation IDEA, whose composition, purpose and funding, I still do not yet understand, currently lists you - apparently its only staff member - as ' Nick Ashton-Hart is the senior permanent representative of the technology sector to the UN, its member-states, and the international organisations in Geneva'. I am not sure if IDEA can be considered as a civil society organisation with its only staff being the rep of the tech industry sector.... Really more than a bit funny, I must say. Let me tell you, any worthwhile civil society group I know would find all this as extremely odd, and unacceptable. This strange normlessness and corporate-friendly promiscuity in the IG civil society is exactly what my earlier email was talking about. It is this which does not allow global IG CS to develop the right conceptions of public interest in global IG, much less let it fight forcefully for it. I and groups I work with consider it an extremly important issue in our civil society work, and would keep taking it up forcefully. Best, parminder > On 23 May 2015 19:24:46 parminder wrote: > >> >> >> On Saturday 23 May 2015 10:01 PM, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote: >>> +1 >> >> Not sure what you are plus-one-ing to, Nick, but if indeed you want >> to make a spectacle of it, well fine by me... I was trying a reasoned >> discussion on what kind of civil society spaces we need to promote >> public interest but you dont seem to be wanting any of it. You are >> baying for blood, so as to say. >> >> So, let me ask you, since you are dispensing gratuitous advice on >> what should be the nature of civil society, and indeed what is an ok >> subject to discuss on the bestbits list, are you a civil society >> member. Just a direct question for self identification . Last time I >> checked BestBits was a civil society coalition, and while it may be >> so that we may not really be too fussy about people observing >> proceedings and also maybe sometimes do a post or too, but you are >> actually telling how bestbits group should conduct its business, and >> I also have seem numerous comments of a similar kind about the IGC list. >> >> Thanks for the information, and no offense personally. Your example >> is quite a good and live one for my discussion on the problematic >> construction of civil society spaces in the IG area. I would have >> tried to not directly talk about it, just not to hurt anyone, but >> since you are pushing the issue hard I dont think I need to have any >> of such qualms. >> >> Have a good day! >> >> parminder >>>> On 23 May 2015, at 17:42, Claudio Ruiz >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> With all due respect, I don’t have the time neither the energy of answering >>>> a 1,500 words email. >>>> Happy to engage in long discussions face to face or with a beer. Not by >>>> email in a mailing list. That’s the whole point, at the end. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> —Claudio Ruiz >>>> derechosdigitales.org | @claudio >>>> PGP fingerprint >>>> C40E 0C6E E7B2 FA91 D8A9 1FC4 74D2 5C4D B603 D089 >>>> >>>>> On 23-05-2015, at 4:32, parminder >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> (…) >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >>>> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >>> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >> > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nashton at consensus.pro Sat May 23 14:37:32 2015 From: nashton at consensus.pro (Nick Ashton-Hart) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 20:37:32 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: <5560C4A1.6010306@itforchange.net> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> <555B3194.6020509@itforchange.net> <555B6A0A.7000504@eff.org> <555B7D35.2030303@apc.org> <55602D1A.3070009@itforchange.net> <9941F756-12FA-4722-AE25-D40C8EB8E7B1@derechosdigitales.org> <080EAD77-A6DB-4916-BFA3-665A2B2C6385@consensus.pro> <5560B7BC.3020507@itforchange.net> <14d81e52e30.27d1.9387b8a9f30986f905fcc4cfa238b71f@consensus.pro> <5560C4A1.6010306@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <14d8210ca40.2758.9387b8a9f30986f905fcc4cfa238b71f@consensus.pro> Parminder, to be honest, this dialogue to me exemplifies the problems with the dialogue here. You've known me for many years and the positions I routinely take. We have had this conversation before, I won't burden this list with a rerun. I won't be replying further on this subject. Life's too short. On 23 May 2015 8:19:49 pm parminder wrote: > On Saturday 23 May 2015 11:19 PM, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote: > > > > Dear Parminder, nobody can stop you from assuming the worst, but that > > doesn't make it true. Candidly, it does increase the overall hostility > > on the list, which seems to me the opposite of what this liat needs. > > > > As to your question, which has been asked and answered before several > > times in different forms in this list and the ICC list too, yes I am. > > Even more so given my present professional post ends in a few days at > > the end of this month. > > > > Dear Nick, > > I am asking your present affiliation, about which I am still not clear > from the above. Even President Obama can claim he is civil society > person with a right to intervene in civil society procedural discussions > but then that would be odd, and unacceptable, isnt it.... (And think of > Obama trying to justify it by saying that he is going to lay down office > quite soon!) > > The website of your organisation IDEA, whose composition, purpose and > funding, I still do not yet understand, currently lists you - > apparently its only staff member - as ' Nick Ashton-Hart is the senior > permanent representative of the technology sector to the UN, its > member-states, and the international organisations in Geneva'. I am not > sure if IDEA can be considered as a civil society organisation with its > only staff being the rep of the tech industry sector.... Really more > than a bit funny, I must say. > > Let me tell you, any worthwhile civil society group I know would find > all this as extremely odd, and unacceptable. This strange normlessness > and corporate-friendly promiscuity in the IG civil society is exactly > what my earlier email was talking about. It is this which does not allow > global IG CS to develop the right conceptions of public interest in > global IG, much less let it fight forcefully for it. I and groups I work > with consider it an extremly important issue in our civil society work, > and would keep taking it up forcefully. > > Best, parminder > > > > On 23 May 2015 19:24:46 parminder wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On Saturday 23 May 2015 10:01 PM, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote: > >>> +1 > >> > >> Not sure what you are plus-one-ing to, Nick, but if indeed you want > >> to make a spectacle of it, well fine by me... I was trying a reasoned > >> discussion on what kind of civil society spaces we need to promote > >> public interest but you dont seem to be wanting any of it. You are > >> baying for blood, so as to say. > >> > >> So, let me ask you, since you are dispensing gratuitous advice on > >> what should be the nature of civil society, and indeed what is an ok > >> subject to discuss on the bestbits list, are you a civil society > >> member. Just a direct question for self identification . Last time I > >> checked BestBits was a civil society coalition, and while it may be > >> so that we may not really be too fussy about people observing > >> proceedings and also maybe sometimes do a post or too, but you are > >> actually telling how bestbits group should conduct its business, and > >> I also have seem numerous comments of a similar kind about the IGC list. > >> > >> Thanks for the information, and no offense personally. Your example > >> is quite a good and live one for my discussion on the problematic > >> construction of civil society spaces in the IG area. I would have > >> tried to not directly talk about it, just not to hurt anyone, but > >> since you are pushing the issue hard I dont think I need to have any > >> of such qualms. > >> > >> Have a good day! > >> > >> parminder > >>>> On 23 May 2015, at 17:42, Claudio Ruiz > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> With all due respect, I don’t have the time neither the energy of > answering > >>>> a 1,500 words email. > >>>> Happy to engage in long discussions face to face or with a beer. Not by > >>>> email in a mailing list. That’s the whole point, at the end. > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> > >>>> —Claudio Ruiz > >>>> derechosdigitales.org | @claudio > >>>> PGP fingerprint > >>>> C40E 0C6E E7B2 FA91 D8A9 1FC4 74D2 5C4D B603 D089 > >>>> > >>>>> On 23-05-2015, at 4:32, parminder > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> (…) > >>>> ____________________________________________________________ > >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > >>>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > >>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > >>>> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > >>> > >>> > >>> ____________________________________________________________ > >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > >>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > >>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > >>> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > >> > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > > > ---------- > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roberta.lentz at mcgill.ca Sat May 23 18:41:54 2015 From: roberta.lentz at mcgill.ca (Becky Lentz) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 18:41:54 -0400 Subject: [bestbits] re thread on Call for Participation: Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest, 2015 In-Reply-To: <5560BB17.1050805@itforchange.net> References: <5560BB17.1050805@itforchange.net> Message-ID: The World Social Forum is coming to Montreal in August 2016 and I¹m involved with others in discussions to consider McGill as an anglophone university partner along with the francophone Université du Québec à Montréal (UQAM), the goal being to build an important cultural bridge/corridor in what often feels like a divided city. The Forum might offer an opportunity to consider working to build a similar bridge between approaches to civil society participation in IG, i.e., to organize a civil society convergence/workshop/encuentro, etc. on IG, similar to what Parminder might be suggesting. Except on occasion, media/internet/telecommunications/technology/autonomous media and related policy issues have not been featured prominently at the Forum, but they could/should be (exceptions include F/OSS, with FOSS being analogous to the WSF format of knowledge exchange (http://stephanecouture.info/fichiers/2013_Juris_Caruso_Couture,_Mosca_FLOSS _WSF.pdf), Creative Commons, the World Forum on Free Media (http://www.fmml.net/spip.php?article135), and most recently the Internet Social Forum (http://www.internetsocialforum.net; http://bambuser.com/v/5380786), but IG per se, hasn¹t been prominently featured, at least not yet. > > As brief background: Information about the WSF: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Social_Forum > > Video on the history of the WSF: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUwelQswa20 > > Other video material: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCii7TQwLwBSHtsBzk0EedJg > > > > > > And here is the website of the remarkable francophone collective that > succeeded in convincing the WSF to consider bringing the Forum to Montreal, > which is the first time the Forum will be taking place in the so-called global > north: > http://www.fsm2016.org/en/declaration-from-2016-montreal-wsf-collective-to-the > -international-commitee-of-the-world-social-forum/. For information about the > Media at McGill research delegation that attended the Forum click here: > http://media.mcgill.ca/en/content/world-social-forum-2016-montreal-and-mediamc > gill . > With this as background, there is an opportunity to apply for a grant that could be used as a way to help fund participation in the 2016 WSF focusing, as I would suggest, on the challenges and possibilities for diverse civil society participation in IG that includes, but also goes beyond those NGOs/INGOs with long histories in this field. It should be noted that much of the organizing for the Montreal WSF was achieved by youth coalitions and in the years I¹ve been teaching at McGill, I see a burgeoning interest on the part of students to find pathways into this important but challenging area of policymaking. I think we need to respond to that interest with more deliberate strategies for pipelines into the IG field from a broad public interest perspective. For many seasoned IG policy advocates, the WSF may not ostensibly present a strategic policymaking/crafting space, but it does offer a space to work on building trust that can evolve into developing strategies and tactics for interventions based on a shared set of values/principles. For that reason, many on this list may not find this of interest if what is of most value/concern is engaging/intervening in the immediate challenges presented by the numerous IG policy forums discussed so often on this list. That said, I¹m open to collaborating on a grant proposal with like-minded individuals with an interest primarily in capacity building concerns, challenges, issues, and questions. Here¹s the grant opportunity: http://www.sshrc-crsh.gc.ca/funding-financement/programs-programmes/connecti on_grants-subventions_connexion-eng.aspx. Proposed events may be: * face-to-face or involve virtual interaction; * discipline-specific, or cross-disciplinary and/or cross-sectoral; and * open- or closed-invitation. From the website: Participants or audiences, in Canada and abroad, for both event and outreach activities, may include, among others, any of the following: * academic researchers; * non-academic researchers; * policy-makers; * professional practitioners; * representatives from organizations in the public, private or not-for-profit sectors; * representatives from community-based, local or regional non-academic organizations; and/or * students at all levels. Also from the website: Proposed outreach activities must be designed to engage the broader public in humanities and social sciences knowledge through one or a combination of the following: knowledge dissemination, transfer, brokering, translation, synthesis, exchange, networking or co-creation. Proposed activities may include, but are not limited to: * adaptation (including translation, e.g., into French, English or aboriginal languages) of texts or presentations for the purpose of broader knowledge mobilization to different audiences; * development of policy briefs, knowledge syntheses and scoping reviews; * development of articles for print or online publication in newspapers or weekly or monthly magazines‹whether specialized or general interest; * virtual networking; * media events (such as television/radio presentations); * public debates; * artistic exhibits, performances or festivals; * development/use of interactive technologies, audio-visual products or software; and/or * development/use of educational aids, instruments or equipment. Note, however, that Matching Funds are required in this grant opportunity, so perhaps that might be an opportunity for those better-resourced organizations/networks to contribute to a capacity building conversation/effort. We know that not all stakeholders in the BestBits community have equal access to human and financial resources and that some BestBits community members serve as re-granting organizations, so again, this might offer an opportunity for them to contribute to a shared agenda that a university partner (or two) can help convene. From the website above: > > Matching Funds > > > SSHRC will not fund the full cost of any connection event or outreach > activity. Additional support in the form of cash and/or in-kind contributions > (excluding registration fees), equivalent to a minimum of 50 per cent of the > amount requested from SSHRC, must come from sponsoring organizations. SSHRC > will consider only those funds stemming from sponsoring organizations in its > calculations of matching funds. > > > Applicants must demonstrate their ability to secure at least the minimum > matching funding, by including letters of support from sponsoring > organizations that clearly confirm the amounts and types of contributions the > organizations are providing for the proposed event or activity (see SSHRC¹s > Guidelines for Cash and In-Kind Contributions > nd-especes_en_nature-eng.aspx> for more details). > > > Applicants may draw on complementary funding from SSHRC research grants and/or > other research funding agencies, but must make clear in their budget proposal > that there is no duplication of financial support for the same budget > expenses. While SSHRC funds may be used in this complementary way, these funds > cannot be counted towards the 50 per cent requirement for matching funds. > Please feel free to contact me off-list if you have interest in considering this as a potential partner/collaborator/participant with an interest in working together to articulate a shared set of values/principles in line with the WSF¹s values/principles for capacity building related to civil society participation in IG processes. Best, Becky ---------------------- Becky Lentz, PhD Department of Art History/Communication Studies McGill University 853 Sherbrooke Street West, Arts Building, W-265 (West Wing) Montreal, QC, Canada H3A 0G5 For deliveries, use Arts Building, 265 (East Wing) Phone 514.398.4995 Fax 514.398.8557 Email: becky.lentz at mcgill.ca http://www.mcgill.ca/ahcs -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jefsey at jefsey.com Sat May 23 19:50:50 2015 From: jefsey at jefsey.com (JFC Morfin) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 01:50:50 +0200 Subject: [bestbits] [discuss] Why? In-Reply-To: <555CC888.1090600@gmail.com> References: <5555A417.5000103@cis-india.org> <5555C192.3060305@cis-india.org> <55589BD0.2030707@itforchange.net> <5E424DDC-D3B6-494F-8652-A99C25B8346A@difference.com.au> <555B3194.6020509@itforchange.net> <956C43B7-D951-4674-8926-B26D2438A3A6@difference.com.au> <555CC888.1090600@gmail.com> Message-ID: At 19:46 20/05/2015, willi uebelherr wrote: >As a general observation, your enthusiasm for wordplay, neologisms >and new inventive acronyms (MULTICANN, BUG, MYCANN-Plugs-in, is >sometimes witty, sometimes entertaining, sometimes clever, and >usually confusing and obuscatory and not helpful to allowing others >to understand your argument. David, I am travelling right now with reduced access to my mails. I am afraid I have no particular enthusiasm in neologisms. I only have the burden of a reality about which we are lied, lied again and always lied in order to make us believe: * there only the single possible bugged ICANN architectural restricted use of the Catenet (catenet! cf. IEN 48 by Vint Cerf) * along the only Vint Cerf/Bob Kahn TCP/IP technology 1974/1983 design, engraved in the NSA compatible status-quo stone in1985 for the ARPANET catenet (as opposed to any innovation - having to be permitted first by IAB and ICANN) * in opposition with the second objective of IEN 48, by Vint Cerf, i.e. to mimick and join the way we (Tymnet and CCITT) were using and concatenating the international catenet since 1977. We are most probably going to be confronted to a series of press stories about so-called "DNS bugs" (eg. the eNom registrar attack). This is in order to prepare the politically correct opinion to a DNS protection Act, i.e. establishing the US monopoly on the global namespace, through ICANN, in order to defeat hackers and protect the world from terrorists. The true reason why is that aside an anglo-saxon I*Core affiinity group there is gowing demand for an IETF or LIBRE (free netware community) WG to address the architectural BUG in the relations between "Ledgers", (i.e. DNS CLASS + Numbering Scheme + IANA + Catenet uses documentation/referent network information managers). This demand will either be addressed by - an IESG/IAB WG Charter, - by and IETF non-WG mailing list - or by a LIBRE/WG. Decision by the IETF affinity group. This WG will have to document and experiment (respecting ICANN ICP-3 restrictions which are good) how multistakeholderism applies to ICANN and its multiple information coopetitors in administering the network nebula. Otherwise it will be a naming governance by operational omnistakeholderism. It will work probably well but will forget TMs, the economy of the existing registries and the interests of the "ICANN so-called naming industry". This is why there is the MULTICANN need. This is what the NTIA has asked ICANN to look at, i.e. how ICANN, ccTLDs, vanityTLDs, registrars, resellers, etc. will survive in a mid-term LIBRE led namespace with DN costing one or two bucks a piece, or free when delivered by States, Banks, NGOs/ The accelerating alternative will probably be the "MYCANN-Plugs-in". There are several Free Software, national, coporate solution variations. The simplest is obviously to manage oneself his/her own db.files under Bind, or use the Host file. Some more sophisticated solutions are the Chinese plug-in and ISP solutions, or other open-roots alternatives. Then (this is my main technical interest) there are the virtual netboxes and VGN (i.e. many formes of network overlayings). All this might be leading to confusion. If you do not want to be confused, just read the RFCs. Do not read ICANN except ICP-3. Do not read IAB (look at who is the Chair) without checking: - You will soon discover that the technology is designed to support billions of local root files and around 35.000 global root files. - Consider how you will fix the problem, for yourself as a single lead user, of this single point of anykind of failure (technical, political, military, economilcal; etc. etc.) ICANN is, as a being unilaterally global BUG, - once the (now) reduced trust in the NTIA is gone. And tell us if you find any other solution than: - MYCANN-plugs-in (I could use the NAT methaphor to qualify them) and then - the advisable need to put some order through a MULTICANN RFC (I could continue the metaphor with the IPv6). - return the lead to a sovereign power through the US located PTI (even if ICANN is re located in Switzerland) whihc will be accountable to ... the FCC. Back in 1977. jfc